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[temari]

Except for the propaganda by mostly TPLF supporters. The backbone of Fano seems, at least until now, the people of the Amhara region. It seems though that many Eritreans do understand the grievances and threat Amharas feel due to the irresponsible acts of PP, I still couldn't find any evidence for the claim that Eritrea is actively supporting Fano or that Fano is actively seeking support from Eritrea.

Instead of externalizing internal political problems, the incompetent PM should step down and PP should facilitate an all-inclusive dialog if PP wants not to end up like Derg ESEPA.

[Cigar]

You absolutely correct. Eritrea believes in one united Ethiopia. That is the policy of Eritrea. Eritrea supported the Ethiopian govt in the recent war against a common enemy woyane was not in favor of the Amhara. Amharas unlike the run away terrorist woyane didn’t have a fight against their own federal govt. They got into the fight to claim their stolen lands fro the tegarus and in a process they might have been the beneficiaries from Eritrea destroying woyane to get what was stolen from them.
So these agames are making it appear as if Eritrea was directly helping the Amharas. Eritrea’s concern was to destroy woyane and make Ethiopia one.
Now that the Amharas got back stubbed but the incompetent Abiy there is friction between the federal govt and the Fanos aka Amhara.
Eritrea and Ethiopia are at peace. And the peace Eritrea signed is between the two countries and not with individual ethnic regions.
So Eritrea has no business interfering in this friction. If it does it should only be to bring the fanos and the federal Ethio govt to mediate or negotiate so that the coward woyane doesn't take advantage of this sad disagreement between the fano and federal.

[Right]

The only alternative is for Abiye Ahmed Ali to step down and facilitate the formation of a transitional government.
It is over for Abiye Ahmed Ali & PP. Period.

[Abere]

If Eritrea helped Fano, TPLF and Abiy Ahmed would not exist today. Even the Fano war started a few months back would have been completed early by defeating Abiy Ahmed. What is true in fact is Eritrea has not supported Fano to fight Abiy Ahmed and OLF. It is a false propaganda just to not to accept their loss to the armed Amhara Farmers. an OLF-ENDF lossing easily to farmers cannot stand conventional army of Eritrea, if there were suport to Fano at all.

Instead of externalizing internal political problems, the incompetent PM should step down and PP should facilitate an all-inclusive dialog if PP wants not to end up like Derg ESEPA.

[kibramlak]

TPlf has always been trying to drag Eritrea to internationalalized war. This time around, they also want to minimize the capacity of fano to stand by its own as it knocks down the Abiy brutal Force.

The main question is on how far Abiy can go to fulfil the desire of tplf as we notice two things:

- the war with Amhara has links to Wolqite to fulfil the dream of Tplf as per the US request
- the intent to go to war with Eritrea has links to the desire of tplf to overthrow Isayas as per the request and desire of USA

All in all, beside all other countless crimes Abiy has been committing, he is an absolute traitor of all the time throughout Ethiopian history. He must leave and face justice of any sort, whatever time it takes. He knew there won't be any place he is going to hide. As a result he has decided to commit a total genocide on Amhara before "his sun" sets

Except for the propaganda by mostly TPLF supporters. The backbone of Fano seems, at least until now, the people of the Amhara region. It seems though that many Eritreans do understand the grievances and threat Amharas feel due to the irresponsible acts of PP, I still couldn't find any evidence for the claim that Eritrea is actively supporting Fano or that Fano is actively seeking support from Eritrea.

Instead of externalizing internal political problems, the incompetent PM should step down and PP should facilitate an all-inclusive dialog if PP wants not to end up like Derg ESEPA.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

I do not think Eritrea does. It goes against Isaye's political belief. Here is a caveat though : Eritrea does not support "Fano" as tribal crusaders. But let us say if Fano is fighting to keep the Amhara lands to whom it belongs, I think help might be coming. As for now, I am not sure what is going on. But for Fano's to garner support from the majority of Ethiopians and Eritreans as well, it should work hard to present its fight as a fight for equality, freedom, and justice to all Ethiopians irrespective of where they were located in Ethiopia, and what religion they espouse.

