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[Abere]

Eritrea Without Hesitation and Delay Should Take Over መቀሌ to Remove TPLF: There is more to Lose by Not Doing so. By weighing the pros and cons, the pros exceedingly outweigh the cons. As a matter of fact, the current persistent wailing and complaining of the external world against Eritrea will subside when Eritrea once and for all defeated TPLF. Whereas if Eritrea is taking a lukewarm approach, as time goes on the momentum will be lost. It is abundantly clear, Ethiopia is much like a stateless country which once Somalia used to be for the "PM" of Ethiopia is mediocre to leave TPLF intact. TPLF left intact means endangering the future of Ethiopia and Eritrea. A visionary and astute leadership never allow TPLF to have another round of breath. Don' t lease life to TPLF. Takeover መቀሌ and Ethiopians will rally behind you to deliver successful victory.

[sarcasm]

የማይሆን ነገር ለ ___________ አትንገር

[Abere]

If it took 1 week for the Amhara Fano forces to wipe out TPLF all the way from Debre-Berhan to Raya -Alamata, it would only take less than 1 week for Eritrea force to sail just 100 km short distance to rock መቀሌ and get the huge trophy. Don't forget, Amhara Fano can also give a good kick to the rats as it has been good at doing so. All those noises and rants you hear about Eritrea this and Eritrea that or Amhara this Amhara that will be silenced. Don't allow their irritating noise to annoy you.

[Abere]

The sad reality is, neither TPLF nor Abiy Ahmed can free Tigray and save them from hunger. The hunger Tigray people faced today is the product of TPLF, Western countries uncalled interference, indecisive and opportunistic action of Abiy Ahmed and most of all the Tigray people being brainwashed to be TPLF's bedfellow. Until the Tigray people thinks outside of the box and another force other than those mentioned being the cause of hunger involved the suffering of Tigray and in fact their adjacent provinces will continue. Doing the same thing again and again is insanity.

የማይሆን ነገር ለ ___________ አትንገር

[tarik]

Eritrea Without Hesitation and Delay Should Take Over መቀሌ to Remove TPLF: There is more to Lose by Not Doing so. By weighing the pros and cons, the pros exceedingly outweigh the cons. As a matter of fact, the current persistent wailing and complaining of the external world against Eritrea will subside when Eritrea once and for all defeated TPLF. Whereas if Eritrea is taking a lukewarm approach, as time goes on the momentum will be lost. It is abundantly clear, Ethiopia is much like a stateless country which once Somalia used to be for the "PM" of Ethiopia is mediocre to leave TPLF intact. TPLF left intact means endangering the future of Ethiopia and Eritrea. A visionary and astute leadership never allow TPLF to have another round of breath. Don' t lease life to TPLF. Takeover መቀሌ and Ethiopians will rally behind you to deliver successful victory.

Abere: this terrorist-tplf constant provocations will eventually lead 2 z total invasion of cursed-land-tigray by my Eritrea and our friends z Fanos. At z same time usa is giving terrorist-tplf z green light 2 go ahead with these provocations, and get my Eritrea get entangled so that usa can intervene or at least sanction us Eritreans again. But all of their evil intentions r failing. Just like 2day their got their arses destroyed in 4 fronts. And we Eritreans gained more lands inside cursed-land-tigray.

[Noble Amhara]

Why should anyone free those baztards let them starve we do not want another ENDF 2.0 mistake to occur. Tigray is all by itself now! Nobody is responsible for Administrating Tigray it iS a anarchical state

When any army comes to tigray it can onyl respond to such anarchy with more anarchy. That is foolish.

But i do believe Shire Adigrat and Maychew should be captured again

The border of Eritrea Afar and Amhara should be greatly militarized. Tigreans are dying to live in dembia Gonder and hamasien Asmara anywys

As well diplomatically the westerners will try to put another sanction on Our states so the best method to use is let the enemy be strangled in their own caged freedom

[Right]

Abere,
There is no need to call for Eritrea to take over Mekele. Ethiopians should stay out of this kind of drum beating.

It is because of the PP government that TPLF is behaving the way they behave. This war should have been ended a year ago decisively. By now all the TPLF leaders should have been either dead or imprisoned. The PP administration is a joke. Incompetent is an understatement.

You never know where the escalation of war will take you. As weak as the PP government, if Eritrea invaded then it will open up the possibility of foreign intervention and that is what the TPLF is looking for.

