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eden, this is for you!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 30 Aug 2023, 10:22

eden,

you have never been able to come forward and defend any of your endless claims, you simply go underground for a while when you are asked to defend your claims.

One of your loud claim was "we are all Amharas", here this guy has an answer for you.

People who are leading the country today are those who lead by means of DDD leadership, from which your camp is light-years away.

The conflict in Amhara region is not Amhara vs. Oromo, or Amhara vs. anyone else. It is a conflict between forces of backwardness and progress respectively.

Swallow your bitter pill and go hiding, one more time. Or alternatively you can come back and declare yet "we are all backwards". The choice is yours.


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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by eden » 30 Aug 2023, 10:35

I have spoken up for Eritreans and Ethiopians including Amara, Oromo, both Tigrians etc etc when attacked by regimes and groups unlike most who pick and choose for whom to speak up. What’s wrong with that? Actually, this should be encouraged.

I can’t believe you question me while you never condemned the kerreyu massacre by OPDO.

Contrary to your belief, my camp is all people

You probably have good intentions but sometimes that not good enough. Supporting OPDO or abiy doesn’t help people or country.

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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 30 Aug 2023, 11:02

eden wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 10:35
I have spoken up for Eritreans and Ethiopians including Amara, Oromo, both Tigrians etc etc when attacked by regimes and groups unlike most who pick and choose for whom to speak up. What’s wrong with that? Actually, this should be encouraged.

I can’t believe you question me while you never condemned the kerreyu massacre by OPDO.

Contrary to your belief, my camp is all people

You probably have good intentions but sometimes that not good enough. Supporting OPDO or abiy doesn’t help people or country.
Still your narrative is that of generalization, trying to take a cover under the collectives. There is no good Amhara or bad Amhara, there is no good Oromo or bad Oromo, the same is true with the rest. Collectively we have both of those camps. Your urge to take under a cover of collections has been around all over.

You were the one who claimed Ethiopia, through its government, was waging a war of Genocide against the Tigreans. Then you shifted that towards the Amhara. You know also well that there were Tigreans who were fighting the forces of destruction from Tigray, the same is true today with the conflict in Amhara region.

That was when you came from no where and declared "we are all Amhara" (implying we are all against Oromo).

You can't bury the truth, no matter how much you may try.

You raise again and again about the "Kereyu massacre by OPDO", could you also corroborate your grand allegations?

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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by eden » 30 Aug 2023, 12:53

DTT,

I think you misunderstood. I’m not implying any people is responsible. You will never find any post from Eden to remotely imply the misfortune of one people is caused by other people.

I support forces like TDF, FANO and OLA when they do the right thing and call them out when I think they are wrong. The reality is that these forces have the backing of their respective people.


p.s. you asked for evidence again regarding Karrayyu. My information is from addisstandard, EHRC, Hangasa, Taye Dendea and Merera. I’m happy to see counter evidence. I don’t have any motive to blame anyone for nothing.
Weeks after the incident, members of the ruling party publicly admitted government forces’ involvement in the killings. In a live Facebook video, Hangasa Ibrahim, a member of the House of People’s Representatives accused the head of Oromia police commissions, commissioner Ararsa Merdasa of being behind the killings. Another government official attributing the killing to government forces is the state minister of peace, Taye Dendea. On his personal Facebook page with over half a million followers, the state minister implied that the Karrayyu Gadaa leaders were killed by elements within the regional government.
https://addisstandard.com/analysis-no-s ... its/?amp=1

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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 31 Aug 2023, 05:56

eden wrote:
30 Aug 2023, 12:53
DTT,

I think you misunderstood. I’m not implying any people is responsible. You will never find any post from Eden to remotely imply the misfortune of one people is caused by other people.

