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[Cartmann]

After the TPLF attacked the Ethiopian northern command and confiscated substantial heavy weapons, Eritrea’s involvement was justified as TPLF has always been a threat to Eritrea and heavily armed even more so. As expected, the conflict has started once again. From the outset it is obvious our objectives do not match. Whereas Eritrea’s interest is the complete annihilation of the TPLF, the Ethiopian government has declared that its objective is ‘to bring back the TPLF to the negotiating table’. It is just mind boggling that their objective is to bring the renegades and terrorists back to the negotiating table. Thus, there is no common ground to work with. Since any progress on the battlefield is not guaranteed to lead to the desirable outcome thanks to the show-pony prime mister’s inexplicable decisions, it is none of our business to get involved now. Let them duel it out themselves. Afterall, the coward PM ordered the withdrawal of the whole Ethiopian army from Tigray without informing the Eritrean army who was still operating in Tigray chasing after the Malelits. Had it not been for the competence of the Eritrean army, the intention of the prime minister was to toast us like he did to the Amharas. Earlier Eritrea’s involvement was not appreciated by many so-called Ethiopian medias and elites as they started to propagate the TPLF narrative of atrocities. Even the Ethiopian government appointed so-called Ethiopian Human Rights Commission started pointing fingers at Eritrea to comply with their donors. Eritrea’s policy should be now non-involvement as the war is now between Ethiopia led by spineless PM and the dumbo TPLF who don't care one iota about Tigryan’s lives.
Eritrea’s interest should only be to prevent the TPLF from controlling the Wolkayt-Humera area and maintain our border with Amhara region. Regarding this the Amhara’s are much more trustworthy allies than the coward prime minister. For the rest, as far as I am concerned good luck with your Russian roulette war.

[Tigray People]

Cartman

Save your fairytale the coward Eriteans Army and Eriteans government are too coward to reinvade Tigray after the Heroic Tigray People killed more than 60 thousands dirty face Eritrea soldiers chasing them to Amhara region, Afar,all the way to the outskirt of Addis Ababa last year.

The entire Heroic Tigray People vow to Storm the evil Eritrea that you will pay the price for the crimes you committed on innocent defenseless Tigray People, looting that you will be destroyed and forced to pay billions of dollars war reparations for the Tigray People.

The Heroic Tigray People are not done with the evil Eritrea yet.

The worst yet to come for the evil Eritrea very soon by the Heroic Tigray People Army.Mark Our Words.

Below Video Shows last year the Heroic Tigray People that killed hundreds of thousands invaders Eriteans Army, Amhara Army, Galla Army, Somalian, Afar army etc etc etc.

The worst yet to come for the evil Eritrea that will be broken into pieces by 8 ethnics, religion, Clans far worst than Somalian.

Awet Nehafash Tigray People!!

[Jaegol]

Co-signed cartman
Just watch from far
Abiy had the support of shabia and fanos last time and Abiy obeyed the ferenjis and broke the alliance… all by himself now.
Deep inside me though (conflicted ‍♂️) still believe banda telalaki tplf must die and hopefully Abiy learns that the ferenjis will never be on his side and go for the total elimination of tplf and free the Tigray people from the occupying monster tplf, and Eritrea should lend him a hand for peace of the horn…

[eden]

Eritrea’s interest is the complete annihilation of the TPLF

Eritrea’s interest is to leave TPLF to Tigrians. Let them keep it or replace it. Eritrea’s interest is to look inward long and hard, then decide to keep or replace PFDJ. Simple as that.

TPLF is unacceptable to you

Tell me Cartman, which Tigrian politicians are acceptable to you to lead Tigrians assuming TPLF vanishes into thin air? I suspect you have no answer but surprise me

[Cartmann]

Eritrea’s interest is the complete annihilation of the TPLF

Eritrea’s interest is to leave TPLF to Tigrians. Let them keep it or replace it. Eritrea’s interest is to look inward long and hard, then decide to keep or replace PFDJ. Simple as that.

TPLF is unacceptable to you

Tell me Cartman, which Tigrian politicians are acceptable to you to lead Tigrians assuming TPLF vanishes into thin air? I suspect you have no answer but surprise me

You can't have cake and eat it too. What you said would have been true had the TPLF not outstretch itself to bite everyone around it. For decades the TPLF has been acting against the Eritrean state. You are not going to tell me that an entity that do not shy away from firing rockets to our capital is Tigray's matter. The same against Ethiopians. You are not going to tell them Ethiopians either that the TPLF is Tigray’s matter after looting the country for decades and after attacking their army recently. You don’t want me to list everything here as I assume you know all facts by heart. If the Tigray people put leash on their mad dog, it wouldn’t be our concern and they can keep it. Otherwise, somebody got to euthanize it.