Believe me this government is embarrassing. It called two unilateral ceasefire in a fight with a rag tag TPLF. It couldn’t finish the TPLF, instead secretly negotiated and released Sebhat Nega.

So, be carefully. I mean if a foreign intervention is engineered by Americans, a TPLF lead Tigrai might end up with a sea outlet before Ethiopia. That is how horrible the situation is.

This group in charge of Ethiopia are garbages. A 10 grand suite and expensive haircut cut that is ally they know.

[euroland]

Agamew
You are worried Shaebia’s second visit to your nasty city would be the last for your beloved junta’s existence

I share Abere’s suggestion, Eritrea needs to wipe put your junta criminals for once and for all; otherwise, we won’t have amy peace in the horn of African.

Abere,
There is no need to call for Eritrea to take over Mekele. Ethiopians should stay out of this kind of drum beating.

It is because of the PP government that TPLF is behaving the way they behave. This war should have been ended a year ago decisively. By now all the TPLF leaders should have been either dead or imprisoned. The PP administration is a joke. Incompetent is an understatement.

You never know where the escalation of war will take you. As weak as the PP government, if Eritrea invaded then it will open up the possibility of foreign intervention and that is what the TPLF is looking for.

Believe me this government is embarrassing. It called two unilateral ceasefire in a fight with a rag tag TPLF. It couldn’t finish the TPLF, instead secretly negotiated and released Sebhat Nega.

So, be carefully. I mean if a foreign intervention is engineered by Americans, a TPLF lead Tigrai might end up with a sea outlet before Ethiopia. That is how horrible the situation is.

This group in charge of Ethiopia are garbages. A 10 grand suite and expensive haircut cut that is ally they know.

[Right]

Euro,
First learn how to engage in a debate. I am not a Tigrie and I thanked god for that. The two cousins know each other if you wish to then go ahead and slaughter each other. It looks like that is the only skill you know. But I have to protect my Ethiopia.

Second, you as an Eritrean should stay out of an Ethiopian affair. You eat, sleep and walk one thing in your mind: Ethiopia. You left by choice and get over it. There are several neighbouring countries to be obsessed with so please leave Ethiopia alone. Go away.

[euroland]

Euro,
First learn how to engage in a debate. I am not a Tigrie and I thanked god for that. The two cousins know each other if you wish to then go ahead and slaughter each other. It looks like that is the only skill you know. But I have to protect my Ethiopia.

Second, you as an Eritrean should stay out of an Ethiopian affair. You eat, sleep and walk one thing in your mind: Ethiopia. You left by choice and get over it. There are several neighbouring countries to be obsessed with so please leave Ethiopia alone. Go away.

Every Agames say they aren’t agame and then began defending their beloved junta. You are no different. After reviewing your past posts, i came to conclusion that you are indeed one of them. The common denominator for juntas here is the hate for Eritrea and its government. You clearly demonstrate that.

Since when is wiping Weyane and crossing to Chigray is an “Ethiopian Affair” or internal matter.

[Right]

Well you can argue all day but that won’t change the fact that I am not a Tigrie. Remember for us Ethiopians a Tigrie includes a Hamasseins too. For us Hamasseins, Adwa, Mekele all the same.
That is where all the trouble is. You will never see an Afar or a Kunama or an Eriob causing trouble.
You guys have genetically a problem. You crave other people’s money. You tried to master manipulation and theft.

[Abere]

Right,

I have deliberated on this over and over again and reached the conclusion that:

1) the only force that can take out TPLF from Tigray are Eritreans. It is true Amhara forces can defeat TPLF and take over Mekelle, but they cannot control it for longer time as they don't speak Tigrigna. As we all know most Tigres who are bedfellow of TPF has double personality. In time of destress, they speak Amharic and they become Amhara, whereas in time of brief victory, they all of a sudden speak HabziHabzi Tigrigna and are Harinet Tigray(TPLF). This is the distinct disadvantage of Amhara. Amhara’s have single personality. Basically, there are two advantages the Tigres enjoy (although it is naturally to their own disadvantage as we see it now). The topography and their exclusive Tigrigna and Amharic skill. These are that have been fighting in favor for them - holding constant the external force involvement and the internal saboteurs. You want TPLF kissing the dust, you have one last chance that is Eritrea.

2) Tigray will not be safe for Tigres as long as TPLF is with them. Note, several Tigres implored/begged/ Eritrean force not to abandon them for TPLF. Thus, there is time someone has to pause and ponder what is morally obligatory to bring durable peace Tigres, even if the Tigres themselves are ignorant of not knowing what is good for them.

