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You have a good point sir, but you have to remember that, Ethiopia as a state was put together due to the military aid that Emperor Menelik got from certain European countries-i.e. France, who armed, trained and even sent generals to participate in some of the conquests of his army. Ethiopia as a state owes its existence to the firearms and tactics it got from some European elites-straight up, whether we like it or not.
Some overzealous Ethiopian nationalists may be enraged at this, and call me all kinds of names, which is fine, it is what it is: and if you have to resort to insults, as opposed to refuting claims with historical sources, reliable ones that is; that means you lost the debate/discussion before it ended/or started! Emotions don't win intellectual discussions/discourses, but facts do!

To continue,
So, when you say abiy and co should not fear the white man and not worry about them, you have to remember, we're not Eritrea who is self reliant, Ethiopia since its inception, has been dependent on the European elites/certain countries elites, and a large portion of the governmental budget is based on aid it gets from the Europeans/outside world, and of course, debt and depending on them makes one beholden to them, in a sense.
from menelik-whose army was trained, armed, and directed in many battles by European generals- to haile selassie who was a loyal puppet/servant of the UK/US/Israel, whose government ate the best sega wat while thousands starved in wallo/tigray/elsewhere, to menge-who depended on russian arms and aid, Ethiopia has always been dependent on them.

Solution? Until Ethiopia can become a middle income country, and be less reliant on others, it can't really say ''No'' to those who fund it, as much as I/You/we dislike it....So, unfortunately, if abiy is acting strange or standoff-ish, it maybe due to that pressure, because of course, if ethiopia and eritrea work on a mutually beneficial agenda to develop their countries, it would be a super power that could challenge any contender in that very important part of the world..

disclaimer: I still DO not buy into the current propaganda being spread by the various TPLF CYBER CADRES, such as tarik/wedi/judgementday1234/present aka union aka wushyee/AND THE others, that somehow, abiy is ''plotting'' against Eritrea, and I see that as just another agenda of their TPLF Tegadalay bosses, who wish to cause conflict between the alliance [Abiy's govt/Eritrea's govt/etc] that has them in Mekelle worried day and night. But, just saying, abiy knows who funds his country and govt, so he has to play the game carefully....

Without Menelik there is no Dire Dawa and there is no Addis Ababa there is no centralized economy or even railroad So menelik did not keep oromo in poverty because in 1800s poverty was nature in Africa. and even without Ethiopia you will still be in poverty. A king does not have slaves a king has Servants. Also Haile Selasie did not start any famines in Wello or Tigray. you act as if they had power over whether it rains or not!

the atses you hate so much if they did not exist THERE would still be famines droughts and poverty across the country it is your likes that start the wars so + war devastations death and destruction.

in 1941 the Italians carved HOA into 6 countries. If not for Haile Selassie alliance with British this would have been made into action

therefore no Shewa or Harar for you jimman

I agree with Sadacha that Ethiopia has always depended on Ferengis' goodwill. If that is what our Ethiopian brothers and sisters wish to conduct business, that is up to them, and we wish them all the best. My problem with that is then they need to stop bragging about Ethiopia being a unique country in Africa that has "Never" been defeated, which of course is wrong. The Ethiopians know that they have always depended on the Portuguese, English, French, Norwegian, etc. governments for military assistance. For example, can our Ethiopian bros and sis really believe they could have defeated Said Bareh of Somalia if it were not for the Cubans, Yemenis, and Lybians under the Soviet Union forces? Be realistic in your zeraf! zeraf! rhetorics for the truth will always come and bite you behind.

Temtt

Somalia was supported and armed by America and Egypt. So what do you want ethiopians to do? Ethiopians never said they will capture Mocadigshu to begin with the intent was to push back the Somalian Army out of Ethiopia's Border. and so when Somalian use American weapons against Ethio the Ethio has every right to use USSR weapons back against Somalian. Zeraf & Fukera is motivation for Ethio to leave their peaceful life and go defend the country in a war

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:29

Without Menelik there is no Dire Dawa and there is no Addis Ababa there is no centralized economy or even railroad So menelik did not keep oromo in poverty because in 1800s poverty was nature in Africa. and even without Ethiopia you will still be in poverty. A king does not have slaves a king has Servants. Also Haile Selasie did not start any famines in Wello or Tigray. you act as if they had power over whether it rains or not!

