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Understanding our history (ቀይሕ ዕንባባ member testifies Isayas executed 42 highly educated EPLF leaders known as መንካዕ)

Post by eden » 14 Mar 2023, 10:31

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Re: Understanding our history (why we failed)

Post by sesame » 14 Mar 2023, 10:45

They failed because they were nothing but servants of Agames, doh!

ናይ ከደምቲ ከደምቲ
ከይተበገሱ ወደቕቲ
ሕማም ዓጋመ ለጊብዎም
እናረኣዩ ጸዲፎም።




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Post by kerenite » 14 Mar 2023, 15:05

eden wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 10:31
Edu,

Your kebesa cousins were on each other's throat in the 70s.

One group was singing:

Akele guzay tederira seraye tederira. Hamassien tsoma Hadira.

So no wonder the hamassien folks labeled the term menkaE to the akeleguzians. It was a region vs. region conflict.

If I am not mistaken the mekaE did have few hammassenis among them but not even a single lowlander.

Petros solomon and sibhat ephrem were proponents of the group menkaE at the beginning but they betrayed them later.

Finally, once the higdef rule becomes history, the true history of our country will be told as it transpired.

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Post by eden » 16 Mar 2023, 08:37

keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.

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Post by kerenite » 16 Mar 2023, 13:03

eden wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 08:37
keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.
While those who can tell the true story are languishing in the underground of Ira-iro notorious prison. Some of them are alive as we are told, among them is petros solomon and few others but we know mahmood sherifo and uQbe abraha died in the infamous prison.

As gullible as we are, we were expecting that mesfin hagos who is living freely in germany may shade a light on the incident while he was one of the commanders during that period of time but as coward as he is, he doesn't want to utter a word about it perhaps he was one of the culprits.


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Re: Understanding our history (ቀይሕ ዕንባባ member testifies Isayas executed 42 highly educated EPLF leaders known as መንካዕ)

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 19 Mar 2023, 10:23

kerenite wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 15:05
eden wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 10:31
Edu,

Your kebesa cousins were on each other's throat in the 70s.

One group was singing:

Akele guzay tederira seraye tederira. Hamassien tsoma Hadira.

So no wonder the hamassien folks labeled the term menkaE to the akeleguzians. It was a region vs. region conflict.

If I am not mistaken the mekaE did have few hammassenis among them but not even a single lowlander.

Petros solomon and sibhat ephrem were proponents of the group menkaE at the beginning but they betrayed them later.

Finally, once the higdef rule becomes history, the true history of our country will be told as it transpired.
Wedi Mohammed Hagos.
You are talking about football rivals and not politics. It is healthy to have rivalry between teams within the country as long as they build a national team and defeat against other teams. Team Hamasien and Akeleguzay were football rivals nothing more and nothing less. It was only the snowflakes who suffers from deep rooted inferior complex who tried to make a politics out of rivalry. Where were the Jeberti and the Navaho tribes in this equation?





In regard to Menkae, Despite the snowflakes tries to make it about regional issues, the issues was about political leaning. The Menakea was a Far right oriented movement while the individuals who prevailed were far leftists lead by the alcholic junk. And there were more individuals from hamasien than akeleguzay in the Mekaa movement who were killed by the junk and his groups but as we say. Amel Mes Megnez, there are snowflakes who just like Agames tries to portray their arse in a victimized position.

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Re: Understanding our history (ቀይሕ ዕንባባ member testifies Isayas executed 42 highly educated EPLF leaders known as መንካዕ)

Post by kerenite » 19 Mar 2023, 16:22

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 10:23
kerenite wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 15:05
eden wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 10:31
Edu,

Your kebesa cousins were on each other's throat in the 70s.

One group was singing:

Akele guzay tederira seraye tederira. Hamassien tsoma Hadira.

So no wonder the hamassien folks labeled the term menkaE to the akeleguzians. It was a region vs. region conflict.

If I am not mistaken the mekaE did have few hammassenis among them but not even a single lowlander.

