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Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 16:16
by Educator
Call me anti peace but it is disturbing if they quietly vacated Wolkait by the order of Satan Mamo Killo.
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 18:51
by Sadacha Macca
If it's true, then that means the army is going to be there; what's the big deal then? Is fano and the special forces of any state allowed to overrule the fed govt?
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 18:54
by Noble Amhara
Bunabayt gossip!!! Welkait is Geographically apart of Gondar\begmender!
Sadcan
Please say the same about your oromia. (Must be under fed govt) all drones are rightfully allowed to halt rebellions. Fed troops allowed in oromia. Shene is beneath the fed govt
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 18:58
by Educator
Well, according to the constitution the federal military should not come into any region unless invited by the regional government for emergency situations..otherwise the regional forces are responsib for the safety and security of the region. If fano or Amhara forces is asked to vacate Wolkait then it implies the land doesn't belong to Amharas.
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 18:51
If it's true, then that means the army is going to be there; what's the big deal then? Is fano and the special forces of any state allowed to overrule the fed govt?
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 19:02
by Sadacha Macca
Where is that clause? That's interesting, if true, then you have a good point, I admit that.
But, the question is: what if tplf invades that area, and the abiy regime doesn't send in the endf?
would fano, amhara liyu, and the amhara masses in general feel betrayed?
I am asking because, if the endf would obviously have to get involved.
and I do not trust tplf to uphold this treaty or surrender or whatever you wish to call it.
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 19:06
by Hawzen
Educator wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 16:16
Call me anti peace but it is disturbing if they quietly vacated Wolkait by the order of Satan Mamo Killo.
You wish agameboy
Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 19:18
by sarcasm
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 19:02
would fano, amhara liyu, and the amhara masses in general feel betrayed?
Nobody is betraying nobody on this issue. Can anyone really accuse Abiy of changing his mind when what he said from the first weeks of the war is: "ጦርነቱ ክልልን የማስፋት ዓይነት ኣድርጎ የመውሰድ ኣዝማምያዎች ኣሉ። የወሰን ኣካባቢዎች የማስመለስ፤ ኣድርጎ የማቅረብም ሙከራዎች ኣሉ። ይሄም በመሰረቱ ስሕተት ነው። የኣስተዳደር ወሰን ጥያቄ የሚመለስበት ስርዓት ኣለው። ይሄ በግልጽ መታወቅ ኣለበት ?
The Defense Minster said the following after after the start of the war: "
ጦርነቱ ክልልን የማስፋት ዓይነት ኣድርጎ የመውሰድ ኣዝማምያዎች ኣሉ። የወሰን ኣካባቢዎች የማስመለስ፤ ኣድርጎ የማቅረብም ሙከራዎች ኣሉ። ይሄም በመሰረቱ ስሕተት ነው። የኣስተዳደር ወሰን ጥያቄ የሚመለስበት ስርዓት ኣለው። ይሄ በግልጽ መታወቅ ኣለበት።" የኢፌዴሪ መከላከያ ሚኒስትር ዶር ቀነአ ያደታ
You cannot get clearer and more direct than that!
