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እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 11:25
by Za-Ilmaknun
:mrgreen: ማሙዪ ያልሸወደው ሰው ቢኖር፡ እሱ እውነትን የካደ ብቻ መሆን አለበት፡፡ ሁሉም ኢትዮዽያዊ ብቻ ሳይሆን፡ አለም አቀፍ ድርጅቶች እንዲሁም መንግስታት ሳይቀሩ በ ማደናበር እና በማሳመን የ ኦህዴድ ፖለቲካ ለትንሽ ጊዜም ቢሆን ነሁልለው ነበር፡፡ ምናልባት ቴዊድሮስ ፀጋዪ እና ርእዮት አለሙ ፡ ከመጀመሪያው፡ ነቄ ብለው ነበር፡፡

ሲሳይ አጌና 😂😂 ከመባነን ይልቅ መሰወርን መረጠ፡፡ እዚህ ያለው መንጋ ከዘረኝነት በመነጨ ደመነፍሳዊ ጉዞ ስለሚንጠራወዝ አይመለከተውም፡፡

https://www.youtube.com/live/-t3peGwZ3P ... oDiX3msM9b

Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 12:47
by Za-Ilmaknun
How is it possible for the con artist to fool so many at this scale? Abebe Gelaw also says it would take to be from the outer world not to believe what Abiy Ahmed says when you are especially having a private conversation with the man. Andargachew Tsige says same... He just becomes the lie itself and make you buy his bulshyyt without any doubt. Is Berhanu Nega still buying the shyyyt or is he complicit in the blood bathe the country is finding itself in?



Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:13
by Abe Abraham
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 12:47
How is it possible for the con artist to fool so many at this scale? Abebe Gelaw also says it would take to be from the outer world not to believe what Abiy Ahmed says when you are especially having a private conversation with the man. Andargachew Tsige says same... He just becomes the lie itself and make you buy his bulshyyt without any doubt. Is Berhanu Nega still buying the shyyyt or is he complicit in the blood bathe the country is finding itself in?


Fool so many at this scale ? Lots of Amhara elites like Temesgen Tiruneh and his excellency Demeke Mekonnen still support Aby Ahmed .The Army is full of Amhara recruits. On Wolkait,Tsegede,Humera,Raya...Amhara elites either they do not care or want diridir. With the Amhara situation as it is does it make any sense to talk about Berhanu Nega, the educator ?


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Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:29
by Wedi
ከሁሉ የሚገርመው የእንጨት ሽበት እና እልም ያለ አድርባይ የሆነው ማፈርያው ሽማግሌው ግዛው ለገሰ የተባለ አህያ ነው!!

Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:58
by Za-Ilmaknun
Abe Abraham wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 13:13
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 12:47
How is it possible for the con artist to fool so many at this scale? Abebe Gelaw also says it would take to be from the outer world not to believe what Abiy Ahmed says when you are especially having a private conversation with the man. Andargachew Tsige says same... He just becomes the lie itself and make you buy his bulshyyt without any doubt. Is Berhanu Nega still buying the shyyyt or is he complicit in the blood bathe the country is finding itself in?


Fool so many at this scale ? Lots of Amhara elites like Temesgen Tiruneh and his excellency Demeke Mekonnen still support Aby Ahmed .The Army is full of Amhara recruits. On Wolkait,Tsegede,Humera,Raya...Amhara elites either they do not care or want diridir. With the Amhara situation as it is does it make any sense to talk about Berhanu Nega, the educator ?


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Lots of Amhara elites like Temesgen Tiruneh and his excellency Demeke Mekonnen still support Aby Ahmed- Yes they do! are you saying that they are supporting him because they know that Abiy is standing to protect the amhara people? or are they supporting him because of their own personal interest or they are simply not understanding what is behind what the man is doing? or are they afraid to negate their boss? :mrgreen:

The Army is full of Amhara recruits- Yes, so many amhara youth came to be part of ENDF thninking that the country was on the verge of collapse by the TPLF war. Standing for the coutry and willinglly being a tool to murder your own family are two different things. No amhara youth is now willing to be part of the OPDO murdering machine. Circumstances matter.

