Let this sink in!
Posted: 10 Apr 2022, 19:23
The same guy:
This tough & honest Irish MP's name is Clare Daly, btw.
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The same guy:
This tough & honest Irish MP's name is Clare Daly, btw.
Re: Let this sink in!
Posted: 10 Apr 2022, 19:58
Thread by Arnaud Bertrand: @RnaudBertrand
We used to think, that Russia's economy was the equivalent of a small European country.
Maybe never before, has an economy's importance been so grossly misjudged.
French economist Jacques Sapir, explains what happened (at 44:13):
To him,
He says that, a big reason for this misjudgment is exchange rates.
If you compare Russia's GDP by converting from rubles to $, you indeed get an economy the size of Spain's.
However, this is the worst possible way of comparing the size of economies.
A slightly more accurate way is to adjust for PPP (purchasing power parity: https://investopedia.com/updates/purcha ... arity-ppp/)
When you do so, you already realize that Russia's economy is actually more like the size of Germany's.
To Sapir, the service sector is today vastly overvalued in the world compared with the industrial sector and commodities.
He says that when you adjust for this, Russia's economy is vastly bigger than Germany's.
His estimate is that Russia represents in fact maybe
almost double the size its normally estimated at on a PPP basis.
This is a fascinating way to look at it and it rings very true.
This crisis is making us realize that we used to take manufacturing, the industry and commodities for granted; i.e. an antiquated side of the economy compared to shiny new "services".
What we're going through, is leading us to a huge rethink. This will undoubtedly make us conclude, that what we used to view as antiquated is much more valuable than we thought.
Ironically, this will force a revaluation of the Russian economy that's very much in their favor.
It's also very interesting to revalue China's economy, through that lens.
If we look at the Chinese economy simply based on exchange rates, it is a $17.7 trillion economy to the U.S.'s $23 trillion.
However, if we just look at it on a PPP basis we realize it is already an almost $27 trillion economy.
This means, China's economy is already close to 20% larger than the U.S.'s:
The service sector is about 54.5% of China's GDP, which is even less than in Russia (at 56.27%)
All in all, this means that China and Russia's economies combined are in fact likely about 35% of the world's economy when taking PPP into account as well as compensating for the over-valuation of the service sector.
The service sector accounts for roughly 77% of the U.S. economy.
This means that conversely, the U.S. and EU's economies are probably overvalued today.
To conclude, all this might end up making us realize that the Chinese + Russian economies combined are in fact far larger than those of the West.
Maybe as much as 40% larger, if we assume US + EU is in fact maybe just 25% of the world's economy vs 35% for China + Russia
We used to think, that Russia's economy was the equivalent of a small European country.
Maybe never before, has an economy's importance been so grossly misjudged.
French economist Jacques Sapir, explains what happened (at 44:13):
To him,
the war made us realize that the Russian economy is considerably more important than we thought.
He says that, a big reason for this misjudgment is exchange rates.
If you compare Russia's GDP by converting from rubles to $, you indeed get an economy the size of Spain's.
However, this is the worst possible way of comparing the size of economies.
A slightly more accurate way is to adjust for PPP (purchasing power parity: https://investopedia.com/updates/purcha ... arity-ppp/)
When you do so, you already realize that Russia's economy is actually more like the size of Germany's.
BUT, you also need to take something else into account:
What is the share of the service sector, versus the share of the commodities & industrial sector?
To Sapir, the service sector is today vastly overvalued in the world compared with the industrial sector and commodities.
He says that when you adjust for this, Russia's economy is vastly bigger than Germany's.
His estimate is that Russia represents in fact maybe
5% or 6% of the world's economy,
almost double the size its normally estimated at on a PPP basis.
This is a fascinating way to look at it and it rings very true.
This crisis is making us realize that we used to take manufacturing, the industry and commodities for granted; i.e. an antiquated side of the economy compared to shiny new "services".
What we're going through, is leading us to a huge rethink. This will undoubtedly make us conclude, that what we used to view as antiquated is much more valuable than we thought.
Ironically, this will force a revaluation of the Russian economy that's very much in their favor.
It's also very interesting to revalue China's economy, through that lens.
If we look at the Chinese economy simply based on exchange rates, it is a $17.7 trillion economy to the U.S.'s $23 trillion.
However, if we just look at it on a PPP basis we realize it is already an almost $27 trillion economy.
This means, China's economy is already close to 20% larger than the U.S.'s:
Let's also revalue it, by assuming that the service sector holds much less value than previously thought.
The service sector is about 54.5% of China's GDP, which is even less than in Russia (at 56.27%)
This means that if we roughly apply Sapir's ratio for Russia to China, we're in fact looking at the Chinese economy being probably about 30% of the world's economy on a PPP basis instead of the 18% it's currently estimated at.
All in all, this means that China and Russia's economies combined are in fact likely about 35% of the world's economy when taking PPP into account as well as compensating for the over-valuation of the service sector.
The service sector accounts for roughly 77% of the U.S. economy.
This means that conversely, the U.S. and EU's economies are probably overvalued today.
Consequently, while we used to think that the US + the EU make up about 30% of the world's economy on a PPP basis this is probably vastly overvalued since their service sector is such an important share of their economies.
To conclude, all this might end up making us realize that the Chinese + Russian economies combined are in fact far larger than those of the West.
Maybe as much as 40% larger, if we assume US + EU is in fact maybe just 25% of the world's economy vs 35% for China + Russia
Re: Let this sink in!
Posted: 10 Apr 2022, 20:25
Interesting article. For a minute, I was just about to pull my hair when I noticed the video clip was en français! oh la! la! Merci beaucoup!
Re: Let this sink in!
Posted: 10 Apr 2022, 20:59
Re: Let this sink in!
Posted: 11 Apr 2022, 01:07
Russia is reported to be earning $1 Billion dollars a day from its gas and oil exports to Europe alone. If Russia were to shut off gas supplies, the whole Europe would go dark, and the European manufacturing industry comes to a halt. We may soon see BRICS become an alternative to SWIFT.