the atses you hate so much if they did not exist THERE would still be famines droughts and poverty across the country it is your likes that start the wars so + war devastations death and destruction.

in 1941 the Italians carved HOA into 6 countries. If not for Haile Selassie alliance with British this would have been made into action

therefore no Shewa or Harar for you jimman

Actually it was Ras Gobana Dacce and war minister Ras Habtegiorgis Dinage who have been ruling with the blessings and grace of God. Later on it was Li'ul ras Taffari Mekonnen Gudisa Nagaw (King of kings, emperor Haile Selassie I. Meaning, Ethiopia is Oromiyya and Oromiyya is Ethiopia.

If it were not for the brave and brilliant democratic Oromos who run fast in the front lines and saved Mamma Ethiopia over and over again at every single critical junctures of history, you or any body may not have had a country known as Ethiopia now.

Sunny

Ras HabteGiorgis Dinage was Debub Shewan Gurage
Ras Mokennen Welde Mikael Melekot Yemane is Semien Shewan Amara and had a grandma from Tembien
Ras Gobana Dache was Central Shewan Tulama Orma

There was a reason why Gurages survived as a ethnicity it is because they had feresegna warriors as well Semien Shewa Amharas had brave warriors that fought off other tribes. Even Sadacha Wahabi can link you the Gurage King (Sebat) who defeated the Borana invaders

so no Shewa for you

Wahabi Islamic oromia.

You wahabis joined Ethiopia very late in 16th century. You are only part of 0.0001% of Ethiopian history. So let we the true Ethiopians tell our own history. You stuip'd wahabi think Ethiopia was created by Minilk.

Ethiopia is the first country on earth!! Period! Don't even go to far back to era of Geez that was changed 6000 years ago, the Amharic Alphabet alone is 5000 years old.

And Ethiopian fought with Europeans before shot guns were even invented in China and before 99.9% of European countries were even formed. Hahaha.

We fought with Alexander the great in Gonder/ Sudan border. That was 300 years before Jesus was even born! Our queen at the time chased his as's all the way to Egypt. Then followed Roman general Caesar who was badly beaten by Ethiopians. The Turks as well, beggening 1200 years ago, fought with Ethiopians multiple wars in current Eritrea. And the Turks lost all of them! Egyptians as well tried to conquer the nile source over 21 times and lost all of them. You were in Kenya back then, I don't blame you for not knowing

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:52

Sunny

Ras HabteGiorgis Dinage was Debub Shewan Gurage
Ras Mokennen Welde Mikael Melekot Yemane is Semien Shewan Amara and had a grandma from Tembien
Ras Gobana Dache was Central Shewan Tulama Orma

There was a reason why Gurages survived as a ethnicity it is because they had feresegna warriors as well Semien Shewa Amharas had brave warriors that fought off other tribes. Even Sadacha Wahabi can link you the Gurage King (Sebat) who defeated the Borana invaders

so no Shewa for you

Your self serving falsifications of histoy and victories are well documented and noted. Just like now trying your best to steal victories from the Oromo Qeerros and Qarres who sacrificed their dear lives and limbs finally sending the tplf back to Makale while they themselves were predicting 100 to 200 easy minority rule.

union wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:59

Wahabi Islamic oromia.

You wahabis joined Ethiopia very late in 16th century. You are only part of 0.0001% of Ethiopian history. So let we the true Ethiopians tell our own history. You stuip'd wahabi think Ethiopia was created by Minilk.

Ethiopia is the first country on earth!! Period! Don't even go to far back to era of Geez that was changed 6000 years ago, the Amharic Alphabet alone is 5000 years old.

And Ethiopian fought with Europeans before shot guns were even invented in China and before 99.9% of European countries were even formed. Hahaha.

