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even if it is just on the air so far.

If you read the initial W for Wollega, then you missed it. It is to the north and stands for Wollo. We might be forgiven for assuming that a referendum over there down the road could be anticipated.

It is legal to ask for oromos on Wello but from my understanding Amaras also looking for the the land possessed by Oromos with cheating. One of the controversial lands include Wellega, Shewa,Harar and the likes. I think that Oromos are contemplating what is coming.

eprdf gave you a zone already and it is no longer apart of North, South Wollo Zone which is predominantly Amhara

and why in the video are they dressing in amahra clothes and doing eskista and using Amhara instrumental music with the northern hairstyle

did you guys hire Christians ladies from Tulama Ambo to dance in the video because 99% of them are muslim and 1% are Animist?

you guys are ashamed of this
https://image1.masterfile.com/getImage/ ... of-her.jpg

DDT

የማያዋጣ ፀሎት ይሰጣል ለመቅሰፍት ይባላል እንድህ አይነቱ። ግን ወሎ (ቤተ-አማራ) በደንብ ተዘዋውረህ ሂደህ አይተኸው ታውቃለህ? እውነት እልሃለሁ ከሚሴ አካባቢ ከተካለለው በግምት 20,000 በላይ ኦሮሞ የለም። ኦሮሞ የተገኘበት ሁሉ የኦሮሞ ነው ማለት ሞኝነት ነው። የማይመስል ነገር አታውራ። ከዚህ የተሻለ አሩሲ ክፍለ ሀገር ሪፈረንደም ቢደረግ ዲሞክራሲያዊ ነው - ከኦሮሞ ይልቅ ሌሎች ጎሳዎች ይኖራሉ። ለማንኛውም ይህ የጎሳ ክልል መቸም መቸም ቢሆን አይሰራም፤ ከዚህ ሁሉ ጎሳ ክልል ይፈረስ ይበልጣል።

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2023, 12:02

even if it is just on the air so far.

If you read the initial W for Wollega, then you missed it. It is to the north and stands for Wollo. We might be forgiven for assuming that a referendum over there down the road could be anticipated.

Abere wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2023, 15:10

DDT

የማያዋጣ ፀሎት ይሰጣል ለመቅሰፍት ይባላል እንድህ አይነቱ። ግን ወሎ (ቤተ-አማራ) በደንብ ተዘዋውረህ ሂደህ አይተኸው ታውቃለህ? እውነት እልሃለሁ ከሚሴ አካባቢ ከተካለለው በግምት 20,000 በላይ ኦሮሞ የለም። ኦሮሞ የተገኘበት ሁሉ የኦሮሞ ነው ማለት ሞኝነት ነው። የማይመስል ነገር አታውራ። ከዚህ የተሻለ አሩሲ ክፍለ ሀገር ሪፈረንደም ቢደረግ ዲሞክራሲያዊ ነው - ከኦሮሞ ይልቅ ሌሎች ጎሳዎች ይኖራሉ። ለማንኛውም ይህ የጎሳ ክልል መቸም መቸም ቢሆን አይሰራም፤ ከዚህ ሁሉ ጎሳ ክልል ይፈረስ ይበልጣል።

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2023, 12:02

even if it is just on the air so far.

If you read the initial W for Wollega, then you missed it. It is to the north and stands for Wollo. We might be forgiven for assuming that a referendum over there down the road could be anticipated.

በአንድ በኩል ወልቃይት ና ፀገዴ ከልተሰጠን ሞተን እንገኛለን፣ ለጎሳ ክልላቺን ማለት ነዉ።

በሌላ በኩል ደግሞ መለስ ብሎ የጎሳ ክልል ካልፈረሰ የትም አያደርስም ማለት እንዴት ነዉ የሚያዋጣዉ እንግዲህ?

ሎጅክ የምባል ነገር መቼስ ሞቶ የተቀበረዉ አማራ ክልል መሆን አለበት፣ አይደል?

