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Wedi
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"ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!!

Post by Wedi » 02 Jan 2023, 13:37

"ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Za-Ilmaknun
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Re: "ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!!

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 02 Jan 2023, 14:31

Wedi,

This is a proven fact. Lemma is the person who handed over those shinny and deadly weaponry in bulk to OLF when he was a Minister at the Defense Dept. Abiy doesn't have acceptance by the majority of Oromo political parties not because of his stand to support Orommuma but because of their misunderstanding of his tactical Ethiopianism. Now the "Ethiopianist" block seems to be increasingly revoking its support for the wobbling wish -washy man to finally hasten his demise. He seems to be looking to develop a new constituency in the TPLF camp, tho.. :mrgreen:

When Atse Yohhanes persecuted Muslims in Wello and tried to baptize the Wello Amhara muslims at Boru-meda, those Muslim Wolloyes left Wello en-masse and settled in Jimma and Haraghe, specifically in Gri-QoCher area. You may go to those places and, you will find a huge number of people who claim to have their ancestors came from Wello.

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Re: "ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!!

Post by Abere » 02 Jan 2023, 14:53

የቦሩ ሜዳ እና የዐጼ ዮሀንስ ማጥመቅ እጅግ የተጋነነ ይመስለኛል። እንድሁ ለፓለቲካ ፍጆታ ሲባል ከሚገባው በላይ ተስተጋባ እንጅ አጼ ዮሀንስ የሚወራለትን ያህል አይመስለኝም። አገር ጥሎ እስከመሰደድ የሚያደርስ ሊሆን እይችልም። ስለዚህ የወሎ ሙስሊም ጅማ በአጼ ዮሀንስ ምክንያት በሰፊው ተሰድቷል የሚለው በዚያን ዘመን አንጻር ትክክል ሊሆን አይችልም። በርካታ ወሎየዎች ጅማ ያሉበት ምክንያት ወሎየዎች ሲራራ ነጋደዎች ናቸው። ከጥንት ጀምሮ ንግድ የሚወድ ህዝብ ነው። እንደሚባለው በርካታ ወሎየዎች ከዐረብ ጋር ትሥስር አላቸው። ዐሊ ቤት እና አበይ ቤት የሚባሉ አጠራሮች አሉ - ከአረብ ንግድ ጋር የተገናኙ ናቸው። መሃመዲያዊያን ናቸው ለማለት ነው -ግንዳቸው።
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 14:31
Wedi,

This is a proven fact. Lemma is the person who handed over those shinny and deadly weaponry in bulk to OLF when he was a Minister at the Defense Dept. Abiy doesn't have acceptance by the majority of Oromo political parties not because of his stand to support Orommuma but because of their misunderstanding of his tactical Ethiopianism. Now the "Ethiopianist" block seems to be increasingly revoking its support for the wobbling wish -washy man to finally hasten his demise. He seems to be looking to develop a new constituency in the TPLF camp, tho.. :mrgreen:

When Atse Yohhanes persecuted Muslims in Wello and tried to baptize the Wello Amhara muslims at Boru-meda, those Muslim Wolloyes left Wello en-masse and settled in Jimma and Haraghe, specifically in Gri-QoCher area. You may go to those places and, you will find a huge number of people who claim to have their ancestors came from Wello.

Za-Ilmaknun
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Re: "ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!!