[sarcasm]

But let us say if Fano is fighting to keep the Amhara lands to whom it belongs, I think help might be coming.

Isn't Amhara land under Amhara now?

Why does Eritrea care to the point of interfering with Ethiopian internal affairs, to keep Sidama land is kept under Sidama, Ormo land is kept under Oromo etc?

If Eritrea is going to support armed groups fighting to keep Ahmara land under Amhara, Gurage land under Gurage, Oromo land under Oromo etc, does it accept Ethiopian government to support armed groups fighting to keep Tigre land under Tigre, Tigrigna land under Tigrigna in line with the principle of reciprocity in international relations?

[kibramlak]

Sarcasm, you idi@t, you are comparing orange with poteto when you talk about the case of Amhara with those of oromos and sidamos. Your infected brain hardware is completely damaged with no chance to be repaired/healed

But let us say if Fano is fighting to keep the Amhara lands to whom it belongs, I think help might be coming.

Isn't Amhara land under Amhara now?

Why does Eritrea care to the point of interfering with Ethiopian internal affairs, to keep Sidama land is kept under Sidama, Ormo land is kept under Oromo etc?

If Eritrea is going to support armed groups fighting to keep Ahmara land under Amhara, Gurage land under Gurage, Oromo land under Oromo etc, does it accept Ethiopian government to support armed groups fighting to keep Tigre land under Tigre, Tigrigna land under Tigrigna in line with the principle of reciprocity in international relations?

[Cigar]

Sarcasm the dumb [deleted] where did you get the idea that Eritrea is helping the fano to conquer their belongings? They did that by themselves , be it by their strength or taking the advantage of Shaebia destroying woyane.
Eritrea is not interfering in Ethiopias internal affairs. The friction between fano and Ethio federal govt didn’t start because of Eritrea.
Eritrea is dealing with the great Ethiopia and not specific ethnic group. You agames are equally have the same rights like the Amharas, Oromos and the rest of them. But Eritrea is not going to close its eyes and get attacked by any Ethnic Ethio group. It will destroy any regional entity which dares it just like it did to you funfunat aliet tegarus.
Saying that, Eritrea respects all the Ethio ethnic groups except you funfunat agames and if any one of them have problem with tegarus, yes Eritrea will side with them not to fight Ethiopia but to destroy you agames. Because all the Ethio ethnic group having peace with their federal govt is Eritrea’s view.
So quit your bul’lshit hoodwinking people as if Eritrea is interfering in Ethiopia’s internal affairs or is siding with the Amhara.
Eritrea wants the two parties to solve their problem sitting down at a round table.

[DefendTheTruth]

First and foremost: it is not about Wolkayit and Tsegedie or any other "lost territory", the so called "Fano" abused the honor of the name for a barbaric and backward goal of dominating the rest in the country, instead of killing an enemy with the guns in its hand by pointing to the very people it claims to defend and others in the country.

Even the current intrim or caretaker leader of the Wolkayit-Tsegedie, Humera etc. Region, Col. Demeke Zewdu, joined the progressive forces of civlization to fight against the renegade and barbaric elements in the Amhara society instead of tainting his name by fighting along-side them against progress.

Why would he going to fight against Fano and Shabia to give the land he is a caretaker for back to those he thinks took from his people unjustifiably?

This is simply part of the impasse.

Second: Ethiopia is a land of rule of law and it aspires to upheld this and strengethen it. In the land of rule of law there is no room for violence and imposition of one's will on others by means of a gun. Ethiopia is a country where the will of the people is the supereme power of the land, or at least that is where it wants to go. On this regard it is completely different to the land of a despot.

Despots can live only where there is a violence and in the absence of violence they have no room more for their own very existence.

The difference should be very clear!

Fano has so far on all counts proved itself as a force of backwardness and a misfit to the aspiration of the people of Ethiopia to build a country where all are equal, truly. Fano's aspiration is to bring back the past system where some are more equal than the others.

