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Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 14:02
by Axumezana
It is a proved truth through archeological findings and documented facts that the Tigrayans( living today in Ethiopia & Eritrea ) were the core component and the drivers of the great Axumite empire. My focus here is who were the pre-Axumites who gave birth to the Axumite civilization and who are the grand fathers of the present day Tigrayans. I tried my best to analyze various theories but I am convicted and convinced , Tigrayans grand fathers/ pre-Axumities originated from the Nubians in Sudan (Cush) from the Nile valley civilization which is believed to be older than the Egyptians civilization. The Nubians ( Cushites) historically fought against the Egyptians , Greeks, Persians , Romans, etc and they were able to keep their unique civilization and culture for a long time until it was lost recently to the Arabs with the expansion of Isalm. As of today the Nubians live both in Sudan and Southern Egypt and they proudly tell you that they are the owners of the Egyptian civilization. As the Nubians live on the plane lands of the Nile valley they often has to move south to the highlands of Ethiopia to defend and escape from powerful invaders. It looks at one point part of the core indomitable Nubians we're moved to the current Northern part of Ethiopia and
settled in the today's Tigray and Eritrea most probably because their land was occupied by powerful invaders which I believe gave to the Axumite civilization. Tigrayans in the highland s of Tigray and Eritrea we're able to effectively defend themselves against various invaders and have kept thier unique defensive war culture as we can see it until today. Recently the Tigrayans lured both the Abiy and Isaias armies toward the highlands of Tigray and history is once again repeating itself.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 14:11
by euroland
Braves indeed….Weyane fighters chased out from their own villages, towns and major cities in less than 2 month….now searching a hideout foxholes in a countryside in panic mode!
(Is the exact translation of Brave in Agamigna is “cowards”)
Axumezana wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 14:02
It is a proved truth through archeological findings and documented facts that the Tigrayans( living today in Ethiopia & Eritrea ) were the core component and the drivers of the great Axumite empire. My focus here is who were the pre-Axumites who gave birth to the Axumite civilization and who are the grand fathers of the present day Tigrayans. I tried my best to analyze various theories but I am convicted and convinced , Tigrayans grand fathers/ pre-Axumities originated from the Nubians in Sudan (Cush) from the Nile valley civilization which is believed to be older than the Egyptians civilization. The Nubians ( Cushites) historically fought against the Egyptians , Greeks, Persians , Romans, etc and they were able to keep their unique civilization and culture for a long time until it was lost recently to the Arabs with the expansion of Isalm. As of today the Nubians live both in Sudan and Southern Egypt and they proudly tell you that they are the owners of the Egyptian civilization. As the Nubians live on the plane lands of the Nile valley they often has to move south to the highlands of Ethiopia to defend and escape from powerful invaders. It looks at one point part of the core indomitable Nubians we're moved to the current Northern part of Ethiopia and
settled in the today's Tigray and Eritrea most probably because their land was occupied by powerful invaders which I believe gave to the Axumite civilization. Tigrayans in the highland s of Tigray and Eritrea we're able to effectively defend themselves against various invaders and have kept thier unique defensive war culture as we can see it until today. Recently the Tigrayans lured both the Abiy and Isaias armies toward the highlands of Tigray and history is once again repeating itself.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 14:43
by Abere
Poor Axumezana is looking under every rock to trace her identity. 
It is a historically established fact, Tigre came from one of the Yemeni caste group. The ancestors of Tigres are present-day Muhamasheen in Yemen. A simple DNA work can help you meet your ancestors. There are 3 million of them in Yemen, you here in Ethiopia are just 2 million. You are Muhamasheen diaspora in Ethiopia That is just the fact.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 15:09
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Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 15:31
by Axumezana
Euoland as you are blinded by hate, jealousy and revenge you know but are in denial of the truth. See you in Adi Halo soon!