On Wolkait,Tsegede,Humera,Raya...Amhara elites either they do not care or want diridir.- I am not sure who those elites you are referring to are. One must know that all the termoil that we are in are one way or another sourced with WelQayit and the genocide that is occuring in Oromia. Your readings and mine are very very different on this. There could be a few here and there who do not care about anything other than their own belly but majority are firm on this. If you had a chance to listen to what Dr Mesay had to say about this issue, you would have second thought. Listen to the interview and come to litigate. Diridir isn't always bad..You should not be vying to score your differences by killing each other. Try to understand why we are not supporting identity politics. If the political ideology has to be what it is now, then it has to be implemented the way it is written.

does it make any sense to talk about Berhanu Nega, the educator?- Yes it does! I am not talking about Berhanu and who he is or what he used to do as educator. He has taken a firm stand to support the OPDO regime and, that is a political position to be supported or disagree with. His own long time comrades are discrediting him and his political position. Most accuse him of being a tool to single handidly destroy the "unity camp".


Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 14:04
by Za-Ilmaknun
Wedi wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 13:29
ከሁሉ የሚገርመው የእንጨት ሽበት እና እልም ያለ አድርባይ የሆነው ማፈርያው ሽማግሌው ግዛው ለገሰ የተባለ አህያ ነው!!
Honestly, I have hard time understanding this Gizaw guy. Does he still think there is a workable solution one might arrive at with the political position OPDO is taking? or Is he saying that the only problem the Abiy administarion having is the ethnic cleansing ? or Is he saying that the Amhara people should not be organizing per the order of the "constituation" and be rather the targets of genocide? or Does he think that the identity politics will fade away on its own without fighthing against it? :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 15:10
by Abe Abraham
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 13:58
Abe Abraham wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 13:13
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 12:47
How is it possible for the con artist to fool so many at this scale? Abebe Gelaw also says it would take to be from the outer world not to believe what Abiy Ahmed says when you are especially having a private conversation with the man. Andargachew Tsige says same... He just becomes the lie itself and make you buy his bulshyyt without any doubt. Is Berhanu Nega still buying the shyyyt or is he complicit in the blood bathe the country is finding itself in?


Fool so many at this scale ? Lots of Amhara elites like Temesgen Tiruneh and his excellency Demeke Mekonnen still support Aby Ahmed .The Army is full of Amhara recruits. On Wolkait,Tsegede,Humera,Raya...Amhara elites either they do not care or want diridir. With the Amhara situation as it is does it make any sense to talk about Berhanu Nega, the educator ?


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Lots of Amhara elites like Temesgen Tiruneh and his excellency Demeke Mekonnen still support Aby Ahmed- Yes they do! are you saying that they are supporting him because they know that Abiy is standing to protect the amhara people? or are they supporting him because of their own personal interest or they are simply not understanding what is behind what the man is doing? or are they afraid to negate their boss? :mrgreen:

The Army is full of Amhara recruits- Yes, so many amhara youth came to be part of ENDF thninking that the country was on the verge of collapse by the TPLF war. Standing for the coutry and willinglly being a tool to murder your own family are two different things. No amhara youth is now willing to be part of the OPDO murdering machine. Circumstances matter.

On Wolkait,Tsegede,Humera,Raya...Amhara elites either they do not care or want diridir.- I am not sure who those elites you are referring to are. One must know that all the termoil that we are in are one way or another sourced with WelQayit and the genocide that is occuring in Oromia. Your readings and mine are very very different on this. There could be a few here and there who do not care about anything other than their own belly but majority are firm on this. If you had a chance to listen to what Dr Mesay had to say about this issue, you would have second thought. Listen to the interview and come to litigate. Diridir isn't always bad..You should not be vying to score your differences by killing each other. Try to understand why we are not supporting identity politics. If the political ideology has to be what it is now, then it has to be implemented the way it is written.

does it make any sense to talk about Berhanu Nega, the educator?- Yes it does! I am not talking about Berhanu and who he is or what he used to do as educator. He has taken a firm stand to support the OPDO regime and, that is a political position to be supported or disagree with. His own long time comrades are discrediting him and his political position. Most accuse him of being a tool to single handidly destroy the "unity camp".

