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DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2022, 14:58

ዛሬ ደግሞ DR ብርሃኑ ሳይመረጥ ስልጣን ያዛ አለ።

ይህ ሰዉ እንድህ ዉዳቅ መሃይም መሆኑን አላዉቅም ነበር። Get life, idiot!

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2022, 14:58

ዛሬ ደግሞ DR ብርሃኑ ሳይመረጥ ስልጣን ያዛ አለ።

ይህ ሰዉ እንድህ ዉዳቅ መሃይም መሆኑን አላዉቅም ነበር። Get life, idiot!

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2022, 14:58

ዛሬ ደግሞ DR ብርሃኑ ሳይመረጥ ስልጣን ያዛ አለ።

ይህ ሰዉ እንድህ ዉዳቅ መሃይም መሆኑን አላዉቅም ነበር። Get life, idiot!

Horus wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2022, 18:43

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2022, 14:58

ዛሬ ደግሞ DR ብርሃኑ ሳይመረጥ ስልጣን ያዛ አለ።

ይህ ሰዉ እንድህ ዉዳቅ መሃይም መሆኑን አላዉቅም ነበር። Get life, idiot!

DTT
አይምሰልህ! ኢሌክተድ ኦፊሻልና አፖይንተድ ኦፊሻል መሃል ልዩነቱ ሳይገባው ቀርቶ ሳይሆን ብርሃኑ ፈተና መስረቅና ዲፕሎማ መግዛት አስቁሞ በቁቤ የዶነቆሩት ያራርሳ ጉዶች ሊያጋልጥ ስለሚችል የፍርሃት መግለጫ ነው ። እርግጥ እዚህ ያለው ዩኒየን የሚባለው የትግሬ ደንቆሮ ልዩነቱን ያውቃል ማለት ዘበት ነው

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 13:24

Abere,

Okay, I will consider about adding them, but what about those who are party members during the day and political activists in the night?

Abere wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 14:13

Great! Please do that from now. Do the same for those other illiterates who are die-hard tribalists, fan of tribal federation , fan of illegal-constitution, and actors of ethnic cleansing.

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 13:24

Abere,

Okay, I will consider about adding them, but what about those who are party members during the day and political activists in the night?

Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 14:46

https://www.idea.int/sites/default/file ... lature.pdf

In parliamentary systems derived from the British ‘Westminster
model’, found in many countries with a history of British colonialism, it is
standard practice for Ministers to be chosen from among the members of
parliament (MPs). The Cabinet is therefore ‘a committee of the legislative
body selected to be the executive body’ ; it is an executive
committee of the legislature. The prime minister chooses the ministers—
but he or she can only choose them from a select group of senior MPs
among the majority party or coalition.
In Britain, this remains a matter of political convention, as there is
no written constitution—although it is a convention that has been
consistently honoured. Other countries that use the Westminster model
have been more prescriptive, including the rule that ministers must in
normal circumstances be MPs in their written constitutions:

• The Constitution of Australia (S.64) states that ‘…no Minister
of State shall hold office for a longer period than three months
unless he is or becomes a senator or a member of the House of
Representatives.’

• The Constitution Act of New Zealand states that ‘A person may
be appointed and may hold office as a member of the Executive
Council or as a Minister of the Crown only if that person is a
member of Parliament

What does the Ethiopian Constitution say about such appointments?

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 09:22

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2022, 14:58

ዛሬ ደግሞ DR ብርሃኑ ሳይመረጥ ስልጣን ያዛ አለ።

ይህ ሰዉ እንድህ ዉዳቅ መሃይም መሆኑን አላዉቅም ነበር። Get life, idiot!

Could be! Most Oromo are uneducated.

DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 15:37

Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 14:46

https://www.idea.int/sites/default/file ... lature.pdf

In parliamentary systems derived from the British ‘Westminster
model’, found in many countries with a history of British colonialism, it is
standard practice for Ministers to be chosen from among the members of
parliament (MPs). The Cabinet is therefore ‘a committee of the legislative
body selected to be the executive body’ ; it is an executive
committee of the legislature. The prime minister chooses the ministers—
but he or she can only choose them from a select group of senior MPs
among the majority party or coalition.
In Britain, this remains a matter of political convention, as there is
no written constitution—although it is a convention that has been
consistently honoured. Other countries that use the Westminster model
have been more prescriptive, including the rule that ministers must in
normal circumstances be MPs in their written constitutions:

• The Constitution of Australia (S.64) states that ‘…no Minister
of State shall hold office for a longer period than three months
unless he is or becomes a senator or a member of the House of
Representatives.’

