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If Abiy is directly or indirectly talking to the blacklisted terrorist he himself christened as enemies of Ethiopia with out getting input from Wedi Afom, then in my eyes he is not a trusted Eritrea’s friend.
It is not enough that he left tigray with out talking to Eritrea, after Eritrea sacrificed to save him and Ethiopia by destroying woyane in the early stages, and now is emboldening the filthy tegarus to keep on poking Eritrea as we speak after failing to win in Ethio Afar and Amhara regions and begging the international community to demand Eritrea leave some of Ethiopia’s (tigray) territories while Abiy is so scared of a rag tag tigray militia doesn’t have the guts to politely ask Eritrea to leave tigray (which is the only way Eritrea will leave, not by Aba Sanjo, USA or UN demands) now it is a shame he is making another mistake if he makes a deal with the terrorists.
What Eritrea if it didn’t tell him in secret as yet, needs to tell him before he signs the peace treaty with woyane (which publicly said doesn’t recognize him as a legit Ethio leader) is that it will leave tigray territories by itself, and if tigray dares it won’t ask any permission to cross Ethiopian (tigray region) and will go all the way to even mekele and arrest or assassinate those terrorists and completely destroy the rag tag militia and since we know that tigray won’t dare to venture towards Eritrea and hence try’s to go back to Addis overthrow Abiy or take back the leadership in Ethiopia, Eritrea won’t come to save his as*s or Ethiopia and Eritrea should burn all the documents of all the meetings and deals both countries made in the last two years
We are tired of getting burned by trying to help others.
Yes we believed that both countries being honest and in peace can do miracles, but if Abiy is starting to have very weak knees concerning these shiftas, then Eritrea needs to just mind its own business and go it alone.
Working together after all could have benefitted Ethiopia more than Eritrea.
It is not like we are not witnessing here every day who is dreaming to be a part of whom.
I mean there is nothing any Eritrean dreaming or talking to be a part or associates with any thing which is not ours.
Eritrea should tell Ethiopia, unless woyane or tplf is gone for good and replaced by a new agame party which respects Eritrea, Eritrea should recall its ambassador from Addis.

He does not only look like; in fact, he is. We will see the outcome before mid-summer. I said many times, Eritrea should not drag her feet in taking out TPLF. I don't think Eritrea should ask Abiy Ahmed's permission to the job; he does not have any responsibility over TPLF controlled Tigray. I am wondering what reason he will pull out of his arse if Eritrea takes over Meqelle. If not now, it will never happen. I guarantee this.

Cigar wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 17:54

If Abiy is directly or indirectly talking to the blacklisted terrorist he himself christened as enemies of Ethiopia with out getting input from Wedi Afom, then in my eyes he is not a trusted Eritrea’s friend.
It is not enough that he left tigray with out talking to Eritrea, after Eritrea sacrificed to save him and Ethiopia by destroying woyane in the early stages, and now is emboldening the filthy tegarus to keep on poking Eritrea as we speak after failing to win in Ethio Afar and Amhara regions and begging the international community to demand Eritrea leave some of Ethiopia’s (tigray) territories while Abiy is so scared of a rag tag tigray militia doesn’t have the guts to politely ask Eritrea to leave tigray (which is the only way Eritrea will leave, not by Aba Sanjo, USA or UN demands) now it is a shame he is making another mistake if he makes a deal with the terrorists.
What Eritrea if it didn’t tell him in secret as yet, needs to tell him before he signs the peace treaty with woyane (which publicly said doesn’t recognize him as a legit Ethio leader) is that it will leave tigray territories by itself, and if tigray dares it won’t ask any permission to cross Ethiopian (tigray region) and will go all the way to even mekele and arrest or assassinate those terrorists and completely destroy the rag tag militia and since we know that tigray won’t dare to venture towards Eritrea and hence try’s to go back to Addis overthrow Abiy or take back the leadership in Ethiopia, Eritrea won’t come to save his as*s or Ethiopia and Eritrea should burn all the documents of all the meetings and deals both countries made in the last two years
We are tired of getting burned by trying to help others.
Yes we believed that both countries being honest and in peace can do miracles, but if Abiy is starting to have very weak knees concerning these shiftas, then Eritrea needs to just mind its own business and go it alone.
Working together after all could have benefitted Ethiopia more than Eritrea.
It is not like we are not witnessing here every day who is dreaming to be a part of whom.
I mean there is nothing any Eritrean dreaming or talking to be a part or associates with any thing which is not ours.
Eritrea should tell Ethiopia, unless woyane or tplf is gone for good and replaced by a new agame party which respects Eritrea, Eritrea should recall its ambassador from Addis.