1_ No amhara youth is now willing to be part of the OPDO murdering machine. That is true but can one state unequivocally that the Army that is now active in the Amhara region consists mostly of Oromo Special Forces and recruits from other ethnic groups excluding the Amahra ?

2_There could be a few here and there who do not care about anything other than their own belly but majority are firm on this. Trust me the problem of indecisiveness and indirectly going with the story of the other side is more serious than one is led to believe. As an Amhara/Ethiopian M.D. stated recently the Amhara as Ethiopian in the first place and by tradition law abiding, polite and respecting authority ( the State, local ..) has difficulty representing himself and his interests. In a way they are like the Orthodox of ሓማሴን.

3_ Diridir isn't always bad..You should not be vying to score your differences by killing each other. Diridir is bad when it comes to ርስትና ሚስት:: As you stated it correctly " circumstances matter ".

4_ Most accuse him of being a tool to single handidly destroy the "unity camp". They attack him because he is a proud Guragé Habesha. Would you be satisfied if he were to resign and leave the country while he has still a lot of work to do ? With one man gone then what do you think the Amhara would do ? Look for another excuse ?


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Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 15:40
by Right
Gizaw is struggling to accept the fact. Obviously he is a diehard supporter of Abiye the leftist Ahmed Ali.

Regardless the world is watching this catastrophic avoidable crisis repeating itself for the 3rd time in just 5 years.

Bottom line: get rid of Abiye, Kill him, hang him or imprison him. But don’t let him get away with his life. He has blood on his hands (3 millions).

Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 16:51
by Wedi
ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ የአብይ አህመድ መጫዎች ሆኖ መቆየቱ እንጅ እንዳሳፈረው እና እንዳሸማቀቀ ተናዘዘ!!

"ላለፉት 5 አመታት የአብይ አህመድ ደጋፊና መጫወቻ ሆኘ መቆየቴ እጅግ አሳፍሮኝ ተሸማቅቄ ልሞት ነው!! እኔ ፖለቲካ አውቃለሁ፣ ፖለቲካን በደንብ እረዳለሁ እያሉሁ ለራሴ ትልቅ ግምት ስሰጥ የኖርኩ ሰው የበሻሻ አራዳ የአብይ አመድ መጫዎጫ ሆኘ መቆየቴ እጅግ አበሳጭቶኛል፡፡ በዚህ አጋጣሚ እኔ አብይ ያሻግረናል ስለው የነበረው አምናችሁ የነበራችሁን እና ያሳሳትኳችሁን በሙሉ ይቅርታ እጠይቃለሁ!!" ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

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I have BIG Respect for Prof Messay Kebede for his honesty and regrets for supporting Galla Abiy Ahmed
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Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 31 Aug 2023, 12:19
by Za-Ilmaknun
Now the international community is also cathcing up to the deception of the mad king.. :mrgreen: Very interseting chronicles


Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 01 Sep 2023, 16:53
by TGAA
Wedi wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 16:51
ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ የአብይ አህመድ መጫዎች ሆኖ መቆየቱ እንጅ እንዳሳፈረው እና እንዳሸማቀቀ ተናዘዘ!!

"ላለፉት 5 አመታት የአብይ አህመድ ደጋፊና መጫወቻ ሆኘ መቆየቴ እጅግ አሳፍሮኝ ተሸማቅቄ ልሞት ነው!! እኔ ፖለቲካ አውቃለሁ፣ ፖለቲካን በደንብ እረዳለሁ እያሉሁ ለራሴ ትልቅ ግምት ስሰጥ የኖርኩ ሰው የበሻሻ አራዳ የአብይ አመድ መጫዎጫ ሆኘ መቆየቴ እጅግ አበሳጭቶኛል፡፡ በዚህ አጋጣሚ እኔ አብይ ያሻግረናል ስለው የነበረው አምናችሁ የነበራችሁን እና ያሳሳትኳችሁን በሙሉ ይቅርታ እጠይቃለሁ!!" ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