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 02 Jan 2023, 15:13

Abere wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 14:53
የቦሩ ሜዳ እና የዐጼ ዮሀንስ ማጥመቅ እጅግ የተጋነነ ይመስለኛል። እንድሁ ለፓለቲካ ፍጆታ ሲባል ከሚገባው በላይ ተስተጋባ እንጅ አጼ ዮሀንስ የሚወራለትን ያህል አይመስለኝም። አገር ጥሎ እስከመሰደድ የሚያደርስ ሊሆን እይችልም። ስለዚህ የወሎ ሙስሊም ጅማ በአጼ ዮሀንስ ምክንያት በሰፊው ተሰድቷል የሚለው በዚያን ዘመን አንጻር ትክክል ሊሆን አይችልም። በርካታ ወሎየዎች ጅማ ያሉበት ምክንያት ወሎየዎች ሲራራ ነጋደዎች ናቸው። ከጥንት ጀምሮ ንግድ የሚወድ ህዝብ ነው። እንደሚባለው በርካታ ወሎየዎች ከዐረብ ጋር ትሥስር አላቸው። ዐሊ ቤት እና አበይ ቤት የሚባሉ አጠራሮች አሉ - ከአረብ ንግድ ጋር የተገናኙ ናቸው። መሃመዲያዊያን ናቸው ለማለት ነው -ግንዳቸው።
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 14:31
Wedi,

This is a proven fact. Lemma is the person who handed over those shinny and deadly weaponry in bulk to OLF when he was a Minister at the Defense Dept. Abiy doesn't have acceptance by the majority of Oromo political parties not because of his stand to support Orommuma but because of their misunderstanding of his tactical Ethiopianism. Now the "Ethiopianist" block seems to be increasingly revoking its support for the wobbling wish -washy man to finally hasten his demise. He seems to be looking to develop a new constituency in the TPLF camp, tho.. :mrgreen:

When Atse Yohhanes persecuted Muslims in Wello and tried to baptize the Wello Amhara muslims at Boru-meda, those Muslim Wolloyes left Wello en-masse and settled in Jimma and Haraghe, specifically in Gri-QoCher area. You may go to those places and, you will find a huge number of people who claim to have their ancestors came from Wello.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Mikael_of_Wollo

Conversion to Christianity

In the infamous "Council of Boru Meda," Emperor Yohannes forced Mohammed Ali and the Muslim aristocrats of Wollo to convert to Christianity within three months or renounce their positions. "Having concluded that Wollo was worth a mass," Marcus claims, "Mohammad Ali led his people to Christianity." Nevertheless, while some of the leaders of Wollo converted to Christianity, the vast majority of the Muslim populace of Wollo refused to convert and revolted. As a consequence, Atse Yohanne campaigned throghtout Wollo, massacaring thousands of Wollo Muslims to break their resistance. Mohammed Ali was baptized with the name "Mikael" and became a Ras (equivalent to "Duke"). Many Muslims from Wollo left for sanctuary in Metemma, Jimma, and Harar.

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Re: "ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!!

Post by Abere » 02 Jan 2023, 15:27

I think Atse Yohannes tried to convert Muslims of Wollo to Christianity. But to imagine mass out migration elsewhere is less plausible. There likely be exaggeration by writers as to the scale. በመጀመርያ ንጉስ ሚካኤል እና የእርሳቸው የበታች ሹማምንት በፈቀዳቸው አምባሰል ማቅ ገበቴ ጎልቦ ሚካኤል መጠመቃቸው ሃቅ ነው። አንዳንድ የሙስሊም ምዕምን እና ሼህ ግን እምቢ ማለተቸው በሰፊው ይነገራል። ለምሳሌ የመቅደላው ሼህ ውሴን ጅብሪል በደሴው መምሬ ግርማ እጅ እንድጠመቁ ሲጠየቁ