3) I am confident if Eritrea defeated TPLF, it would never take an inch of land from Tigray beyond what is not legally of hers. And even if they have an upper hand, they do not want to inherit conflict by illegally annexing. So, Eritrea has the right to ensure no more invasion from TPLF anymore. It is illogical to ask Eritrea to stand on the border and repulse TPLF every day frequently. Why babysit? The stupid strategy now PP-OLF adopting of parking ENDF(OLA) at Amhara land of Raya Qobo and engage in everyday repulsing of TPLF until better deal with TPLF reached is pure nonsense. It could be okay for Abiy Ahmed but should not be oaky for Eritrea, even if I am an Ethiopian any rational person does not recommend what has happened the innocent people of Wollo Amhara should happen to the ordinary people of Eritrea. The major mission of TPLF is revenge if there is a single day it can reach somewhere in Eritrea its goal is to do what it did to the Wollo people - whom the Arat Kilo Jal Mero sacrificed them to the thugs. This war should not leave to an open calendar – it should be concluded, and the people and the region has to go back to common agenda of economic development.

4) As we know Eritrea has never been off the hook from Western countries. The only way to unhook herself is clinching victory by defeating TPLF. Let’s differentiate these two : defeating TPLF does not mean defeating Tigre – in the truest sense mean freedom of Tigre or Tigray province. There is a saying in Amharic if a guest is thankless to the cups of milk you have given, he will ever remain thankless even if you give that person the cow with its calf. Eritrea tolerated the raining of missiles from TPLF and TPLF is bragging to go destroy and ethnic cleanse them, so what should they do?

5) When you see now the Arat Kilo Jal Mero going after Amhara Fano instead of TPLF, do not you suspect the Arat Kilo Jalmero might ship heavy artilleries and supplies to enable TPLF? የ4ኪሎ ጃልመሮ የአማራን ወገብ ጠምጥሞ ሲይዝ ማንን እየረዳ ይመስልሃል። ወገብ ጠምጥሞ የሚይዝ ሃይል መሳርያ አያቀብልም ብሎ መጠርጠር ሞኝነት አይሆንም ወይ?


6) Assuming Tigray given TPLF is a run way underage child who should be responsible for the bad behvior and damages this run away child caused? His/her parents or the Child? In this case the parent is the so-called Ethiopian “government”. Why is the Ethiopian government silent and the Western world are so becoming the guardian parent of TPLF? Is silent not an agreement? The other thing you underlined is Ethiopia and her interest. To be honest, Ethiopia existed in our hearts and mind, but on the ground, it has not existed for the last 30 years. Anyone who lived in Ethiopia for the last 30 years certainly feels he is not a citizen of that country. If we need country that we have hear in our hearts and minds, we need to demolish the TPLF’s legacy and its PP-OLF guardian. Anything less than that is useless.

Abere,
There is no need to call for Eritrea to take over Mekele. Ethiopians should stay out of this kind of drum beating.

It is because of the PP government that TPLF is behaving the way they behave. This war should have been ended a year ago decisively. By now all the TPLF leaders should have been either dead or imprisoned. The PP administration is a joke. Incompetent is an understatement.

You never know where the escalation of war will take you. As weak as the PP government, if Eritrea invaded then it will open up the possibility of foreign intervention and that is what the TPLF is looking for.

Believe me this government is embarrassing. It called two unilateral ceasefire in a fight with a rag tag TPLF. It couldn’t finish the TPLF, instead secretly negotiated and released Sebhat Nega.

So, be carefully. I mean if a foreign intervention is engineered by Americans, a TPLF lead Tigrai might end up with a sea outlet before Ethiopia. That is how horrible the situation is.

This group in charge of Ethiopia are garbages. A 10 grand suite and expensive haircut cut that is ally they know.

[Meleket]

ዛይስንኻ ሑጻ ቖርጥመሉ!

[Right]

Abere,
Noted that you are looking at from a different angle.As we all know the best solutions would have been for Ethiopia to get it done. Just decimate TPLF. Kill or arrest their criminal leaders, dismantle the TPLF brutality and liberate the Tigrains and the Horn of Africa. Under the PP leadership that is not going to happen. Instead they gave life to TPLF.
All I am saying is that do not trust the Eritreans. Our hate to the TPLF should not distract us from the fact that They are equally bad or criminals. They left 125 million people unjustly and by manipulation landlocked.