In this regard there is no wonder that it may try to seek help from the same camp of despots.

So far the entity has not found a single sympathizer in the country itself to its goals and this says a lot.

[sarcasm]

Even the current intrim or caretaker leader of the Wolkayit-Tsegedie, Humera etc. Region, Col. Demeke Zewdu, joined the progressive forces of civlization to fight against the renegade and barbaric elements in the Amhara society instead of tainting his name by fighting along-side them against progress.

Why would he going to fight against Fano and Shabia to give the land he is a caretaker for back to those he thinks took from his people unjustifiably?

This is simply part of the impasse.

Second: Ethiopia is a land of rule of law and it aspires to upheld this and strengethen it. In the land of rule of law there is no room for violence and imposition of one's will on others by means of a gun. Ethiopia is a country where the will of the people is the supereme power of the land, or at least that is where it wants to go. On this regard it is completely different to the land of a despot.

Could you clarify what you are saying? Are you saying the colonel is there with the approval of the Federal Government?

How is Ethiopia a land of law when a region has unconstitutionally annexed part of a neighboring region while the invading region is ruled by the Fedral Government's party?

[Sam Ebalalehu]

Eden, who says "Ethiopia is a land of law?" You are hallucinating. For the last thirty plus years Ethiopia and the rule of law could not be written in the same sentence. " unconstitutionally annexed," you meant Humera and Welkayet by Amharas. What constitution says the Amharas. We were not part of it. And you say ...

[Geesi]

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

[Noble Amhara]

Well on the worst case scenario isaias fueled abiy to go to war with TPLF, OLF, FANO to destabilize Ethiopia. This is the worst case but

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

[DefendTheTruth]

Even the current intrim or caretaker leader of the Wolkayit-Tsegedie, Humera etc. Region, Col. Demeke Zewdu, joined the progressive forces of civlization to fight against the renegade and barbaric elements in the Amhara society instead of tainting his name by fighting along-side them against progress.

Why would he going to fight against Fano and Shabia to give the land he is a caretaker for back to those he thinks took from his people unjustifiably?

This is simply part of the impasse.

Second: Ethiopia is a land of rule of law and it aspires to upheld this and strengethen it. In the land of rule of law there is no room for violence and imposition of one's will on others by means of a gun. Ethiopia is a country where the will of the people is the supereme power of the land, or at least that is where it wants to go. On this regard it is completely different to the land of a despot.

Could you clarify what you are saying? Are you saying the colonel is there with the approval of the Federal Government?

How is Ethiopia a land of law when a region has unconstitutionally annexed part of a neighboring region while the invading region is ruled by the Fedral Government's party?

"Federal Government" has division of power (and with that division of competency and responsibilities). Which division (branch) are you referring to in your question?

When we speak about a land of rule of law, we don't (necessarily) mean there is no violation of the law. It only means there will be legal consequences of violating the law. If you don't believe, then please pay a visit to TPLF HQ in Mekele and ask them if they have experienced anything similar to this in their whole life.

The Federal Government is not a judge to rule about to whom the territory should belong, it has to facilitate that the territory be given to the rightful owners using an admissible mechanism. Disputes do rise between parties over an ownership of a resource or property and the dispute should be resolved using a legally permissible resolution mechanism. I think that shouldn't be so difficult to comprehend, is it?

[Geesi]

Well on the worst case scenario isaias fueled abiy to go to war with TPLF, OLF, FANO to destabilize Ethiopia. This is the worst case but

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

I feel like isaias has never been in better position than he is at now. His number one enemy is divided and weak. He made them run after him. each one of them is trying to please him and [deleted] his boots and for the all the people in Ethiopia ,Amharas are now doing whatever it takes to have his attention. Even thought everything is going well for asaias his ultimate goal is to have an Ethiopia where each region doesn’t take order from the central government and where what he says goes. He wants to bring all of them under his rule indirectly and unfortunately or fortunately the trending is going that way.

