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Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 09:48
by Misraq
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The Gurage ethnic groups (clans) seam to occupy a large swath of lands in central, western and southern Ethiopia. Archeologists need to invest to study more on this. It won't be exaggerating to say that one third 30% of the current Oromo society could well be Gurage.
The Galla ethnic group made devastations in the medieval time. It changed the face of the then Ethiopia to something that we have now. Almost 38 ethnic groups were vanished in a mere 100 years of Galla occupation. It is so ironic for the Galla to complain about subjugation and unfair treatments despite it causing to exterminate 38 ethnic groups, reducing Gurage & Hadiya to minority status and holding state power for the last 120 years in Ethiopia.
Galla and Agame cry endlessly despite being aggressors themselves
https://en.sewasew.com/p/ayma-lla-l-(%E ... %E1%88%8D)
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 10:53
by Right
History is a repetition. This time they are asking to be swallowed by Oromuma.
Ethiopia AKA Amhara has been good to the Guraghies. Defending Ethiopia and protecting minorities has been a duty the Amaharas proudly embraced it.
As usual, of all the minorities who benefited the most is coming out swinging a knife to hurt the wounded Amaharas on behalf of the Oromuma.
There is a price to be paid. Look at Somalia, Tigrai and Eritrea.
The Guraghies are now Oromuma. With Gada in full progress no one recognize them in a decade.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 13:25
by Sadacha Macca
I know you envy the great Oromo nation. A nation of conquerors who didn't depend on the white man and his weapons to conquer and establish our beautiful large green state that we have today that makes you cry at night with jealousy. It's okay sister miss rock. Let those years flow like the Nile river and get that grief out. It's therapeutic. It'll make you feel better.
A lot of them willingly assimilated into the Oromo nation who treated them as if they were any other Oromo. I've made a post about it and will repost it here sometime today. Even if we were to take your argument seriously, nobody from back then is alive today to be held accountable. Not to mention that the gurage themselves migrated from elsewhere to the south, they were great soldiers, they won many wars and lost some, just like anyone else.
Is it drying to expose what's happening to your people? No. If it were, then Amara's cry when they protest in the west and in Ethiopia about how fano is targeted, Amara genocide, etc. Same for Afar who say they're being targeted and harmed by TPLF, and neglected by Abiy.
And so on and so forth.
Silly argument miss rock. You need to do better.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 14:04
by ethiopianunity
Sadacca, your heart beat is per Jawar to turn those regions using the name Oromiya and saying 80% of Oromo Muslim therefor converted the region and south lslamic. That is your beef. Stop talking about Oromo as the owner of land, it is not ALL those tribes are the owners including Oromo. Tplf and Shabia carved Ethiopia a la the Berlin Conference of scramble for Africa. You think now the region belongs to you. So is Amara, Somali Afar,cTigray,vetc region do not belong to one ethnic but all. This is why the suspicion of govt who is controlled cow towing with Liberation Fronts and neocolonialists taking its time not to dissolve these region before its too late. The colonialist know very well the longer it takes, the more the regions completely identify themselves with negative ethnic policy and get them used to like Tigrayan region, for forced referrundem to dissolve Ethiopia.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 14:37
by Misraq
Sadacca a.k.a Sadula coming from Jimmy can safely trace her ancestors to Konso, Kefficho, Tanbaro or one of those tiny tribes who exist in the periphery of current Oromo region. It won't be long before Sadacca will learn her true identity.
Bekele Garba as his name suggests is a Garba (Gebaro) which litterally means Gabar, the conquered or slaves at its best. Bekele Garba once asked whether he feels his ancestors were Gafat and he said "Yes indeed". The same can be said about Negasso Gidada (ex president) who traced his forefathers to the Damot ethnic group who are now extinct because they were swallowed.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 14:43
by Za-Ilmaknun
Adaa, Meta and Sodo ethnicities:
Quote unquote (written 70 years ago)
The Oromo of Shewa do not limit adoption to their racial group only; they adopt Amhara and Gurage with whom they are often intermingled. In such case no legal or ceremonial procedure is observed. As soon as somebody passes around the news that he is ready to give away his child, anybody who wishes may ask for it and take it home. They may or may not pay for the child according to the circumstances. This kind of adoption is obviously of a more recent than the traditional adoption among the Oromo. The following is a description of the latter.
