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[MINILIK]

Pol Pot disarmed the population of Cambodia through gun control. And then managed to kill off nearly 25% of his own population. all in the name of law enforcement. Despite the start of the war by the TPLF, the people of Tigray suffered and became victims of the ''law enforcement'' as well. If you want to die fighting, do not let yourself be slaughtered like a flock of sheep, or that is to say, don't give up your arm. Eritrean troops being involved in Ethiopia is extremely dangerous; I'm afraid it's even more dangerous for Eritreans. By sending troops to the Tigray region, they are basically telling us, that we can also interfere in Eritrean internal affairs and send troops to change the government.

Nevertheless, the current law enforcement in amhara region will be the end of Abiy's government. Not only the majority of Oromo don't care for him, but they also resent him for killing Hachalu. People who suffered and made the ultimate sacrifice were Afar and Amhara. Nevertheless, he waged a new war front against Amhara fano in addition to abandoning both of them in time of need. We have a tribal mindset...Us against them... Kill or be killed...and we became addicted to the violent lifestyle. Our war strategies are barbaric and outdated, Our government became a predator of the poor instead of a protector. we need to change that, united against the dictatorial government!!

[Right]

Still, a great deal of the population specially of Addis, naive or deliberate, allowing itself to be fooled by fake speech of this narcissistic PM. But slowly it will come in everybody’s door step regardless of ethnicity, class or gender. That is how tyranny functions.
The cost of living is astronomically high compared to the national economy, debts is unbelievably high and borrowed money is wasted and then there is a war - kidnapping and killings.
Get rid off this idiot with his ethnic politics before it is too late.

[MINILIK]

Still, a great deal of the population specially of Addis, naive or deliberate, allowing itself to be fooled by fake speech of this narcissistic PM. But slowly it will come in everybody’s door step regardless of ethnicity, class or gender. That is how tyranny functions.
The cost of living is astronomically high compared to the national economy, debts is unbelievably high and borrowed money is wasted and then there is a war - kidnapping and killings.
Get rid off this idiot with his ethnic politics before it is too late.

“Whether it is North Korea, Sierra Leone, or Zimbabwe, well show that poor countries are poor for the same reason that Egypt is poor. Countries such as Great Britain and the United States became rich because their citizens overthrew the elites who controlled power and created a society where political rights were much more broadly distributed, where the government was accountable and responsive to citizens, and where the great mass of people could take advantage of economic opportunities.” Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty by Daron Acemoğlu

The elites are the main problem. In order to protect their economic and political interests, they support dictators and make our people's lives very difficult. The truth is that some of them hold personal grudges toward specific ethnic groups and spread nothing but poison. Ethiopians need to understand that and rise up against the leeching elites. it's very difficult but not impossible. look around you, their children are the ones fueling this war. It wasn't so long ago they supported TPLF and manipulated Ethiopians to go to war with Eritrea. Now the same people tell us to support Shabia and fight for them. all in the name of ETHIOPIA.

[Fiyameta]

When rockets fired from Ethiopian territories land on populated areas in Eritrea, my country Eritrea is within its inherent rights to take military actions as deemed fit. Our Eritrean Defense Forces are NOT doing this for you Ethiopians, but for the Eritrean people whom they are sworn to defend and protect by any means necessary.

BTW, we are not involved in your internal conflicts, and nor are we occupying any part of your territories. But know this: for any terrorist attacks targeting Eritrea which are launched from Ethiopian territories, our Eritrean Defense Forces will cross the border ጥርሳቸውን እየፋቁ and annihilate the entire terrorist group without making a sound. Trust me, it's not a threat, it's a promise. There is nothing more dangerous than the conscience reinforced by the belief that applying different rules for the same situation is a fair game. IT IS NOT! Get yourself out of the ዘመነ መሳፍንት mindset!

[MINILIK]

When rockets fired from Ethiopian territories land on populated areas in Eritrea, my country Eritrea is within its inherent rights to take military actions as deemed fit. Our Eritrean Defense Forces are NOT doing this for you Ethiopians, but for the Eritrean people whom they are sworn to defend and protect by any means necessary.

