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Who brought Judaism into Abysinnia?

Post by Noble Amhara » 06 May 2022, 10:55

Who brought Judaism to Abysinnia?

Was it Yemeni Jews or Israelite Jews?

Well we do know the Israelites fled to Yemen and intermixed with Yemen people and formed Yemeni Judaism we also hear about the King of Himyar converting to Judaism

I believe Yemeni Jews migrated to Amhara Region around 200 AD. They avoided Aksum and went straight down to Tekeze River forming Beta Israel in Enda Aba Guna and Welkayt then we also know the Judaism spread all the way to Lake Tana.

I believe Yemeni Jews migrated to Western Abysinnia to avoid interaction with Aksumite.

They would eventually form a Kingdom (Beta Israel) and intermix with the population dying out because of their small number compared to indigenous folks





Update

The evidence goes to show that it was more likely that the Jews of Mizraim (Egypt) travelled to Amhara Region or Abysinnia from the Nile River bringing the knowledge of Leviticus to Abysinnia (both sides of Tekeze Basin) Begmender and Lake Tana
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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by Abere » 06 May 2022, 11:10

I believe the opposite of this hypothesis. Those people who migrated from Yemen to Ethiopia are the present-day Tigre. These immigrants are not descendants of Jew, they are believed to Yemeni ethnic minority group named as Akhdam. The Jewish people migrated to Ethiopia via the Nile River, crossing deserts of Egypt and Nubia. They settled first in lake Tana area. They brought the Ark of Moses with them and was kept at Lake Tana - all evidence of Jewish artifacts are found in Tana monastery. Very late in the old history of Ethiopia, the Ark later transferred to Axum Zion. Thus, the Jewish people flocked to Ethiopia via the Nubia desert at various period not via Afar.

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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by Noble Amhara » 06 May 2022, 11:40

Do you know Judaism spanned from Metemma Eske Lake Tana, Humera Eske Inda Aba Guna

So it does make a bit of sense that the Jewry travelled to Abysinnia from the Nile around 100 AD or 100 BC

But the Yemeni Jews also could have travelled into there as well. We know the Jews of Yemen had kingdoms and a larger presence then the Israelites and practiced a modern way of Judaism.

We must find the Beta Israel Bible. Lets see how much books they have. And then compare it to Yemeni

Keep in mind beta israel only had a few families of Jews not a large population. The Beta Israel were Abysinnian converts to Judaism.
Abere wrote:
06 May 2022, 11:10
I believe the opposite of this hypothesis. Those people who migrated from Yemen to Ethiopia are the present-day Tigre. These immigrants are not descendants of Jew, they are believed to Yemeni ethnic minority group named as Akhdam. The Jewish people migrated to Ethiopia via the Nile River, crossing deserts of Egypt and Nubia. They settled first in lake Tana area. They brought the Ark of Moses with them and was kept at Lake Tana - all evidence of Jewish artifacts are found in Tana monastery. Very late in the old history of Ethiopia, the Ark later transferred to Axum Zion. Thus, the Jewish people flocked to Ethiopia via the Nubia desert at various period not via Afar.

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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by Abere » 06 May 2022, 12:05

In history, there were different waves of migrations. The primary route is the Nile River. It is also true that Axum Obelisk was built by the same people who first built Egypt's pyramid and those in Nubia/Sudan. Even the Sudanese complained that Ethiopians aborted their civilization initiated in the Nile. It is also likely that Yemen Jews could infiltrate , but their magnitude is insignificant compared to the primary migration highway. As you mentioned it will be very helpful to find ancient, recoded events of these. I read once in the book of ገድለ ተክለሃይማኖት that the first Bete-Israel that followed King Menelik I settled in various parts of Ethiopia to mention some in ጋይንት፥ሳይንት፥መቅደላ፥ ወዘተ. I wish I had it now to make sure I got the full list of areas where Original Jews settled in Ethiopia. But the point you made as to Yemen immigrants also missed the biggest ethnic groups namely Akhdam.
Noble Amhara wrote:
06 May 2022, 11:40
Do you know Judaism spanned from Metemma Eske Lake Tana, Humera Eske Inda Aba Guna

So it does make a bit of sense that the Jewry travelled to Abysinnia from the Nile around 100 AD or 100 BC

But the Yemeni Jews also could have travelled into there as well. We know the Jews of Yemen had kingdoms and a larger presence then the Israelites and practiced a modern way of Judaism.