In some instances in the past an Oromo tribe adopted a neighbouring tribe (not Oromo) by recognizing it as part of the Oromo race. I was told that once Sodo Gurage were adopted by the Soddo Oromo. Among the Oromo themselves the Metta tribe (living North of Addis Alam) was adopted by Bako tribe. In the same way the Galan (according to the Oromo genealogy) who was the ancestor of all the Gaan Galan Oromo, adopted the Adaa tribe, living now around Bishoftu and Mojjo, as one of his sons.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 14:51
by euroland
Only Agames such as Misraq who is wearing Amara skirt are who insult every ethnic group to create hates against the Amara. This [ deleted ] is not Amara; he is definitely born from agame mom and unknown Derg soldier dad in Asmara. That tells me what his mom’s former profession is. I have been following his posts for a while, there isn’t any ethnic that he didn’t attack except the agames.
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑14 Jun 2022, 13:25
I know you envy the great Oromo nation. A nation of conquerors who didn't depend on the white man and his weapons to conquer and establish our beautiful large green state that we have today that makes you cry at night with jealousy. It's okay sister miss rock. Let those years flow like the Nile river and get that grief out. It's therapeutic. It'll make you feel better.
A lot of them willingly assimilated into the Oromo nation who treated them as if they were any other Oromo. I've made a post about it and will repost it here sometime today. Even if we were to take your argument seriously, nobody from back then is alive today to be held accountable. Not to mention that the gurage themselves migrated from elsewhere to the south, they were great soldiers, they won many wars and lost some, just like anyone else.
Is it drying to expose what's happening to your people? No. If it were, then Amara's cry when they protest in the west and in Ethiopia about how fano is targeted, Amara genocide, etc. Same for Afar who say they're being targeted and harmed by TPLF, and neglected by Abiy.
And so on and so forth.
Silly argument miss rock. You need to do better.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 14:51
by Za-Ilmaknun
Arsi-Oromo informants in the Arba-Gugu region35 told me that before the coming of their group the country had been occupied by Amharic-speaking Orgobba (Argobba) who can be credited with stone-built tumuli, clay fragments, and other archaeological legacies in this area. The neighbouring Karrayyuu occasionally mention the Harala and also the Argobba builders of the dilapidated terrace system and stone ruins at Mätähara (Matahaaraa) at the middle Awas River and compare these previously settled groups with the Hadiyya who were the original population in the Arsi area.
For a long time, alongside the Christian Empire, the name Hadiyya constituted one of the most significant Ethiopian political and territorial power blocs which then broke down in the 16th century and disappeared from historical documentation. Populations with this name – as a proper group numbering approximately 1.3 million and those of Hadiyya descent probably several million – survived in central-southern Ethiopia.
The Arsi-Oromo generally called the Hadiyya west of the Bilate by the name Garba (Gabaro) whose origin seems to be verifiable. It was collectively assigned to peoples who had been conquered and assimilated by the Oromo in the course of their great expansion from the 16th century onwards
The term Garba originally applied to conquered people – also in the disdainful meaning of “slaves”. Because the Hadiyya were the first foreign ethnic group encountered by the Oromo, “Garba” was retained for them in a particularly marked way. In the 1970s, the Arsi were certainly no longer aware of the original significance of the name and understood Garba rather as a neutral ethnic term. To the east of Lake Zway they eventually differentiated between “pure” Oromo and “Oromo Gabaro”, who trace back to assimilated Hadiyya clans, and in the Arba-Gugu region the old battle call oofa Garba or dhiibaa Garba (“expel the Hadiyya”) was remembered in the oral traditions (cf. chap. 3.4.3). Most of the Hadiyya groups between the Omo and Bilate know Guffuttaamo, a kind of ethnonym supposed to be derived from guffuutta, a leather cap which was a typical feature of the women’s traditional costume. Sometimes Guffuttaamo also appears as an ancestor in the genealogies and likewise it occurs as an ethnic designation among the Baarentuu-Oromo. The abbreviation Gufte for the name Guffuttaamo then became corrupted to Tufte, apparently due to D’ABBADIE’s deficiency in transcribing, because he never visited these areas himself. With this name he referred particularly to the people in the Baadawwaachcho region where it was especially remembered and preserved
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 16:24
by Sadacha Macca
euroland wrote: ↑14 Jun 2022, 14:51
Only Agames such as Misraq who is wearing Amara skirt are who insult every ethnic group to create hates against the Amara. This [ deleted ] is not Amara; he is definitely born from agame mom and unknown Derg soldier dad in Asmara. That tells me what his mom’s former profession is. I have been following his posts for a while, there isn’t any ethnic that he didn’t attack except the agames.