ለትንሽ ቀን ብየ አልበላም ነጃሳ፥
ወንዝ ለወንዝ ሂጀ እበላለሁ አሳ።

ብለው ተናግረዋል ወደ የትም ግን አልሸሹም። ስር የሰደደ ሙከራ ያደረጉ አይመስለኝም አጼ ዮሀንስ - ለዚህ ደግሞ እጅግ ብዙ ቁጥር ያለው ወሎየ አሁንም ሙስሊም ነው። ጅማ ድረስ ሸዋን አቋርጦ የሚሰድ ምክንያት የለም። ካለም ንግድ ስራ ፍለጋ እና በፊት ቦታውን ቀድመው የሚያውቁ ኗሪዎች አሉ ማለት ነው። አሁን ዐብይ ስለ ወሎ እና ጅማ ግንኙነት የሚያወራው ሌላ የፓለቲካ ዝምድና ቆጠራ እንጅ የሃይማኖት ጉዳይ አይደለም። ወሎ ከሸዋ እና ጎንደር እንጅ ከወለጋ እና ጅማ ጋር ግን....
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 15:13
Abere wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 14:53
የቦሩ ሜዳ እና የዐጼ ዮሀንስ ማጥመቅ እጅግ የተጋነነ ይመስለኛል። እንድሁ ለፓለቲካ ፍጆታ ሲባል ከሚገባው በላይ ተስተጋባ እንጅ አጼ ዮሀንስ የሚወራለትን ያህል አይመስለኝም። አገር ጥሎ እስከመሰደድ የሚያደርስ ሊሆን እይችልም። ስለዚህ የወሎ ሙስሊም ጅማ በአጼ ዮሀንስ ምክንያት በሰፊው ተሰድቷል የሚለው በዚያን ዘመን አንጻር ትክክል ሊሆን አይችልም። በርካታ ወሎየዎች ጅማ ያሉበት ምክንያት ወሎየዎች ሲራራ ነጋደዎች ናቸው። ከጥንት ጀምሮ ንግድ የሚወድ ህዝብ ነው። እንደሚባለው በርካታ ወሎየዎች ከዐረብ ጋር ትሥስር አላቸው። ዐሊ ቤት እና አበይ ቤት የሚባሉ አጠራሮች አሉ - ከአረብ ንግድ ጋር የተገናኙ ናቸው። መሃመዲያዊያን ናቸው ለማለት ነው -ግንዳቸው።
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 14:31
Wedi,

This is a proven fact. Lemma is the person who handed over those shinny and deadly weaponry in bulk to OLF when he was a Minister at the Defense Dept. Abiy doesn't have acceptance by the majority of Oromo political parties not because of his stand to support Orommuma but because of their misunderstanding of his tactical Ethiopianism. Now the "Ethiopianist" block seems to be increasingly revoking its support for the wobbling wish -washy man to finally hasten his demise. He seems to be looking to develop a new constituency in the TPLF camp, tho.. :mrgreen:

When Atse Yohhanes persecuted Muslims in Wello and tried to baptize the Wello Amhara muslims at Boru-meda, those Muslim Wolloyes left Wello en-masse and settled in Jimma and Haraghe, specifically in Gri-QoCher area. You may go to those places and, you will find a huge number of people who claim to have their ancestors came from Wello.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Mikael_of_Wollo

Conversion to Christianity

In the infamous "Council of Boru Meda," Emperor Yohannes forced Mohammed Ali and the Muslim aristocrats of Wollo to convert to Christianity within three months or renounce their positions. "Having concluded that Wollo was worth a mass," Marcus claims, "Mohammad Ali led his people to Christianity." Nevertheless, while some of the leaders of Wollo converted to Christianity, the vast majority of the Muslim populace of Wollo refused to convert and revolted. As a consequence, Atse Yohanne campaigned throghtout Wollo, massacaring thousands of Wollo Muslims to break their resistance. Mohammed Ali was baptized with the name "Mikael" and became a Ras (equivalent to "Duke"). Many Muslims from Wollo left for sanctuary in Metemma, Jimma, and Harar.

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Re: "ለማ መገርሳ የኦሮሞ ሸኔ ነው” ለጅማ ከወለጋ ይልቅ ወሎ ይቀርበዋል፡፡ ጅማ እና ወለጋ አብረው መቆም አይችሉ!!" ዐብይ አህመድ WEEY GUUD!!