PS. It is upto the Tigray people, but anyone is acceptable to me as far as they mind their business so that we can mind ours and we all get peace. Does that surprise you?

[Sabur]

Cartmann:

What you have just said is all True. Thank you !

Who would have thought PM Abiy would desert Eritrea openly naked in the field after he officially Thanked the Eritrean Gov't, the Eritrean Army and the Eritrean people in the Parliament by saying,

"During Dark Times at night even your own shadow deserts you, but the Eritrean Gov't, The Eritrean Army and the Eritrean People did not desert Ethiopia during its darkest times.

Meaning "The Eritrean Army put their lives and saved Ethiopia by destroying the Terrorist TPLF".

Again no one with the right mind would predict that "PM Aby's desire to negotiate with the TPLF group that he designated them Terrorist".

Let's remain hopeful and send a clear message that Eritrea's Trust is ONLY open for those who deserve.

After the TPLF attacked the Ethiopian northern command and confiscated substantial heavy weapons, Eritrea’s involvement was justified as TPLF has always been a threat to Eritrea and heavily armed even more so. As expected, the conflict has started once again. From the outset it is obvious our objectives do not match. Whereas Eritrea’s interest is the complete annihilation of the TPLF, the Ethiopian government has declared that its objective is ‘to bring back the TPLF to the negotiating table’. It is just mind boggling that their objective is to bring the renegades and terrorists back to the negotiating table. Thus, there is no common ground to work with. Since any progress on the battlefield is not guaranteed to lead to the desirable outcome thanks to the show-pony prime mister’s inexplicable decisions, it is none of our business to get involved now. Let them duel it out themselves. Afterall, the coward PM ordered the withdrawal of the whole Ethiopian army from Tigray without informing the Eritrean army who was still operating in Tigray chasing after the Malelits. Had it not been for the competence of the Eritrean army, the intention of the prime minister was to toast us like he did to the Amharas. Earlier Eritrea’s involvement was not appreciated by many so-called Ethiopian medias and elites as they started to propagate the TPLF narrative of atrocities. Even the Ethiopian government appointed so-called Ethiopian Human Rights Commission started pointing fingers at Eritrea to comply with their donors. Eritrea’s policy should be now non-involvement as the war is now between Ethiopia led by spineless PM and the dumbo TPLF who don't care one iota about Tigryan’s lives.
Eritrea’s interest should only be to prevent the TPLF from controlling the Wolkayt-Humera area and maintain our border with Amhara region. Regarding this the Amhara’s are much more trustworthy allies than the coward prime minister. For the rest, as far as I am concerned good luck with your Russian roulette war.

[Noble Amhara]

Ditto! Agames wont set 1 foot in welkayt

[Cartmann]

My brother Sabur it is always nice to see you around.
As you said leaving Eritrean Army in the open was the highest treachery one could ever face with. After that I do not see there is any way to fix the alliance with the spineless PM. Fortunately, we are out of the quagmire created by the useless PM and we are in much more better position than anytime before. If any threat comes our way, it will be a defensive war which is our speciality. If they want to negotiate and keep the TPLF let them dance with it and we only deal with it if it ever threaten Eritrea. In my opinion that should be our policy and I do not support Eritrea's involvement now.
Trust me the TPLF will yet cause havoc in Ethiopia, and all Ethiopians will one day appreciate the degree of Eritrea's contribution in the previous conflict.

Cartmann:

What you have just said is all True. Thank you !

Who would have thought PM Abiy would desert Eritrea openly naked in the field after he officially Thanked the Eritrean Gov't, the Eritrean Army and the Eritrean people in the Parliament by saying,

"During Dark Times at night even your own shadow deserts you, but the Eritrean Gov't, The Eritrean Army and the Eritrean People did not desert Ethiopia during its darkest times.

Meaning "The Eritrean Army put their lives and saved Ethiopia by destroying the Terrorist TPLF".

Again no one with the right mind would predict that "PM Aby's desire to negotiate with the TPLF group that he designated them Terrorist".

Let's remain hopeful and send a clear message that Eritrea's Trust is ONLY open for those who deserve.

[eden]

Cartman,

If Eritrea decides TPLF is existential threat or national security risk, we have to consider if TPLF has the backing of its people or not. If it doesn’t, then problem solved because our interest and the Tigrian interest doesn’t conflict. Removing the TPLF should be walk in the park. Game over indeed.

