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Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decades !

Post by Axumezana » 15 Mar 2023, 19:16

For those Tigrayans who want Tigray to be independent ( as per article 39 of the constitution ) the following points have to be considered.

- Land locked
- Hostile , jealous & genocidal neighbours ( Amhara & Eritrea)
- Tigray economy & infrastructure already destroyed and it's human capital severely damaged and depleted due to the war.
- Tigray main wealth is under the earth( minerals, precious metals , precious stones etc) and requires huge investment and knowhow
- May need confederation with Eriteria or Ethiopia for some time to be viable
- The superpowers are more than ever interested to build a geo-economic-political heavy weight that stabilizes the whole Horn of Africa built around the current Ethiopia( which they control and use against China-Iran/ Arab alliance) and may resist or sabotage Tigray's independence ( they want Tigrayans to share power as part of Ethiopia and help to stabilize & build Ethiopia and the whole Horn of Africa)


The way forward: Bring Ethiopia's center of gravity to Tigray over the next two to three decades by making Tigray :

Part of Ethiopia but different governance system which transformes Tigray to become:


- Model for free economy
- Corruption intolerant civil service and system
- Free media and judicial system
- Model for vibrant democracy
- Liberalized land policy that allows sale and purchase of land
- Elimination of subsitence farming and replacing it with commercialized irrigated and technology based farming( Israel model)
- Rapid urbanization and creation of multiple mega cities that become industrial investment magnets and become economic, technology and manufacturing hubs
- Center of excellence and innovation for the Horn of Africa
- Economic heavy weight in the Horn of Africa
- Political, cultural and religious center in the Horn of Africa
- Benchmark Israel and Dubai technology, trade, commerce, air transport, success factors and implement them in a customized manner to make Tigray a center of excellence and hub for the whole Horn of Africa

- Peaceful coexistence with Amhara & Eriteria

Once Tigray is the heavy weight in the Horn of Africa as part of Ethiopia but different system of governance , it could also consider it's independence, if necessary .

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Abere » 15 Mar 2023, 20:05

Axumezana,

You just showed how much foolish you are. Even a child knows what this formula mean let alone the 97% non-Tigre Ethiopians. That was the oldest calculus TPLF used in its 27 year -ትግራይ እስኪለማ ሌላው ኢትዮጵያ ይድማ :mrgreen: Why is it so impossible for Tigre to live in peace just like all other Ethiopians, in the first place? You are so brutal criminal you want take all Tigres down with you, because you knew that TPLF is dead in water. Now you are forced to accept after ba.nged by Amhara and Eritrea :mrgreen:



Axumezana wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 19:16
For those Tigrayans who want Tigray to be independent ( as per article 39 of the constitution ) the following points have to be considered.

- Land locked
- Hostile , jealous & genocidal neighbours ( Amhara & Eritrea)
- Tigray economy & infrastructure already destroyed and it's human capital severely damaged and depleted due to the war.
- Tigray main wealth is under the earth( minerals, precious metals , precious stones etc) and requires huge investment and knowhow
- May need confederation with Eriteria or Ethiopia for some time to be viable
- The superpowers are more than ever interested to build a geo-economic-political heavy weight that stabilizes the whole Horn of Africa built around the current Ethiopia( which they control and use against China-Iran/ Arab alliance) and may resist or sabotage Tigray's independence ( they want Tigrayans to share power as part of Ethiopia and help to stabilize & build Ethiopia and the whole Horn of Africa)


The way forward: Bring Ethiopia's center of gravity to Tigray over the next two to three decades by making Tigray :

Part of Ethiopia but different governance system which transformes Tigray to become:


- Model for free economy
- Corruption intolerant civil service and system
- Free media and judicial system
- Model for vibrant democracy
- Liberalized land policy that allows sale and purchase of land
- Elimination of subsitence farming and replacing it with commercialized irrigated and technology based farming( Israel model)
- Rapid urbanization and creation of multiple mega cities that become industrial investment magnets and become economic and technology hubs
- Center of excellence and innovation for the Horn of Africa
- Economic heavy weight in the Horn of Africa
- Political, cultural and religious center in the Horn of Africa
- Benchmark Israel and Dubai technology, trade, commerce, air transport, success factors and implement them in a customized manner to make Tigray a center of excellence and hub for the whole Horn of Africa

- Peaceful coexistence with Amhara & Eriteria

Once Tigray is the heavy weight in the Horn of Africa as part of Ethiopia but different system of governance , it could also consider it's independence if necessary .