As usual, the anti-Oromo bigots, such as the tigrayan brother (or sister, or even lgbtq member) miss rock, come out of the wood-works.

1. Fact is, since our people have inter-married a lot and assimilated into each other's culture, the borders between us (oromo-amara-tigrayans), are not agreed upon or clear. So you have the areas that are claimed by all sides, or by two sides-example is wollo, welkait, places like bati (which is claimed by oromo's, amara's and afars).
We know that the wallo oromo became more and more assimilated into amara culture, hence why they speak amharic for the most part, but that does not make them ''amara,'' it makes them assimilated oromo's, the same logic many of you use is regards to assimilated groups into the oromo nation, who now speak afaan oromo.
We also know that, in history, the wollo were a majority muslim group, contrary to their mostly Christian neighbors, and it was therefore treated as a threat by the three most known abyssinian/ethio emperors-yohannes, menelik and of course, tewodros, who spent a large part of his career waging a crusade there in wollo, committing various atrocities, and in the end-he lost and was surrounded by those same wollo oromo warriors.



By the way Miss Rock, the Oromo have a variety of looks, we don't have an uniform look; the same goes for amara's and other large nations, such as the somali. I don't have any of those features you mentioned, for example; So trying to insult us by pointing SOME of the features that SOME of us have- is just an emotional rant on your behalf, you sound like a bitter ex-girlfriend whose Oromo husband left her, and that made you angry forever-to the point that you vowed to hate anything Oromo and spread anti-Oromo stuff online. It's also downright silly and nonsensical that you try to compare a nigerian claiming european lands or heritage, to an oromo-ethiopian claiming a part of ethiopia-LOL a land we both inhabit and we've been neighbors for centuries, fighting each other, but also marrying each other and establishing alliances, an empire, etc.

Where is the proof for that claim, then? What makes them Oromo? Speaking Afaan Oromo? Or did you do a lineage check?

It's not ''crying,'' it's stating facts, without the need to resort to insults like you and the other bigoted, anti-Oromo, haters here.
What makes it the ''epi center'' of amara language and so on? Especially when we know, similar to the pure oromo, the pure amara are a minority (meaning, the majority of amara are MIXED and therefore, they've influenced others and have in turn, been influenced by others).
Sayyint, Wallo, may be considered as one of the purest Amara places; but not the rest of Wallo, and it's a minority in comparison to the Amara masses.
You ''cry'' when oromo's, on their own, without the need for the white man's firearms and advice, conquered big lands that make you cry to this very day; but it's not ''crying'' when others conquer. The hypocrisy is clear as day, my tigrayan sister miss rock.

Oromo's do not claim those things but some claim we were inhabitants of some of those lands, at one time or another, which is not farfetched when you compare the looks of the people on the Sphinx...

https://books.google.com/books?id=fg1zC ... pt&f=false


It's been researched, documented & discussed, my angry tigrayan sister who hates oromo's due to the fact that they chased your tplf back to mekelle, and now tigray has been sent back to the 1950's.
While the links to ancient egypt have been discussed, all you can do is cry online about ''gallas,'' and spew insults, because you lack the intellectual capacity and knowledge to make valid points based on research, knowledge, etc.
For such an inferior group, we certainly conquered a lot of land and made you cry about us online a LOT. It's ironically funny indeed.

Abere the bigoted angry Bere,

1. Regardless of what it 'was', in recent history, which is what we're discussing; the Oromo were present all over that area and gradually became fully integrated into Amhara language/culture, while retaining, for the most part, their Islam.

2. So Arabs have more of a presence in Wallo, than Oromo's? Okay cool, can you prove that then? What sources can you cite to substantiate those claims? Or should we just take your word for it?
OR are those the same tribes who crossed the red sea, in the before christ era; the habeshat tribes of southern arabia?
Are there Arabic names of places in Wallo? If so, what are they?
Warra Himano? Illu? Qallu? Borena? Etc?

Most of wollo heard of oromo only then? Okay cool, can you prove it? Where's the polls, the documents, the sources, etc?
Otherwise, it's fair to assume that you're making things up.