We fought with Alexander the great in Gonder/ Sudan border. That was 300 years before Jesus was even born! Our queen at the time chased his as's all the way to Egypt. Then followed Roman general Caesar who was badly beaten by Ethiopians. The Turks as well, beggening 1200 years ago, fought with Ethiopians multiple wars in current Eritrea. And the Turks lost all of them! Egyptians as well tried to conquer the nile source over 21 times and lost all of them. You were in Kenya back then, I don't blame you for not knowing

That is pure bulsh!t! Very soft one! And bulsh!ting is part of your heritage! By then you were in eastern Yemen collecting incense as a slave daily laborer. Document fact!

Stop the lies old man.

Tplf went down after we Ethiopians fought them for 27 long years. The stone throwing oromo kids showed up 2 years before Tplf was done. I am not going to talk about the fight pre ESAT era, post the formation of ESAT the Ethiopians were well informed and moblized. Qerro was asleep for 25 years. 99.9% of the G7 army was Amhara.

And remember, Tplf after having a closed door meeting for over 1 month, they sent expedition of special forces to 3 targeted areas in Gonder and eastern Gojam to diarm the Amara. They told CIA they will disarm Amara and they are not worried about the stone throwing oromo kids. So CIA put a hold on HR127 until Tplf disarms Amara. CIA itself planted security monitoring/spy station to listen to all public conversations in Amara region while Tplf was busy trying to diarm Amara. But after 3 heavy wars and multiple small expeditions, Tplf failed to defeat the Amara. Then HR127 passed and Tplf run away before Amara traps them.

Since Tplf could not defeat Amara, they cared less about silencing stone throwing qerros.

sun wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:06

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:52

Sunny

Ras HabteGiorgis Dinage was Debub Shewan Gurage
Ras Mokennen Welde Mikael Melekot Yemane is Semien Shewan Amara and had a grandma from Tembien
Ras Gobana Dache was Central Shewan Tulama Orma

There was a reason why Gurages survived as a ethnicity it is because they had feresegna warriors as well Semien Shewa Amharas had brave warriors that fought off other tribes. Even Sadacha Wahabi can link you the Gurage King (Sebat) who defeated the Borana invaders

so no Shewa for you

Your self serving falsifications of histoy and victories are well documented and noted. Just like now trying your best to steal victories from the Oromo Qeerros and Qarres who sacrificed their dear lives and limbs finally sending the tplf back to Makale while they themselves were predicting 100 to 200 easy minority rule.

Bingo! no need to be angry..Just state the fact you know.

Provide your evidence you were in Ethiopia before 16th century. So shut the FCK up

We don't need to lie. We know who we are! And we didn't come from Yemen We are the inhabitants of the lands!

ኢትዮጵ was the name our father! Don't get me started. He was the founder of the first country on earth well known as ETHIOPIA!!

sun wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:12

union wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:59

:

Wahabi Islamic oromia.

You wahabis joined Ethiopia very late in 16th century. You are only part of 0.0001% of Ethiopian history. So let we the true Ethiopians tell our own history. You stuip'd wahabi think Ethiopia was created by Minilk.

Ethiopia is the first country on earth!! Period! Don't even go to far back to era of Geez that was changed 6000 years ago, the Amharic Alphabet alone is 5000 years old.

And Ethiopian fought with Europeans before shot guns were even invented in China and before 99.9% of European countries were even formed. Hahaha.

We fought with Alexander the great in Gonder/ Sudan border. That was 300 years before Jesus was even born! Our queen at the time chased his as's all the way to Egypt. Then followed Roman general Caesar who was badly beaten by Ethiopians. The Turks as well, beggening 1200 years ago, fought with Ethiopians multiple wars in current Eritrea. And the Turks lost all of them! Egyptians as well tried to conquer the nile source over 21 times and lost all of them. You were in Kenya back then, I don't blame you for not knowing

That is pure bulsh!t! Very soft one! And bulsh!ting is part of your heritage! By then you were in eastern Yemen collecting incense as a slave daily laborer. Document fact!

union wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:22

Stop the lies old man.

Tplf went down after we Ethiopians fought them for 27 long years. The stone throwing oromo kids showed up 2 years before Tplf was done. I am not going to talk about the fight pre ESAT era, post the formation of ESAT the Ethiopians were well informed and moblized. Qerro was asleep for 25 years. 99.9% of the G7 army was Amhara.