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Axumezana » 15 Mar 2023, 20:20

Ascari-Banda Abere,
Similar advise was given to the Amhara state https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... a#p1367390
These recommendations could be used by any state in Ethiopia including the ascari land. As you are filled with hate against Tigray you are jealous and afraid of what Tigray could be after two to three decades. Tigrayans like the Jews are highly mobilized, united in vision & purpose and [deleted] which give them unique competitive advantage to build a unique and sucessful model while part of Ethiopia. One united Ethiopia but unique governance model for each state applies to all states.
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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Dark Energy » 15 Mar 2023, 20:40

Agame Zana,

Congratulations. You are confronting reality somewhat. But, the center of gravity in Ethiopia will be around Addis Ababa. It will not move to Tigray. The Ogadenis deserve far more than Tigray if you consider the wealth under the ground. Making peace with Amhara is very critical. Making peace with Isayas won't be easy. But, Isayas will not stay in power for ever. Things will be amended for the better. Confederation with Eritrea or Ethiopia will not happen. Tigray will be part of Ethiopia under the present system. If you ask me permanent solution for Tigrayans would be for Tigray to be integrated into the amhara region. You guys have been intermarrying with each other peacefully for centuries. By the true definition of Ethnic identity Tigrayans are not separate from Amhara. The amharas and Oromos will dominate Ethiopian politics. Peace between the two giants is very critical for Ethiopian survival. Eritrea is gone for ever. Almost all of Eritreans would like to stay out of Ethiopian politics. This regional integration shyyt is a pretext of individuals to widen and sweeten their power around the horn. :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Axumezana » 15 Mar 2023, 20:58

Ascari -Agame Dark,

Do not forget # Abiy Bring Back Our Access to Red Sea!

Peaceful coexistence is required but integration with Amhara is not necessary and not acceptable. Tigray as the spirit and soul of Ethiopia has enough potential to be the engine of Ethiopia. The fact that Tigray effectively resisted & kept it's destiny on a coordinated genocidal and illegal war for two years facing disproportional army( Eritrea, Amhara, The rest of Ethiopia) and modern weapon is an indicator that it could do wonder on its development.

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Dark Energy » 15 Mar 2023, 21:06

Agame Zana,

You have reverted back to your ugly deceitful agame mentality again. Once agame is always agame. Get this, Dream on access to the sea. Eritrea's territorial integrity is enshrined in the United Nation's charters. Don't make us come after you again :x :lol: . Isayas wanted to finish your qomal behind for good. Perhaps he knows something that I don't. Shyyyt head. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Axumezana » 15 Mar 2023, 21:11

Ascari-Agame Dark,


With the current China-Iran axis of evil against USA and Israel,. It is guaranteed for Ethiopia to secure Acess to the Red Sea , if Abiy plays his card wisely!

It looks you did not read this:

https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 5#p1372215

Try to come back this time alone ( ያለ፥ አዛይ፥) and that will make for # Abiy Bring Back Our Acess To Red Sea !to be implemented immediately after drowning your half starved and aged army to the Red Sea. Do you know how many of them are languishing in Mekelle as prisoners of war? Thousands !