BTW, we are not involved in your internal conflicts, and nor are we occupying any part of your territories. But know this: for any terrorist attacks targeting Eritrea which are launched from Ethiopian territories, our Eritrean Defense Forces will cross the border ጥርሳቸውን እየፋቁ and annihilate the entire terrorist group without making a sound. Trust me, it's not a threat, it's a promise. There is nothing more dangerous than the conscience reinforced by the belief that applying different rules for the same situation is a fair game. IT IS NOT! Get yourself out of the ዘመነ መሳፍንት mindset!

We both know the Eritrean army is not capable of conducting such operations in Tigray. In 1952 Eritrea has given a constitution under the Ethiopian crown. The king didn't get, what federation means. Not only did he undermine the Eritrean assembly but also stripped them from their power. 1962 the Eritrean assembly members voted to dissolve the federation. how many innocent people died since then because of one man's greed?

Eritrea was attacked by the TPLF to get involved in this war. After years of killing and torturing innocent ethiopian, the same people made the first move against Eritrea to get sympathy out of the international community. white men know the truth more than you know. Like many wars supervised by the CIA, Tigray's war also follow the same pattern. Use civilians as the shield to cry genocide and get justification for what comes next. They are no good fighters, nor are there any good war strategists, but westerners own them as slaves. you need more than a bullet to defeat them.

[Right]

There is such thing called Eritrea on paper only. Stop this nonsense. Period.

In that area which the Italians called Eritrea (a Roman Empire town in Europe) there are about 9 ethnic groups. Historically there have been the Kingdom of Afar stretching the coastal line deep into Ethiopia. It is the only ethnic group that functioned organized as a state.

The Tigregna speaking Hamasseins (up in the mountains and landlocked) manipulated and created all this s$h$it.
The Afars are as the victims of this massive Arab funded fraud with the main goal is to blackmail Ethiopia.

And today these same criminals flooded Ethiopia to [deleted] her blood. They can easily mingle with Ethiopians because culturally they have the most in common. It is not the Afars, not the Kunamas & off course not the Erobs trying to extort Ethiopia.
The PP team is garbage and believe me they will play them like toys. These two groups of Tigries aren’t good. Don’t think for a second that the Eritreans are fighting the TPLF for Ethiopia. That is BS. They are fighting them because they won’t let them share the loot.
Ethiopians be careful. People like Dr Birr, Andy, Neamin,Epherem Mandebo, DawdIbisa - who are promoting Eritrea, these are all hired agents of Eritrea.

[Fiyameta]

When rockets fired from Ethiopian territories land on populated areas in Eritrea, my country Eritrea is within its inherent rights to take military actions as deemed fit. Our Eritrean Defense Forces are NOT doing this for you Ethiopians, but for the Eritrean people whom they are sworn to defend and protect by any means necessary.

BTW, we are not involved in your internal conflicts, and nor are we occupying any part of your territories. But know this: for any terrorist attacks targeting Eritrea which are launched from Ethiopian territories, our Eritrean Defense Forces will cross the border ጥርሳቸውን እየፋቁ and annihilate the entire terrorist group without making a sound. Trust me, it's not a threat, it's a promise. There is nothing more dangerous than the conscience reinforced by the belief that applying different rules for the same situation is a fair game. IT IS NOT! Get yourself out of the ዘመነ መሳፍንት mindset!

We both know the Eritrean army is not capable of conducting such operations in Tigray. In 1952 Eritrea has given a constitution under the Ethiopian crown. The king didn't get, what federation means. Not only did he undermine the Eritrean assembly but also stripped them from their power. 1962 the Eritrean assembly members voted to dissolve the federation. how many innocent people died since then because of one man's greed?

Eritrea was attacked by the TPLF to get involved in this war. After years of killing and torturing innocent ethiopian, the same people made the first move against Eritrea to get sympathy out of the international community. white men know the truth more than you know. Like many wars supervised by the CIA, Tigray's war also follow the same pattern. Use civilians as the shield to cry genocide and get justification for what comes next. They are no good fighters, nor are there any good war strategists, but westerners own them as slaves. you need more than a bullet to defeat them.