Petros solomon and sibhat ephrem were proponents of the group menkaE at the beginning but they betrayed them later.

Finally, once the higdef rule becomes history, the true history of our country will be told as it transpired.
Wedi Mohammed Hagos.
You are talking about football rivals and not politics. It is healthy to have rivalry between teams within the country as long as they build a national team and defeat against other teams. Team Hamasien and Akeleguzay were football rivals nothing more and nothing less. It was only the snowflakes who suffers from deep rooted inferior complex who tried to make a politics out of rivalry. Where were the Jeberti and the Navaho tribes in this equation?





In regard to Menkae, Despite the snowflakes tries to make it about regional issues, the issues was about political leaning. The Menakea was a Far right oriented movement while the individuals who prevailed were far leftists lead by the alcholic junk. And there were more individuals from hamasien than akeleguzay in the Mekaa movement who were killed by the junk and his groups but as we say. Amel Mes Megnez, there are snowflakes who just like Agames tries to portray their arse in a victimized position.
Deqi arayit the certified bigot,

Come on don't lie most of those who were killed hailed from the akele guzay region.

Mesfin hagos opted to remain tight-lipped, he is well aware of the massacre while he was in higher position in the first half of the 1970s. Perhaps he was one of the culprits.

FYI deQi arayit, I believe mesfin hagos is a genuine eritrean although I have poliltical differences with him but I am disappointed with him.

But you? I doubt that you are an eritrean, you are the grand-son of kahsay mircha aka the headless atse yohannes. Now go ahead and blabber PEACE BE UPON HIM. AGAZIANS WILL PREVAIL. WE WILL RULE FROM NUBIA TO MADAGASCAR.

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Post by Deqi-Arawit » 19 Mar 2023, 17:13

kerenite wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 16:22

Deqi arayit the certified bigot,

Come on don't lie most of those who were killed hailed from the akele guzay region.

Mesfin hagos opted to remain tight-lipped, he is well aware of the massacre while he was in higher position in the first half of the 1970s. Perhaps he was one of the culprits.

FYI deQi arayit, I believe mesfin hagos is a genuine eritrean although I have poliltical differences with him but I am disappointed with him.

But you? I doubt that you are an eritrean, you are the grand-son of kahsay mircha aka the headless atse yohannes. Now go ahead and blabber PEACE BE UPON HIM. AGAZIANS WILL PREVAIL. WE WILL RULE FROM NUBIA TO MADAGASCAR.
Wedi Mohammed Hagos!
His eminence never lies. There are even individuals who hails from my own ancestral village who were part of the Menkaa movement and who were killed by the leftists. In politics, it is either to kill or get killed and for further reference read Chinese revolutionary history and how Mao Zedong and later Deng Xiaoping neutralized their adversaries and become unchallenged ruler of China.


The snowflakes are always in the forefront to monopolize victimhood as victimhood is a badge of honor. Generally speaking though, You can't make politics or a policy on the base of victimhood ( ግዳይ) ቶተኽየ, ተሰንጪረ፣ ብጎቦ ዓይኖም ሪኦምኒ. You make a policy on the base of short and log term vision and the policy you want to implement to make tomorrow better than Today and yesterday. This is where the most Eritrean snowflakes failed miserably and this is how the alcoholic junk exploit it to his advantage.

In regard to Mesfin Hagos, As a veteran, former defense minister and as a man who have many admirers in the Eritrean Defense forces, opposition groups could have taken advantage of his status, however, given he hails from central region, the snowflakes were reluctant and cautious in their approach and they couldn't trust him. Their argument was, he was whistleblower and double agent dispatched by regime to spy on their activity. And when they approached him, Instead of talking about the future, they were preoccupied with the past as the past has any relevance to our future.

In their desperate effort,Before the demise of the leeches ,the snowflakes lionized Wedi Hagos and they picked him as the chosen one [Mehdi] who is going to take take them to Asmara, but it was too little and too late. Even ardent supporters of wedi Hagos were running out of steam and lost enthusiasm.