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 02 Jan 2023, 16:09

ማስረጃ ካለህ አቅርብ፥ በተረፈ፥ በሰፊው የተፃፈን እውነት በስሜት መሻር አይቻልም። ቦታዎቹን ሄደህ በአካል አረጋግጥ፥ እውነታው ዛሬም ያለ ስለሆነ።

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Post by Noble Amhara » 02 Jan 2023, 16:11

This may explain why some jimman women look identical to wolloye amhara
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 15:13
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02 Jan 2023, 14:53
የቦሩ ሜዳ እና የዐጼ ዮሀንስ ማጥመቅ እጅግ የተጋነነ ይመስለኛል። እንድሁ ለፓለቲካ ፍጆታ ሲባል ከሚገባው በላይ ተስተጋባ እንጅ አጼ ዮሀንስ የሚወራለትን ያህል አይመስለኝም። አገር ጥሎ እስከመሰደድ የሚያደርስ ሊሆን እይችልም። ስለዚህ የወሎ ሙስሊም ጅማ በአጼ ዮሀንስ ምክንያት በሰፊው ተሰድቷል የሚለው በዚያን ዘመን አንጻር ትክክል ሊሆን አይችልም። በርካታ ወሎየዎች ጅማ ያሉበት ምክንያት ወሎየዎች ሲራራ ነጋደዎች ናቸው። ከጥንት ጀምሮ ንግድ የሚወድ ህዝብ ነው። እንደሚባለው በርካታ ወሎየዎች ከዐረብ ጋር ትሥስር አላቸው። ዐሊ ቤት እና አበይ ቤት የሚባሉ አጠራሮች አሉ - ከአረብ ንግድ ጋር የተገናኙ ናቸው። መሃመዲያዊያን ናቸው ለማለት ነው -ግንዳቸው።
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02 Jan 2023, 14:31
Wedi,

This is a proven fact. Lemma is the person who handed over those shinny and deadly weaponry in bulk to OLF when he was a Minister at the Defense Dept. Abiy doesn't have acceptance by the majority of Oromo political parties not because of his stand to support Orommuma but because of their misunderstanding of his tactical Ethiopianism. Now the "Ethiopianist" block seems to be increasingly revoking its support for the wobbling wish -washy man to finally hasten his demise. He seems to be looking to develop a new constituency in the TPLF camp, tho.. :mrgreen:

When Atse Yohhanes persecuted Muslims in Wello and tried to baptize the Wello Amhara muslims at Boru-meda, those Muslim Wolloyes left Wello en-masse and settled in Jimma and Haraghe, specifically in Gri-QoCher area. You may go to those places and, you will find a huge number of people who claim to have their ancestors came from Wello.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Mikael_of_Wollo

Conversion to Christianity

In the infamous "Council of Boru Meda," Emperor Yohannes forced Mohammed Ali and the Muslim aristocrats of Wollo to convert to Christianity within three months or renounce their positions. "Having concluded that Wollo was worth a mass," Marcus claims, "Mohammad Ali led his people to Christianity." Nevertheless, while some of the leaders of Wollo converted to Christianity, the vast majority of the Muslim populace of Wollo refused to convert and revolted. As a consequence, Atse Yohanne campaigned throghtout Wollo, massacaring thousands of Wollo Muslims to break their resistance. Mohammed Ali was baptized with the name "Mikael" and became a Ras (equivalent to "Duke"). Many Muslims from Wollo left for sanctuary in Metemma, Jimma, and Harar.

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Post by Misraq » 02 Jan 2023, 16:20

Cone artist Abiy has run out of lies and manipulations. He is embarrassing himself on the way he manufactures lies and alligations. if Abiy is against Lemma, why he approved and supported lemma on his job for FAO? The fall out between Abiy & Lemma is that Lemma started to work with Jawar & Gerba trying to accelerate project Oromuma. As sleak and devilish Abiy is, he went against them saying that Oromuma project can't go in a speed Jawar & Lemma suggested. He told them that they can lose power. That is their only difference.

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 02 Jan 2023, 16:54

Misraq wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 16:20
Cone artist Abiy has run out of lies and manipulations. He is embarrassing himself on the way he manufactures lies and alligations. if Abiy is against Lemma, why he approved and supported lemma on his job for FAO? The fall out between Abiy & Lemma is that Lemma started to work with Jawar & Gerba trying to accelerate project Oromuma. As sleak and devilish Abiy is, he went against them saying that Oromuma project can't go in a speed Jawar & Lemma suggested. He told them that they can lose power. That is their only difference.
Yes, the PM is incrementalistic while the Jawar/Lemma camp wants to drive the Orommuma project at speed of light. Obo lemma had the full intentions to be the PM of the country after the then two years transition had ended, hence the reason why he was against the formation of PP. Alas!!
This article came to my mind which articulated what we see today almost two and half years ago.