Please speak for yourself, as I don't know what you know.

But what I know is this: our Eritrean Defense forces always wear a poker face to keep the enemy guessing. Just like the crocodile that remains under water as the prey approaches the water edge, then explode out of the water to grab the hapless prey, the Eritrean Defense Forces also operate in the same way. There's great advantage in leading the enemy into thinking that you are "incapable" of defending yourself, then have the last laugh when you take them into deep water and drown them! Military strategists call it the element of surprise, and we Eritreans are full of surprises for those who cross us.

You're contradicting yourself when speaking about the US imposed federation, and consequent annexation of Eritrea, by giving credit to the devil-worshiping mindless poodle named Haile Selassie, who couldn't even feed his own subjects, let alone conquer the civilized people and nation next door.

One of the mechanism world powers used to effectively make Ethiopia a complacent colony was to pervert the minds of the Ethiopian elite class with imagined realities, so as they become unwitting tools of colonialism, and that of their own oppression. They were so enamored by their own oppression that they could not see the white boot prints on their faces... well until 1991 when the TPLF terrorist group came to power donning the white boot prints on their faces as a badge of honor and it made the Ethiopian elite cringe with jealousy, but all they had to do was stand in front of the mirror to see the same white boot prints on their faces. Change starts with the man in the mirror......

[MINILIK]

''Ask anybody what Ethiopian culture is? Ask anybody what the Ethiopian language is? Ask about what Ethiopian religion is? Ask about what the national dress is? it is either Amhara or Tigray or Amhara-Tigray!! To be a ''genuine'' Ethiopian one has to listen to Amharic music, accept the Amhara-Tigray religion, Orthodox Christianity, to wear the Amhara-Tigray shamma in the international conferences. In some cases, to be an ''Ethiopian'' you will even have to change your name. In short, to be an Ethiopian, you will have to wear an Amhara mask.'' .........well, Wallelign Mekonnen wrote that. He felt the pain of his people deeply. Wallelign himself was Amhara, yet, he was talking about the very few Amhara and Tigray elites. I found Ethiopian elites astonishingly self-centered. regardless of their ethnic groups, they are all the same. Some are overt racists. Some have been pretty well brainwashed. We need someone like Wallelign who can tell us about our past mistakes, and what to do to correct them!!!

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Minilik,
Walelgne? Sew Tera bilut…
Your name is misleading. Do you really believe Ethiopia was a prison for the many colourful ethnic group as Walelegne pointed out and Jawar loves to quote him? Really. Amharas as the engineer and implementer of the prison.
Pick a highlander peasant of the time in Gonder, another Peasant from central Ethiopia Gojjam and another one from Western Ethiopia Welega and South Bale Goba. There was no difference whatsoever in the way they make a living or living standards. But calling the Amaharic speaker peasant as an oppressor and punish them for it, and calling the other languages speakers the oppressed and reward them accordingly is one of the biggest crime of the century. EPRP. It is one of Gemal Abdul Nasser of Egypt creations and it worked well. It worked because we are collectively posses lower IQ.
I can go on explaining the role of language and religion and about the ruling class of the time the real oppressors but it is a waste of time. May be in another life when Ethiopians rise up to the level of other human beings around the world.
What about focusing on the universally accepted principle of individual right instead of this group right nonsense? Well, first we have first to evolve collectively by developing our thinking power. Until then enjoy your war and wheat donations.

[MINILIK]

The civil rights movement would have probably gotten nowhere without white support. During the 1950s and 1960s, many whites, often Jewish, fought for black civil rights. Fighting for rights and equality does not require membership in a specific group of people. Tplf and the rest of the tribalistic mafia groups can't even comprehend Walelgne's idea of freedom and equality. he was talking about the elites of Amhara and Tigray. never the poor peasants! for that, I can't forgive TPLF. And so, we must fight TPLF to the bitter end. But, the elites pushed our country into unending civil war and chaos. Our responsibility is to take control of the situation and stand against inequality and tribalistic mentality. We must learn to think for ourselves, our blind nationalism costing us way more than we can afford.