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑14 Jun 2022, 13:25
I know you envy the great Oromo nation. A nation of conquerors who didn't depend on the white man and his weapons to conquer and establish our beautiful large green state that we have today that makes you cry at night with jealousy. It's okay sister miss rock. Let those years flow like the Nile river and get that grief out. It's therapeutic. It'll make you feel better.
A lot of them willingly assimilated into the Oromo nation who treated them as if they were any other Oromo. I've made a post about it and will repost it here sometime today. Even if we were to take your argument seriously, nobody from back then is alive today to be held accountable. Not to mention that the gurage themselves migrated from elsewhere to the south, they were great soldiers, they won many wars and lost some, just like anyone else.
Is it drying to expose what's happening to your people? No. If it were, then Amara's cry when they protest in the west and in Ethiopia about how fano is targeted, Amara genocide, etc. Same for Afar who say they're being targeted and harmed by TPLF, and neglected by Abiy.
And so on and so forth.
Silly argument miss rock. You need to do better.
Agreed. For a while, Miss Rock, she was fooling some people, but one thing that exposed her is that she tries way too hard to be an Amara nationalist. A confident Amara nationalist doesn't have try so hard, nor would one have to go out of their way to insult everyone. Not to mention, she used to disrespect Eritreans a lot too, when we all know, Eritrean strong armed forces played a big role in saving Ethiopia, Amara's, and even took on the role of training thousands of Amara's so that they can defend themselves very well and be an organized, fighting unit.
Miss Rock, sure you can, I'm sure you're not another TPLF Cyber troll at all, right? Right! Eshi.
Even if I found out that I was full Silte [my great grandmother is Full Silte], that got assimilated by Oromo's, I'd still claim Oromo all day.
I love my people, and I know them to be kind, welcoming people, but also fierce against those who wish to impose themselves on us and exploit us.
We know you envy us-hence why you insult us day and night. I am sorry miss rock, betam sorry new, eshi? Ayezosh missrockeyeee.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 16:41
by ethiopianunity
Mercenary Kenyan Oromo to taint Ambo Oromo Merara Gudina lied he is from Ambo to turn Ambo against Ethiopia. Ambo Werge who used to talk on You tube was exposed to be from Weyane, born/ raised in Ambo to taint the hero Ambo people that defied Tplf in 1991. The convert Protestant, Muslim and those Kenyan / Somalian influenced, today Arab influenced had turn them against Ethiopia.
Let us talk about in North, Tigray, already and Amaras are already being influenced by non Hebrew Europeans against Ethiopia beinhvtold false story. In fact, it is Ethiopians with Hebrews and not the Nazi Eutopeans
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 15 Jun 2022, 00:56
by Union
Absolutely, wahabi sadacha really thinks he owns the land tplf marked for him

I kept telling him, his shint'am wahabi soldiers have to defeat all Ethiopians and then the mighty Amara to own the land he claims before we Ethiopian get rid of the stupi'd ethnic federalism and kilile all together. The change is already on progress as the oromo wahabis recently lost 10 rounds of war in Gojam just to capture an individual warrior Amara. The Amaras enjoyed massacring the devil wahabis so far just like the Gambelas did today in Gambela city!.

shin'tam wahabi

as the result the wahabi giragn abiy Ahmed was screaming and showing his frustration at the parliament. He hasn't seen nothing yet, we are coming for him
Wahabi wahabi.....whatch gonna...whatch gona do when they come you....
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 15 Jun 2022, 01:16
by Union
And all the indegnous tribes that were swallowed by the oromos from Madagascar are what we call Habesha face oromos
Habesha face oromos have been confused up to now, but they are more and more aware how unrelated they are to Kenya face oromos from Madagascar. Habesha face oromos realized the Kenya face oromos are the wahabis who are dreaming about creating an Islamic state out of the land tplf gave them.
For example, the half Habesha face aka Tolosa Ebsa is urging Ethiopians to join Fano after he realizes what the wahabis are doing to Ethiopia.