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I have BIG Respect for Prof Messay Kebede for his honesty and regrets for supporting Galla Abiy Ahmed
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Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 01 Sep 2023, 17:10
by Union
Anbeta

They are not Amara. :lol:

And don't call them Amara elites. Amara never elected them :lol:

Abe Abraham wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 13:13
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 12:47
How is it possible for the con artist to fool so many at this scale? Abebe Gelaw also says it would take to be from the outer world not to believe what Abiy Ahmed says when you are especially having a private conversation with the man. Andargachew Tsige says same... He just becomes the lie itself and make you buy his bulshyyt without any doubt. Is Berhanu Nega still buying the shyyyt or is he complicit in the blood bathe the country is finding itself in?


Fool so many at this scale ? Lots of Amhara elites like Temesgen Tiruneh and his excellency Demeke Mekonnen still support Aby Ahmed .The Army is full of Amhara recruits. On Wolkait,Tsegede,Humera,Raya...Amhara elites either they do not care or want diridir. With the Amhara situation as it is does it make any sense to talk about Berhanu Nega, the educator ?


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Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 01 Sep 2023, 17:13
by Abe Abraham
Wedi wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 16:51
ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ የአብይ አህመድ መጫዎች ሆኖ መቆየቱ እንጅ እንዳሳፈረው እና እንዳሸማቀቀ ተናዘዘ!!

"ላለፉት 5 አመታት የአብይ አህመድ ደጋፊና መጫወቻ ሆኘ መቆየቴ እጅግ አሳፍሮኝ ተሸማቅቄ ልሞት ነው!! እኔ ፖለቲካ አውቃለሁ፣ ፖለቲካን በደንብ እረዳለሁ እያሉሁ ለራሴ ትልቅ ግምት ስሰጥ የኖርኩ ሰው የበሻሻ አራዳ የአብይ አመድ መጫዎጫ ሆኘ መቆየቴ እጅግ አበሳጭቶኛል፡፡ በዚህ አጋጣሚ እኔ አብይ ያሻግረናል ስለው የነበረው አምናችሁ የነበራችሁን እና ያሳሳትኳችሁን በሙሉ ይቅርታ እጠይቃለሁ!!" ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

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I have BIG Respect for Prof Messay Kebede for his honesty and regrets for supporting Galla Abiy Ahmed
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ጥሩ ከመመኘት የተነሳ ነው ። ምኞቱ ስላልተሳካ ፕሮፈሰር መሳይ ከበደ ራሳቸው የኣብይ መጫወቻ ኣደረጉ ተብሎ ሊነገር ኣይቻልም ።


Re: እነደዚህ በ አንድ አጭቤ በመታለሌ በራሴ ላይ በጣም አዝኛለሁ፡- ዶ/ር መሳይ ከበደ

Posted: 01 Sep 2023, 17:35
by sesame
Abiy was initially on the right track. His words and deeds were the right ones. He released all political prisoners. He signed a historic peace deal with Eritrea. He espoused a philosophy of inclusion that even included the TPLF thugs. There was no way anyone could have foreseen his descent into ignominy. How could anyone imagine that a man on the cusp of greatness would commit horrendous blunders and shoot himself in the arse?

The question is: What happened? Why did he lose the plot so miserably?

My opinion is that he became a victim of US manipulation. Most leaders in his position are recruited by US intelligence services. Remember that his wife and kids used to live in the USA. People like him are easily trapped by the CIA. Once compromised and in the bag, they are unable to free themselves as they can easily be blackmailed. Some indications of this: On Christmas day, he released Aboy Sibhat, just two days before a massive anti US demonstration in Addis, thus effectively killing the "nomore" movement. Is there any doubt that he was doing America's bidding?

I cannot see any scenario where he can continue without destroying Ethiopia. The sooner he realizes that he has messed up things irretrievably, the better Ethiopia has a chance for recovery from his disastrous policies. Otherwise, chaos will descend on that unfortunate land.