[Right]

Go back and re-read Walelegne Mekonen’s writing before attempting to spit something you don’t understand.
You can’t oppose the TPLF & EPLF while supporting Walelegne’S ideas if you can call it an Idea. All his ideas AKA nations and Nationalities that was directly copied from the then Soviet Union leader Joseph S.
Look, when Walelegne high Jacked Airplane, the people who encouraged him, trained him and later received the survivals in Khartoum was the JEBHAs. That tells you where the root of the problem was. And if you believe there exists a nation and nationality and correlation with Eritrea then either I am wasting my time with a poisonous person deliberately spitting venoms or a complete ignorant.
Democracy is based on individual right and so is a republic.
A civil right movement is a movement that advocates for equal rights of all citizens regardless of race, ethnicity and all other dividing factors. In other words individual right.
Your group is blabbering about a group right.
You would think your group of the 60s evolved or by now they will think properly. But evidently NO.
Please find your mate. Sarcasm or Jawar M. Or Dawd Ibisa or Getachew Reda.

[ethiopianunity]

Right,

The Eprp is the inception of Eplf read Assefa Chabo book from Gamo and seems to make sense. In order to affect Ethiopia the war against Ethiopia and the kingdom was not just by one way but multi faceted. If some tell the real story which they will not howaffecting Ethiopia was orchestrated. Those who called themselves Ethiopian participated against the king and Ethiopia because at the time Eplf fighting for separation was secret and was not popular. They( Ethiopians) thought they are bringing better system than kingdom. Hahaha, all l can say, the goal is actually to break Ethiopia and not yet better system than king era. In fact we are going the wrong way and l. Giving current govt the benefit of the doubt.

Isayass' uncle ruled Wello during H Selassie. Isayas went to school in Wello and was recruited by foreigners. jebha ( Muslim Brotherhood funded by Egypt and it's offices there was the start of Eplf) That is why Eritreans and Isayas created Ehapa from all ethnic groups in Wello and programmed there. At the same time Tplf was born working with Eplf. Ehapa infiltrated easily the young and university students that destabilized Ethiopia with their movement. My questions is how Derg was created, l think was created by " friendly" foreigners to overthrow the kingdom via Kasa Tesema and his relative brainwashed Mengist H Mariam? at the same time Eplf was mobilising against Ethiopia. Was there connection between Derg and Eplf? Maybe through their common foreign advisers, maybe they might have connection through Aman Andom? It might be secret. So destabilising Ethiopia was from many directions and worked. It also makes sense why and who started Wello famine? Uhm. Do you really thinking it was H Selassie? No.

[MINILIK]

From OLF to EPLF they had a legitimate reason to pick up arms. In Ethiopia, those who pretend to know everything are among the most dangerous creatures. Not only do they mislead people but also they have a delusional mindset. In 1962 within one month period of time, Ethiopian government killed more than 450 people in Eritrea. burnt down 62 villages, and about 60,000 cattle, and camels were slaughtered with machine guns. (the international dimension battle of eritrea p,126-7) Between 1978 and 1980 more than 70,000 civilians and combatants were killed. There are countless examples of Ethiopian government atrocities against innocent civilians in Eritrea. Yet, these people are labeled as the enemy of ethiopia. it's not a crime to defend yourself. it displays a level of insensitivity and ignorance of the history

if we don't change the way we think, we will lose Ethiopia for good. I firmly believe in federalism. It should be the right of every province or region to govern itself. Every time someone mentions Walelegn's name, there are lots of negative reactions. Walelegn was a pioneer. he told the truth, but he didn't make it clear he was talking about the Amhara elites, not the poor amhara peasants. This gives some people a chance to claim victimhood. nevertheless, it's our backward mentality making our country a living hell.