But but but

The question arises: what if TPLF has the backing of its people? Mind you, TPLF is either delivering or brainwashing to garner support of its people. Or maybe Eritrea is doing propaganda that Tigrians perceive as too threatening and hostile to them, forcing people cling to TPLF. In any case, people believe in sticking their neck out to save TPLF. Then what? Then Eritrea is not fighting TPLF but Tigrians as people. Would you have us go to war knowing full well the war is people against people?

By the way, Abiy is not the first to betray Eritrea. Meles did as well. We were allies with Meles against Mengistu. Then Meles dumped us. We were allies with Abiy against Meles. Then Abiy dumped us. Now you say we are allies with Amara leader against Abiy - if you see the pattern - to be betrayed again.

Question arises again: why do we get betrayed? Is there a fundamental reason? Is it us? Is it our policy of interference in others affairs that’s backfiring in our face? Are our leaders not suited for the Time we live in? The question for us Eritreans is not the TPLF. That is a question for Tigrians. TPLF doesn’t set our policy, HGDEF Mendef does. The solution to Eritrea problem is within Eritrea, not Tigray, not Ethiopia. We are our own enemies. We jail, we torture and we kill our own people.

You cut and paste the entire Ethiopia from the Horn to somewhere in Asia, none of our fundamental problems are solved.

[simbe11]

Eden,
Two things here.
1- Eritrea shouldn't have aligned interests with Tigrayans to wanting eliminate TPLF. This, the need to dismantle TPLF, has been established a long time ago and the urgency is further demonstrated by the missiles fired directly to Asmara .
TPLF need to be taken of off the field for us to live. We will never have peaceful lives while TPLF and its goons are allowed to roam on the face of the earth.
2- The only way getting out of this vicious circle is thinking collectively. We are the same people. If you think you are different claiming Eritrean ID, you are wrong. If we agree on the notion of two different countries for the sake of argument, you shouldn't see and try to divide Ethiopians by their clan/tribe. Accept one country and work with it.

[Fiyameta]

The Eritrean Defense Forces entered Tigray only after the Tigray terrorist group fired rockets into populated areas of Eritrea. The United Nations Charter gives every nation the right to self defense, therefore when our cities were bombed it was a matter of time before our Eritrean Defense Forces responded in kind by going after the terrorists and chasing them to the gates of hell.

Perhaps, the treacherous Neo-colonial powers that initially, and conveniently, released statements condemning TPLF's rocket attacks on Eritrea, ordered the hit in an effort to get Eritrea involved in the war, thus internationalizing the conflict. But for Eritrea, it was not involvement, it was self defense. There are 900,000 ways Eritrea can properly defend itself without getting involved.

[quindibu]

Eritrea’s interest is the complete annihilation of the TPLF

Eritrea’s interest is to leave TPLF to Tigrians. Let them keep it or replace it. Eritrea’s interest is to look inward long and hard, then decide to keep or replace PFDJ. Simple as that.

TPLF is unacceptable to you

Tell me Cartman, which Tigrian politicians are acceptable to you to lead Tigrians assuming TPLF vanishes into thin air? I suspect you have no answer but surprise me

Any Tigrian politician whose train of thought wouldn't be እጠቡኝ : ግን አታርጥቡኝ (ሕጸቡኒ ግና ኣይተጠልቅዩኒ) will be acceptable to us! So if you don't wish to get wet, then........don't bother us to 'clean you up' (yes pun intended). What a dunce!



(SBU) Summary. Ethiopian Foreign Minister Seyoum Mesfin on May 22 called in the UNSC P-5 Ambassadors to urge them to follow-up on the InterGovernmental Authority on Development's (IGAD) May 20 call for Security Council sanctions against Eritrea....... Canada, he said, through its mining concessions, would soon be providing Eritrea with hundreds of millions of dollars, and he commented that "if you think Eritrea is a problem now with no economy, wait until it is flush with cash."

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09AD ... 237_a.html

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[eden]

qindib,

I was hoping for names of Tigrian leaders satisfying our interest. Name Tigrian leaders that fall outside of ሕጸቡኒ ግና ኣይተጠልቅዩኒ

What’s the point of removing TPLF if there’s no replacement that suits us?

[Cartmann]

All your questions are designed to absolve the TPLF and redirect it to PFDJ. Anyway, let’s not beat around the bush. I know the TPLF still has substantial support in Tigray, and I am not interested to hypothesize why. As a matter of fact, it is irrelevant to me, as I said it is up them. Be it so, the Tigray people should live with all the consequences and calamities that entail supporting the TPLF. They should not expect any sympathy from all those wronged by the TPLF. That is natural law.