Cigar, here is the objective Oromo opinion, with no insults, emotions, etc;

If Abiy is pressured by the same white men whose money Ethiopia depends on for its budget, it'd be hard for him to say No, as sad and as wrong as it may be. The same way the frog meles was pressured to do what they said, even if he may have disagreed with it inside, at least, at times.
You have to remember that, Ethiopia's existence itself is owed to certain European powers who wanted an ally in that part of Africa, to advance their interests, not to mention the resources in the south that they wanted access to.
Abiy may also see Tigray as being less of a threat to his power, in Addis Ababa, than the Oromo nationalists [OLF] and of course, elements of Fano who may be able to galvanize the Amhara masses, takeover Amhara state and thus, make it completely autonomous and out of federal control. If he loses Oromia and Amhara state, or even 1 of those states which are both the backbones of Ethiopia; then he'd be in big trouble; bigger trouble than if he were to simply lose Tigray.
Since Tigray would never be able to form the same alliances it did, during the Derg/Gedli struggle, it poses little to no threat, to the power of Abiy's regime at the center, so if they go their own way, Abiy wouldn't mind, and if they were to stay in the current predicament, stuck, and isolated; he's fine with that too. But, if Amhara or Oromo rise up and he loses power over 1 or both of those states, you know the rest....

Eritrea helped save Ethiopia for sure, and for that, Eritrea deserves our thanks and respect, but let's be honest, Eritrea did it for their own interests too, otherwise, it would have just guarded its borders and watched everything play out from their country. It was in Eritrea's best interests for the TPLF to be destroyed, or at the very least, weakened to the point that it think a 100 times, before even considering an attack on Eritrea or on other Ethiopian states. TPLF was/is the common enemy of Ethiopia's government, of Eritrea's government, and of course, of the various nations within Ethiopia, be it the Amhara, Oromo, Somali, or Afar/and others. So, we had a common foe, collectively.
Not to mention that, of course, Eritreans had a natural and understood, desire for revenge against the TPLF, who tried its best to weaken Eritrea, isolate it, harm it in any and every way possible.


Also, as I've said in another thread, the ENDF and the country itself, is too economically weak, to fight another 10-20 year insurgency in Tigray, which is what would occur if he were to go back there, and the ENDF is still being restructured, because its top generals were all TPLF, and they were the ones who got the best training, and had the most experience from other wars, so it's gonna take some years before the ENDF is as efficient as it was before. Basically, we are paying for the bad decisions that the corrupt TPLF made throughout the years, by them putting tigrayans in all the most important positions. Entering Tigray would be too costly and could put the country in an even worse position, because tplf will use it as propaganda to get more recruits to continue a long bloody guerrilla war;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... erilla-war
not to mention that the so called superpowers want to save their beloved slave tplf and doesn't want them to be wiped out and since they are the ones funding Ethiopia's budget, they cannot be ignored [as unfortunate as that may be]. SO, Abiy's in a tough spot indeed.

Abiy is nothing but a wahabi olf who is only working to create an Islamic state of oromia just like wahabi sadacha maca. Once they control Ethiopia, red sea is next! So seeing weak agame, Amara and Eritrea is what they are dreaming about. Agames are not helping themselves by fighting for tplf. Idiots!!

Wahabi Abiy feels talking to Eritrea about its negotiations with tplf or issues with another region that boarders Eritrea would weaken his plans.

He wants to isolate Eritrea from Ethiopian matters because whenever he attacks Amara for example, Eritrea is not envolved, such as when he attempts to give back Welkiet to Tplf. And when he trys to get Tplf and Amara and Eritrea go to war without his involvement which is what's happening right now. Or, if all 3 of them fight eachother that will make his dream come true. So isolating Eritrea is a need for him to fulfill his agenda.

Esayas is ruining Abiys hidden plans so far, obviously, Abiy did not want Eritrea to be involved on the first war with Tplf. He wanted Amara and Tplf to fight I bet he was well aware of the northern command was going to be attacked . With agame tplf controlling the nothern command, anyone but Abiy could see the the attack was coming.

To weaken the northerners, what they call Habeshas, they want war and trouble there. So basically Esayas is a problem for him now and that is why he is avoiding Eritrea. His oromuma dream is in trouble whenever Amara is stronger and the cooperation with Eritrea is progressive.