[Sadacha Macca]

Ejecting a government or political movement that has popularity in their home state, is not as easy as making a post on an internet forum.
It would require the genocide of millions, which is not possible, rational, or morally correct.
Whether any of us like it or not, the TPLF is popular in Tigray, and the recent conflicts only cemented that popularity, because a nation that feels under siege will unite for their survival, and won't have the luxury of entertaining the idea of a new party or movement taking power, when their very existence is at stake, not to mention TPLF is well established in Tigray and many families have former members of it/martyr family members. No other party can boast of having the same history in Tigray.

Eritrea, even with its strong defense forces, cannot root out an idea, or an ideology from the minds of millions, but of course, in a conventional war, 1 on 1, they can wipe out the TPLF forces, but winning over hearts and minds is what determines such things that you advocate for. Even if you take out the few remaining tplf leaders, they'll have a new tplf, that will lead their people in a guerrilla war, that will bleed the already broke and poor Ethiopian state, and of course, eritrea is wise enough not to waste too much blood and treasure on an investment with little return.

Superpowers failed in Afghanistan and elsewhere, for similar reasons, despite having superior armaments. You fight ideas with better ideas, and you fight armies with superior armies; each having its distinct field of battle-one in the minds and hearts, and one on plains, mountains, etc.
Tigrayans either need a new party, that balances advocating for and struggling for the interests of tigray, while not aggressing against their neighbors, or face the current predicament for the foreseeable future.

The best thing the governments of both countries can do, is keep their forces trained, and ready for any eventualities, and keep the borders around Tigray under careful watch, and Abiy definitely failed the Afar and Amhara states, by letting TPLF get that far, but a lot of it is attributed to the poor state of the ENDF which was dominated by ethnic tigrayans, especially the top positions, for so long, that it will take years to restructure itself.
You don't train generals overnight, or even in a year or so, and the top generals with most of the war experience in the ENDF, were tigrayans, due to the corrupt, nepotism of the TPLF led EPRDF, for decades. So, yeah, it's a lot more complex than ''just send the strong eritrean forces in to fight.''

[Right]

Sadcha,
It is because of PP’s weakness the TPLF is there.
Abiye is babysitting the TPLF.

[Abere]

You are entitled to your opinion as am I. The point is when you stated "The best thing the governments of both countries can do" what do you mean? Tigray and Eritrea? Ethiopia now has no control over it, Tigray is a runaway spoiled child. The TPLF in fact has been fighting with Eritrea for long, when, and where do you want the war to stop? Your analogy of Tigray with Afghanistan is an apple and orange comparison. Unless you are referring Tigray is the Afghanistan of Ethiopia bullied by terrorist TPLF. For the last 2 years, Tigray is cut off from basic services such as education and health, the most basic of all. It is immoral to keep the children of Tigres out of school indefinitely and expect the 99.7% illiterate farmers who can't read and write can make wise choice for their lives and their family. Farmers are innocent people they follow when some who claims even to have 3 grade education. Tigre people are just brainwashed and lost millions in the recent war in Amhara and Afar. And it is also unthinkable to allow TPLF as an organization to exist and lead Tigray. Tigre lives will be unsafe as long as TPLF lives with them. Thus, TPLF has to be removed by any means possible. Given the current situation, the Ethiopian “government” is very opportunistic and does not want to defeat TPLF ( for its own ethnic apartheid goal). Thus, it is in the best interest of Eritrea and Ethiopia, for Eritrea to take care of TPLF once and for all. Neither Eritrea nor Ethiopia can afford a war with an open calendar - especially where external powers are itching for something as time goes on. I want Eritrea to score a stealthy quick and effective victory over TPLF. If Eritrea buys more time, the opportunity will be squandered, especially the invader and aggressor is rebel TPL. Let's differentiate, again, defeating TPLF from helping Tigres and us all. I admire a result-based management/leadership or critique not otherwise.

Ejecting a government or political movement that has popularity in their home state, is not as easy as making a post on an internet forum.
It would require the genocide of millions, which is not possible, rational, or morally correct.
Whether any of us like it or not, the TPLF is popular in Tigray, and the recent conflicts only cemented that popularity, because a nation that feels under siege will unite for their survival, and won't have the luxury of entertaining the idea of a new party or movement taking power, when their very existence is at stake, not to mention TPLF is well established in Tigray and many families have former members of it/martyr family members. No other party can boast of having the same history in Tigray.