One thing is for sure though, regardless what his friends and foes say about the man, He is immortalized in the revolutionary history books as the lion of Nadew Ez which paved the road to liberate Nakfa and Afabet and ultimately independence.

In regard to your alleged claim that his eminence is related to Hatsey Yohannes [ Peace be upon him], I wish I was and I would have taken it as a badge of honor.

Btw, you and the snowflake Dark energy and Wedi Medhin Berad anuxxxus licker woyane-is-dead was talking crap about Hatsey Yohannes [ peace be upon him] As you bitches are going to change his place in history. The man is a legend, a true Jihadist in letter and spirit who went blazing and in the process lost his head. As we speak, he is in paradise, [ deleted ] 72 virgins.

His supreme eminence!

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Re: Understanding our history (ቀይሕ ዕንባባ member testifies Isayas executed 42 highly educated EPLF leaders known as መንካዕ)

Post by Asmara » 19 Mar 2023, 18:19

kerenite wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 13:03
eden wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 08:37
keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.
While those who can tell the true story are languishing in the underground of Ira-iro notorious prison. Some of them are alive as we are told, among them is petros solomon and few others but we know mahmood sherifo and uQbe abraha died in the infamous prison.

As gullible as we are, we were expecting that mesfin hagos who is living freely in germany may shade a light on the incident while he was one of the commanders during that period of time but as coward as he is, he doesn't want to utter a word about it perhaps he was one of the culprits.
I may not agree with Mesfin, but when he is called a coward by the likes of you who hasn't done one millionth of what Mesfin did for Eritrea (assuming you are Eritrean) it makes me feel like urinating on your face. ቁሩብስኪ ሕፍር በል ሰብ እንታይ ክብለኒ እዩ በል።

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Re: Understanding our history (ቀይሕ ዕንባባ member testifies Isayas executed 42 highly educated EPLF leaders known as መንካዕ)

Post by kerenite » 20 Mar 2023, 12:07

Asmara wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 18:19
kerenite wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 13:03
eden wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 08:37
keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.
While those who can tell the true story are languishing in the underground of Ira-iro notorious prison. Some of them are alive as we are told, among them is petros solomon and few others but we know mahmood sherifo and uQbe abraha died in the infamous prison.

As gullible as we are, we were expecting that mesfin hagos who is living freely in germany may shade a light on the incident while he was one of the commanders during that period of time but as coward as he is, he doesn't want to utter a word about it perhaps he was one of the culprits.
I may not agree with Mesfin, but when he is called a coward by the likes of you who hasn't done one millionth of what Mesfin did for Eritrea (assuming you are Eritrean) it makes me feel like urinating on your face. ቁሩብስኪ ሕፍር በል ሰብ እንታይ ክብለኒ እዩ በል።
Urinate what? Qomal

I thought you inda higdef don't like him because he abandoned your sinking sheep and sought asylum in Germany.

Since when does higdefites defend those who have defected and who they constantly dub as traitors?

Hey dude! The hidgefites won't apprciate it and they will be disappointed with you.

P. S. Militarily he may have been a good strategist but in civil manner he is coward. He knows the abc detail of the menkaE incident and in addition the murder of the great IBRAHIM AFFA but as coward as he is, he opted to remain mum.

BTW, is he a double-agent?????? You seem to know him, tell us. We are all ears.

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Re: Understanding our history (ቀይሕ ዕንባባ member testifies Isayas executed 42 highly educated EPLF leaders known as መንካዕ)

Post by Asmara » 20 Mar 2023, 13:32

kerenite wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 12:07
Asmara wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 18:19
kerenite wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 13:03
eden wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 08:37
keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.
While those who can tell the true story are languishing in the underground of Ira-iro notorious prison. Some of them are alive as we are told, among them is petros solomon and few others but we know mahmood sherifo and uQbe abraha died in the infamous prison.