Sad,

--- Again, I do not have any hate toward Oromo. Since you have this hateful OLF agenda, instead of making the discussion educational, you turn it into complete Jal Dawud Jal Mero propaganda stunt.

***** If Wolo people were Oromo, why did the Wollega Oromo and OLF-PP massacre them calling them out "You Neftgena go back to your Wollo?"

---- If you have curiosity to know about Wello(Bete-Amhara) you should be physically there to visit all the Awurajas of Wollo and see it, experience it any ask random people what they know about Oromo. You will get the honest answer right in the field. As I said before, except in Kemissie and its vicinity, there is none. I doubt if you could find 0.09 % Oromo in Wollo. I want you ask the "Tens of thousands of displaced Wollo people in tents at Debre-Berhan city"

---- Name of a person or place is not a valid instrument to certify identity. As I said before, Oromo infiltrated into Wolo following the Adal man, Gragn Mohammed invasion. A man called 'Wolo" who probably was leader lived in one small area.
For instance, William Ruto. His name is William, but he is not White or belongs to UK.

---- Yes, Wolo people have strong roots with Arab. There are families that belong to the Mamedoch, this means Mohammadian. Most Arabic words mingles with Wolo-Amaregna. Example እሩህ - ህይወት ( ለምሳሌ እሩህህ አለ? ደህና ነህ ለማለት) ወይም ዕድሜ - ሃያት ( ሃያት ጀባ ብለው ይመርውቃሉ። There are Bets/Houses like the 12 houses of Israel, namely Ali-Bet, Abey-Bet. These are Arab brothers whose children spread or distributed over Wollo and mingled with the endogenous Amhara people.
If one checks the names of places, perhaps there are more names that are exactly the same as those places in Gondar, For instance, Kimir Dinga, Kemkem, Ebinat, etc. Or even the oldest name of Addis Ababa which is Berara is found in Wollo - Berara is name of place in South Wollo.

---- Again, I am not saying there is not an Oromo migration into Wollo, but it is insignificant demographically. And if in fact Wolo (Bete-Amhara) had connection with Oromo, it is something useful of historical significance being Ethiopian. The problem is ትንሽ ቆሎ ይዘህ ከአሻሮ ተጠጋ አይነት the genocidal OLF thugs wants to illegally claim and massacre. Wollo people are the most victims of OLF-PP. Go everywhere in Ethiopia, Wollegea, Addis Ababa, TPLF-PP war(3 phase) it is Wollo who have been victim - because they are AMHARA.

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2023, 20:46

Abere the bigoted angry Bere,

1. Regardless of what it 'was', in recent history, which is what we're discussing; the Oromo were present all over that area and gradually became fully integrated into Amhara language/culture, while retaining, for the most part, their Islam.

2. So Arabs have more of a presence in Wallo, than Oromo's? Okay cool, can you prove that then? What sources can you cite to substantiate those claims? Or should we just take your word for it?
OR are those the same tribes who crossed the red sea, in the before christ era; the habeshat tribes of southern arabia?
Are there Arabic names of places in Wallo? If so, what are they?
Warra Himano? Illu? Qallu? Borena? Etc?

Most of wollo heard of oromo only then? Okay cool, can you prove it? Where's the polls, the documents, the sources, etc?
Otherwise, it's fair to assume that you're making things up.

According to some Amharas, there are millions of Oromo people in Kenya and Tanzania but there are no Oromo people in Wollo, talk about madness.







Amhara are unknowingly digging their own graves.

Yes, there are about 20,000 Oromos in Kemissie. No body denies that fact. However, there are million Oromo in Somalia and Kenya where were left behind on their way to Ethiopia.

AbyssiniaLady wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 12:05

According to some Amharas, there are millions of Oromo people in Kenya and Tanzania but there are no Oromo people in Wollo, talk about madness.

Amhara are unknowingly digging their own graves.

You don't know anything about Wollo, keep digging your own grave!