[Zmeselo]

Well on the worst case scenario isaias fueled abiy to go to war with TPLF, OLF, FANO to destabilize Ethiopia. This is the worst case but

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

I feel like isaias has never been in better position than he is at now. His number one enemy is divided and weak. He made them run after him. each one of them is trying to please him and [deleted] his boots and for the all the people in Ethiopia ,Amharas are now doing whatever it takes to have his attention. Even thought everything is going well for asaias his ultimate goal is to have an Ethiopia where each region doesn’t take order from the central government and where what he says goes. He wants to bring all of them under his rule indirectly and unfortunately or fortunately the trending is going that way.

If we assume for a second things are going as you say they're, I can guarantee that all of it has come to him on a silver-platter. He hasn't planned it, to be so.

The tplf's deep & uncalled for hate & animosity against Eritreans & their tplf manifesto that calls for secession of their killil from Ethiopia at the cost of both countries (hence the '98-00 war) & the greed they showed in controlling everything by placing only Tegaru in important positions from politics to the military & even religion; dividing the country on grounds of ethnicity while relying on foreign powers to achieve it all led to a revolt & their ousting from power.

He has & never had any conspiratorial mindset, towards your country. Infact, no Eritrean has ever had.

Focusing on what the White House does & opposing it, will set your people free. Their involvement is the nefarious one, not Eritrea's.

[Geesi]

Well on the worst case scenario isaias fueled abiy to go to war with TPLF, OLF, FANO to destabilize Ethiopia. This is the worst case but

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

I feel like isaias has never been in better position than he is at now. His number one enemy is divided and weak. He made them run after him. each one of them is trying to please him and [deleted] his boots and for the all the people in Ethiopia ,Amharas are now doing whatever it takes to have his attention. Even thought everything is going well for asaias his ultimate goal is to have an Ethiopia where each region doesn’t take order from the central government and where what he says goes. He wants to bring all of them under his rule indirectly and unfortunately or fortunately the trending is going that way.

If we assume for a second things are going as you say they're, I can guarantee that all of it has come to him on a silver-platter. He hasn't planned it, to be so.

The tplf's deep & uncalled for hate & animosity against Eritreans & their tplf manifesto that calls for secession of their killil from Ethiopia at the cost of both countries (hence the '98-00 war) & the greed they showed in controlling everything by placing only Tegaru in important positions from politics to the military & even religion; dividing the country on grounds of ethnicity while relying on foreign powers to achieve it all led to a revolt & their ousting from power.

He has & never had any conspiratorial mindset, towards your country. Infact, no Eritrean has ever had.

Focusing on what the White House does & opposing it, will set your people free. Their involvement is the nefarious one, not Eritrea's.

Stop being politically correct. You and I both know that the existence of strong Ethiopia government is danger to the existence of Eritrea. How was Eritreans treated when mingistu and haila were in charge ? How was Eritrea treated when they seceded from Ethiopia ? It is simple math. It is easier than 1+1 and you don’t need to have high IQ to know that eritrea is in danger when Ethiopia is strong. Eritrea can avoid being a target and being constantly attacked by simply making sure Ethiopia is weak.

[Weyane.is.dead]

Low iq weyanay vermin. That is your own assessment meant to spread suspicion and mistrust between both countries. We can read between the lines you know
A weak Ethiopia that is incapable of controlling its internal affairs is a play ground to forces that want to destabilise our region. Your weyane was a prime example. A strong united Ethiopia will pursue its own interests which includes being at peace with its neighbours.

Well on the worst case scenario isaias fueled abiy to go to war with TPLF, OLF, FANO to destabilize Ethiopia. This is the worst case but

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

I feel like isaias has never been in better position than he is at now. His number one enemy is divided and weak. He made them run after him. each one of them is trying to please him and [deleted] his boots and for the all the people in Ethiopia ,Amharas are now doing whatever it takes to have his attention. Even thought everything is going well for asaias his ultimate goal is to have an Ethiopia where each region doesn’t take order from the central government and where what he says goes. He wants to bring all of them under his rule indirectly and unfortunately or fortunately the trending is going that way.