የራያ ሕዝብ ጥያቄ በሕገ መንግሥቱ መሰረት ታይቶ ውሳኔ የሚሰጥ መሆኑን የፌዴሬሽን ምክር ቤት አፈ ጉባኤ አቶ አገኘው ተሻገር ገልጸዋል፡፡
የራያ የወሰንና የማንነት ጥያቄ በሕገ መንግሥቱ መሠረት ይመለሳል₋የፌዴሬሽን ምክር ቤት
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የራያ የወሰንና የማንነት ጥያቄ በሕገ መንግሥቱ መሠረት እንደሚመለስ የፌዴሬሽን ምክር ቤት አስታወቀ፡፡
የራያ ሕዝብ ተወካዮች ለፌዴሬሽን ምክር ቤት የራያ ሕዝብ የማንነት እና የወሰን ጥያቄ ለሚመለከታቸው የመንግሥት አካላት ያቀረቡ ቢሆንም ለረጅም ጊዜ ምላሽ ሳያገኝ እንደቆየ ገልጸዋል፡፡
አያይዘውም የማንነት ጥያቄ በማንሳታቸው ሞትን ጨምሮ ሌሎች በደሎች በራያ ሕዝብ ላይ ሲፈፀም የቆየ እንደነበረና በመቶ ሺህዎች የሚቆጠሩ ራያዎች ከቤት ንብረታቸው ሲፈናቀሉ እና ንብረታቸውም ሲወድም እንደነበረ ተወካዮቹ በአካል ቀርበው ያስረዱ ሲሆን ጥያቄአችን ምላሽ ሊሰጠው ይገባል በማለት አቤቱታቸውን አቅርበዋል፡፡
የራያ ሕዝብ ጥያቄ በሕገ መንግሥቱ መሰረት ታይቶ ውሳኔ የሚሰጥ መሆኑን የፌዴሬሽን ምክር ቤት አፈ ጉባኤ አቶ አገኘው ተሻገር ገልጸዋል፡፡
እንደ ከዚህ በፊቱ የሕዝቦችን ጥያቄ በኃይል ለማፈን የሚደረግ አላስፈላጊ ጫና ከሕገ መንግስቱ የሚቃረን ስለሆነ ተቀባይነት የለውም ማለታቸውን ከፌዴሬሽን ምክር ቤት የተገኘው መረጃ ያመለክታል፡፡
የሕዝቦችን ጥያቄ ሕግን መሠረት በማድረግ ምላሽ በመስጠት ሕብረብሔራዊ አንድነታችንን ማጠናከር እንደሚያስፈልግ ጨምረው ገልጸዋል፡፡
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Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 22:08
by sun
Noble Amhara wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 18:54
Bunabayt gossip!!! Welkait is Geographically apart of Gondar\begmender!
Sadcan
Please say the same about your oromia. (Must be under fed govt) all drones are rightfully allowed to halt rebellions. Fed troops allowed in oromia. Shene is beneath the fed govt
What is the use of having a piece of land to which is attached permanent violence. You go and grab it using violence and they will come to take back using violence. Thus it continuous endlessly until the second coming of Christ.
Of course lots of emotions and attachments are involved but yet it is better to find lasting, balance and peaceful resolution to the issue so that every single mouthful of food may become tasty and pleasurable when the eating takes place under peaceful fully relaxed conditions and worry less individual and communal life. Why not agree to arrange referendum and let the people of that area (zone?) make their decisions democratically under peaceful free and fair condition? Right now it seems that only few mutually antagonistic noisy elites are tearing the people apart and causing pains.
Re: Wey gud, Fano and Amhara Liyu force vacated Wolkait quietly?
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 22:59
by Noble Amhara
sun wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 22:08
Noble Amhara wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 18:54
Bunabayt gossip!!! Welkait is Geographically apart of Gondar\begmender!
Sadcan
Please say the same about your oromia. (Must be under fed govt) all drones are rightfully allowed to halt rebellions. Fed troops allowed in oromia. Shene is beneath the fed govt
What is the use of having a piece of land to which is attached permanent violence. You go and grab it using violence and they will come to take back using violence. Thus it continuous endlessly until the second coming of Christ.
Of course lots of emotions and attachments are involved but yet it is better to find lasting, balance and peaceful resolution to the issue so that every single mouthful of food may become tasty and pleasurable when the eating takes place under peaceful fully relaxed conditions and worry less individual and communal life. Why not agree to arrange referendum and let the people of that area (zone?) make their decisions democratically under peaceful free and fair condition? Right now it seems that only few mutually antagonistic noisy elites are tearing the people apart and causing pains.
Sun/Fiyameta Banda
Welkayt | Kafta Humera | Tegede has had no war in the past 2 years with the exception of Waldeba Monastery being a raid spot for Dedebit Thugs BTW Woldia was attacked more in this war then Welkayt. so should we give woldia to Agame Dogs?
So re-think your analysis it goes against your entire alliance with Ethiopia. you can go kiss isssu and abiy bye bye and call them 0 0 0 after you sell welkait enda fara!