Miss Rock, regardless of what I am, I know that I have at least partially mixed heritage (example: my mother's grandmother is 100% Silte), like many Ethiopians are. However, I am mostly Oromo and that is what I identify as.
You are the one who is ashamed of his Tigrayan identity, and claim to be an ''Amara nationalist.'' You disgrace and embarass the decent Amara people when you post such things as well, so with allies like you; who needs enemies?
Wollo is definitely mostly, a melting pot of cultures, very few people there would be ''pure.'' This is a fact.


Abere the bigoted dude who pretends to not hate Oromo's,
You show your hatred every time the Oromo is brought up, even saying we are less present in a part of Ethiopia than Arabs, which is beyond ironically hilarious and FALSE.



''North of the Tulama to the Basilo river, in the highlands between Gojam on the west and the Afar lowlands on the east.
The Wollo Oromo (not ''Galla'') are much mixed with the Abyssinians, and in some tribes the process of assimilation has gone so far that it is difficult to say whether they should now be classed ethnically as Oromo or Abysisnian.
In some, too, the Oromo language has been largely superseded by Amharic (example: Warra Himano).
North of the Wollo region proper, and extending up to and beyond Lake Asangi, is a tongue of land occupied by Oromo consisting mainly of the Raya and Yejju tribal groups.
The Raya are also known as Azabo; and the Yejju appear to be a mixed people due to intermarriage of Oromo with a people of Afar type.
The Raya have a reputation for ferocity, and are fairly recent converts to Islam; the Yejju and Wollo are Muslim as well.
The Wollo are said to consist of 7 tribes, and were referred to by the Amhara's as ''Sabbat Bet Wollo,'' the ''seven houses of Wollo.''
Borana-Warra Himano, Haymanot.
Cereca
Dugugur-Warra Qallu.
Gace.
Hartuma
(Antoma).
Herike. Gafra.
Kollo Abiet. Jirana.
Laga Ambo Maizella.
Laga Gura.
(Legaguga, Legagora).
Laga Ida (Lega Idda, Legaida). Raya, also called Azabo (Azebo, Assabo, Asebo).
Waollo (Wollo Woollo). Wejale (Ujale) ; {Culadere).
Wallo Babo.
Warra Ilu (Hailu, Yeju (Yajju, Edjou, Edjow, Ieggiu, Ayzo).''
[The Galla of Ethiopia; The Kingdoms of Kafa and Janjero: North ..., Part 2
By G. W. B. Huntingford]




Yejju and Mammadoch are OROMO elitist dynasties, which were mostly MUSLIM, but NOT ARAB; once again, you prove you are wrong.


''To the south of Yajji, another dynasty was founded by Wallo Oromo toward the end of the 19th century.
The Wallo Oromo were less assimilated (AT THAT TIME) into Amhara culture and had been strong in their Islamic faith since medieval times.
This group was founded by Muhammad Ali, and the dynasty, Mammadoch, was named after him.
This dynasty went into decline following the death of his grandson Abba Jirru Liban in 1825, and thereafter was divided into rival factions until eventually the whole region was annexed by the kingdom of Shawa in the 1870s.''

[Integration and Peace in East Africa: A History of the Oromo Nation
By T. Etefa, chapter on 'ethnic relations']


In regards to what occurred in Wallaga, I have no doubt, it's the henchmen of ABIY hired to FRAME and DISPARGE OLA/OLF, and such things were exposed in documents/books/articles/etc, I even posted about it before. The thing is, since many of you guys already have an internalized bias against ANYTHING OROMO, especially OROMO NATIONALISTS, you are susceptible and prone to accept any malicious lies, and propaganda about Oromos.
The only time you'd see OLA fight Amara's there, is if they to choose to side with the enemies of the Oromo and fight us, otherwise, no reason and no benefit can be derived from targeted from civilians; but there are benefits for the govt to derive from it-to defame the OLA/OLF, to have more enemies fight it, to cause divisions between oromo and amara there, etc.