And remember, Tplf after having a closed door meeting for over 1 month, they sent expedition of special forces to 3 targeted areas in Gonder and eastern Gojam to diarm the Amara. They told CIA they will disarm Amara and they are not worried about the stone throwing oromo kids. So CIA put a hold on HR127 until Tplf disarms Amara. CIA itself planted security monitoring/spy station to listen to all public conversations in Amara region while Tplf was busy trying to diarm Amara. But after 3 heavy wars and multiple small expeditions, Tplf failed to defeat the Amara. Then HR127 passed and Tplf run away before Amara traps them.

Since Tplf could not defeat Amara, they cared less about silencing stone throwing qerros.

sun wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:06

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:52

Sunny

Ras HabteGiorgis Dinage was Debub Shewan Gurage
Ras Mokennen Welde Mikael Melekot Yemane is Semien Shewan Amara and had a grandma from Tembien
Ras Gobana Dache was Central Shewan Tulama Orma

There was a reason why Gurages survived as a ethnicity it is because they had feresegna warriors as well Semien Shewa Amharas had brave warriors that fought off other tribes. Even Sadacha Wahabi can link you the Gurage King (Sebat) who defeated the Borana invaders

so no Shewa for you

Your self serving falsifications of histoy and victories are well documented and noted. Just like now trying your best to steal victories from the Oromo Qeerros and Qarres who sacrificed their dear lives and limbs finally sending the tplf back to Makale while they themselves were predicting 100 to 200 easy minority rule.

Keep the Bulsh!t lies bigger and bigger so you may seem hopeless dwarf compared to the size of BIG lies. Why shouldn't you because all your life and your history was built on faking and endless lyings. That is typical characteristics of petty thieves. You don't even deserve facts because you are not after the facts but after the spanking.


"If you don’t behave, you’re going to get a spanking." ~M. Ciccone.

Stupid kebessa tigrinya amche refugee dog

Ras Mekonnen Wolde Mikael Melekot Yemane was a Shewan Amhara warrior his lineage were all Semien Showa Amhara Defenders he is from Tegelut your donkey akele a’$$ Doesnt even know shxt about tegelut or shewa your country is no different then such 18th century patriarchal feudalism jelous amche you even lived in addis that is why Kuasmeda is one of your nicks







Look at gurage shewan habtegiryogis Dinagde he looks like berhanu nega

Yeah, that is what I thought bit'ch. I told you, don't FCK with Ethiopians. You have no evidence! You gonna hurt yourself. Learn from tplf particularly meles who finally lost his head and went crazy fighting against the unbeatable and historically rich Ethiopians. We don't need to lie, what I have said above are the history of our ancestors. Not your ancestors! I don't care to talk about your ancestors on your behalf, you tell me! I can talk about million things about my ancestors with all types of historical evidences out there. We have too much!!! thank God for our genius ancestors!!

sun wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:36

union wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:22

Stop the lies old man.

Tplf went down after we Ethiopians fought them for 27 long years. The stone throwing oromo kids showed up 2 years before Tplf was done. I am not going to talk about the fight pre ESAT era, post the formation of ESAT the Ethiopians were well informed and moblized. Qerro was asleep for 25 years. 99.9% of the G7 army was Amhara.

And remember, Tplf after having a closed door meeting for over 1 month, they sent expedition of special forces to 3 targeted areas in Gonder and eastern Gojam to diarm the Amara. They told CIA they will disarm Amara and they are not worried about the stone throwing oromo kids. So CIA put a hold on HR127 until Tplf disarms Amara. CIA itself planted security monitoring/spy station to listen to all public conversations in Amara region while Tplf was busy trying to diarm Amara. But after 3 heavy wars and multiple small expeditions, Tplf failed to defeat the Amara. Then HR127 passed and Tplf run away before Amara traps them.

Since Tplf could not defeat Amara, they cared less about silencing stone throwing qerros.

sun wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 22:06

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 21:52

Sunny

Ras HabteGiorgis Dinage was Debub Shewan Gurage
Ras Mokennen Welde Mikael Melekot Yemane is Semien Shewan Amara and had a grandma from Tembien
Ras Gobana Dache was Central Shewan Tulama Orma

There was a reason why Gurages survived as a ethnicity it is because they had feresegna warriors as well Semien Shewa Amharas had brave warriors that fought off other tribes. Even Sadacha Wahabi can link you the Gurage King (Sebat) who defeated the Borana invaders

so no Shewa for you

Your self serving falsifications of histoy and victories are well documented and noted. Just like now trying your best to steal victories from the Oromo Qeerros and Qarres who sacrificed their dear lives and limbs finally sending the tplf back to Makale while they themselves were predicting 100 to 200 easy minority rule.