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Ethiopiaunity,
You clearly understood the root cause of the problem. One thing you missed out here is - who created JEBHA. That is where the Arab connections spearheaded by Egypt.
Again, Eritrea is not a tribe or an ethnic group as the EPRP and TPLF thought the youth of the time. Of all political parties in Ethiopia, the EPRP & TPLF are the most destructive to the people of Ethiopia. You clearly pointed out that they are the creation of JEBHA.
Briefly, in that region the Italians named Eritrea (a Roman empire’s town in Europe), there are about 9 ethnic groups. Of these 9, only the Afars have a history of organized statehood. Their territory stretches from the tip of present day Eritrea all the way down the coastal line deep in Ethiopia. Of the 9, only the Tigregna speaking AKA Hamasseins (the cousins of the Adwa Tigrai) are hostile to Ethiopia. The Afars,Erobs,Kunamas etc will never hurt Ethiopia. The Hamasseins are the real landlocked ethnic group up in the mountains. But using their connections to the Arabs and Italians they were able to destabilize the region which they believe is beneficial to them. They dominated the political and the leadership role of present day Eritrea. They breakup the Afar brothers, they colluded with TPLF and draw a fake map putting one brother of the Afars 60 km off the coast of the Red Sea to landlock Ethiopia And this is the crime of a century which they will never escape.
Just watch, in our lifetime time we will see how this manipulation fails spectacularly. The Hamasseins have the most in common with Ethiopians, by using the good nature of Ethiopians blackmailed Ethiopia by landlocking 125 mil.

[MINILIK]

Our number one problem right now is, that we don't have enough politicians to lead the people of Amhara. The elites of Amhara care very little about their people. Amhara and Oromo must again join forces. That's the only way to save Ethiopia. Abiy will never give up the power that easily, we have to take him out by force. he rules by terror now, we can't have him around any longer. Menelik and Gobana's swords created modern Ethiopia, the time has come for another Amhara and Oromo amalgamation under true federalism. Amhara nationalism has to develop and work with Oromo nationalists. Only then can we break the never-ending cycle of war and famine.

[sarcasm]

Our number one problem right now is, that we don't have enough politicians to lead the people of Amhara. The elites of Amhara care very little about their people. Amhara and Oromo must again join forces. That's the only way to save Ethiopia. Abiy will never give up the power that easily, we have to take him out by force. he rules by terror now, we can't have him around any longer. Menelik and Gobana's swords created modern Ethiopia, the time has come for another Amhara and Oromo amalgamation under true federalism. Amhara nationalism has to develop and work with Oromo nationalists. Only then can we break the never-ending cycle of war and famine.

TDF has forced Abiy to abandon his assault on the constitutional federal system. He confirmed his commitment to the federal system by writing it down on PP's program and highlighting multicultural federalism in PP's first general meeting. That has resolved Abiy's fundamental quarrel with Oromo and Tigray. Therefore, Oromo politicians have no interest in the disastrous Oromara designed to remove Tigray.

Jawar, the true leader of Oromo, told Amhara politician in his last interview "arfchu tegezu. There's no Oromara II. If you want to oppose Abiy, you are on your bike!". Guess what the title of his town-hall meeting at Nuremberg, Germany was? ‘From Civil War to Just Peace’. It is time Amhara politicians join the peace momentum. We have seen the result of creating an alliance of two tribes (or whatever you want to call them) at the expense of the other 80 tribes! OFC and other political organizations have created የተቃዋሚ ፓርቲዎች የምክክር ቤት (caucus) today. An alliance of all for all is the way to go. He has the support of the West, it'd be hard to remove him by force.

[MINILIK]

There has never been a traitor and backstabber as vicious as Abiy Ahmed in 3000 years of Ethiopian history. In any case, we can hang him by the robe if we work together. The first step will be for Amhara to become unaccountable. Take out ADP cadres and officials, one by one (this one is already started)

While I hate to nitpick, I think the Amharas who live outside the Amhara region are a major problem at the moment. Not only do they support abiy out of fear, but also they are becoming banda in killing their own brothers and sisters. They do not realize that we also fight for them. Since the ''seventh king'' came to the power, he has been appointing his own puppets as regional leaders. we do all the heavy lifting yet, we can't even choice our leaders.

We are morally obliged to fight against dictatorship. We also have to choose our battles carefully. So far, things are going well. Nevertheless, use the terrains, attack fast, and unleash a lightning strike. Don't confront the army, retreat when they advance, attack them when they stop, strike them when they are exhausted; pursue them when they retreat. Don't let them rest.