Eritrea, even with its strong defense forces, cannot root out an idea, or an ideology from the minds of millions, but of course, in a conventional war, 1 on 1, they can wipe out the TPLF forces, but winning over hearts and minds is what determines such things that you advocate for.
Superpowers failed in Afghanistan and elsewhere, for similar reasons, despite having superior armaments. You fight ideas with better ideas, and you fight armies with superior armies; each having its distinct field of battle-one in the minds and hearts, and one on plains, mountains, etc.
Tigrayans either need a new party, that balances advocating for and struggling for the interests of tigray, while not aggressing against their neighbors, or face the current predicament for the foreseeable future.

The best thing the governments of both countries can do, is keep their forces trained, and ready for any eventualities, and keep the borders around Tigray under careful watch, and Abiy definitely failed the Afar and Amhara states, by letting TPLF get that far, but a lot of it is attributed to the poor state of the ENDF which was dominated by ethnic tigrayans, especially the top positions, for so long, that it will take years to restructure itself.
You don't train generals overnight, or even in a year or so, and the top generals with most of the war experience in the ENDF, were tigrayans, due to the corrupt, nepotism of the TPLF led EPRDF, for decades. So, yeah, it's a lot more complex than ''just send the strong eritrean forces in to fight.''

[Abere]

A poisonous snake picked up by an Eagle is a much better relief than wishing another snake to prey upon it. Only Eritrea can feed upon TPLF - the disease of Tigray and Ethiopia at large. This is just my take.

[Sadacha Macca]

You are entitled to your opinion as am I. The point is when you stated "The best thing the governments of both countries can do" what do you mean? Tigray and Eritrea? Ethiopia now has no control over it, Tigray is a runaway spoiled child. The TPLF in fact has been fighting with Eritrea for long, when, and where do you want the war to stop? Your analogy of Tigray with Afghanistan is an apple and orange comparison. Unless you are referring Tigray is the Afghanistan of Ethiopia bullied by terrorist TPLF. For the last 2 years, Tigray is cut off from basic services such as education and health, the most basic of all. It is immoral to keep the children of Tigres out of school indefinitely and expect the 99.7% illiterate farmers who can't read and write can make wise choice for their lives and their family. Farmers are innocent people they follow when some who claims even to have 3 grade education. Tigre people are just brainwashed and lost millions in the recent war in Amhara and Afar. And it is also unthinkable to allow TPLF as an organization to exist and lead Tigray. Tigre lives will be unsafe as long as TPLF lives with them. Thus, TPLF has to be removed by any means possible. Given the current situation, the Ethiopian “government” is very opportunistic and does not want to defeat TPLF ( for its own ethnic apartheid goal). Thus, it is in the best interest of Eritrea and Ethiopia, for Eritrea to take care of TPLF once and for all. Neither Eritrea nor Ethiopia can afford a war with an open calendar - especially where external powers are itching for something as time goes on. I want Eritrea to score a stealthy quick and effective victory over TPLF. If Eritrea buys more time, the opportunity will be squandered, especially the invader and aggressor is rebel TPL. Let's differentiate, again, defeating TPLF from helping Tigres and us all. I admire a result-based management/leadership or critique not otherwise.

Ejecting a government or political movement that has popularity in their home state, is not as easy as making a post on an internet forum.
It would require the genocide of millions, which is not possible, rational, or morally correct.
Whether any of us like it or not, the TPLF is popular in Tigray, and the recent conflicts only cemented that popularity, because a nation that feels under siege will unite for their survival, and won't have the luxury of entertaining the idea of a new party or movement taking power, when their very existence is at stake, not to mention TPLF is well established in Tigray and many families have former members of it/martyr family members. No other party can boast of having the same history in Tigray.

Eritrea, even with its strong defense forces, cannot root out an idea, or an ideology from the minds of millions, but of course, in a conventional war, 1 on 1, they can wipe out the TPLF forces, but winning over hearts and minds is what determines such things that you advocate for.
Superpowers failed in Afghanistan and elsewhere, for similar reasons, despite having superior armaments. You fight ideas with better ideas, and you fight armies with superior armies; each having its distinct field of battle-one in the minds and hearts, and one on plains, mountains, etc.
Tigrayans either need a new party, that balances advocating for and struggling for the interests of tigray, while not aggressing against their neighbors, or face the current predicament for the foreseeable future.