Re: Gurage is one of the Tribe that was reduced to minority by the Galla in 16th century
Posted: 15 Jun 2022, 01:36
by Horus
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ብዙ አፈታሪክ ወይም የሽማግሎች ልብ ወለድ እንደ ታሪክ እየተወረወረ ነው እዚህ ፎረም ላይ። እኔ አማራና አሮሞ ያለው የአንድ ሕዝብነት ባህል (ሴራ) አላውቅም ። የጉራጌ ሴራ እንዴት እንደ ሆነ ለመናገር አችላለሁ ። አንድ የሆነ ጎሳ ወስደን ያዚያ ጎሳ ግንድ ምን እንደ ሆነ ለማወቅ ብቻ በቂ መለኪያ አይደለም ። በአንድ ሕዝብ ሕይወት ውስጥ ለዘመነት የማይለወጡ ባህሎችን እምነት፣ የጋብቻ፣ የምግብ፣ የቤት አሰራር፣ የስራ፣ የህግ፣ ያስተዳደር ባህሎችን መመልከት ያስገልጋል።
የጉራጌ አንድ ህዝብነት ሴር ልክ ስሙ እንደ ሚለው የጎራ ቤትነት ሴራ ይባላል። የጎረቤትነት ሴራ የገንዳ (የጌእንዳ) ስርዓት ማለት ነው። ለምሳሌ አንድ ቤተሰብ ወይም ቀበሌ ሕዝብ በሆነ ምክኛት ወደ ጉራጌ አገር መጥተው ቢሰፍሩ ወይም መስፈር ቢፈልጉ እና ያገሬው ሕዝብ እንደ ነግዳ (በይተዋር) ሳይሆን እንደ ገንዳ (ጎራቤት) እንዲቀበላቸው ከፈለጉ ፍላጎታቸውን ላገር ሸንጎ (የእኛ አገር ሸንጎ ጎርደና ይባላል) ያቀርቡና ጎርደናው ሊቀበላቸው ፈቃደኛ ከሆነ ድል ያለ በዓል ተደርጎ ባገር ሸንጎ ፊት ያ መጤ ሕዝብ የጎርደናው እምነት፣ ሃይማኖት፣ ያገር ሴራ የጋብቻ፣ ሌላም ሌላም ባህል ተቀብሎ ለመኖር ቃል ኪዳን ወይም መሃላ ገብቶ አንድ ሕዝብ ይሆናል ። ያ ሲሆን ብቻ ነው ሊጋባ፣ ሲሞት ሊቀበር፣ ማንኛው ያገሩ ሕዝብ ያለውን መብትና ክብር የሚሰጠው ። አልፈልግም ያሉ ሙሉ በሙል ተለይተው ኑሮአቸውን ተነጥለው ይኖራሉ ፣ እንደ ባይተዋር ማለት ነው።
ከዚህ ውጭ አዶፕሽን ምን እንደ ሆነ አላቅም ። ከላይ ባስቀመትኩት ሴራ ምክኛት ነው ለምሳሌ በጉራጌ ብዙ የቋንቋ ዲያሌክ ያለው ። የቃል ኪዳኑ አባልት ሁሉም ጉራጌ ሆኑ እንጂ የውስጥ ቋንቋ ወይም ዲያሌክት፣ ይዘው የራሳቸው የውስ ጥክላን ወይም ናኡስ ጎሳ ስም ይዘው ይቀጥላሉ ። ይህ ነው የጎራ ቤትነት ወይም የጎራ ጌ አንድ ሕዝብ መሆኛ ሴራ።
ይህ በጦርነት አገራቸው የተነጠቁ፣ በሌላ ጎሳ በሃይል የተነቀሉ። አገራቸውን ትተው ወደ ሌላ ሕዝብ በመሰደ ከላይ ባስቀመጥኩት ሴራ አማካይነት በግዜ ርዝመት ሌላ ቋንቋና ባህል የወሰዱትን አያካትትም።
ይህን ሁሉ ሆኖ አንድ አንትሮፖሎጂስት በጥንቃቄ አንድን ሕዝብ ካጠና የዚያ ሕዝብ ግንድ ምን እንደ ሆነ ይታወቃል ። ቋንቋም ቢሆን ልክ እንደ ማቴሪያል አርኪዮሎጂ እና እንደ ጄኔቲክስ የሰዎችን ታሪክ ዲካ መዝግብ ያኖራል። አንዳንድ ቁልፍ የሆኑ ቃላት በውስጣቸው የተደበቀ፣ የተቀበረ ታሪክ አለ ። ይህን ሳይንሳዊ በሆነ መንገድ ማስተር ማድረግ ያስፈልጋል ።