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 15:41
by Axumezana
Isaias boy Abere , you are among the confused who pretend to be Amhara but banda in search of some one to carry you to art Arat Killo. That will never happen for those who are double minded like you! Their is Jewish and other Middle Eastern DNA mix with Tigrayans and most Ethiopians as people have been moving around for various reasons , but that does not change the fact that the dominant gins is African and based on my finding Nubian- Cushitic.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 15:47
by Hawdian
I'm an expert in this field and you have to ask the Ras for his undisputed anthropology work on the Horn including our short legged Tegaru.
The Ras pursues professionalism not biased and unrealistic theories.
My friend you have tried and I must congratulate you first and foremost. You just need to turn down the bravado and gloating. Not good for a man.
Your theories are much much better than those held by the Amhara especially fed to them by Coptic/Yemeni priests of being offspring of King Solomon and one night stand with Shiba.
This wild theory is laughable at our time and age especially we have access to so much technology and resources. A simple DNA does wonders.
And it's a wild theory that would fool religiously sentimental faithfuls.
Ancient Kush was Nilotic. They were 6'6 ft and avg Tegaru is just above 5 ft plus Afro-Asiatic family.
So forget that theory.
Tegaru are Agew.
The language of the Tegaru and Somali are not that much off as well.
Watch...
Amhara and Oromo are the same thing.
Tegaru and early Agew stocks are the same.
One love.
The Ras
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 15:52
by euroland
Challenge me on facts then.
Tell me who is in controll of ALL your major towns and cities, such as Shiraro, Shire, Seleklak, Axum, Adwa, Zalambessa, Rama, Adi Grat, Wukro, Hawzen, Mehoni, Maichew, Korem, Alamata, Adiabo, Shimelba, Kue’ha and 100s more? Except Mekele which is completely surrounded in all 4 corners, your beloved TPLF has lost 95% of your Chigar Kilil as this time. Is this winning? Was it worth provoking the angry Shaebia in Nov 2020? Was it worth fighting the Ethiopian government?
Axumezana wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 15:31
Euoland as you are blinded by hate, jealousy and revenge you know but are in denial of the truth. See you in Adi Halo soon!
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 16:38
by Abere
There is 99.9% DNA match between Tigres in Ethiopia and Yemen's Muhamasheen minority. So, do not waste your time.
By the way, are you heading to South Africa to drink coffee/ Vodka with Getachew? He is probably seeking asylum in Yemen, I do not know his DNA lab work will confirm his origin - I think he is Tigre/Muhamasheen/ by adoption or naturalization not by blood.
Axumezana wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 15:41
Isaias boy Abere , you are among the confused who pretend to be Amhara but banda in search of some one to carry you to art Arat Killo. That will never happen for those who are double minded like you! Their is Jewish and other Middle Eastern DNA mix with Tigrayans and most Ethiopians as people have been moving around for various reasons , but that does not change the fact that the dominant gins is African and based on my finding Nubian- Cushitic.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 16:59
by Axumezana
Isaias boy Abere , it looks lying has become your habit similar to to your boss Isaias!
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 17:05
by Axumezana
Hawdian the only way to disprove my theory is to map DNA results for Nubians and Tigrayans. I have visited North Sudan and Egypt and I have seen the physical similarities and even the "11" mark is on the eyebrow of the North Sudan people ( exactly similar location to the Tigrayans)
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 18:01
by Hawdian
Axumezana wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 17:05
Hawdian the only way to disprove my theory is to map DNA results for Nubians and Tigrayans. I have visited North Sudan and Egypt and I have seen the physical similarities and even the "11" mark is on the eyebrow of the North Sudan people ( exactly similar location to the Tigrayans)
My friend I think you are confusing Beja/Hadendowa with the Nilotic Nubians.
It's true Meroe was Christianized by the Axumite and later they sign treaty with the Muslims (to pay Diyya for protection) before most of them converted.
Nubians have more physical similarities with the Nara/Kunama than a Tegaru
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 18:17
by Zack
Tigrayans are just an admixture with ancient Yemenis and agews mostly Sabeans in the land of Tigray today their prototype were of Agew stock same as the agew of midribahri now called bilen.