• The Constitution Act of New Zealand states that ‘A person may
be appointed and may hold office as a member of the Executive
Council or as a Minister of the Crown only if that person is a
member of Parliament

What does the Ethiopian Constitution say about such appointments?

Well, for sure I know Ethiopia has never been colonized by Great Britain and I am not sure in how much the system of Government and Government making process has been borrowed from "Westminister model".

Italy has also a parliamentary system of government, just as an example, and still can make a technocratic government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocra ... nt_(Italy)

I don't think PM Abiy is the first in the country to have proposed a member of his cabinet from outside of his own party. Ato Hailemariam Desalegn had also some cabinet members from outside of the EPRDF, if I remember correctly.

At the end of the day these are endorsed by the parliament itself, so there shouldn't be any legitimacy question here.


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Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2022, 18:08

In Italy, a technocratic government, technical government (Italian: governo tecnico) or government of technicians (Italian: governo dei tecnici), describes a government consisting of a non-political[1] body, usually supported by the political forces and functioning in the situations of emergency (especially in particular political or economical circumstances), when the party system does not have success in embodying a completely functional cabinet. When this happens, there is a need to form a Government consisting of people with Expert skills, with no connection to those political forces[2] and the goal to handle the emergency situation by overcoming the idleness of the political parties in the parliament.

That is the kind of Gov't suggested by Balderas before the country was so mismanaged by deluded power mongers. You need to understand the difference between how the Oromo administration is trying to function and the Italian example.

Obviously, ethnically blinded people never would accept political science or History and the evolution of governing. Mr. Ararsa is talking about the systems of Gov't the Ethiopian Gov't is declaring to be operating by and their divergence from the norm. You don't have to call your kin names because he isn't in agreement with the way the current Oromo Gov't is operating. It has nothing to do with Professor Berhanu, who is way qualified than the whole ministers combined, leaving aside his political views, which we all are free to support or oppose.

Election of the head of government
Implementations of the parliamentary system can also differ as to how the prime minister and government are appointed and whether the government needs the explicit approval of the parliament, rather than just the absence of its disapproval. Some countries such as India also require the prime minister to be a member of the legislature, though in other countries this only exists as a convention.

The head of state appoints a prime minister who will likely have majority support in parliament. While in practice most prime ministers under the Westminster system (including Australia, Canada, Malaysia, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom) are the leaders of the largest party in parliament, technically the appointment of the prime minister is a prerogative exercised by the monarch, the governor-general, or the president.
The head of state appoints a prime minister who must gain a vote of confidence within a set time. Examples: Italy, Thailand.
The head of state appoints the leader of the political party holding a plurality of seats in parliament as prime minister. For example, in Greece, if no party has a majority, the leader of the party with a plurality of seats is given an exploratory mandate to receive the confidence of the parliament within three days. If this is not possible, then the leader of the party with the second-highest seat number is given the exploratory mandate. If this fails, then the leader of the third-largest party is given it, and so on.
The head of state nominates a candidate for prime minister who is then submitted to parliament for approval before appointment. Example: Spain, where the King sends a proposal to the Congress of Deputies for approval. Also, Germany where under the German Basic Law (constitution) the Bundestag votes on a candidate nominated by the federal president. In these cases,[citation needed] parliament can choose another candidate who then would be appointed by the head of state.
Parliament nominates a candidate whom the head of state is constitutionally obliged to appoint as prime minister. Example: Japan, where the Emperor appoints the Prime Minister on the nomination of the National Diet. Also, Ireland, where the President of Ireland, appoints the Taoiseach on the nomination of Dáil Éireann.
A public officeholder (other than the head of state or their representative) nominates a candidate, who, if approved by parliament, is appointed as prime minister. Example: Under the Swedish Instrument of Government (1974), the power to appoint someone to form a government has been moved from the monarch to the Speaker of Parliament and the parliament itself. The speaker nominates a candidate, who is then elected to prime minister (statsminister) by the parliament if an absolute majority of the members of parliament does not vote any (i.e. they can be elected even if more members of parliament vote No than Yes).
Direct election by popular vote. Example: Israel, 1996–2001, where the prime minister was elected in a general election, with no regard to political affiliation, and whose procedure can also be described as of a semi-parliamentary system.[15][16]