We must find the Beta Israel Bible. Lets see how much books they have. And then compare it to Yemeni

Keep in mind beta israel only had a few families of Jews not a large population. The Beta Israel were Abysinnian converts to Judaism.
Abere wrote:
06 May 2022, 11:10
I believe the opposite of this hypothesis. Those people who migrated from Yemen to Ethiopia are the present-day Tigre. These immigrants are not descendants of Jew, they are believed to Yemeni ethnic minority group named as Akhdam. The Jewish people migrated to Ethiopia via the Nile River, crossing deserts of Egypt and Nubia. They settled first in lake Tana area. They brought the Ark of Moses with them and was kept at Lake Tana - all evidence of Jewish artifacts are found in Tana monastery. Very late in the old history of Ethiopia, the Ark later transferred to Axum Zion. Thus, the Jewish people flocked to Ethiopia via the Nubia desert at various period not via Afar.

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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by Noble Amhara » 06 May 2022, 12:23

Mäṣḥafä Kedus (Holy Scriptures) is the name for their religious literature. The language of the writings is Geʽez, which also is the liturgical language of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. The holiest book is the Orit (meaning "law") or Octateuch: the Five Books of Moses plus Joshua, Judges and Ruth. The rest of the Bible has secondary importance. They possess the Book of Lamentations from the traditional Hebrew canon, and part of the Book of Jeremiah, as in the Orthodox Tewahedo biblical canon.[7][8][9]

Deuterocanonical books that also make up part of the canon are Sirach, Judith, Esdras 1 and 2, Meqabyan, Jubilees, Baruch 1 and 4, Tobit, Enoch, and the testaments of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.[7][8][9] Many of these books differ substantially from the similarly numbered and named texts in Koine Greek and Hebrew (such as "Maccabbees"), though some of the Ge'ez works are clearly dependent on those texts. Others appear to have other ancient literary and oral origins. All of the texts are also used by the Orthodox Christian population as well, though with varying levels of importance between the communities.

Important non-Biblical writings include: Nagara Muse "The Conversation of Moses", Mota Aaron "Death of Aaron", Mota Muse "Death of Moses", Te'ezaza Sanbat "Precepts of the Sabbath", Arde'et "Students", Gorgorios, Mäṣḥafä Sa'atat "Book of Hours", Abba Elias "Father Elijah", Mäṣḥafä Mäla'əkt "Book of Angels", Mäṣḥafä Kahan "Book of the Priest", Dərsanä Abrəham Wäsara Bägabs "Homily on Abraham and Sarah in Egypt", Gadla Sosna "The Acts of Susanna", and Baqadāmi Gabra Egzi'abḥēr "In the Beginning God Created". Zena Āyhud and Fālasfā "Philosophers" are two books that are not considered sacred, but have had great influence

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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by EthioRedSea » 06 May 2022, 18:00

The first migration of Jews was to Tigray. Jews are one of the ethnic groups of Tigray. Tigrayan kings in Aksum forced Jews to convert to Christianity and to avoid this, they migrated to Ras Dejen, mountainous area near Gonder. Tigrayan kings like Kaleb and General Abraha always defended Jews in Yemen. Most Tigrayans are probably Jewish descend. In fact the division between Tigrayans and Jews is that of religion. The people look the same.

The Arc of Noah is Aksum, never went to Lake Tana. It was brought to Aksum Tsion Church by Menelik I, son of Solomon and Saba (Queen of Tigray and Yemen).

The Amhara are too wild to be Jews. Amhara are Bantu Africans and they dance like West Africans, more accent on body movement like most African. In Jews community, dance and music are sensual just like in Tigray.

The Felassha have documented every thing. About their migration to Aksum and about Menelik I rule etc. About kings and queens of Aksum. We need to get the recordings of the Felassha translated, which Israel might make it accessible to all historians.