"The bitter and irreconcilable difference between Obo Lemma Megerssa and PM Abiy Ahmed should be seen in light of the virtue of their positions in the party structure and country politics. Lemma is instrumental in the making of what the PM is today and the PM has amply demonstrated his indebtedness to his endearing friend. However, political ambitions are not something always to be subdued by cordial relationships and loyalty to friendship. It is widely believed that Obo Lemma has the relative trust and acceptance by significant portion of the Oromo politicians while PM Abiy is painted with the wider “neftegna” brush by same group aiming at discrediting his Oromoness. This has made it harder for the latter to muster meaningful support from the ODP cadres and the radical ethnic elites.
One should only question why Obo Lemma is against the formation of Prosperity party whose end game practically is ensuring the domination of Oromo in Ethiopia and the reinvention of the country in the Orommuma image as attested by the recently leaked audio recordings of Mr Abdissa. By contriving Prosperity party, PM Abiy Ahmed outmaneuvered obo Lemma and shielded himself from the constant threat hanging around his neck as leader of ODP. This move effectively neutralized the larger than life size of Lemma’s political influence from the arena of ODP politics paving the way for the PM to focus on his wider vision."

https://zehabesha.com/is-it-too-late-to ... ioning-to/

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 02 Jan 2023, 19:00

Mere speculation and rumors based on you guys internalized bias against Oromo... is all I see here. The fact is, lamma was against dismantling the OPDO, and forming the pp because it's just another step towards further centralizing power, which more times than not leads to the rise of tyrannical derg like governments which in turn provokes the creation of several liberation armies based on ethnicity. 1974-1990 all over again.
.... Not to mention this wasn't what the Oromo led and initiated struggle was for.
Oromummaa project is simply doing what's best for Oromo and Oromia, which inevitably entails Oromo being empowered at the federal level and of course, being the sole rulers of their state, Oromia. This is how we can make up for the decades perhaps even century long time that Oromos were marginalized and their lands development were purposely neglected to keep us Oromo poor, undereducated and so on.
This was the policy of the governments before and must never be tolerated again.

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Post by Wedi » 02 Jan 2023, 19:24

Sadacha Macca wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 19:00

Oromummaa project is simply doing what's best for Oromo and Oromia, which inevitably entails Oromo being empowered at the federal level and of course, being the sole rulers of their state, Oromia. This is how we can make up for the decades perhaps even century long time that Oromos were marginalized and their lands development were purposely neglected to keep us Oromo poor, undereducated and so on.
This was the policy of the governments before and must never be tolerated again.

Galla Sadacha Macca what do you mean "being the sole rulers of their state, Oromia."?

What about the non-ethinic Oromo who lived their for centuries? Aren't they the owner of the land?

Gallas are always primitive people no matter how much you invest and educate them. The satament Galla Sadacha wrote above is a proof of this fact.

You are living in America and you are the owner of America like other Americans. But you do not want to give the same right for non- Oromo Ethiopians that live in Oromia like the rights you enjoyed by living America. Shame on YOU!! :oops:

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 02 Jan 2023, 19:41

Wedi aka tarik aka tog wajale aka judgement day 1234,

Yes Oromo are the sole rulers of Oromia. Hence why the lands named after us. Never said anything about harming minorities in Oromia or that they should be deprived of their rights. But, yes, majority rules, minority rights, is what it is.
The same way a minority would never rule Amara state. Or a minority (irob, afar, saho) would never rule Tigray or Somali or Afar states, respectively.


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Post by kibramlak » 03 Jan 2023, 01:13

Let me leave aside the historical claims of the areas that you claim as Oromia land. Rather, let me point to your own words about "Majority rule" and ask you this:

What does oromuma have to do in Addis Ababa given the fact that oromos are less than 10% and Addis is supposed to have its autonomous administrative system, beside being the capital of the country ?