So he would go to war with Eritrea. I would say he has too to bring his oromuma dream come true so at least Esayas must go. And that is why he is busy building up his military and negotiated with tplf. With the sell out Amara PP, tplf and opdo, Eritrea will be attacked. Actually Eritrea is already being attacked and Abiy is doing nothing about it as a payback except having meetings with the same tplfs

Too many idiots in this site. Abiy is the leader of Ethiopia and he can try to go to war against any Ethio region which will try to overthrow his govt. And that is not Eritrea’s business. We saved Ethiopia in this war when we destroyed woyane not particularly we care who leads Ethiopia ( even though Abiy stretched his peaceful hand towards Eritrea) but our number one reason is that we had to make the funfunat agames pay for the suffering they caused us in the last 2 decades.
Now, whether Abiy or any Ethiopian leader wants to fu’ck with Eritrea, we will as usual kick them like we usually do and change leadership of Ethiopia.
Sellassie, Mengistu and woyane tried us in the past, not as an individual regions. They all came riding the whole Ethiopian nationalities and became fertilizers in Eritrea and it is amazing some of you want to try the same crap you tried before which you got your a’sses handed to you.
Not that we are not more than capable on defending our country, but why do you even entertain the idea about any future war with Eritrea?
What is that Eritrea harmed you or tried to steal from you?
All Eritrea did is came to your rescues, again luckily for you the entity (woyane) which was trying to fu’ck you up happens to be Eritrea’s enemy.
Learn your lessons from what happened to your previous stupid 3 regimes and for your sake don’t mess up the good thing going for you.
Other than that, come on dare us.
Fu’cken cowards and a’ss wipes.

But Abiy Ahmed is not the leader of Tigray. And good part of Amhara slipped out of his hand. I don't think you fully scanned the total environment. Anyway, don't underestimate TPLF over confidence is not advisable. There is no too little enemy or too big enemy - an enemy is enemy. Be realistic - 27 years of hell rained over Eritrea not by anyone else but by the TPLF.

Cigar wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2022, 13:52

Too many idiots in this site. Abiy is the leader of Ethiopia and he can try to go to war against any Ethio region which will try to overthrow his govt. And that is not Eritrea’s business. We saved Ethiopia in this war when we destroyed woyane not particularly we care who leads Ethiopia ( even though Abiy stretched his peaceful hand towards Eritrea) but our number one reason is that we had to make the funfunat agames pay for the suffering they caused us in the last 2 decades.
Now, whether Abiy or any Ethiopian leader wants to fu’ck with Eritrea, we will as usual kick them like we usually do and change leadership of Ethiopia.
Sellassie, Mengistu and woyane tried us in the past, not as an individual regions. They all came riding the whole Ethiopian nationalities and became fertilizers in Eritrea and it is amazing some of you want to try the same crap you tried before which you got your a’sses handed to you.
Not that we are not more than capable on defending our country, but why do you even entertain the idea about any future war with Eritrea?
What is that Eritrea harmed you or tried to steal from you?
All Eritrea did is came to your rescues, again luckily for you the entity (woyane) which was trying to fu’ck you up happens to be Eritrea’s enemy.
Learn your lessons from what happened to your previous stupid 3 regimes and for your sake don’t mess up the good thing going for you.
Other than that, come on dare us.
Fu’cken cowards and a’ss wipes.

You keep saying you saved Ethiopia. You must say you contributed in saving Ethiopia! I only want to correct you on that fact!

2ndly, You were not alone fighting with derg and Haileselassie, Ethiopians were the majority fighting the derg. In addtion to the west who were the masterminds and suppliers just the way they supported tplf last year

You are again not thinking realistically. It sounds like you are saying war is not possible with Eritrea. But Eritrea is on war as we speak. By who? By tplf who is in negotiations that does not include Eritrea. Not including Eritrea in the negotiations is a war on its own!! It just has not manifested yet. Me, stating these facts does not mean I am beating a war drum or i am wishing you evil.

The wahabi guy wants to creat his own country including wello, tigray Afar then red sea. The abiy government recently said Ethiopia needs the red sea. What else do you need to figure out they are warming up for a war.