Tigrayans are descendants of these Sabeans who mixed with local kushites mostly Agew saho and afar. According to some of our short legged sereyens they to are of sabean origin the only difference is that they mixed with beja as they claim belew kelew where is our good friend hardliner when u need him
Dr Zackovich
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 18:29
by Sadacha Macca
Tigrayan's may be brave, but they ain't the smartest {they let their own leaders lead them to doom, while not protesting it or anything, we Oromo's and others better take notes for sure)}, and they are not the bravest or the best fighters/conquerors/warlike, even within Ethiopia. All one has to do is look at who conquered and settled on the most lands, to determine that. Oromo's, Somali's, Amara's are the top 3, along with Afar's, of course.
Anyone fighting on their own turf, amongst their own people against others, is also going to naturally have some advantages.
Not to mention that TPLF had a lot of armaments, stolen from Ethiopia, stashed in their mountains and etc, in Tigray.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 18:33
by Zack
Tigrayans ruled all of south Arabia and much of north Ethiopia for a long time at least a thousand years with the rise of Islam their empire declined they still have enough territory. Not as much as Somali gala or Amhara but decent amount of land. Remember they are not that large but they have quality they are warrior like . And if we add their cousins in Eritrea they have a large territory.
Dr Zackovich
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 19:29
by Axumezana
Hawdian!
My theory is based on history, archeological evidences, religion, physical observations, culture & personal instinctive convictions etc. If you are an expert on this area I wait for you to come up with scientific DNA based categorization for the people of the Horn Africa with the special focus for Tigrayans and the Northern Sudan people.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 20:43
by Hawdian
Axumezana wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 19:29
Hawdian!
My theory is based on history, archeological evidences, religion, physical observations, culture & personal instinctive convictions etc. If you are an expert on this area I wait for you to come up with scientific DNA based categorization for the people of the Horn Africa with the special focus for Tigrayans and the Northern Sudan people.
Share the info you have including potential haplo-group, and genome-wide data. We need facts and publications not assumptions.
Somalis are predominantly E1b1b (80%), E-M35, E-V68, E-M78, E-V12, E-V32.
The closest people to Somalis genetically are north African Amazigh such as the Reef Marocs (65% E1B1B)
44% of Nubians carry Haplogroup J, 23% Haplogroup E1B1B, 10% R1B, 10% F, 8% B.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 21:15
by Deqi-Arawit
Hawdian wrote: ↑29 Oct 2022, 20:43
Axumezana wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 19:29
Hawdian!
My theory is based on history, archeological evidences, religion, physical observations, culture & personal instinctive convictions etc. If you are an expert on this area I wait for you to come up with scientific DNA based categorization for the people of the Horn Africa with the special focus for Tigrayans and the Northern Sudan people.
Share the info you have including potential haplo-group, and genome-wide data. We need facts and publications not assumptions.
Somalis are predominantly E1b1b (80%), E-M35, E-V68, E-M78, E-V12, E-V32.
The closest people to Somalis genetically are north African Amazigh such as the Reef Marocs (65% E1B1B)
44% of Nubians carry Haplogroup J, 23% Haplogroup E1B1B, 10% R1B, 10% F, 8% B.
Wuriya
Why are you trying to get in touch with the North African berber when you have a fairytale story which claims that the forefathers of somalis are arabs from Yemen?
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 21:23
by Hawdian
Deqi,
These things are beyond your comprehension. Play with the Dianna cream son.
Re: Who are the ancestors of Tigrayans , how do they develop the bravery , wining spirit and defensive war culture?
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 21:31
by tarik
Cursed land tigray people are not from yemen, if they were they would be speaking arabic or at least yemeni arabic? Cursed-land-tigray people are from
Ghana specifically a land or tribe called
ADOWA.
ملعون تيغراي الناس ليسوا من اليمن ، لو كانوا سيتحدثون العربية أو على الأقل اليمنية العربية؟ شعب تيغراي الملعون من غانا على وجه التحديد أرض أو قبيلة تسمى ADOWA.
Cursed-land-tigray ppl r from west africa , Ghana, adowa. !!! WEEY GUUD !!!:lol:
