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Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
I guess you lost the point. Thanks to the peace agreement…… Food have started to come to Tigray that in itself is a big victory by any measurement.
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WTF! Abiy's PP signed deal with TAC. The loony drama that's unfolding can't be matched by the most creative fiction writers either.
It good be a gain for TPLF and its cadres. Who can foretell such drama!
Tadesse Werede, leader of TAC!
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Not really! The only growth area is mass graves. What good is that?
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some of their "gains"
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
The mercenary aid agents provided the Terrorist TPLF with Satellite Communication Radios, and Sophisticated Weapons inside the food converys and also military experts disguised as Aid Workers to assemble the weapons and Train the Terrorist TPLF in the last two years.
This time would not be any different.
All the hoopla "Peace Agreement" in Pretoria followed by in Nairobi is basically the US agenda to save the Terrorist TPLF from total annihilation; to give oxygen and time to the dying TPLF to remain a relevant party in the Ethiopian Politics until such time for Aby's power to wane down with time through many tactics of economic turmoil, politik turmoil and destabilization of peace while the Terrorist TPLF regain enough power, political capital to become a formidable party to ascend to power through some kind of coalition.
The US main agenda is to break down the "Eri-Ethio-Somali Peace and Cooperative Agreement" which was signed in 2018. The US has no desire to see a peaceful and cooperative HOA. Because if a Peaceful and cooperative HOA succeeded, other African Regions would follow sue.
And this is fundamentally against US hegemonic policy which it had already set command centers in the African Regions to maintain its hegemony.
Listen to the video below on the US hidden agenda.
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Isaias boy Isaias lost his strategic goals of destroying TPLF and desmabtling Tigray. https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=309184
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Hmm.. No one knew you started the war to fight Isaias and lose Badme..anything is possible but not this angle for sure.
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Axumezana wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:48Isaias boy Isaias lost his strategic goals of destroying TPLF and desmabtling Tigray. https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=309184
Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.
Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
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Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
The loses you are talking about is only in your mind alone just between your two ears. Otherwise tplf in particular and Tigryans in general have gained a lot. They have their region and their home in peace and Ethiopia together with other Ethiopians. Peace brings freedom, freedom brings wealth, wealth brings health, heath bring happiness and the freedom to freely roam the planet both from near and far. At the end of the day they may make peace and deals with Eritrea and wisely expand their comfort Zones in which case the word IMPOSSIBLE becomes nothing!Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
An honest answer may not be presented but all efforts to answers to the above question are welcomed.
As an honest response I would say that under the war and constant conflict situations lives, properties, families, friends, visions and missions of life and livings get destroyed. And it is inhuman to choose such alternatives and try to live in Hell!
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PP cadre confusing himself to be TPLF cadre. Not surprising at all!
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sun wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:12The loses you are talking about is only in your mind alone just between your two ears. Otherwise tplf in particular and Tigryans in general have gained a lot. They have their region and their home in peace and Ethiopia together with other Ethiopians. Peace brings freedom, freedom brings wealth, wealth brings health, heath bring happiness and the freedom to freely roam the planet both from near and far. At the end of the day they may make peace and deals with Eritrea and wisely expand their comfort Zones in which case the word IMPOSSIBLE becomes nothing!Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
An honest answer may not be presented but all efforts to answers to the above question are welcomed.
As an honest response I would say that under the war and constant conflict situations lives, properties, families, friends, visions and missions of life and livings get destroyed. And it is inhuman to choose such alternatives and try to live in Hell!![]()
Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Revelations, I couldn't see any clear substance in your argument below, so I will assume what you wanted to say in few points and address them as follow:
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:04Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Educator, do you know what happened to Sekuture after he spilled the beans in this televised program? He openly admitted what had happened and paid with his life.
Anywho, what did TPLF get that's new? Nada! Zilch! Abiy wanted to be on top. After two years of bloodshe,d suffering and distractions etc TPLF agreed to seat on top. But you are free to believe to have won the mega billion dollar lotto after the SA "peace deal" which in fact has many points that will lead to war.
Anywho, what did TPLF get that's new? Nada! Zilch! Abiy wanted to be on top. After two years of bloodshe,d suffering and distractions etc TPLF agreed to seat on top. But you are free to believe to have won the mega billion dollar lotto after the SA "peace deal" which in fact has many points that will lead to war.
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Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:00Revelations, I couldn't see any clear substance in your argument below, so I will assume what you wanted to say in few points and address them as follow:
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:04Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
An honest answer may not be presented but all efforts to answers to the above question are welcomed.