As gullible as we are, we were expecting that mesfin hagos who is living freely in germany may shade a light on the incident while he was one of the commanders during that period of time but as coward as he is, he doesn't want to utter a word about it perhaps he was one of the culprits.
I may not agree with Mesfin, but when he is called a coward by the likes of you who hasn't done one millionth of what Mesfin did for Eritrea (assuming you are Eritrean) it makes me feel like urinating on your face. ቁሩብስኪ ሕፍር በል ሰብ እንታይ ክብለኒ እዩ በል።
Urinate what? Qomal

I thought you inda higdef don't like him because he abandoned your sinking sheep and sought asylum in Germany.

Since when does higdefites defend those who have defected and who they constantly dub as traitors?

Hey dude! The hidgefites won't apprciate it and they will be disappointed with you.

P. S. Militarily he may have been a good strategist but in civil manner he is coward. He knows the abc detail of the menkaE incident and in addition the murder of the great IBRAHIM AFFA but as coward as he is, he opted to remain mum.

BTW, is he a double-agent?????? You seem to know him, tell us. We are all ears.
Know your limit. Try not to punch above your height.
I am not Higdef... but I would rather embrace my brothers and sister in the Higdef camp rather than mingle with low IQ so called opposition members (aka ተቐየምቲ ወይውን ተቓመርቲ)።
ዑሙት no reply after this.

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Post by kerenite » 20 Mar 2023, 15:51

Asmara wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 13:32
kerenite wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 12:07
Asmara wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 18:19
kerenite wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 13:03
eden wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 08:37
keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.
While those who can tell the true story are languishing in the underground of Ira-iro notorious prison. Some of them are alive as we are told, among them is petros solomon and few others but we know mahmood sherifo and uQbe abraha died in the infamous prison.

As gullible as we are, we were expecting that mesfin hagos who is living freely in germany may shade a light on the incident while he was one of the commanders during that period of time but as coward as he is, he doesn't want to utter a word about it perhaps he was one of the culprits.
I may not agree with Mesfin, but when he is called a coward by the likes of you who hasn't done one millionth of what Mesfin did for Eritrea (assuming you are Eritrean) it makes me feel like urinating on your face. ቁሩብስኪ ሕፍር በል ሰብ እንታይ ክብለኒ እዩ በል።
Urinate what? Qomal

I thought you inda higdef don't like him because he abandoned your sinking sheep and sought asylum in Germany.

Since when does higdefites defend those who have defected and who they constantly dub as traitors?

Hey dude! The hidgefites won't apprciate it and they will be disappointed with you.

P. S. Militarily he may have been a good strategist but in civil manner he is coward. He knows the abc detail of the menkaE incident and in addition the murder of the great IBRAHIM AFFA but as coward as he is, he opted to remain mum.

BTW, is he a double-agent?????? You seem to know him, tell us. We are all ears.
Know your limit. Try not to punch above your height.
I am not Higdef... but I would rather embrace my brothers and sister in the Higdef camp rather than mingle with low IQ so called opposition members (aka ተቐየምቲ ወይውን ተቓመርቲ)።
ዑሙት no reply after this.
I know my limit and at the same time you should know your limit too.

You asked what I have done for eritrea compared to mesfin and responded yourself to yourself by saying.... Nada or nothing.

Dude, you don't know me.

My family paid heavy price in the 1960s, our village was burned by the commandis.

Who were the commandis? Well they were king sillassie'sy well trained militias, they were trained by the Israeli and they all hailed from kebessa eritrea.

Songs which were sang by the commandis mothers:

ITI HABROM WEDEY KOMMANDIS KOYNULEY.. KOMMANDIS. (Proud of her son)

BEZI ZIHELEFKA KOMMANDIS DEHAN TEMELESYE.. DEHAN TEMELES.
And so and so forth.

While you were singing ethiopia wey mot lowland eritrea was burning, we were defending ourselves with swords and spears.

This authentic story will be told once your higdef becomes history.