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Cigar » 15 Mar 2023, 21:46

Look at this deceitful resah, Wedi shermu’tta agame is saying.
He wants to confederate with Eritrea throwing his own country Ethiopia under the bus.
As if he is not part of Ethiopia already he is giving his middle finger to the rest of the Ethiopian ethnic group and wants Ethiopia tigray confederation.
Now the bizarre thing he is openly saying that tigray is decimated to no repair, but according to him if those wishes were to be met (milking Ethiopia and Eritrea) for two decades tigray will be viable and then either start another war or declare his independence.
Why did he say for two decades he wants to eat the Eritrean and Ethiopian cakes?
Why is he forgetting or denying that tigray is a killil of Ethiopia like the rest of them and it will be treated the same as the rest of the killils? What the fu’ck is tigray to offer to Ethiopia or Eritrea that he is insulting the rest of the Ethio ethnic group?
What the Ethiopians do or say about it is their business, but to step one leg in Eritrea will be fatal to any agame let alone confederation.
All his bull crap that he will march to adi halo, Isayas’s days are numbered, see you in Asmara changed to begging his master Eritreans for confederation.
Rather than embarrassing (the agames don’t know that word) why no hope and work for peace to Eritrea, Ethiopia (his country) and the region?
After all tigray is the least important killil of Ethiopia and its fate is sealed by his master ‘SHAWIA’ & Ethiopia specifically the Amharas.
Any way, slowly he seems to see the disaster he is in……by the fact he wants to confederate with Eritrea…..the Eritrea he been screaming his lungs out committed ‘genocide’ to his funfunat aliet tegarus.
Wow nay agames negher.

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Cigar » 15 Mar 2023, 21:46

Look at this deceitful resah, Wedi shermu’tta agame is saying.
He wants to confederate with Eritrea throwing his own country Ethiopia under the bus.
As if he is not part of Ethiopia already he is giving his middle finger to the rest of the Ethiopian ethnic group and wants Ethiopia tigray confederation.
Now the bizarre thing he is openly saying that tigray is decimated to no repair, but according to him if those wishes were to be met (milking Ethiopia and Eritrea) for two decades tigray will be viable and then either start another war or declare his independence. He is telling his agame people who want to be independent to not mention or push for it for tigray needs Ethiopia’s or Eritrea’s crutches to stand on its own for two decades plus. If this is not clarifying his future agenda, I don’t know what it is.
Why did he say for two decades he wants to eat the Eritrean and Ethiopian cakes?
Why is he forgetting or denying that tigray is a killil of Ethiopia like the rest of them and it will be treated the same as the rest of the killils? What the fu’ck is tigray to offer to Ethiopia or Eritrea that he is insulting the rest of the Ethio ethnic group?
What the Ethiopians do or say about it is their business, but to step one leg in Eritrea will be fatal to any agame let alone confederation.
All his bull crap that he will march to adi halo, Isayas’s days are numbered, see you in Asmara changed to begging his master Eritreans for confederation.
Rather than embarrassing (the agames don’t know that word) why no hope and work for peace to Eritrea, Ethiopia (his country) and the region?
After all tigray is the least important killil of Ethiopia and its fate is sealed by his master ‘SHAWIA’ & Ethiopia specifically the Amharas.
Any way, slowly he seems to see the disaster he is in……by the fact he wants to confederate with Eritrea…..the Eritrea he been screaming his lungs out committed ‘genocide’ to his funfunat aliet tegarus.
Wow nay agames negher.

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Digital Weyane » 15 Mar 2023, 22:08

ልዕለ ሃያሏ ትግራይ አሁን ላይ ስለምትገኝበት አጠቃላይ እውነታ ሳስብ ነፍሴ አብዝታ በጭንቀት ትታመሳለች፡፡ :roll: :roll:

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Re: Tigray is strong as part of Ethiopia but will be marginalized if it is independent at least for the next two decade

Post by Axumezana » 15 Mar 2023, 23:17

Ascari-Agame Cigar,

As a sawa graduate it looks you did not understand what I wrote. ኢሳያስ እውን፥ ከማኻ፥ ደንበር፥ በር፥ ዝብል፥ ስኣን፥ ፍልጠት ፥ እዩ፥!

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