According to their plan if Eritrea loses or weaknes it will give them the apportunity to utilize the Afars to obtain access to red sea. And the US will support them on this. No question about that!! You can say you are capable in stopping them. I am only saying thar is their plan and it is a huge possibility coming

Cigar wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2022, 13:52

Too many idiots in this site. Abiy is the leader of Ethiopia and he can try to go to war against any Ethio region which will try to overthrow his govt. And that is not Eritrea’s business. We saved Ethiopia in this war when we destroyed woyane not particularly we care who leads Ethiopia ( even though Abiy stretched his peaceful hand towards Eritrea) but our number one reason is that we had to make the funfunat agames pay for the suffering they caused us in the last 2 decades.
Now, whether Abiy or any Ethiopian leader wants to fu’ck with Eritrea, we will as usual kick them like we usually do and change leadership of Ethiopia.
Sellassie, Mengistu and woyane tried us in the past, not as an individual regions. They all came riding the whole Ethiopian nationalities and became fertilizers in Eritrea and it is amazing some of you want to try the same crap you tried before which you got your a’sses handed to you.
Not that we are not more than capable on defending our country, but why do you even entertain the idea about any future war with Eritrea?
What is that Eritrea harmed you or tried to steal from you?
All Eritrea did is came to your rescues, again luckily for you the entity (woyane) which was trying to fu’ck you up happens to be Eritrea’s enemy.
Learn your lessons from what happened to your previous stupid 3 regimes and for your sake don’t mess up the good thing going for you.
Other than that, come on dare us.
Fu’cken cowards and a’ss wipes.

Sister union aka present aka right aka educator aka ultimate legacy, at least try some new lies. The same old lies about Islamic state, blah blah blah, just shows how much you hate Muslims and hate Oromo. Funny thing is, you are not brave enough to come out of the tigrayan closet and admit that you are trying very hard to convince Eritreans and Amaras to ally with the Tigrayans, so you resort to lies and deception. Just say you want the Habesha groups, that you mentioned, the Eritreans, the Amara, to forgive Tigray and ally with Tigrayans. Make it clear and I'm sure they'll at least hear you out. Of course you'll have to compromise and tell your people to give up on Welkait, that land is gone forever.
You are a Tigrayan who Is rightfully afraid of what the TPLfs actions have brought upon the entire Tigray, as we see in the last year or so, but if your tegadalay Tigrayan people want to be free, you have to defeat TPLF from within. Your people clearly are not resisting the TPLF or trying to replace them with a Tigrayan party that would respect Ethiopia's nations and nationalities, and Eritrea.
The consequences of TPLfs are past aggressions can be seen now, in the way Tigray is under siege as your people say. So tell Tigray to unite and overthrow the TPLF and make a new political party that will be at peace with their neighbors, if not for their neighbors, then for their own good. Remember, siye abraha and TPLF elites have their kids overseas counting money while Tigrayans suffer.


Cigar,
You have to keep in mind that any government that comes to power in Ethiopia, regardless of the ethnic makeup of it's leadership, is going to have to be essentially a servant of the same western nations that fund them. I don't support it nor does the average Oromo for sure, but there's nothing we can do. The government doesn't depend on internal support but rather, external.
We Oromo for sure do not support any wars to be honest, whether it be in Tigray, or against Eritrea, or other than that. The war in Tigray was in the making for a while, so it can be said it was unavoidable. But any conflict with Eritrea would be uncalled for and no one in Ethiopia would support it, be it an Amara, an Oromo, etc, only TPLF led Tigray, aka the people of union, would support it for the purpose of revenge.
I see it as more propaganda by TPLF cyber cadres to try to invite conflict between Abiy, Eritrea and Amara's, because that's the alliance that crushed TPLF, routed then out of Welkait and sent them packing....so of course it's in their best interests to break up that alliance and have them focus on fighting each other and not against their beloved TPLF.