The best thing the governments of both countries can do, is keep their forces trained, and ready for any eventualities, and keep the borders around Tigray under careful watch, and Abiy definitely failed the Afar and Amhara states, by letting TPLF get that far, but a lot of it is attributed to the poor state of the ENDF which was dominated by ethnic tigrayans, especially the top positions, for so long, that it will take years to restructure itself.
You don't train generals overnight, or even in a year or so, and the top generals with most of the war experience in the ENDF, were tigrayans, due to the corrupt, nepotism of the TPLF led EPRDF, for decades. So, yeah, it's a lot more complex than ''just send the strong eritrean forces in to fight.''

I used facts to substantiate my claims and cited examples, such as Afghanistan and elsewhere, where central governments, with allies such as superpowers with vastly superior arms, still LOST in the end. What did you use to substantiate your claims? Facts? Examples? No and, No.
It's an analogy, because like in Afghanistan, where the central government with its ally [the West], tried to wipe out a group labelled as a terrorist, they couldn't; even with the direct participation of a super power/various superpowers too.
TPLF, after retreating to its home base, is no longer a ''bully'' to the rest of Ethiopia, as long as it stays within Tigray's borders, it wouldn't be a bully-as it was when it ruled from the center, Addis Ababa; it instead transitioned from a terrorist bully, to a terrorist movement in its home-base where it has support from the locals, despite being outnumbered and out-gunned by its government and neighbors- similar to the case in Afghanistan, albeit with some differences in sizes of the countries, the armaments of the neighbors fighting it, and the central government fighting it, etc.
In this case, despite the differences in several things/factors:
Abiy would be the Afghani president, except that, he has enough local support apparently, and enough armed forces, to remain in power for now.
The crumbled ENDF, would be the Afghan army, except that it is no longer intact and as efficient as it was before, due to the corruption in the armed forces that saw the tigrayans only be the top leaders and get the best training.
Taliban would be TPLF, except it only operates in one state for the most part, and due to its popularity there, it can survive for the time being.



You said Abiy has reasons for not ''wiping out TPLF,'' when in reality, he would fail and take the country down with him, as Mengistu did, if he were to try to commit to another decade or multi-decade war, which of course benefits those who hate Abiy so much that they don't mind if he goes down, even if the countries economy and stability potentially worsen and go down with him, such as yourself, but those who are not blinded by emotions, such as yourself, see that, despite his many flaws and mistakes, Abiy was wise to not continue fighting an unwinnable war. You can not fight your way out of every problem. This type of attitude is one reason why Ethiopia has been caught up in back to back civil wars and conflicts, since its inception; when did it ever have some peace?


Is Tigray fighting Eritrea now? Are there ongoing conflicts between the two? If so, prove it, otherwise, the Eritreans here themselves would have discussed it. You said Amhara's can do it alone, without help, which is fine; but did you consult with Amhara's and ask if they want more nonstop wars with their neighbors? More TPLF soldiers in Lalibela, Wallo, elsewhere, seeking to take out their desire for revenge on their women and children? Or, should they just fight nonstop wars to satisfy YOUR desire and opinions?

The best point you made is regards to the basic services in Tigray, this is where the internal movement of Tigrayans needs to strengthen itself to either: make a new party, as I said, that is strong enough to garner support from within to topple TPLF, work with its neighbors, and the federal government, to resume those services; OR, do it on their own since they are choosing TPLF over Ethiopia. Any movement from the outside to impose its will on Tigray, or any nation determined to not be enslaved or be dictated to by others; is bound to fail. It failed elsewhere and will fail there, too.

Eritrea can score a win, only in conventional warfare though... as you said, but it will just lead to more wars, it won't end with the defeat of the tplf remnants or their remaining elites... it will only drive thousands and thousands more of them to the forests and mountains to fight another 10 years or more.... this is what you're failing to comprehend...they will simply see it as a foreign invasion and stand with whomever is in power, in this case the TPLF, and fight against what they perceive as an attack on their entire nation and survival... it's not as simple as ''fight, win fast and it's over''...no, far from it!

