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MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 06:04
by temari
It seems there will be no direct talks. There is literary nothing to negotiate between the federal government and TPLF.
The government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place with only bad options to choose from:
1. Live under the current siege and risk a revolt against TPLF leaders from the people of Tigray or from some of the Awrajas. Some military members may also get tempted to plan a coup. A social and political instability in Tigray is inevitable.
2. Go to war and risk not only loosing more land such as Almata & co. but also risk that some TPLF leaders may end up like Seyoum Mesfin and Abbay Tsehaye.
3. Abide by the government rules and start negotiation without any preconditions under the AU and hope things may improve in the process. The federal government may try to prolong the process though in which case we are back to option 1.
Until things get sorted out, the ordinary people of Tigray will be the ones that will suffer the most.
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 06:08
by temari
TPLF is indeed stuck between a rock and a hard place!
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 06:16
by Noble Amhara
We know weyane will launch war against afar and Wollo do some massacre on innocent and then be halted by the gonderes same thing as last year. This time I hope they lose Semien Wagshum Agaw Walfa Wereda, Alemata Woreda, Telemt Tekeze Wenz Dinber and also Asebo which shall be Semien Wollo buffer zone this shall also be Ethiopias buffer zone as well to keep TPLF in its Awraja homeland
Also to prepare for another war Arrogant PP must train 50,000 Wolloyes and 50.000 Afaris into ENDF and LIYUHAYL so that the battles will be fair and TPLF human wave will be pushed back
We dont even need to go to mekele-Adwa-Aksum-shire-hintalo-Adigrat anymore that is outdated method. Just the Welkayt Tekeze Asmelash Committee method alone saved Ethiopia big time
Also tigray should hand over General Gebresodom Tensae to restore services and bank that seems like good deal for peace
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 06:41
by sarcasm
temari wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 06:04
It seems there will be no direct talks. There is literary nothing to negotiate between the federal government and TPLF.
The government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place with only bad options to choose from:
1. Live under the current siege and risk a revolt against TPLF leaders from the people of Tigray or from some of the Awrajas. Some military members may also get tempted to plan a coup. A social and political instability in Tigray is inevitable.
2. Go to war and risk not only loosing more land such as Almata & co. but also risk that some TPLF leaders may end up like Seyoum Mesfin and Abbay Tsehaye.
3. Abide by the government rules and start negotiation without any preconditions under the AU and hope things may improve in the process. The federal government may try to prolong the process though in which case we are back to option 1.
Until things get sorted out, the ordinary people of Tigray will be the ones that will suffer the most.
The talks will be happening, my friend. If the government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place
with only bad options to choose from, then the government is not committed to peaceful resolution on win-win principles and will be responsible for
forcing a second round of war to happen. Nevertheless, it amazes me you reached such conclusion from the press statement. I will post the link to help you with your analysis.
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 12:01
by Za-Ilmaknun
temari wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 06:04
It seems there will be no direct talks. There is literary nothing to negotiate between the federal government and TPLF.
The government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place with only bad options to choose from:
1. Live under the current siege and risk a revolt against TPLF leaders from the people of Tigray or from some of the Awrajas. Some military members may also get tempted to plan a coup. A social and political instability in Tigray is inevitable.
2. Go to war and risk not only loosing more land such as Almata & co. but also risk that some TPLF leaders may end up like Seyoum Mesfin and Abbay Tsehaye.
3. Abide by the government rules and start negotiation without any preconditions under the AU and hope things may improve in the process. The federal government may try to prolong the process though in which case we are back to option 1.
Until things get sorted out, the ordinary people of Tigray will be the ones that will suffer the most.