Man get the fu’ck out with your lies.
Don’t freaking tell me you and your entire Ethiopian family member died to fight alongside Eritreans against your coward previous leaders or Eritrea’s struggle for independence like we the Eritreans did. You were bowing to the evil midget king and the bariaw Mengistu. Eritrea alone made life for your midget ugly dead sellassie unbearable that he neglected his population and starve 10s millions of Ethiopians to die and had them song dedicated to them “We are the world “
And only Eritrea defeated dergue. Where the fuc”k jungle were you or your families fighting the dergue troops? In Addis? LOL.
Only from my our family 5 did spent decades in the Eritrean jungles cutting the balls of your intruding Ethiopians and shoving them in their throats just like every Eritrean who was born after our independence who went through SAWA is doing the same to your agame family members.
tplf aka woyane was a beneficiary of Eritrea’s struggle. Even in 1991 we had Shaebia military base in Addis until 1994 to baby sit the coward woyane.
You mother fu’ckers are freaking talk and talk sh”it with none of you even holding a freaking pistol or sleeping with snakes and raccoons and eating them for meal like we did for 30 years.
Guess what you all are pu’ssies. Stop opening your ZETO, ZERO big mouths and just go and try to live in Ethiopia’s jungles with no good and drinks….even with no guns being shot at your ugly foreheads and then come here and tell us you can handle us in any war which we have no idea what for it is. 1/3 of of our fighters who were shoving your parents kolets in their throats were the brave Eritrean women.
Recognize and respect us, or if you have balls come alone or together like you did before and trust me we will shove your kolets in your freaking mouths again.
Eritrea is a sovereign nation and believe that you owe her nothing and is not looking for any war with any body except punishing anybody which harmed Eritreans in the past like woyane and don’t want to learn from the past and poke it again.
This kind of talk am talking is not to all sane Ethiopians. This talk is dedicated to the a’ss wipes who are telling us Abiy or any future Ethio leader have a beef against Eritrea.
Idiots.

Dude, slow down. And Yes, my family from Welkiet were fighting derg from day one. And the Amhara general Tefera Mamo had 6 armies, 3 of the top known as LabAder, Tewdros and Awash. These 6 armies marched to Addis.

Again I did not say you did not fight, i said Ethiopians were heavly involved in the fight as well!! I don't even care about this right now. Its the past. I only want to talk about what is happening now and the plans by the Oromuma wahabis and Tplf

Cigar wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2022, 14:48

Man get the fu’ck out with your lies.
Don’t freaking tell me you and your entire Ethiopian family member died to fight alongside Eritreans against your coward previous leaders or Eritrea’s struggle for independence like we the Eritreans did. You were bowing to the evil midget king and the bariaw Mengistu. Eritrea alone made life for your midget ugly dead sellassie unbearable that he neglected his population and starve 10s millions of Ethiopians to die and had them song dedicated to them “We are the world “
And only Eritrea defeated dergue. Where the fuc”k jungle were you or your families fighting the dergue troops? In Addis? LOL.
Only from my our family 5 did spent decades in the Eritrean jungles cutting the balls of your intruding Ethiopians and shoving them in their throats just like every Eritrean who was born after our independence who went through SAWA is doing the same to your agame family members.
tplf aka woyane was a beneficiary of Eritrea’s struggle. Even in 1991 we had Shaebia military base in Addis until 1994 to baby sit the coward woyane.
You mother fu’ckers are freaking talk and talk sh”it with none of you even holding a freaking pistol or sleeping with snakes and raccoons and eating them for meal like we did for 30 years.
Guess what you all are pu’ssies. Stop opening your ZETO, ZERO big mouths and just go and try to live in Ethiopia’s jungles with no good and drinks….even with no guns being shot at your ugly foreheads and then come here and tell us you can handle us in any war which we have no idea what for it is. 1/3 of of our fighters who were shoving your parents kolets in their throats were the brave Eritrean women.
Recognize and respect us, or if you have balls come alone or together like you did before and trust me we will shove your kolets in your freaking mouths again.
Eritrea is a sovereign nation and believe that you owe her nothing and is not looking for any war with any body except punishing anybody which harmed Eritreans in the past like woyane and don’t want to learn from the past and poke it again.
This kind of talk am talking is not to all sane Ethiopians. This talk is dedicated to the a’ss wipes who are telling us Abiy or any future Ethio leader have a beef against Eritrea.
Idiots.

Which country is he implying in his recent speech? he even said , the amhara militia(FANO) will defend Tigray if he withdraws his regular army from any aggressors.
in my opinion,the man is eager to see war ignite in that part of Africa.

Bingo!! Yes, he is talking about Eritrea. He clearly said if any force attacked Tigray. He is begging Amara to join the coming war. When he finish with Eritrea Amara will be alone is the plan.

But the Amaras are waving Eritrean flag in Amara regions. And the Amara is well aware of what's going on right now to fall for his stupi'd tricks.

The Eritrean independence day celebration he did was for this purpose

Tiago wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2022, 15:14

Which country is he implying in his recent speech? he even said , the amhara militia(FANO) will defend Tigray if he withdraws his regular army from any aggressors.
in my opinion,the man is eager to see war ignite in that part of Africa.