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[wazzupdog]

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

[eden]

Reality check:

Isayas supported ethnic based groups like TPLF, OLF, ONLF, GPLF, TPDM, SLF. etc etc. All these are ethnic based organizations Isayas supported. He never supported Esepa, Knijit, Hibret or Medrek. . These are organizations that attempted to transcend ethnicity. The only reasonable conclusion here is he says one thing but does another.

HGDEF uses one Ethiopian group against another.

worked with TPLF against DERG
worked with OLF, ONLF against TPLF
worked with OPDO against TPLF
working with you - ANDM/ FANO - against OPDO
(will work with TPDM against ANDM/ FANO)

This is the record of Isayas. Follow what he does, not what he says.

It's funny it's the Eritrean that has to spell this out to you Ethiopians

[Sam Ebalalehu]

አሁን ጥያቄው Eden ህገመንግሥቱ የተፃፈው ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ታስቦ ነው ወይ የሚል ነው። በርግጥ ነው። የኢሳያስ ትራይባል ድርጅቶችን ስለመደገፉ ሌላ ርእስ ነው። ሌላ ግዜ እናወራዋለን። ሲምታታብሽ ነገር ተደበላልቂያለሽ።

[eden]

Well, TPLF never publicly criticized Isayas during the time of their alliance
OLF, ONLF, AG7 never publicly criticized Isayas during the time of their alliance
OPDO never publicly criticized Isayas during the time of their alliance
ANDM/FANO never publicly criticized Isayas during the time of their alliance

They keep quite, then speak trash when alliance is broken or about to break.

TPLF Seyum Mesfin, OLF Daud Ibsa, OPDO Seyum Teshome all trashed Isayas after alliance was broken or is about to break.

So I don’t expect you to question Isayas today but “ሌላ ግዜ”

[Selam/]

Well, politics is a b!tch!

I am glad Issayas starts to talk about Meles’s sinister plans that we all know about. But the fact of the matter is that he himself never wanted to see a stable Ethiopia.

Both Issayas & Meles were terrorizing Ethiopianists before the so-called referendum. The 42 university professors were expelled at the time of the referendum & no question Issayas played a big role in the decision. Former Ethiopian soldiers were turned to beggars while Issayas was seated in Addis Ababa & many were killed by Shabiya militias long after the end of the war. Issayas was the master-mind of all the crimes committed against Unionist until 1993. Fast forward three decades, Issayas’s new recruits such as OLF & G7 marched to Addis, he decimated his long-time gorilla buddies a few months later and now he appeared to be an advocate of Ethiopia’s unity. This is the spiteful nature of politics.

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

[wazzupdog]

Isaias Afwerki - Eritrean president who believes what he is doing is in the best interest of his country

Meles Zenawi - Ethiopian prime minister who ruled a country he hated and worked most of his life, until his dying days, to dismantle it.

[Selam/]

Very true - And infantile Abiy is in the best interest of his big ego & shallow tribalism.

Isaias Afwerki - Eritrean president who believes what he is doing is in the best interest of his country

Meles Zenawi - Ethiopian prime minister who ruled a country he hated and worked most of his life, until his dying days, to dismantle it.

[Fiyameta]

A united and strong Ethiopia in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

[Selam/]

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

[sun]

Well, politics is a b!tch!

I am glad Issayas starts to talk about Meles’s sinister plans that we all know about. But the fact of the matter is that he himself never wanted to see a stable Ethiopia.

Both Issayas & Meles were terrorizing Ethiopianists before the so-called referendum. The 42 university professors were expelled at the time of the referendum & no question Issayas played a big role in the decision. Former Ethiopian soldiers were turned to beggars while Issayas was seated in Addis Ababa & many were killed by Shabiya militias long after the end of the war. Issayas was the master-mind of all the crimes committed against Unionist until 1993. Fast forward three decades, Issayas’s new recruits such as OLF & G7 marched to Addis, he decimated his long-time gorilla buddies a few months later and now he appeared to be an advocate of Ethiopia’s unity. This is the spiteful nature of politics.

