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Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:07
by temari
So TPLF has agreed to be disarmed! Wow!

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Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said both sides agreed to disarmament and cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:14
by Sam Ebalalehu
It is better to wait to digest the information. Both sides could not agree to disarmament. Only TPLF is expected to agree to disarm itself.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said both sides agreed to disarmament and cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:21
by Right
Is it a victory for you? Don’t celebrate. Wait for details.
This is mistake #4 in just under 4 years.
Nothing short of a total annihilation of the TPLF is a victory.

The TPLF is losing the war and hiding weapons in the mountains for a long fight. PP is giving them a break to re-group. A retro transfer payment in billions is heading their way. What a tragedy.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:28
by temari

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:31
by Abere
Well, this is a negotiation is fake. Where are the major stakeholders? It just prepares Amhara and Eritrea for more readiness to dislodge TPLF. TPLF's life is more in the hands of these stakeholders. Time will tell.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:34
by eritrea
He talks about both side this and both sides that but failed to talk about the main issue of agreement.
Nothing is new here. American taken initiative for peace is always not to bring peace but to give time and opportunities to their Chiwawas for more devastating war and destruction.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:37
by Sam Ebalalehu
I doubt anything will change. Anything to change the Ethiopian government should disarm TPLF immediately. That is the start. Without it nothing will change. The fighting will continue until TPLF is gone.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:40
by temari
TPLF is being disarmed as we speak. So the only thing that TPLF achieved through the negotiation is to save the lives of its top leaders by getting amnesty. If war continued, no TPLF leader would have survived. Now they have saved their lives after sacrificing so many lives.

Don't get distracted by the diplomatic word "both sides". It was clear who refused to be disarmed and who refused to agree to cessation of hostilities. So it is a no brainer that TPLF agreed to disarmament and the gov. to cessation of hostilities.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:42
by ZEMEN
temari wrote:
02 Nov 2022, 12:07
So TPLF has agreed to be disarmed! Wow!

https://www.facebook.com/VOAAmharic/vid ... 556255755/
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If this is true, then, it is the most darkest and embarrassing day for Ethiopia and Ethiopians. Absolutely darkest day.

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 12:55
by quindibu
temari wrote:
02 Nov 2022, 12:40
TPLF is being disarmed as we speak. So the only thing that TPLF achieved through the negotiation is to save the lives of its top leaders by getting amnesty. If war continued, no TPLF leader would have survived. Now they have saved their lives after sacrificing so many lives.

Don't get distracted by the diplomatic word "both sides". It was clear who refused to be disarmed and who refused to agree to cessation of hostilities. So it is a no brainer that TPLF agreed to disarmament and the gov. to cessation of hostilities.
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Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 13:00
by Za-Ilmaknun
ዋናዋና የሰላም ንግግሩ የስምምነት ነጥቦች፦

👉 ህውሃት TDF የሚለው ሰራዊት ፈርሶ የተሀድሶ ስልጠና ይወስዳል (ወደ ነበረበት የልዮ ኃይል ደረጃ ይወርዳል)

👉 የማንነት ጥያቄዎች የተነሳባቸው ቦታዎች (ወልቃይት እና ራያ) በህገ መንግስቱ መሠረት ምላሽ ይሰጣቸዋል። (በፌደሬሽን ምክር ቤት ውሳኔ በምርጫ ቦርድ አስፈፃሚነት ሪፈረንደም ይደረግባቸዋል)

👉 ህውሃት በትግራይ ያደረገው ምርጫ እና ውጤቱ በመፍረስ በምትኩ በፌደራል መንግስት የሚመራ አዲስ ምርጫ ይካሄዳል (በዚህ ምርጫም ህውሃት ከሽብርተኝነት ስያሜ ተሽሮ እና ምህረት ተደርጎለት እንደ አንድ ድርጅት የፓለቲካ ህልውና ኖሮት ይሳተፋል)

👉 ህውሃት ከውጭ ኃይሎች ጋር ምንም አይነት ግንኙነት አያደርግም (በምርጫ የሚመሰረተው መንግስት እንደ አንድ የክልል መንግስት ክልሉን ያስተዳድራል)

👉 በትግራይ ክልል የሚገኙ የፌደራል ተቋማት የፌደራል መንግስት ይቆጣጠራቸዋል በፌደራል መንግስት ይተዳደራሉ።

👉 በጦር ወንጀል ሆነ በሰብዓዊ መብት ጥሰት የሚጠየቅ አካል የለም። (ጉዳዮ Amnesty and pardon በምህረት እና ይቅርታ ይቋጫል)

Decoration of agreement ገና አልተፈረመም ረቂቅ ነው።

Re: Breaking! Obasanjo said [the TPLF] agreed to disarmament and [the gov.] to cessation of hostilities

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 13:11
by temari
These are the 12 points agreed. Specially point 4 explicitly talks about disarmament of TPLF fighters. It is practically terms of surrender!