Sadacha Macca wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 19:41
Wedi aka tarik aka tog wajale aka judgement day 1234,

Yes Oromo are the sole rulers of Oromia. Hence why the lands named after us. Never said anything about harming minorities in Oromia or that they should be deprived of their rights. But, yes, majority rules, minority rights, is what it is.
The same way a minority would never rule Amara state. Or a minority (irob, afar, saho) would never rule Tigray or Somali or Afar states, respectively.

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 03 Jan 2023, 15:52

kibramlak wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 01:13
Let me leave aside the historical claims of the areas that you claim as Oromia land. Rather, let me point to your own words about "Majority rule" and ask you this:

What does oromuma have to do in Addis Ababa given the fact that oromos are less than 10% and Addis is supposed to have its autonomous administrative system, beside being the capital of the country ?



Sadacha Macca wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 19:41
Wedi aka tarik aka tog wajale aka judgement day 1234,

Yes Oromo are the sole rulers of Oromia. Hence why the lands named after us. Never said anything about harming minorities in Oromia or that they should be deprived of their rights. But, yes, majority rules, minority rights, is what it is.
The same way a minority would never rule Amara state. Or a minority (irob, afar, saho) would never rule Tigray or Somali or Afar states, respectively.


Less than ten percent? That's a lie and you know that. Not saying Oromo are the majority but less than ten percent is a lie dude. Not to mention it's located in the heart of Oromia/center, surrounded almost entirely by Oromia, gets a significant portion of its food and water from Oromia, etc.
Finfinne/Addis Ababa is the capital of Ethiopia and Oromia. We're not asking to deport or marginalize others, we're asking for afaan Oromo to be a working language alongside afaan Amara, among other things.

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Post by kibramlak » 07 Jan 2023, 13:20

I was saying this to tplf cadres when they claimed areas which never belonged to "the then tplf administration":

የቆጡን አወርድ ብላ የብብቷን ጣለች

Now, they are cut too short. They learned that the harshest way after they experienced the bitter defeat with a lose of over a million of their side. የኦሮሙማ ጥንቦች በጣም ከማፍላታቸው የተነሳ they are are claiming everything against nature. Karma is a BlTCH you know ?
Sadacha Macca wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 15:52
kibramlak wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 01:13
Let me leave aside the historical claims of the areas that you claim as Oromia land. Rather, let me point to your own words about "Majority rule" and ask you this:

What does oromuma have to do in Addis Ababa given the fact that oromos are less than 10% and Addis is supposed to have its autonomous administrative system, beside being the capital of the country ?



Sadacha Macca wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 19:41
Wedi aka tarik aka tog wajale aka judgement day 1234,

Yes Oromo are the sole rulers of Oromia. Hence why the lands named after us. Never said anything about harming minorities in Oromia or that they should be deprived of their rights. But, yes, majority rules, minority rights, is what it is.
The same way a minority would never rule Amara state. Or a minority (irob, afar, saho) would never rule Tigray or Somali or Afar states, respectively.


Less than ten percent? That's a lie and you know that. Not saying Oromo are the majority but less than ten percent is a lie dude. Not to mention it's located in the heart of Oromia/center, surrounded almost entirely by Oromia, gets a significant portion of its food and water from Oromia, etc.
Finfinne/Addis Ababa is the capital of Ethiopia and Oromia. We're not asking to deport or marginalize others, we're asking for afaan Oromo to be a working language alongside afaan Amara, among other things.