Keep the Bulsh!t lies bigger and bigger so you may seem hopeless dwarf compared to the size of BIG lies. Why shouldn't you because all your life and your history was built on faking and endless lyings. That is typical characteristics of petty thieves.

People who believe Ethiopia, a country that during the last 3 years has made great stride in its commitment to wean itself off aid dependency, is still irrevocably bound to its tragic past under successive despots that had served the interests of global powers, tend to ignore the successes of other nations that had unshackled themselves from aid dependency and thrown off the yoke of Neo-colonialism to enjoy the freedom that only comes through having benevolent, selfless leaders to steer the nation to the right direction.

Singapore, for example, owing to its selfless patriotic leadership, had managed the balancing act between self sufficiency and foreign investment by first securing economic and political independence-- the harder, but more rewarding, task. Had the Singaporean leaders capitulate to the pressure from world powers to choose sides during the Cold War, the country wouldn't have leaped from Third World to First during the last 50 years, and their benevolent leader would have never dared to freely express his views on global affairs and state his professed values and ideals without fear of repercussion.

Bottom line is, political and economic independence is the core measure to gauging the overall health of the nation. Get over your smear fear and watch miracles unfold. "We have nothing to fear except fear itself."

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 20:41

Sadacha, you are making Ethiopia a unique case. Every country in the world is dependent on other countries one way or another, be it for its economy, military etc. The military hardware all African countries use today wasn't produced by themselves so they have to get it somewhere. How is Menelik exceptional for getting weapons from Europeans while every African country today gets its weapons from Russia and the US? How is Menelik different from every African country today? He got his weapons the same way all African countries without exception get their weapons today. What are you expecting that he produce the military hardware himself? Give me a break!

The idea of becoming fully independent for everything is a big delusion in my view and no other country is fully independent to the extent of it doesn't need any engagement with other countries. Even countries like North Korea are dependent on the likes of China and Russia. USA and Europe are highly dependent on China and China itself is highly dependent on its exports to the US and Europe. Inter-dependency is a norm not an exception. And I'm very sure you would not want to live in those few countries that are highly isolated.

Util now, no country showed a way to become prosperous by isolating itself and being "self-reliant". Sure it is good if you become food self-reliant but many rich countries in the Arab world are not. What about weapons? How many countries are self-reliant when it comes to military hardware? Very few. And if you want to go beyond food and want to sell your products to Europe and USA then you become dependent on their money even without aid. So if you don't meet their conditions they will block your imports as the US did to Ethiopia's AGOA access. The US for example blocked Russian central bank assets and also once threatened to block Ethiopia's. That is the way the world works. You can't have prosperous country without engaging in trade relations with the world and those with the highest purchasing power for your goods are still USA and Europe and will have a leverage.

Finally, comparing Ethiopia and Eritrea is like comparing apples and oranges. Ethiopia's land size, population number, economy, ethnic make up, mentality, political history, state make up and almost everything else is not comparable to Eritrea except the few cultural similarities. Eritrea's population is half the size of Addis Ababa's for God's sake! To even expect Ethiopia to act like Eritrea is absurd and irresponsible in my view and will never materialize. The two countries are miles apart in every major parameters and so I don't see any need for both of them to follow the other. They both should fully understand that they are fully different countries with very few cultural similarities. Sometimes the few cultural similarities deceive us all to think we are dealing with similar countries. That is a delusion. Each of them need to find what is best for themselves and never try to copy the other thinking they are somehow similar. They are not!