If we assume for a second things are going as you say they're, I can guarantee that all of it has come to him on a silver-platter. He hasn't planned it, to be so.

The tplf's deep & uncalled for hate & animosity against Eritreans & their tplf manifesto that calls for secession of their killil from Ethiopia at the cost of both countries (hence the '98-00 war) & the greed they showed in controlling everything by placing only Tegaru in important positions from politics to the military & even religion; dividing the country on grounds of ethnicity while relying on foreign powers to achieve it all led to a revolt & their ousting from power.

He has & never had any conspiratorial mindset, towards your country. Infact, no Eritrean has ever had.

Focusing on what the White House does & opposing it, will set your people free. Their involvement is the nefarious one, not Eritrea's.

Stop being politically correct. You and I both know that the existence of strong Ethiopia government is danger to the existence of Eritrea. How was Eritreans treated when mingistu and haila were in charge ? How was Eritrea treated when they seceded from Ethiopia ? It is simple math. It is easier than 1+1 and you don’t need to have high IQ to know that eritrea is in danger when Ethiopia is strong. Eritrea can avoid being a target and being constantly attacked by simply making sure Ethiopia is weak.

[ZEMEN]

Well on the worst case scenario isaias fueled abiy to go to war with TPLF, OLF, FANO to destabilize Ethiopia. This is the worst case but

Whether fanos are getting help from Eritrea or not ,it crystal clear that Eritrea is at advantage when Ethiopia is in Chaos. A strong central government of Ethiopia is and will always be a threat to the sovereignty and national security of Eritrea. So it is understandable that divided and weak Ethiopia is strong and powerful Eritrea. I believe Eritrea will never work on the stabilizing of Ethiopia and I can back up my claims by looking the history of Ethiopia or horn in general for the last 5 decades. Eritrea has suffered the most under strong Ethiopian central government. And for them to work on weakening Ethiopia is predictable. That’s way TPLF Are spreading those rumors and unverified claims because it is easily believable that Eritrea will work on weakening the central government of Ethiopia.

I feel like isaias has never been in better position than he is at now. His number one enemy is divided and weak. He made them run after him. each one of them is trying to please him and [deleted] his boots and for the all the people in Ethiopia ,Amharas are now doing whatever it takes to have his attention. Even thought everything is going well for asaias his ultimate goal is to have an Ethiopia where each region doesn’t take order from the central government and where what he says goes. He wants to bring all of them under his rule indirectly and unfortunately or fortunately the trending is going that way.

If we assume for a second things are going as you say they're, I can guarantee that all of it has come to him on a silver-platter. He hasn't planned it, to be so.

The tplf's deep & uncalled for hate & animosity against Eritreans & their tplf manifesto that calls for secession of their killil from Ethiopia at the cost of both countries (hence the '98-00 war) & the greed they showed in controlling everything by placing only Tegaru in important positions from politics to the military & even religion; dividing the country on grounds of ethnicity while relying on foreign powers to achieve it all led to a revolt & their ousting from power.

He has & never had any conspiratorial mindset, towards your country. Infact, no Eritrean has ever had.

Focusing on what the White House does & opposing it, will set your people free. Their involvement is the nefarious one, not Eritrea's.

Stop being politically correct. You and I both know that the existence of strong Ethiopia government is danger to the existence of Eritrea. How was Eritreans treated when mingistu and haila were in charge ? How was Eritrea treated when they seceded from Ethiopia ? It is simple math. It is easier than 1+1 and you don’t need to have high IQ to know that eritrea is in danger when Ethiopia is strong. Eritrea can avoid being a target and being constantly attacked by simply making sure Ethiopia is weak.

Speaking of IQ and logic, if that is the case, Ethiopia never been venerable, weak and in a fringe of disfiguration when TPLF massacred Nothern command. Then Why did Eritrea save Ethiopia? You know that and everyone does, Abiy's army was in no position to protect Ethiopia. If it wasn't for Eritrea, we all be speaking [deleted].