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Jan 2023, 20:54

kibramlak wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 13:20
I was saying this to tplf cadres when they claimed areas which never belonged to "the then tplf administration":

የቆጡን አወርድ ብላ የብብቷን ጣለች

Now, they are cut too short. They learned that the harshest way after they experienced the bitter defeat with a lose of over a million of their side. የኦሮሙማ ጥንቦች በጣም ከማፍላታቸው የተነሳ they are are claiming everything against nature. Karma is a BlTCH you know ?
Sadacha Macca wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 15:52
kibramlak wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 01:13
Let me leave aside the historical claims of the areas that you claim as Oromia land. Rather, let me point to your own words about "Majority rule" and ask you this:

What does oromuma have to do in Addis Ababa given the fact that oromos are less than 10% and Addis is supposed to have its autonomous administrative system, beside being the capital of the country ?



Sadacha Macca wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 19:41
Wedi aka tarik aka tog wajale aka judgement day 1234,

Yes Oromo are the sole rulers of Oromia. Hence why the lands named after us. Never said anything about harming minorities in Oromia or that they should be deprived of their rights. But, yes, majority rules, minority rights, is what it is.
The same way a minority would never rule Amara state. Or a minority (irob, afar, saho) would never rule Tigray or Somali or Afar states, respectively.


Less than ten percent? That's a lie and you know that. Not saying Oromo are the majority but less than ten percent is a lie dude. Not to mention it's located in the heart of Oromia/center, surrounded almost entirely by Oromia, gets a significant portion of its food and water from Oromia, etc.
Finfinne/Addis Ababa is the capital of Ethiopia and Oromia. We're not asking to deport or marginalize others, we're asking for afaan Oromo to be a working language alongside afaan Amara, among other things.
Instead of having an actual counterargument, all you have is an emotional rant. Interesting indeed, perhaps you want to admit the Oromo demands make sense, since the city is in the heart of their land, among other things.
It's funny, you want to eat the beef, chicken, dabo and other things from Oromo's and what they produce; but you despise their language, culture, and legitimate demands.
Making Afaan Oromo a language alongside Amharic, would make sense to any fair minded person, but to a bigot blinded by a deep-seated hatred and fear of the Oromo; it's ''Oromummaa boogeyman taking over.''
Ha! 8)

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Post by Temt » 07 Jan 2023, 21:07

I meant to ask this question ever since I read the word. Can somebody please tell me what "Oromuma" is or what it stands for?

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Jan 2023, 21:32

Temt wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 21:07
I meant to ask this question ever since I read the word. Can somebody please tell me what "Oromuma" is or what it stands for?
Temt,

Oromummaa to Oromo's means: the oromo identity, their culture, their language.
To those who hate us, such as some people on here; they use it in a derogatory way, to imply that we're seeking to dominate others via our culture, language, numerical superiority, etc.
Instead of saying ''the OPDO'' or ''Abiy'' seeks to become dictators and so on; they say the Oromo masses in general are doing that; which of course is false. Also, if you noticed, they accuse OPDO of working with the OLF, the same way Meles Zenawi & TPLF accused OPDO of being ''undercover OLF.''
Simply put, if you're an Oromo who doesn't kowtow to them, and doesn't accept their views, ways, etc; then you're a ''Shene.''
They want the Oromo PM to ''dismantle federalism'' and bring back the old ''great days'' of Ethiopia, which in reality, weren't ''great'' at all.

https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcon ... k_socopubs

Here's an article on the concept of Oromumma.

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Post by sun » 07 Jan 2023, 22:22

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 14:31
Wedi,

This is a proven fact. Lemma is the person who handed over those shinny and deadly weaponry in bulk to OLF when he was a Minister at the Defense Dept. Abiy doesn't have acceptance by the majority of Oromo political parties not because of his stand to support Orommuma but because of their misunderstanding of his tactical Ethiopianism. Now the "Ethiopianist" block seems to be increasingly revoking its support for the wobbling wish -washy man to finally hasten his demise. He seems to be looking to develop a new constituency in the TPLF camp, tho.. :mrgreen:

When Atse Yohhanes persecuted Muslims in Wello and tried to baptize the Wello Amhara muslims at Boru-meda, those Muslim Wolloyes left Wello en-masse and settled in Jimma and Haraghe, specifically in Gri-QoCher area. You may go to those places and, you will find a huge number of people who claim to have their ancestors came from Wello.

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