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

To be rational there is not an iota of sinister plan other than practicing the long standing traditional thinking that says, "there are no permanent friends but only permanent interests." If you respect your interests as well as other's interests you are already on safe ground and the Sun may start smiling.

[Fiyameta]

I think you are deliberately demeaning the level of consciousness the Ethiopian people have by portraying them as "gullible" who can't tell friend from foe. Unlike your chameleon leaders of the past, President Isaias Afewerki has remained the same person throughout his life. It is the great awakening and enlightenment of the Ethiopian masses that led them to give an exuberant welcome to the Eritrean president during his historic visit to Ethiopia, which you desperately tried to portray as an "act of mercy." That's something Seyoum Mesfin would say when his inferiority complex gets the best of him.

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia is in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

[Selam/]

ልጅ ፀሃይ - Yes, I will give you that one, you got it right. But expecting others to be kind and respect your interest or allowing Ethiopia to be the only variable in the course of this devolution (if you know what I mean) is a sign of absolute naïveté if not a conspiracy, or criminal gullibility.

Well, politics is a b!tch!

I am glad Issayas starts to talk about Meles’s sinister plans that we all know about. But the fact of the matter is that he himself never wanted to see a stable Ethiopia.

Both Issayas & Meles were terrorizing Ethiopianists before the so-called referendum. The 42 university professors were expelled at the time of the referendum & no question Issayas played a big role in the decision. Former Ethiopian soldiers were turned to beggars while Issayas was seated in Addis Ababa & many were killed by Shabiya militias long after the end of the war. Issayas was the master-mind of all the crimes committed against Unionist until 1993. Fast forward three decades, Issayas’s new recruits such as OLF & G7 marched to Addis, he decimated his long-time gorilla buddies a few months later and now he appeared to be an advocate of Ethiopia’s unity. This is the spiteful nature of politics.

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

To be rational there is not an iota of sinister plan other than practicing the long standing traditional thinking that says, "there are no permanent friends but only permanent interests." If you respect your interests as well as other's interests you are already on safe ground and the Sun may start smiling.

[sun]

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

So what?

Does he need to stay static and unchanging stone rock in the face of the dynamic and fast changing environments?

The former Ethiopian president, Dr. Nagaso Gidada, the black Lion of Wollegga represented Ethiopia on the occasion of the first great Eritrean independence celebration. Current Ethiopian PM Dr. Abiy, the Ethiopia Black Lion traveled all the way to Eritrea, Asmara, to meet the Eritrean president, the the black Lion of nakfa, for the first time in some 30 long years of frozen relationships and unnecessary hostilities and made agreement on the magical peace deal which brought mamma Eritrea from the crushing bondage of sanctions and isolation. Peace, tolerance and cooperation is the way to the wealthy, healthy and happy modern sustainable highway.

[Selam/]

That’s your crooked shabiya interpretation. Read Mathew 10:16 to understand the heart of an Ethiopian.

I think you are deliberately demeaning the level of consciousness the Ethiopian people have by portraying them as "gullible" who can't tell friend from foe. Unlike your chameleon leaders of the past, President Isaias Afewerki has remained the same person throughout his life. It is the great awakening and enlightenment of the Ethiopian masses that led them to give an exuberant welcome to the Eritrean president during his historic visit to Ethiopia, which you desperately tried to portray as an "act of mercy." That's something Seyoum Mesfin would say when his inferiority complex gets the best of him.

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia is in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

[sun]

No, I expect nothing from you and I don't also understand what you mean! I am only saying what I am saying for the general public's general interest. You can just keep following your own principles and I will just keep following my own principles. No big deal in a world where we have some 8 billion people living and kicking. BINGO!!

ልጅ ፀሃይ - Yes, I will give you that one, you got it right. But expecting others to be kind and respect your interest or allowing Ethiopia to be the only variable in the course of this devolution (if you know what I mean) is a sign of absolute naïveté if not a conspiracy, or criminal gullibility.

Well, politics is a b!tch!

I am glad Issayas starts to talk about Meles’s sinister plans that we all know about. But the fact of the matter is that he himself never wanted to see a stable Ethiopia.