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 20:41

You have a good point sir, but you have to remember that, Ethiopia as a state was put together due to the military aid that Emperor Menelik got from certain European countries-i.e. France, who armed, trained and even sent generals to participate in some of the conquests of his army. Ethiopia as a state owes its existence to the firearms and tactics it got from some European elites-straight up, whether we like it or not.
Some overzealous Ethiopian nationalists may be enraged at this, and call me all kinds of names, which is fine, it is what it is: and if you have to resort to insults, as opposed to refuting claims with historical sources, reliable ones that is; that means you lost the debate/discussion before it ended/or started! Emotions don't win intellectual discussions/discourses, but facts do!

To continue,
So, when you say abiy and co should not fear the white man and not worry about them, you have to remember, we're not Eritrea who is self reliant, Ethiopia since its inception, has been dependent on the European elites/certain countries elites, and a large portion of the governmental budget is based on aid it gets from the Europeans/outside world, and of course, debt and depending on them makes one beholden to them, in a sense.
from menelik-whose army was trained, armed, and directed in many battles by European generals- to haile selassie who was a loyal puppet/servant of the UK/US/Israel, whose government ate the best sega wat while thousands starved in wallo/tigray/elsewhere, to menge-who depended on russian arms and aid, Ethiopia has always been dependent on them.

Solution? Until Ethiopia can become a middle income country, and be less reliant on others, it can't really say ''No'' to those who fund it, as much as I/You/we dislike it....So, unfortunately, if abiy is acting strange or standoff-ish, it maybe due to that pressure, because of course, if ethiopia and eritrea work on a mutually beneficial agenda to develop their countries, it would be a super power that could challenge any contender in that very important part of the world..

disclaimer: I still DO not buy into the current propaganda being spread by the various TPLF CYBER CADRES, such as tarik/wedi/judgementday1234/present aka union aka wushyee/AND THE others, that somehow, abiy is ''plotting'' against Eritrea, and I see that as just another agenda of their TPLF Tegadalay bosses, who wish to cause conflict between the alliance [Abiy's govt/Eritrea's govt/etc] that has them in Mekelle worried day and night. But, just saying, abiy knows who funds his country and govt, so he has to play the game carefully....

You're, unfortunately, absolutely correct!

I don't know, but maybe Ethiopia should completely change direction towards Russia & China. For that to happen tho, a leader is needed ready to weather the dangers of attempted coups & assassinations for the benefit of all.

I don't really know, what more to say.

ተሰሞንኛው ኤርትራዊ ግጥም የተቀነጨበ

Meleket wrote: ↑

27 May 2022, 10:57

ዲሞክራሲ ምስ ኣውቶክራሲ፡
ኣብ ጥምጥም እንተ ኣትዮም ኣብ ቃልሲ፡
ትም ሕትም ምባል፡ ኣይከውንን ፈውሲ፡
ንመን ትድግፊ ብሓሳብ ብርእሲ፡
ምስ መን ኢኺ ኢድኺ ትሕውሲ፡
ንመን ትደልዪ ንዲሞክራሲ’ዶ ንኣውቶክራሲ፡
እስከ ተሓተቲ ነፍሲ?

ግርድፉ ትርጉም . . .

ዲሞክራሲና አውቶክራሲ እርስበእርስ ቢዋጉ፡
እያዩ እንዳላዩ መሆን ያባት ኣይደለምና ወጉ፡. . . [ ይሰማል ፒፒዎች!]
የማን ደጋፊ ሆነሽ ማንን ነው ምታደንቂ፡
ነፍሴ እስቲ ተጠየቂ፡
የማንን ዜማ ነው አንቺ ምታደምቂ?
ዲሞክራሲ ወይስ አውቶክራሲ የቱ ይበጅሻል፡
ቆም ብለሽ ማሰቡ አሁን ይሻልሻል፡
ዋ፡ ያልሆነ ደግፈሽ ኋላ ይቆጭሻል!

Well said!!!