Procopius, John of Ephesus, and other contemporary historians recount Kaleb's invasion of Yemen around 520, against the Himyarite king, Yusuf Asar Yathar, known as Dhu Nuwas, a Jew who was persecuting the Christian community of Najran. After much fighting, Kaleb's soldiers eventually routed Yusuf's forces and killed the king, allowing Kaleb to appoint Sumuafa' Ashawa', a native Christian (named Esimiphaios by Procopius), as his viceroy of Himyar.

As a result of his protection of the Christians, Kaleb is known as Saint Elesbaan after the sixteenth-century Cardinal Caesar Baronius added him to his edition of the Roman Martyrology despite his being a miaphysite.[7][8][9] However, the Catholic Church now recognises that Miaphysitism — the actual Christology of Oriental Orthodoxy — is not heretical as signed agreements between the Popes and various Patriarchs confirm.

Axumite control of Arabia Felix continued until c. 525 when Sumuafa' Ashawa' was deposed by Abraha, who made himself king. Procopius states that Kaleb made several unsuccessful attempts to recover his overseas territory; however, his successor later negotiated a peace with Abraha, where Abraha acknowledged the Axumite king's authority and paid tribute.[citation needed] Munro-Hay opines that by this expedition Axum overextended itself, and this final intervention across the Red Sea, "was Aksum's swan-song as a great power in the region."[10]

A historical record survives of a meeting between the Byzantine ambassador and historian Nonnosus and Kaleb in the year 530.

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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by Noble Amhara » 06 May 2022, 19:33

IQ 0 Ethio Dead Sea

Dont make me laugh

The Jew are closer to White then to Tigrayans





VS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by EthioRedSea » 06 May 2022, 22:30

Some in Tigray are not Semitic. The majority are. The photo below is that of Tigrayans who are Cushitic with some Semitic features.




King Solomon's Country of Judea/Israel is the only region where Jews migrated to Aksum, Tigray.
Jews have migrated to mutiple areas in the world. They refounded Israel after 3000 years.
It is not exaggerated to say that "God created the World, The Jews made The World".
Judaism gave us Old Testament, where we in Tigray strictly follow. Tigrayans eat and drink according to the rules in Old Testament and so do The Jews. Tigrayans are not Jews. They are Semitic as are Arabs.

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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by TesfaNews » 06 May 2022, 23:07

Gondarine (Beta Israel) House of Israel Jewish Priest Raphael Hadane
He was born in Seqelt, Ethiopia and studied with the Qessim as a child. During the Italian occupation of Ethiopia, he had moved to Ambober where he worked as a farmer. He studied Hebrew briefly in 1955 when an Israeli rabbi taught in Asmara. In 1985 Qes Adana immigrated to Israel along with his wife and eleven children. [3]

Hadane argued for the acceptance of the Falasha Mura as Jews.[2] At a ceremony in 1994 marking the 10th anniversary of Operation Moses, Hadane recited the Yizkor prayer in Hebrew and Amharic in memory of 4,000 members of the community who died en route to Israel.[4]

Hadane died on 8 November 2020 at the age of 97.[5]




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Re: Did Sabean Yemeni Jews bring Judaism into Abysinnia (Amhara Region)

Post by Misraq » 06 May 2022, 23:21

Graham Hankock, historian wrote about this extensively on his book titled,."The Sign & The Seal"

His conclusion is that they followed the Nile to enter the Tana Monastery. So geographical locations of the Jewery distribution around Lake Tana and Gondar in general is the reason to that.

Yemeni Jews prominence in southern Arabia was a much later phenomenon. The.migrationn of Yemenites to northern Ethiopia is an earlier event before jusiasm.sets it's foot in Yemen.

As to Tigray, the gene.pull there is diverse than Amhara. You have the likes of Seyum Mesfin, Gebre-wahid, Wedi-Necho, Meles Zenawi, Megebey....etc who have Negroits gene pool while having the likes of Gebru Astat, Aregash, Asmelash...etc having Cushitec dominated gene and a few like Tsadkan, Birhanu Gebrekrestis...etc having Semite dominated gene.

In Tigray, there is also diqalu italo/British genes with locals such as Adhanom, Abraham Genremedhin....etc. but they number few probably in 10 thousands

But majority Tigray is either Negroits Gene or Cushitic.gene (the two around 80%) and 17% semetic gene and 3% italo/British diqalu


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