Both Issayas & Meles were terrorizing Ethiopianists before the so-called referendum. The 42 university professors were expelled at the time of the referendum & no question Issayas played a big role in the decision. Former Ethiopian soldiers were turned to beggars while Issayas was seated in Addis Ababa & many were killed by Shabiya militias long after the end of the war. Issayas was the master-mind of all the crimes committed against Unionist until 1993. Fast forward three decades, Issayas’s new recruits such as OLF & G7 marched to Addis, he decimated his long-time gorilla buddies a few months later and now he appeared to be an advocate of Ethiopia’s unity. This is the spiteful nature of politics.

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

To be rational there is not an iota of sinister plan other than practicing the long standing traditional thinking that says, "there are no permanent friends but only permanent interests." If you respect your interests as well as other's interests you are already on safe ground and the Sun may start smiling.

[sun]

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

Really?

[Selam/]

ልጅ ፀሃይ - አንተ የኦነግ-ሸኔ ጡሩምባ ነህ። ኦነግ-ሸኔን ደግሞ ጡት እያጠባ እንደ እንጀራ እናት ሆኖ ያሳየገው ኢሳያስ ነው። ስለዚህ በስሜት ተገፍተህ ብትንጨረጨር አይደንቀኝም።

እኔ ስለወመደድ ወይንም ስለመጠላጥ ወይንም ትክክል ስለማድረግና ስላለማድረግ ሳይሆን የማወራው በትክክል ስለተደረጉ ክስተቶች ነው። ኢሳያስ ያደረገው ሁሉ የሀገሩን ሙሉ ጥቅም ለማስጠበቅ መሆኑ ለማንም አይደንቅም። የኢትዮዽያንም ሙሉ ጥቅም አስቦ ነው ያደረገው ካልከኝ ግን ወይ እንፉጭ አለበለዚያም እንደአበልጆችህ ሞላጫ አጭበርባሪ ነህ።

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

So what?

Does he need to stay static and unchanging stone rock in the face of the dynamic and fast changing environments?

The former Ethiopian president, Dr. Nagaso Gidada, the black Lion of Wollegga represented Ethiopia on the occasion of the first great Eritrean independence celebration. Current Ethiopian PM Dr. Abiy, the Ethiopia Black Lion traveled all the way to Eritrea, Asmara, to meet the Eritrean president, the the black Lion of nakfa, for the first time in some 30 long years of frozen relationships and unnecessary hostilities and made agreement on the magical peace deal which brought mamma Eritrea from the crushing bondage of sanctions and isolation. Peace, tolerance and cooperation is the way to the wealthy, healthy and happy modern sustainable highway.

[Selam/]

ልጅ ፀሃይ ፥ ምንም እንደማይገባህማ መቼ ጠፋኝ። ወለጋ በደም ስትጨማለቅ አንገቱን አሸዋ ውስጥ የቀበረ ሰው፣ አይደለም ስለ ኤርትራና ኢትዮዽያ የተተበተበ የውጭ ግንኙነት፣ ስለ ራስህም ስለማወቅህ እጠራጠራለሁ። እንደለመድከው የሚያምርብህን ጦጣና ዝንጀሮ ብትለጥፍ የበለጠ ያዋጣሃል። ከኦሮሞ ውጭ ስለሌላ ህዝብ ሰባዊነት የለኝም ብለህ ራስህን ከበድን ጋር ስለመደብህ፣ የኤርትራን ጉዳይ ብልህ ለሆኑት ኤርትራውያኖች ተውላቸው።

No, I expect nothing from you and I don't also understand what you mean! I am only saying what I am saying for the general public's general interest. You can just keep following your own principles and I will just keep following my own principles. No big deal in a world where we have some 8 billion people living and kicking. BINGO!!

ልጅ ፀሃይ - Yes, I will give you that one, you got it right. But expecting others to be kind and respect your interest or allowing Ethiopia to be the only variable in the course of this devolution (if you know what I mean) is a sign of absolute naïveté if not a conspiracy, or criminal gullibility.