[Abere]

--- I am just wondering how you imagined TPLF as if it were a formidable force whose life really depends on food aid. The only reason why TPLF has been breathing is due to the OLF in the current “government". TPLF has neither the courage to stand a good fight nor the means to stay. It is just an ordinary village rebel by accident of history and coincidence robbed power last time, largely due to Shabia.
---- When you stated, "You said Abiy has reasons for not ''wiping out TPLF,'' when in reality, he would fail and take the country down with him, as Mengistu did, if he were to try to commit to another decade or multi-decade war..."
The truth is, Mengistu Hailemariam left Ethiopia in a much better situation than now where the country is going through. This is another apple and orange comparison. Ethiopians felt much safer by then than they are now.

--- You are asking the obvious question. The mouthpiece of TPLF, Getachew Reda, has been reporting to his foreign bosses they are attacking Eritrea troops. Although tens of thousands of TPF rag tags fallen like the leaves of an oak tree in the fall season. Yes, TPLF launched war against Eritrea. You want to condemn it?
--- The only thing that liken TPLF with Afghan Taliban is they both are terrorists other than that each has its own size, nature, context, and potential. TPLF is simply a village level bandit. It can be taken care of. Who can take of it? not a crawling another snake, we need an Eagle. An Eagle swift, strong, has the claw and tenacity to catch from its hole.

I used facts to substantiate my claims and cited examples, such as Afghanistan and elsewhere, where central governments, with allies such as superpowers with vastly superior arms, still LOST in the end. What did you use to substantiate your claims? Facts? Examples? No and, No.
It's an analogy, because like in Afghanistan, where the central government with its ally [the West], tried to wipe out a group labelled as a terrorist, they couldn't; even with the direct participation of a super power/various superpowers too.
TPLF, after retreating to its home base, is no longer a ''bully'' to the rest of Ethiopia, as long as it stays within Tigray's borders, it wouldn't be a bully-as it was when it ruled from the center, Addis Ababa; it instead transitioned from a terrorist bully, to a terrorist movement in its home-base where it has support from the locals, despite being outnumbered and out-gunned by its government and neighbors- similar to the case in Afghanistan, albeit with some differences in sizes of the countries, the armaments of the neighbors fighting it, and the central government fighting it, etc.
In this case, despite the differences in several things/factors:
Abiy would be the Afghani president, except that, he has enough local support apparently, and enough armed forces, to remain in power for now.
The crumbled ENDF, would be the Afghan army, except that it is no longer intact and as efficient as it was before, due to the corruption in the armed forces that saw the tigrayans only be the top leaders and get the best training.
Taliban would be TPLF, except it only operates in one state for the most part, and due to its popularity there, it can survive for the time being.



You said Abiy has reasons for not ''wiping out TPLF,'' when in reality, he would fail and take the country down with him, as Mengistu did, if he were to try to commit to another decade or multi-decade war, which of course benefits those who hate Abiy so much that they don't mind if he goes down, even if the countries economy and stability potentially worsen and go down with him, such as yourself, but those who are not blinded by emotions, such as yourself, see that, despite his many flaws and mistakes, Abiy was wise to not continue fighting an unwinnable war. You can not fight your way out of every problem. This type of attitude is one reason why Ethiopia has been caught up in back to back civil wars and conflicts, since its inception; when did it ever have some peace?


Is Tigray fighting Eritrea now? Are there ongoing conflicts between the two? If so, prove it, otherwise, the Eritreans here themselves would have discussed it. You said Amhara's can do it alone, without help, which is fine; but did you consult with Amhara's and ask if they want more nonstop wars with their neighbors? More TPLF soldiers in Lalibela, Wallo, elsewhere, seeking to take out their desire for revenge on their women and children? Or, should they just fight nonstop wars to satisfy YOUR desire and opinions?

The best point you made is regards to the basic services in Tigray, this is where the internal movement of Tigrayans needs to strengthen itself to either: make a new party, as I said, that is strong enough to garner support from within to topple TPLF, work with its neighbors, and the federal government, to resume those services; OR, do it on their own since they are choosing TPLF over Ethiopia. Any movement from the outside to impose its will on Tigray, or any nation determined to not be enslaved or be dictated to by others; is bound to fail. It failed elsewhere and will fail there, too.

Eritrea can score a win, only in conventional warfare though... as you said, but it will just lead to more wars, it won't end with the defeat of the tplf remnants or their remaining elites... it will only drive thousands and thousands more of them to the forests and mountains to fight another 10 years or more.... this is what you're failing to comprehend...they will simply see it as a foreign invasion and stand with whomever is in power, in this case the TPLF, and fight against what they perceive as an attack on their entire nation and survival... it's not as simple as ''fight, win fast and it's over''...no, far from it!