I have talked to many Somalis about tplfs invasion of Somalia in 2006 and displaced a million Somalia and thousands died, and most Somalis don’t hate Ethiopians as the result of the devastation Ethiopian tplf army caused, BECAUSE Somalis know tplfs Ethiopia was a servant client regime serving the ferenjis agenda, and that’s the history of Ethiopian governments in the last 100 years.
There was a hope in Abiy Ahmed who declared in his speeches many times that “he would rather die that be a telalaki water carrier of the ferenjis just like tplf was… but I think Abiy is coming into realization it’s not easy for country like Ethiopia to switch and be independent especially when you have Ethiopians like Tplf olf who openly advocate the destruction of their own country ‍♂️‍♂️ It’s a sad state to be in and for that reason Dr Abiy deserves a grace unless he becomes a house nig$ga and start implementing the evil ferenjis agenda of wars and invasions of Somalia Eritrea …

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

29 May 2022, 20:41

You have a good point sir, but you have to remember that, Ethiopia as a state was put together due to the military aid that Emperor Menelik got from certain European countries-i.e. France, who armed, trained and even sent generals to participate in some of the conquests of his army. Ethiopia as a state owes its existence to the firearms and tactics it got from some European elites-straight up, whether we like it or not.
Some overzealous Ethiopian nationalists may be enraged at this, and call me all kinds of names, which is fine, it is what it is: and if you have to resort to insults, as opposed to refuting claims with historical sources, reliable ones that is; that means you lost the debate/discussion before it ended/or started! Emotions don't win intellectual discussions/discourses, but facts do!

To continue,
So, when you say abiy and co should not fear the white man and not worry about them, you have to remember, we're not Eritrea who is self reliant, Ethiopia since its inception, has been dependent on the European elites/certain countries elites, and a large portion of the governmental budget is based on aid it gets from the Europeans/outside world, and of course, debt and depending on them makes one beholden to them, in a sense.
from menelik-whose army was trained, armed, and directed in many battles by European generals- to haile selassie who was a loyal puppet/servant of the UK/US/Israel, whose government ate the best sega wat while thousands starved in wallo/tigray/elsewhere, to menge-who depended on russian arms and aid, Ethiopia has always been dependent on them.

Solution? Until Ethiopia can become a middle income country, and be less reliant on others, it can't really say ''No'' to those who fund it, as much as I/You/we dislike it....So, unfortunately, if abiy is acting strange or standoff-ish, it maybe due to that pressure, because of course, if ethiopia and eritrea work on a mutually beneficial agenda to develop their countries, it would be a super power that could challenge any contender in that very important part of the world..

disclaimer: I still DO not buy into the current propaganda being spread by the various TPLF CYBER CADRES, such as tarik/wedi/judgementday1234/present aka union aka wushyee/AND THE others, that somehow, abiy is ''plotting'' against Eritrea, and I see that as just another agenda of their TPLF Tegadalay bosses, who wish to cause conflict between the alliance [Abiy's govt/Eritrea's govt/etc] that has them in Mekelle worried day and night. But, just saying, abiy knows who funds his country and govt, so he has to play the game carefully....

በኢትዮጵያ ጥላቻ የሰከረው ሴጣን
በአማራ ጥላቻ የዞረበት ጋኔን
ገሚሱ ነደደ በአሮር እሳት
ገሚሱ ደንግጦ የሚለው ጠፍቶት
ይቅበዘበዝ ገባ መሞቱ ታውቆት
የጥላቻ ጦሩ እራሱን ወግቶት

አማራም አበበ ኢትዮጵያም ገነነች
እንደዱባ ተክል ተሸፍና የኖረች
በጀግኖች ልጆቿ ታጥራ የነበረች
ሰአቱ ደረስ እሷም ይኸው ወጣች
ጠላት አሸብራ እያርበተበተች

ተሸብሯል ጠላት ከሞት የተረፈው
አምቆ ይዞታል ጥላቻ ውስጡ ነው
ፍኖን ይላክበት ክር የማይስተውን
ብልትን ነጥሎ ፈልጦ የሚጥለውን

ገና ይሰማል ዜና ኢትዮጵያ ስትነግስ
ጠላቶቿ ጠፍተው ህዝቧ ብሎት ደስ
እሱም በንዴት እራሱን አጥፍቶ
በጥላቻ ገመድ ተንጠልጥሎ ሞቶ
በቅርብ እናያለን አፈሩንም በልቶ

የዛ ሰው ይበለን የአማራ ልጆች
በሰላም ያቆየን የኢትዮጵያ ልጆች
ለከርሞ ያድርሰን የኢትዮጵያ ወዳጅ
መፍትሄ አምጥቶልን ለሁሉ የሚበጅ