I support forces like TDF, FANO and OLA when they do the right thing and call them out when I think they are wrong. The reality is that these forces have the backing of their respective people.


p.s. you asked for evidence again regarding Karrayyu. My information is from addisstandard, EHRC, Hangasa, Taye Dendea and Merera. I’m happy to see counter evidence. I don’t have any motive to blame anyone for nothing.
Weeks after the incident, members of the ruling party publicly admitted government forces’ involvement in the killings. In a live Facebook video, Hangasa Ibrahim, a member of the House of People’s Representatives accused the head of Oromia police commissions, commissioner Ararsa Merdasa of being behind the killings. Another government official attributing the killing to government forces is the state minister of peace, Taye Dendea. On his personal Facebook page with over half a million followers, the state minister implied that the Karrayyu Gadaa leaders were killed by elements within the regional government.
https://addisstandard.com/analysis-no-s ... its/?amp=1
So, that is all the evidence that you can provide to corroborate your grand allegation of massacaring innocent lives and demanding from others also to condemn the "crime"?

And more importantly, that is also how you fight for justice? Which type of justice is that?

Allegations provided to support further allegations is the form of justice in your corner of the world.

Take a comfort in it!
It is your right to support those entities but you have to make sure to do so without any sort of infringement on the rights of others in doing so, that is all what I can say here!

Your Funno has no support in its own base of operation, that is why it opted to use means of coercision instead of convincing.

Those who have already coerced in their formative years will never going to learn the art of convincing if they may come out of those years later on.

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Post by eden » 24 Feb 2024, 15:36

DefendTheTruth wrote:
31 Aug 2023, 05:56

So, that is all the evidence that you can provide to corroborate your grand allegation of massacaring innocent lives and demanding from others also to condemn the "crime"?
More evidence:
After Gizachew received his orders, 14 of the men, Kadiro among them, were gunned down at point-blank range. The bodies were left to rot and were eaten by wild animals, according to the survivors and villagers who later recovered and buried the dead.

Boru and the second survivor said they managed to escape by scrambling into a ditch to dodge a hail of bullets.

The names of the dead Karayyuu elders are listed on the grave. Dates accord with the Ethiopian calendar.

SOURCE:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... committee/

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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 24 Feb 2024, 15:58

I think that you now feel to have finally find something to incriminate someone for the heinous crime, do you also fear God?

This is life, no one should feel to have been entitled to make a comment on the lives of others. And trying to point finger at someone without a solid evidence is tantamount to trying to hide the crime.

I have seen the article before you posted it here, no where I could find out an indication that somebody somewhere gave an order, except the media word games like someone who didn't want to be named, anonymous witness etc. In this case the alleged witness said he was there when the order was given, somebody could hear what has been said over the telephone, in clear text, that the mass killing should be carried out.

Unlike you I do have a fear for God!

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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by eden » 05 Dec 2024, 20:28

DefendTheTruth wrote:
24 Feb 2024, 15:58

I have seen the article before you posted it here, no where I could find out an indication that somebody somewhere gave an order
That’s why we need investigation and case brought to court. Is there an entity other than the government that should ensure this happen? Unless the government is avoiding self incrimination, why shouldn’t it uphold the rule of law.

The way you talking, you look like you want to see all this buried.

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Re: eden, this is for you!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 06 Dec 2024, 07:55

eden wrote:
05 Dec 2024, 20:28
DefendTheTruth wrote:
24 Feb 2024, 15:58

I have seen the article before you posted it here, no where I could find out an indication that somebody somewhere gave an order
That’s why we need investigation and case brought to court. Is there an entity other than the government that should ensure this happen? Unless the government is avoiding self incrimination, why shouldn’t it uphold the rule of law.

The way you talking, you look like you want to see all this buried.
Well, I said already in my opening post the following: "you have never been able to come forward and defend any of your endless claims, you simply go underground for a while when you are asked to defend your claims". Did you prove me wrong? Nope,

Government has also many other tasks other than "investigating" all sorts of allegations labelled against it or somebody else.

You are not interested in an investigation as such, rather in keeping the government preoccupied with your endless allegations and rampant propaganda machine, which will subdue very soon after running out of steam on itself.

Take a comfort there!

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Post by eden » 25 Mar 2025, 18:59

DTT,

Do you even have the courage to look at alternative sources that I provided? Or you just reply automatically, absolving the rulers of any wrong doings?

What’s it that I can present that’ll make you wake up now instead of later?

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