Jal Abiy is saying the resumption of basic services isn't a precondition but a necessity to the people. It only wants a consultation about whoever is going to be footing the bills. Nothing political here. TPLF is already cornered and out of pretexts to go to war, or so it seems. The next war though, isn't going to be one that neither side wins ....but it might be the only salvation for the country to get outta the current morass. No strong ethnic hegemony is good for the country
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 12:18
by Sam Ebalalehu
It should. If any party has the power to impose precondition it is the Ethiopian government , not TPLF. Any negotiation to procceed first TPLF should be disarmed. Without such a move, I think, negotiation is a pipedream.
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 12:32
by Tiago
Galla Abiy wants TPLF as a buffer between Amhara and Galla.otherwise what is the meaning of negotiation with confirmed criminal group?
Gallas know very well once their parent TPLF is gone ,they are a pushover.
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 13 Aug 2022, 08:39
by sarcasm
temari wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 06:04
The government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place
with only bad options to choose from:
1. Live under the current siege and risk a revolt against TPLF leaders from the people of Tigray or from some of the Awrajas. Some military members may also get tempted to plan a coup. A social and political instability in Tigray is inevitable.
2. Go to war and risk not only loosing more land such as Almata & co. but also risk that some TPLF leaders may end up like Seyoum Mesfin and Abbay Tsehaye.
3. Abide by the government rules and start negotiation without any preconditions under the AU and hope things may improve in the process. The federal government may try to prolong the process though in which case we are back to option 1.
Abiy's strategy
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 14 Aug 2022, 01:15
by Sadacha Macca
Tiago wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 12:32
Galla Abiy wants TPLF as a buffer between Amhara and Galla.otherwise what is the meaning of negotiation with confirmed criminal group?
Gallas know very well once their parent TPLF is gone ,they are a pushover.
Agame boy, if you feel Oromo are a pushover why don't you test is then and see what happens? You're a cyber warrior. Keyboard Jegna. And you know it.
Nobody is stopping you or anyone from fighting TPLF if you want. Otherwise, you'll accept what's occurring and there's nothing that you can do but cry and spew ethnic slurs and hatred online.
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 14 Aug 2022, 01:15
by Sadacha Macca
Tiago wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 12:32
Galla Abiy wants TPLF as a buffer between Amhara and Galla.otherwise what is the meaning of negotiation with confirmed criminal group?
Gallas know very well once their parent TPLF is gone ,they are a pushover.
Agame boy, if you feel Oromo are a pushover why don't you test us then and see what happens? You're a cyber warrior. Keyboard Jegna. And you know it.
Nobody is stopping you or anyone from fighting TPLF if you want. Otherwise, you'll accept what's occurring and there's nothing that you can do but cry and spew ethnic slurs and hatred online.
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 14 Aug 2022, 02:07
by Fiyameta
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 14 Aug 2022, 08:24
by Weyane.is.dead
Re: MoFA: "The government rejects any preconditions for talks. It also rejects any other facilitators other than the AU"
Posted: 24 Aug 2022, 18:51
by sarcasm
sarcasm wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 06:41
temari wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 06:04
It seems there will be no direct talks. There is literary nothing to negotiate between the federal government and TPLF.
The government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place with only bad options to choose from:
1. Live under the current siege and risk a revolt against TPLF leaders from the people of Tigray or from some of the Awrajas. Some military members may also get tempted to plan a coup. A social and political instability in Tigray is inevitable.
2. Go to war and risk not only loosing more land such as Almata & co. but also risk that some TPLF leaders may end up like Seyoum Mesfin and Abbay Tsehaye.
3. Abide by the government rules and start negotiation without any preconditions under the AU and hope things may improve in the process. The federal government may try to prolong the process though in which case we are back to option 1.
Until things get sorted out, the ordinary people of Tigray will be the ones that will suffer the most.
The talks will be happening, my friend. If the government is putting TPLF in a very difficult place
with only bad options to choose from, then the government is not committed to peaceful resolution on win-win principles and will be responsible for
forcing a second round of war to happen.
It's sad but it seems I was wrong in thinking the forces of peace would win over the forces of war. Ato Temari, you were right, PM Abiy has setup the peace talks to fail. Congrats.