Regarding existential threat, it is not a political decision. Eritrea does not and cannot decide whether TPLF is existential threat. It is the TPLF’s act that decides it. The evidence is conclusive that non ever posed more tangible threat to Eritrea than the TPLF. At the helm of the Ethiopian throne, it used all Ethiopia’s material and human resource against the state of Eritrea. Thus, there has never been an option than head-on collision. Tigrayans know this fact and coupled with that of Ethiopians resentment against the TPLF, the Tigrayans support means they have chosen the impracticable and have decided to go down the sink with it.

Remember, Eritrea has only one option, to confront its existential threat. Tigrayans have two options, TPLF or peace. That is no brainer.

If Tigrayans enjoy ከበባን ዕጽዋን and live as personae non gratae, who am I to ask. Enjoy it!!

Cartman,

If Eritrea decides TPLF is existential threat or national security risk, we have to consider if TPLF has the backing of its people or not. If it doesn’t, then problem solved because our interest and the Tigrian interest doesn’t conflict. Removing the TPLF should be walk in the park. Game over indeed.

But but but

The question arises: what if TPLF has the backing of its people? Mind you, TPLF is either delivering or brainwashing to garner support of its people. Or maybe Eritrea is doing propaganda that Tigrians perceive as too threatening and hostile to them, forcing people cling to TPLF. In any case, people believe in sticking their neck out to save TPLF. Then what? Then Eritrea is not fighting TPLF but Tigrians as people. Would you have us go to war knowing full well the war is people against people?

By the way, Abiy is not the first to betray Eritrea. Meles did as well. We were allies with Meles against Mengistu. Then Meles dumped us. We were allies with Abiy against Meles. Then Abiy dumped us. Now you say we are allies with Amara leader against Abiy - if you see the pattern - to be betrayed again.

Question arises again: why do we get betrayed? Is there a fundamental reason? Is it us? Is it our policy of interference in others affairs that’s backfiring in our face? Are our leaders not suited for the Time we live in? The question for us Eritreans is not the TPLF. That is a question for Tigrians. TPLF doesn’t set our policy, HGDEF Mendef does. The solution to Eritrea problem is within Eritrea, not Tigray, not Ethiopia. We are our own enemies. We jail, we torture and we kill our own people.

You cut and paste the entire Ethiopia from the Horn to somewhere in Asia, none of our fundamental problems are solved.

[Hawzen]

.....Eritrea’s interest should only be to prevent the TPLF from controlling the Wolkayt-Humera area and maintain our border with Amhara region.....

100% Co-signed brother Cartmann!!!

At this point, ".....Eritrea’s interest should only be to prevent the TPLF from controlling the Wolkayt-Humera area and maintain our border with Amhara region....." !!!

Eritrea will get involved along with the Federal government if any only if a total annihilation of TPLF is our common goal... Then Eritrea can work with the federal government....

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

[eden]

Tigray people should live with all the consequences and calamities that entail supporting the TPLF. They should not expect any sympathy from all those wronged by the TPLF. That is natural law.

The flip side:

The Eritrea people should live with all the consequences and calamities that entail supporting the PFDJ. They should not expect any sympathy from all those wronged by the PFDJ. That is natural law.

I’m just quoting what Birgade Nihamedu , an organic Eritrean resistance, would say

By now, you probably understand the stupidity of your thought process. If not, God help you

[Cartmann]

Tigray people should live with all the consequences and calamities that entail supporting the TPLF. They should not expect any sympathy from all those wronged by the TPLF. That is natural law.

The flip side:

The Eritrea people should live with all the consequences and calamities that entail supporting the PFDJ. They should not expect any sympathy from all those wronged by the PFDJ. That is natural law.

I’m just quoting what Birgade Nihamedu , an organic Eritrean resistance, would say

By now, you probably understand the stupidity of your thought process. If not, God help you

flip, mince or dice it as you like and truth always remain the same. Hard as it may be learning to swallow truth will do you good.

