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UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 16 Feb 2023, 14:38

In its first report published in September last year, the UN-backed International Commission of Human Rights Experts on Ethiopia said it had found evidence of violations by all sides that could amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The three-member commission, which was created by the UN Human Rights Council, has urged the Ethiopian government and the TPLF to investigate and bring all perpetrators of abuses to justice.

The war erupted in November 2020 after Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, sent troops into Tigray, accusing the TPLF of attacking army bases there. :mrgreen:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ethiopia-war ... 27702.html

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abere » 16 Feb 2023, 14:55

I have never read or heard like what has happened and is happening in Ethiopia ever happened in any other country in the world. First, the TPLF thugs that committed war crime and mass genocide is are not only walking free but still are supported to do the same harm against Tigray and their neighbor - this gravely immoral. Second, Abiy Ahmed who on daily basis sponsoring ethnic cleansing in Oromiya and intentionally destroyed Amhara, Tigre and Afar in three phase operation to be left untried for his crime shows how the world is negligent about human rights issues in Africa. Ethiopia, generally, is left to be ruled by criminals. This is unacceptable to humanity.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Digital Weyane » 16 Feb 2023, 15:14

ዩ.ኤን. ደሞ በኢትዮጵያ ጉዳይ ውስጥ ሙናባቱ አገባው!? :roll: :roll:

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Sadacha Macca » 16 Feb 2023, 15:34

As if the UN cares. We know they have double standards and ulterior motives when it comes to black and brown people.
That same ENDF was commiting war crimes against Oromo, Somali, etc, for decades, were they calling for justice then? Were they this adamant about accountability then? Or not since it was the TPLF their puppet party ruling and commanding over the ENDF that was commiting those war crimes?
Mind you, I'm all for justice and accountability, but I also can see the obvious hypocrisy, double standards and ulterior motives here. Anyone who is trying to be fair can see that too.
If you think they genuinely care for Ethiopia's well being and stability and development, you're as deluded as halafi who thinks TPLF was gonna conquer Ethiopia Eritrea and then make a new country. Or even more deluded than him.

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Hey abere I have a question, what should Abiys government do then to solve the TPLF issue once and for all the? A lot of you guys on here are pointing out things you disagree with but fail to propose solutions.
Should war that you won't participate in or be involved in, be waged again in Tigray?
So the already weak economy of Ethiopia can collapse further? Which in turn effects things like the prices of food and essential items? Are you going to hell the poor in Ethiopia with those things then or at least help the nation you purportedly claim, the Amara?
Most likely not. You'll just get in here talking tough and much but not doing much.
Can you also give us irrefutable proof that Abiy sponsors those war crimes in Oromia? And how? And name specific incidents and so on?

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 16 Feb 2023, 15:50

Demeke Mekonnen is trying so hard :mrgreen: it won't be enough dude. Accountability is a must!! We should also demand that the Shimelis unrestrained killing machine has to be restrained and hold accountable.


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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abere » 16 Feb 2023, 16:28

Accountability is the cornerstone of good governance. It is adding insult to injury to leave Ethiopians ruled by their own criminal killers. What kind of government is letting Sebhat Nega walking free, a notorious highly wanted genocidal thug? This is just one out of the many. Criminals should be hold accountable. Anyone sympathizing with criminals either lacks integrity or is a partner in crime. Of course peace is desired by Ethiopians, but that does not mean those hurt by TPLF or PP-OLF should sustain the agony and the damage. The gate to peace shall be made open to those who are peaceful not those alligators with a lot of dead human body in their bellies. Just last week, tens of Ethiopians were killed by Abiy Ahmed thugs and yesterday peaceful Gurage people are mowed down by Abiy Ahmed's killing squad. In a country where its government daily business is killing, enabling this kind of monster is equivalent to funding and supporting genocide.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abdisa » 16 Feb 2023, 17:34

The former US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton admitted to helping plan foreign coups.


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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Right » 16 Feb 2023, 17:37

The UN will come after the Abiye regime until he delivered for all the US is asking for which by the way he had agreed and signed in SA and Kenya.
These Oromuma idiots have no a clue on how politics is run.
That is a fraction of the dozens knowledge demanding problems they are facing. They already run out of currency reserves and inflation is uncontrollable.
And they are flirting with religion and language crises. They are doing all this while they let the TPLF loose.
Welcome to the clown Abiye world.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by eden » 16 Feb 2023, 18:24

The UN is not interested in accountability/ justice because it’s implicated, its chief was denying what was happening:

https://www.youtube.com/live/88tCynEf0Pk?feature=share

The UN already has records in Bosnia and Rwanda consistent with its record in Ethiopia, unwilling to confront its part

I’m hoping there are some within UN that try to do the right thing and bring the truth out, at the minimum.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 16 Feb 2023, 18:37

Unless justice is served to promptly redress for the harm the victims have suffered, the current gov't will only double down on its adventures murders. It ain't a revenges or anything of that sort but making sure that nobody should be allowed to walk free after exterminating innocent civilians.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Hawzen » 16 Feb 2023, 19:33

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 14:38
.....The war erupted in November 2020 after Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, sent troops into Tigray..... :mrgreen:
Brother Za-Ilmaknun,

Are you saying Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed started the war by sending troops to Tigray? It looks like you have started to deny the fact that TPLF triggered the war by attacking the Norther Command. Can you elaborated who the people of "Northern Ethiopia" are? Can you also please explain to us why the federal government could commit abuses against the people of "Northern Ethiopia"?

I am getting confused by few Amhara brothers and sisters here in ER like brother Abere, You and few others....

You don't have to kiss agames feet to hate Dr. Abby. Don't get wrong.. I am not saying you should not hate your prime minister.. because you have every right to do so.. But I don't understand why you need to kiss agames as*s to strengthen your case against Dr. Abby led Federal government... Everybody knows that TPLF started the war by attacking the northern command when they were sleeping... Now, all of a sudden, Dr. Abby started the war by sending troops....


The way we, Eritreans, see things is that agames are the worst enemy of Eritrea and the people of Eritrea and if it happens that anybody tries to compromise the integrity of our national sovereignty including for example Dr. Abby or the Amhara killil government, we will never ever try to change our course and kiss agames stinky behind like you are trying to do. Instead, Dr. Abby or Amhara killil will be our second enemy in addition to the twisted heart agames.

It makes me to question if indeed the word "Principle" exists in few Amhara brothers and sisters dictionary...

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 16 Feb 2023, 20:13

Hawzen wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 19:33
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 14:38
.....The war erupted in November 2020 after Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, sent troops into Tigray..... :mrgreen:
Brother Za-Ilmaknun,

Are you saying Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed started the war by sending troops to Tigray? It looks like you have started to deny the fact that TPLF triggered the war by attacking the Norther Command. Can you elaborated who the people of "Northern Ethiopia" are? Can you also please explain to us why the federal government could commit abuses against the people of "Northern Ethiopia"?

I am getting confused by few Amhara brothers and sisters here in ER like brother Abere, You and few others....

You don't have to kiss agames feet to hate Dr. Abby. Don't get wrong.. I am not saying you should not hate your prime minister.. because you have every right to do so.. But I don't understand why you need to kiss agames as*s to strengthen your case against Dr. Abby led Federal government... Everybody knows that TPLF started the war by attacking the northern command when they were sleeping... Now, all of a sudden, Dr. Abby started the war by sending troops....


The way we, Eritreans, see things is that agames are the worst enemy of Eritrea and the people of Eritrea and if it happens that anybody tries to compromise the integrity of our national sovereignty including for example Dr. Abby or the Amhara killil government, we will never ever try to change our course and kiss agames stinky behind like you are trying to do. Instead, Dr. Abby or Amhara killil will be our second enemy in addition to the twisted heart agames.

It makes me to question if indeed the word "Principle" exists in few Amhara brothers and sisters dictionary...

Dedebit is always dedeb
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Brother Howzen,

I am not sure whether you had taken the time to read the article. I took the statement straight from the article and it says..The war erupted in November 2020 after Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, sent troops into Tigray, accusing the TPLF of attacking army bases there. :mrgreen:

You missed the part that points to the fact that the reason to send the troops to rout TPLF is TPLF's attacking of the army basis in Tigrai. For your disappointment ...we kiss nobody's nothing. It ain't hate that motivates us to fight for justice. We do think that TPLF is our mortal enemy and we shall never forgive nor forget the atrocities they committed against our people. That is an established fact!!

Unless you don't want to or unable to see the big picture, we have transitioned to the second and more dangerous phase of this dirty conflict. I don't hold grudges against you for your intransigence for I see the naivety in your assertions. The PM is playing cozy with our mortal enemy to use them against us in order to execute his next dubious move of obliterating what is left of us in the very near future. . We just can't be fooled and let that happen to us without throwing a punch from or two. I do understand your loyalty to "the man in the high castle". However, loyalty and friendship isn't what he respects the most to your disappointment. I did never venture to say anything about your position towards the man for you will find out the hardest way sooner than you might imagine. Otherwise preaching about integrity and love of the motherland to us is like " the girl trying to teach her mom about labor and delivery" :mrgreen:

I am not even talking the subject of the thread :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Mar 2023, 12:49

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1፤ ሂውማን ራይትስዎችንና አምነስቲ ኢንተርናሽናልን ጨምሮ 63 የሰብዓዊ መብት ተሟጋቾችና ሲቪል ማኅበራት በኢትዮጵያው ጦርነት ተፈጽመዋል የተባሉ ዓለማቀፍ ወንጀሎችን እንዲመረምር ተመድ ያቋቋመው ኮሚሽን ተልዕኮ እንዲያበቃ ኢትዮጵያ የምታደርገውን ጥረት የተመድ ሰብዓዊ መብቶች ምክር ቤት ውድቅ እንዲያደርግ ጠይቀዋል። ድርጅቶቹ፣ የመርማሪ ኮሚሽኑ ተልዕኮ እንዲቋረጥ መጠየቅ፣ አደገኛ ተሞክሮ ይሆናል ብለዋል። የኢትዮጵያ መንግሥት "በሰብዓዊ መብት ተሟጋቾች ላይ እየተፈጸመው ያለው ጥሰት አሳስቦናል" ያሉት ድርጅቶቹ፣ የሰብዓዊ መብት ጥሰት ምርመራው እጅግ አስፈላጊ መሆኑን ገልጸዋል። ኢትዮጵያ ዓመታዊ ጉባዔውን እያካሄደ ያለው ምክር ቤቱ፣ ኮሚሽኑን እንዲበትን የሚጠይቅ የውሳኔ ሃሳብ ለምክር ቤቱ አባል አገራት እንዳቀረበች ሰሞኑን ተዘግቦ ነበር።

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Right » 01 Mar 2023, 13:28

They will come after the PP thugs until Abiye delivered or do what he has been asked to do.

They are not after the war criminals. It is politics.

Abiye is also black mailed by Arabs. He has another problem of sexuality.

Time will tell. It will come out.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abere » 01 Mar 2023, 13:37

If UN is really looking for the criminals (which itself is also an enabler) why does not first arrest and question Tewodros Adhanom sitting right in the UN office? Why so much fuss about it while criminals TPLFs (such as Debretsion, Getachew Reda, Tadesse Worede, Migibe, etc) are openly sitting in Mekelle? Is the UN saying these are not criminals? Who are then the criminals? Also, the world knows Abiy Ahmed is criminal. Why does not the UN just call him he is wanted criminal. Any country that has Abiy Ahmed should pass him to the ICC. Provide the list of highly wanted criminal to the governments of the world and Ethiopia. Period.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abe Abraham » 01 Mar 2023, 16:12

Sadacha Macca wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 15:34


As if the UN cares. We know they have double standards and ulterior motives when it comes to black and brown people.



That same ENDF was commiting war crimes against Oromo, Somali, etc, for decades, were they calling for justice then? Were they this adamant about accountability then? Or not since it was the TPLF their puppet party ruling and commanding over the ENDF that was commiting those war crimes ?


Mind you, I'm all for justice and accountability, but I also can see the obvious hypocrisy, double standards and ulterior motives here. Anyone who is trying to be fair can see that too.


If you think they genuinely care for Ethiopia's well being and stability and development, you're as deluded as halafi who thinks TPLF was gonna conquer Ethiopia Eritrea and then make a new country. Or even more deluded than him.


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Hey abere I have a question, what should Abiys government do then to solve the TPLF issue once and for all the? A lot of you guys on here are pointing out things you disagree with but fail to propose solutions.

Should war that you won't participate in or be involved in, be waged again in Tigray?
So the already weak economy of Ethiopia can collapse further? Which in turn effects things like the prices of food and essential items? Are you going to hell the poor in Ethiopia with those things then or at least help the nation you purportedly claim, the Amara?

Most likely not. You'll just get in here talking tough and much but not doing much.
Can you also give us irrefutable proof that Abiy sponsors those war crimes in Oromia? And how? And name specific incidents and so on?
Sadacha Macca,

Your parents sent you to school to learn how to think properly. I am glad that you haven't let them down. The two things that afflict some people in Ethiopia are the inability to think clearly and luck of conscience.


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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Mar 2023, 17:38

https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cwlw3xz047jt/ethiopia

Civil society and human rights groups have called on the UN to block efforts by the Ethiopian government to end an independent probe into crimes allegedly committed during a brutal civil war in the country’s north.

The more than 60 organisations include Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

In a letter written to the UN Human Rights Council member states, the organisations said they were alarmed by plans by Addis Ababa to present a resolution that seeks to cut short a UN- mandated inquiry.

Ethiopia has resisted the UN’s International Commission of Human Rights Experts on Ethiopia (ICHREE) since its inception in 2021 calling it politically motivated and had previously attempted to cut its funding.

Last month, the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Demeke Mekonnen urged the African Union to support Ethiopia’s bid to terminate what he called the commission’s “unwarranted mandate”.

The civil society and rights organisations called this push by Addis Ababa “unprecedented” and one that could set “a dangerous precedent” about avoiding international scrutiny.

The ICHREE work is needed to ensure justice and accountability particularly as trust in domestic institutions is eroded and authorities continue to harass human rights defenders, the organisations say.

Ethiopia’s civil war was marked by accusations of grave rights violations including killing of unarmed civilians and use of rape as a weapon, some of which according to the UN could amount to war crimes.

All warring parties have been accused of the crimes.

A landmark peace deal was signed in November between the government and fighters from Tigray region and helped a return of relative peace and normality to northern Ethiopia.

But there is still little to no signs of holding perpetrators accountable for alleged abuses.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abere » 01 Mar 2023, 17:42

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:38
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cwlw3xz047jt/ethiopia

Civil society and human rights groups have called on the UN to block efforts by the Ethiopian government to end an independent probe into crimes allegedly committed during a brutal civil war? in the country’s north. How about in the South, Wollega?

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Mar 2023, 17:52

Abere wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:42
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:38
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cwlw3xz047jt/ethiopia

Civil society and human rights groups have called on the UN to block efforts by the Ethiopian government to end an independent probe into crimes allegedly committed during a brutal civil war? in the country’s north. How about in the South, Wollega?
For now this probe seems to be only focused on the atrocities committed in the north by TPLF and OLF. However, once this probe starts to take off, insiders are reporting that the investigations of the Wellega, Ataye, Shashemene, WelQite and etc,. genocides will be coming up too. The focus of the probe is on the OPDO gov't and it shall continue to encompass atrocities that are being committed everywhere in the country.

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Re: UN is still demanding probe abuses committed against people of Northern Ethiopia by TPLF & Abiy's military

Post by Abere » 01 Mar 2023, 18:08

If the UN comes clean and impartial that is fine. TPLF and OLF should never get clean pass, it is morally repugnant. Ethiopian and Ethiopians SHOULD NOT reward heinous criminals. There has to be strong push from the civic society regarding the crime in the Southern part of Ethiopia as well.
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:52
Abere wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:42
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:38
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cwlw3xz047jt/ethiopia

Civil society and human rights groups have called on the UN to block efforts by the Ethiopian government to end an independent probe into crimes allegedly committed during a brutal civil war? in the country’s north. How about in the South, Wollega?
For now this probe seems to be only focused on the atrocities committed in the north by TPLF and OLF. However, once this probe starts to take off, insiders are reporting that the investigations of the Wellega, Ataye, Shashemene, WelQite and etc,. genocides will be coming up too. The focus of the probe is on the OPDO gov't and it shall continue to encompass atrocities that are being committed everywhere in the country.

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