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Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 02:01
by Horus

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 13:01
by kerenite
Horus wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 02:01
Greetings horus,

I am afraid yes. This ugly civil war between the 2 generals may last months.

The whites are solely scared of the influxes of refugees. They don't give a rats asz if a niggger kills another niggger.

The 2 warring factions have supporters behind the curtain.

Let's analyze who supports who:

1. General Al burhan, the defacto head of sudan is supported by Egypt, israel and uncle sam. Israel supports him because he was the one who met the israeli prime minister in Kampala, uganda and recognized israel as a sovereign country.

2. General Hamidti, the capo of the janjeweeds, who hails from darfor was a camel trader. The ousted dictator al bashir brought him to the scene and elevated his rank from a Private to a general. He is a six grader almost illiterate.

He is a super rich warlord, the sudanese gold mines are under his control. He exports the gold to dubai with the help of the russian wagner troops.

He sent mercenaries to yemen to help the saudis and the emirates fighting the houthi yemenis. He earned millions of dollars, besides he sent mercenaries to Libya to help the warlord HAFTAR who was stationed at Bengazi. He obtained millions of dollars for his service.

His supporters behind the curtain are saudi arabia, the emirates and russia.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 13:22
by Horus
kerenite,
The alignment of the various forces is clear. Even Abiy Ahmed seems to be pushed by USA to side with Al-Bhuran (since there is some similarity between Amara Militia vs. Abiy's so called national army.

But my question is will Sudan split up into different regional states like Somalia? Here are the 18 killils of Sudan. Which ones will demand forming their own state or country? The Frenchman in the video says for example north, south, west and east Darfur will split.

States of the Republic of Sudan
1. Khartoum (ولاية خرطوم Wilāyat Kharṭūm)
2. North Kordofan (ولاية شمال كردفان Wilāyat Shamāl Kurdufān)
3. Northern (ولاية الشمالية Wilāyat ash-Shamāliyyah)
4. Kassala (ولاية كسّلا Wilāyat Kassalā)
5. Blue Nile (ولاية النيل الأزرق Wilāyat an-Nīl al-Azraq)
6. North Darfur (ولاية شمال دارفور Wilāyat Shamāl Dārfūr)
7. South Darfur (ولاية جنوب دارفور Wilāyat Janūb Dārfūr)
8. South Kordofan (ولاية جنوب كردفان Wilāyat Janūb Kurdufān)
9. Al Jazirah (ولاية الجزيرة Wilāyat al-Jazīrah)
10. White Nile (ولاية النيل الأبيض Wilāyat an-Nīl al-Abyaḍ)
11. River Nile (ولاية نهر النيل Wilāyat Nahr an-Nīl)
12. Red Sea (ولاية البحر الأحمر Wilāyat al-Baḥr al-Aḥmar)
13. Al Qadarif (ولاية القضارف Wilāyat al-Qaḍārif)
14. Sennar (ولاية سنّار Wilāyat Sinnār)
15. West Darfur (ولاية غرب دارفور Wilāyat Gharb Dārfūr)
16. Central Darfur (ولاية وسط دارفور Wilāyat Wasṭ Dārfūr)
17. East Darfur (ولاية شرق دارفور Wilāyat Sharq Dārfūr)
18. West Kordofan (ولاية غرب كردفان Wilāyat Gharb Kurdufān) (disestablished in 2005; reestablished in 2013)

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 15:52
by sesame
Agamite,

Why did you fail to include a link to the Wikipedia page from which you copied and pasted the information? Is it because you wanted to appear knowledgeable about the Sudan using plagiarized material. Typical Agame trait.

Horus wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 13:22
kerenite,
States of the Republic of Sudan
1. Khartoum (ولاية خرطوم Wilāyat Kharṭūm)
2. North Kordofan (ولاية شمال كردفان Wilāyat Shamāl Kurdufān)
3. Northern (ولاية الشمالية Wilāyat ash-Shamāliyyah)
4. Kassala (ولاية كسّلا Wilāyat Kassalā)
5. Blue Nile (ولاية النيل الأزرق Wilāyat an-Nīl al-Azraq)
6. North Darfur (ولاية شمال دارفور Wilāyat Shamāl Dārfūr)
7. South Darfur (ولاية جنوب دارفور Wilāyat Janūb Dārfūr)
8. South Kordofan (ولاية جنوب كردفان Wilāyat Janūb Kurdufān)
9. Al Jazirah (ولاية الجزيرة Wilāyat al-Jazīrah)
10. White Nile (ولاية النيل الأبيض Wilāyat an-Nīl al-Abyaḍ)
11. River Nile (ولاية نهر النيل Wilāyat Nahr an-Nīl)
12. Red Sea (ولاية البحر الأحمر Wilāyat al-Baḥr al-Aḥmar)
13. Al Qadarif (ولاية القضارف Wilāyat al-Qaḍārif)
14. Sennar (ولاية سنّار Wilāyat Sinnār)
15. West Darfur (ولاية غرب دارفور Wilāyat Gharb Dārfūr)
16. Central Darfur (ولاية وسط دارفور Wilāyat Wasṭ Dārfūr)
17. East Darfur (ولاية شرق دارفور Wilāyat Sharq Dārfūr)
18. West Kordofan (ولاية غرب كردفان Wilāyat Gharb Kurdufān) (disestablished in 2005; reestablished in 2013)

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 16:06
by Right
Kerenti,
If Egypt +Israel +USA supports Al-Bourah it means his government is against Ethiopia.
The public knows Egypt and Israel are fuelling the conflict. That basically means in the long run Al-B will not survive.
Why would the Ethiopian government support Al-B who is against Ethiopia?
I know Abiye has one and only one interest and that is keeping power at any cost.
If he is doing it at the cost of Ethiopian interest to appease the US, then he is a fool.
The best he could have done was stay neutral.
The US doesn’t like Abiye. The US is siding with their reliable hand the TPLF. They hate incompetent people doing their dirty work.