[sun]

After the TPLF attacked the Ethiopian northern command and confiscated substantial heavy weapons, Eritrea’s involvement was justified as TPLF has always been a threat to Eritrea and heavily armed even more so. As expected, the conflict has started once again. From the outset it is obvious our objectives do not match. Whereas Eritrea’s interest is the complete annihilation of the TPLF, the Ethiopian government has declared that its objective is ‘to bring back the TPLF to the negotiating table’. It is just mind boggling that their objective is to bring the renegades and terrorists back to the negotiating table. Thus, there is no common ground to work with. Since any progress on the battlefield is not guaranteed to lead to the desirable outcome thanks to the show-pony prime mister’s inexplicable decisions, it is none of our business to get involved now. Let them duel it out themselves. Afterall, the coward PM ordered the withdrawal of the whole Ethiopian army from Tigray without informing the Eritrean army who was still operating in Tigray chasing after the Malelits. Had it not been for the competence of the Eritrean army, the intention of the prime minister was to toast us like he did to the Amharas. Earlier Eritrea’s involvement was not appreciated by many so-called Ethiopian medias and elites as they started to propagate the TPLF narrative of atrocities. Even the Ethiopian government appointed so-called Ethiopian Human Rights Commission started pointing fingers at Eritrea to comply with their donors. Eritrea’s policy should be now non-involvement as the war is now between Ethiopia led by spineless PM and the dumbo TPLF who don't care one iota about Tigryan’s lives.
Eritrea’s interest should only be to prevent the TPLF from controlling the Wolkayt-Humera area and maintain our border with Amhara region.

Regarding this the Amhara’s are much more trustworthy allies than the coward prime minister. For the rest, as far as I am concerned good luck with your Russian roulette war.

That is in funny dirty day dreams and hallucinated funniest nightmares. I don't even believe that you are an Eritrean when I see that you are bowing down so low and l!cking the greasy extremist amhara back holes as if the Eritreans were not fighting for decades against the Amharas and as if Amhara kings did not cut hands and limbs from several Eritreans. What have the good PM did to you? Did he engage and lead several brutal wars against Eritrea when hundreds were killed and wounded or did he cut hands and limbs from innocent Eritreans, or took their land on the border area? NEVER!

On the contrary the PM unilaterally proposed and made peace with Eritrea after decades confrontational enemy status and helped the country come out of the long standing backbreaking embargo, thereby helping the country to join the family of nations no question asked. And you come here to brag about helping the norther command when the tplf thugs attacked them without any provocation. What is wrong with helping the northern command at the time because they were brutally attacked and robbed by the same tplf who attacker Eritrea with deadly missile attacks, to say the least. In this sense genuine Eritreans can present their grievances to the PM but should never be in a harry to become vulgar like the vagabond Amhara extremists and cut relations for good.

[lil kogne]

speaking of existential threat. Eden, where do you draw the line ? Your hatred of PFDJ does not warrant of our reversal of independence. All the proof has been mentioned that the TPLF is a threat to Eritrean freedom plus Eritrea has every right to involve in any battles be it covert or all out war against the TPLF. This entity has refused to vacate the territory that has ruled Eritrean by the very organization that the TPLF chose to mediate the dispute even though the current and legal Ethiopian government accepted and promised to abide by the ruling. This Entity also stated openly that their full support of eritrean independence on a colonialism base was wrong and wanted to reverse it as well as the whole country's accepted territory after independence. this terrorist organization also had vowed not to abide by the EEBC decision and had it's citizens demonstrate " EROBE is bigger than ERITREA" . This Organization had shopped left and right all over the world for weapons mainly to destroy Eritrea. What leadership in the world especially from poor third world country buys from it's meager resources weapons and stores it for evil purposes instead buying food, fuel , medicine etc and store it for future ? I could go on and on with this thought. But, the main point is, Yes indeed PFDJ or not TPLF is existential threat to Eritrea , Ethiopia, the horn of Africa and mainly to the Tigray people.

[lil kogne]

speaking of existential threat. Eden, where do you draw the line ? Your hatred of PFDJ does not warrant reversal of Our independence. All the proof has been mentioned that the TPLF is a threat to Eritrean freedom plus Eritrea has every right to involve in any battles be it covert or all out war against the TPLF. This entity has refused to vacate the territory that has ruled Eritrean by the very organization that the TPLF chose to mediate the dispute even though the current and legal Ethiopian government accepted and promised to abide by the ruling. This Entity also stated openly that their full support of eritrean independence on a colonialism base was wrong and wanted to reverse it as well as the whole country's accepted territory after independence. this terrorist organization also had vowed not to abide by the EEBC decision and had it's citizens demonstrate " EROBE is bigger than ERITREA" . This Organization had shopped left and right all over the world for weapons mainly to destroy Eritrea. What leadership in the world especially from poor third world country buys from it's meager resources weapons and stores it for evil purposes instead buying food, fuel , medicine etc and store it for future ? I could go on and on with this thought. But, the main point is, Yes indeed PFDJ or not TPLF is existential threat to Eritrea , Ethiopia, the horn of Africa and mainly to the Tigray people.