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Post by Eripoblikan » 20 Mar 2023, 16:03

kerenite wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 12:07

P. S. Militarily he may have been a good strategist but in civil manner he is coward. He knows the abc detail of the menkaE incident and in addition the murder of the great IBRAHIM AFFA but as coward as he is, he opted to remain mum.
Can you substantiate the above with tangible evidence?

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Post by Deqi-Arawit » 20 Mar 2023, 19:21

kerenite wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 15:51
Asmara wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 13:32
kerenite wrote:
20 Mar 2023, 12:07
Asmara wrote:
19 Mar 2023, 18:19
kerenite wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 13:03
eden wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 08:37
keren

why wait for HGDEF to go? This is a time when no ruler is able to control information flow.
While those who can tell the true story are languishing in the underground of Ira-iro notorious prison. Some of them are alive as we are told, among them is petros solomon and few others but we know mahmood sherifo and uQbe abraha died in the infamous prison.

As gullible as we are, we were expecting that mesfin hagos who is living freely in germany may shade a light on the incident while he was one of the commanders during that period of time but as coward as he is, he doesn't want to utter a word about it perhaps he was one of the culprits.
I may not agree with Mesfin, but when he is called a coward by the likes of you who hasn't done one millionth of what Mesfin did for Eritrea (assuming you are Eritrean) it makes me feel like urinating on your face. ቁሩብስኪ ሕፍር በል ሰብ እንታይ ክብለኒ እዩ በል።
Urinate what? Qomal

I thought you inda higdef don't like him because he abandoned your sinking sheep and sought asylum in Germany.

Since when does higdefites defend those who have defected and who they constantly dub as traitors?

Hey dude! The hidgefites won't apprciate it and they will be disappointed with you.

P. S. Militarily he may have been a good strategist but in civil manner he is coward. He knows the abc detail of the menkaE incident and in addition the murder of the great IBRAHIM AFFA but as coward as he is, he opted to remain mum.

BTW, is he a double-agent?????? You seem to know him, tell us. We are all ears.
Know your limit. Try not to punch above your height.
I am not Higdef... but I would rather embrace my brothers and sister in the Higdef camp rather than mingle with low IQ so called opposition members (aka ተቐየምቲ ወይውን ተቓመርቲ)።
ዑሙት no reply after this.
I know my limit and at the same time you should know your limit too.

You asked what I have done for eritrea compared to mesfin and responded yourself to yourself by saying.... Nada or nothing.

Dude, you don't know me.

My family paid heavy price in the 1960s, our village was burned by the commandis.

Who were the commandis? Well they were king sillassie'sy well trained militias, they were trained by the Israeli and they all hailed from kebessa eritrea.

Songs which were sang by the commandis mothers:

ITI HABROM WEDEY KOMMANDIS KOYNULEY.. KOMMANDIS. (Proud of her son)

BEZI ZIHELEFKA KOMMANDIS DEHAN TEMELESYE.. DEHAN TEMELES.
And so and so forth.

While you were singing ethiopia wey mot lowland eritrea was burning, we were defending ourselves with swords and spears.

This authentic story will be told once your higdef becomes history.
How do you forget that most of the Commando who later joined the ELF and become the backbone of the struggle?

Victimhood is not bravery....We could bring Wekdedeba Karneshim who fell victim for the atrocities of the Ethiopian invasion army, They never moaned and cried about victimhood, instead they flood the front to avenge the death of their kith and kin and the destruction of their villages.

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Post by eden » 16 May 2023, 07:56

guys, this thread is to inform and educate about our past. It’s not intended for you to continue bickering. grow up!

I truly believe not knowing history is the source of the poverty and insecurity of our people.

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Post by Zmeselo » 16 May 2023, 08:23

Shut up, you slût!




eden wrote:
16 May 2023, 07:56
guys, this thread is to inform and educate about our past. It’s not intended for you to continue bickering. grow up!

I truly believe not knowing history is the source of the poverty and insecurity of our people.

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