Well, politics is a b!tch!

I am glad Issayas starts to talk about Meles’s sinister plans that we all know about. But the fact of the matter is that he himself never wanted to see a stable Ethiopia.

Both Issayas & Meles were terrorizing Ethiopianists before the so-called referendum. The 42 university professors were expelled at the time of the referendum & no question Issayas played a big role in the decision. Former Ethiopian soldiers were turned to beggars while Issayas was seated in Addis Ababa & many were killed by Shabiya militias long after the end of the war. Issayas was the master-mind of all the crimes committed against Unionist until 1993. Fast forward three decades, Issayas’s new recruits such as OLF & G7 marched to Addis, he decimated his long-time gorilla buddies a few months later and now he appeared to be an advocate of Ethiopia’s unity. This is the spiteful nature of politics.

የወያኔ ሕገመንግስት ኢትዮጵያን ለመገንባት ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ የታቀደ ፈንጅ መሆኑን ቅማላም መለስ ሳጥናዊ ለኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ነግሮት እንደነበር የኤርትራው መሪ ይፋ አደረገ

To be rational there is not an iota of sinister plan other than practicing the long standing traditional thinking that says, "there are no permanent friends but only permanent interests." If you respect your interests as well as other's interests you are already on safe ground and the Sun may start smiling.

[Fiyameta]

The apostle Paul had his conversion on the road to Damascus. And you had yours on the road to Pretoria.

That’s your crooked shabiya interpretation. Read Mathew 10:16 to understand the heart of an Ethiopian.

I think you are deliberately demeaning the level of consciousness the Ethiopian people have by portraying them as "gullible" who can't tell friend from foe. Unlike your chameleon leaders of the past, President Isaias Afewerki has remained the same person throughout his life. It is the great awakening and enlightenment of the Ethiopian masses that led them to give an exuberant welcome to the Eritrean president during his historic visit to Ethiopia, which you desperately tried to portray as an "act of mercy." That's something Seyoum Mesfin would say when his inferiority complex gets the best of him.

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia is in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.

[Selam/]

ሻቦ - ምንድነው ያጨስከው? የጅብ ችኩል ቀንድ ይነክሳል!

I know this stuff is beyond you. I cited Mathew’s quote of Jesus but you jumped on apostle Paul. I told you, you can never understand the heavenly mental setup of an Ethiopian.

The apostle Paul had his conversion on the road to Damascus. And you had yours on the road to Pretoria.

That’s your crooked shabiya interpretation. Read Mathew 10:16 to understand the heart of an Ethiopian.

I think you are deliberately demeaning the level of consciousness the Ethiopian people have by portraying them as "gullible" who can't tell friend from foe. Unlike your chameleon leaders of the past, President Isaias Afewerki has remained the same person throughout his life. It is the great awakening and enlightenment of the Ethiopian masses that led them to give an exuberant welcome to the Eritrean president during his historic visit to Ethiopia, which you desperately tried to portray as an "act of mercy." That's something Seyoum Mesfin would say when his inferiority complex gets the best of him.

When it comes to Issayas’s position on Ethiopia, you have to break down his evolution from gorilla fighter to a Millennium Hall guest. Pre-1993 Issayas is different from post-1993 Issayas. Thank to the “Isu!” chant of merciful Ethiopians, post 2018-Issayas was another evolvement for him. Then came 2020, cycling him back to the 1993 phase.

A united and strong Ethiopia is in Eritrea's best interest, PERIOD, so the allegations that some unscrupulous individuals make about "Eritrea wanting to dismantle Ethiopia", is not only ludicrous but laughable.

Meles Zenawi, having failed to resurrect his Abay Tgray Republic dream that Eritreans killed and buried two decades ago, he realized that his niche lays in making Eritrea look bad so he can look good, and for as long as he lived he blamed Eritrea for all his own evil intents, including every wicked thing he did to dismantle Ethiopia. His mindless disciples are also no different from him that, either purposefully or out of ignorance, they parrot long-debunked conspiracy theories to shield their egos from the harsh reality of their current predicament.