Abiye doesn’t know politics and the US deliberately will make his hand dirty in the Sudanese crisis.

Sudan is done. I always thought the Sudanese people are shrewd and smart. How wrong I was.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 16:07
by Abere
There is no doubt about that! It officially joined Somalia. We have been hearing of an on and off conflict to dismemberer Sudan. Any country with a history of being a colony has long-lasting incurable disease. Colonization is lie an ever lasting generational curse. But we all know that one way or another the dusting off will reach to Ethiopia crossing the horizon, we got dozen mercenary Trojans.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 16:44
by AbyssiniaLady
Stop dragging Somalia into your nonsense.

Somalia is not Sudan, It is a country of predominantly one ethnic group, one language, one culture and one religion and nobody is going nowhere, Sudan like Ethiopia, disintegrated into two countries long time ago and needless to say, both Ethiopia and Sudan will further disintegrates into many different countries.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 16:52
by Abere
If Somalia were one ethnic, one language, one religion why has it been a textbook example of #1 failed state of the world? Somalia has been constantly rocked by shootings and still is on life support by peace keeping forces from other African countries. Why is punt land not calling herself Somalia? Why has the Bantu ethnic group feel discriminated in Somalia?

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:44
Stop dragging Somalia into your nonsense.

Somalia is not Sudan, It is a country of predominantly one ethnic group, one language, one culture and one religion and nobody is going nowhere, Sudan like Ethiopia, disintegrated into two countries long time ago and needless to say, both Ethiopia and Sudan will further disintegrates into many different countries.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 17:05
by Za-Ilmaknun
It was pretty clear that Sudan has been going down the slop for the longest. Their Gov't is mostly about serving outsiders than defending the interests of its people. Momo LeBBO supporting Al Burehan (if he did or is doing) further solidifies the suspicion that he is dealing with Sudan at the expense of the Amhara people and Ethiopia at large. He will deal with the devil to stay on his wobbling throne.

Somalia being one ethnic and one religion didn't save it from disintegration. Nigeria has more than 250 ethnic groups and Ghana has more than 90 ethnic groups but, doing much better than any country in the horn. Diversity isn't a problem in itself. It is the way the Govts are handling the issues of diversity that is creating problems. The Ethiopian case an intentionally manufactured animosity among ethnic groups to further political agenda. It did backfire big time and consumed more than a million souls and counting.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 21:17
by Somaliman
Somalia is no longer a failed state.

At least we're not leading the world in toilet scarcity with 93% of our population lacking basic sanitation, neither is Somalia called the world's fastest emptying nation, losing over a half of a million of its population every decade.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... ne-says-un

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 21:35
by sun

What now? :roll: :roll:
If the lady is saying that her country is a textbook example of a dream state owned by neftegna nefxegnumma extremist pigs like you, means you should have been jumping sky high and kicking your greasy ar$$$ with your hind legs over and over again and again with no end insight.
:P :P

Abere wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:52
If Somalia were one ethnic, one language, one religion why has it been a textbook example of #1 failed state of the world? Somalia has been constantly rocked by shootings and still is on life support by peace keeping forces from other African countries. Why is punt land not calling herself Somalia? Why has the Bantu ethnic group feel discriminated in Somalia?

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:44
Stop dragging Somalia into your nonsense.

Somalia is not Sudan, It is a country of predominantly one ethnic group, one language, one culture and one religion and nobody is going nowhere, Sudan like Ethiopia, disintegrated into two countries long time ago and needless to say, both Ethiopia and Sudan will further disintegrates into many different countries.

Re: Is Sudan The Next Somalia?

Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 22:00
by sun
Right wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:06
Kerenti,
If Egypt +Israel +USA supports Al-Bourah it means his government is against Ethiopia.
The public knows Egypt and Israel are fuelling the conflict. That basically means in the long run Al-B will not survive.
Why would the Ethiopian government support Al-B who is against Ethiopia?
I know Abiye has one and only one interest and that is keeping power at any cost.
If he is doing it at the cost of Ethiopian interest to appease the US, then he is a fool.
The best he could have done was stay neutral.
The US doesn’t like Abiye. The US is siding with their reliable hand the TPLF. They hate incompetent people doing their dirty work.

Abiye doesn’t know politics and the US deliberately will make his hand dirty in the Sudanese crisis.

Sudan is done. I always thought the Sudanese people are shrewd and smart. How wrong I was.

Narcissist b!tch, keep congratulating your low IQ dimwitted miserable self. If you have something valuable just show it don't only talk about it. To come to the level of a leader with PhD and Noble Peace Gold Medal Award earner among many others you need to wait for some 3000 years of your own counting method.

It is not something you can earn through envy, jealousy, demeaning, narcissism and non stop bogus individual and group negative f@rting sessions.