እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 01 Mar 2022, 17:40
Mereja.Forum
እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
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Re: እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 01 Mar 2022, 18:39
Enquan Abron Aderesen, Temari.
I prefer the Adwa battle in 2020 though than the one you mention.
In 1888 my Grandfather was on another side of the fence, with the white man,
so I have nothing to celebrate, this 2020 Adwa war is very charming and fun.
Thanks, Shabia !!!
I prefer the Adwa battle in 2020 though than the one you mention.
In 1888 my Grandfather was on another side of the fence, with the white man,
so I have nothing to celebrate, this 2020 Adwa war is very charming and fun.
Thanks, Shabia !!!
Re: እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 02 Mar 2022, 07:05
Everybody is celebrating in his/her own way. That is the beauty of democracy!
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Re: እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 02 Mar 2022, 07:41
But also within the realm of rule of law, among others.
Using a flag without any legal recognition in the country in a nationally celebrated public holiday like ADWA is not any beauty of democracy, it can turn ugly.
Re: እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 02 Mar 2022, 07:51
The public also needs to learn to tolerate other views, flags and symbols. We are diverse and there is no law that prohibits holding a certain flag other than from those organizations that are labeled terrorists. You can even hold a southern state flag or a rasta flag or whatever in Ethiopia. Restricting and politicizing it by politicians and activists is the main problem. Believe me the ordinary people at home are very tolerant. Last time I visited Ethiopia, I have seen people holding the old Ethiopian flag and the OLF flag side by side and no one was bothering. You can hold whatever flag side by side and no one bothers but the politicians are very narrow. Let everybody hold whatever flag it wants and see if people will fight over it. I don't think so. The people are way mature than the politicians and activists. Our politicians and activists like to fight over everything including flags, symbols, event venues and what not. The people can handle it all if left alone. Let the people handle it themselves.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 07:41But also within the realm of rule of law, among others.
Using a flag without any legal recognition in the country in a nationally celebrated public holiday like ADWA is not any beauty of democracy, it can turn ugly.
Re: እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 02 Mar 2022, 08:31
ጋላው
የጋላ ሰይጣን አረንጓዴ ቢጫ ቀይ ሲያይ ያጓራዋል
"እነኝህ ጋላዎች ጋኔን የሰፈረባቸው ናቸው" ጌታቸው ረዳ
"ለጋላ ስልጣን መስጠት ማለት ለህፃን ብርጭቆ መስጠት ማለት ነው" መለስ ዜናዊ
የጋላ ሰይጣን አረንጓዴ ቢጫ ቀይ ሲያይ ያጓራዋል
"እነኝህ ጋላዎች ጋኔን የሰፈረባቸው ናቸው" ጌታቸው ረዳ
"ለጋላ ስልጣን መስጠት ማለት ለህፃን ብርጭቆ መስጠት ማለት ነው" መለስ ዜናዊ
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 07:41But also within the realm of rule of law, among others.
Using a flag without any legal recognition in the country in a nationally celebrated public holiday like ADWA is not any beauty of democracy, it can turn ugly.
Re: እንኳን ለ126ኛው የዓድዋ የድል በዓል አደረሳችሁ!
Posted: 02 Mar 2022, 17:30
temari,temari wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 07:51The public also needs to learn to tolerate other views, flags and symbols. We are diverse and there is no law that prohibits holding a certain flag other than from those organizations that are labeled terrorists. You can even hold a southern state flag or a rasta flag or whatever in Ethiopia. Restricting and politicizing it by politicians and activists is the main problem. Believe me the ordinary people at home are very tolerant. Last time I visited Ethiopia, I have seen people holding the old Ethiopian flag and the OLF flag side by side and no one was bothering. You can hold whatever flag side by side and no one bothers but the politicians are very narrow. Let everybody hold whatever flag it wants and see if people will fight over it. I don't think so. The people are way mature than the politicians and activists. Our politicians and activists like to fight over everything including flags, symbols, event venues and what not. The people can handle it all if left alone. Let the people handle it themselves.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 07:41But also within the realm of rule of law, among others.
Using a flag without any legal recognition in the country in a nationally celebrated public holiday like ADWA is not any beauty of democracy, it can turn ugly.
i have said on multiple times in here that I have nothing against any symbol, including a flag anybody deems right for itself.
What I am saying again and again is that we need to do it in the realms of the law of the country. Symbols, especially if not sanctioned by the current rule of the law, may get interpreted in any way.
There is also another important point to remember which is called sovereignty of everybody in the country, without anyone deciding for anybody else, starting at an individual level and up to the national level, with all in between.
If an individual is a sovereign entity then I am wondering if the region from which that individual is coming from is not suppoed to be also sovereign as well? If not, on what basis?
Another point is that instigating violence in any form is the least we need as a nation and our effort to nation building efforts.
There are some individuals who are not missing any opportunity to seek an attention to themselves, even if that may entail denigrating duly elected public representatives, outside of the realm of law, and causing a damage to the interest of public safety and national unity.
Why are they carrying legally unsanctioned symbols around? Did they register those symbols with concerned authorities as their symbol(s)?
We can tolerate each other, but tolerance and disturbance should also have a limit.
Such behaviors have already caused lose of human lives and damage of public safety just before a month or so.
There should be an accountability for the victims.
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Posted: 02 Mar 2022, 22:36
I get what you are saying. My point is that if we look at the current Adwa celebration, both PP and Balderas created a problem where there was none. PP tried to change a sensitive venue or at least communicated it poorly which angered many and politicized the celebration. I have never seen so many Addis Ababans come out for Adwa celebration. If only PP just kept quite and let the people do what they used to do then few people would show up and the event would have never been politicized.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 17:30temari,temari wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 07:51The public also needs to learn to tolerate other views, flags and symbols. We are diverse and there is no law that prohibits holding a certain flag other than from those organizations that are labeled terrorists. You can even hold a southern state flag or a rasta flag or whatever in Ethiopia. Restricting and politicizing it by politicians and activists is the main problem. Believe me the ordinary people at home are very tolerant. Last time I visited Ethiopia, I have seen people holding the old Ethiopian flag and the OLF flag side by side and no one was bothering. You can hold whatever flag side by side and no one bothers but the politicians are very narrow. Let everybody hold whatever flag it wants and see if people will fight over it. I don't think so. The people are way mature than the politicians and activists. Our politicians and activists like to fight over everything including flags, symbols, event venues and what not. The people can handle it all if left alone. Let the people handle it themselves.DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 07:41But also within the realm of rule of law, among others.
Using a flag without any legal recognition in the country in a nationally celebrated public holiday like ADWA is not any beauty of democracy, it can turn ugly.
i have said on multiple times in here that I have nothing against any symbol, including a flag anybody deems right for itself.
What I am saying again and again is that we need to do it in the realms of the law of the country. Symbols, especially if not sanctioned by the current rule of the law, may get interpreted in any way.
There is also another important point to remember which is called sovereignty of everybody in the country, without anyone deciding for anybody else, starting at an individual level and up to the national level, with all in between.
If an individual is a sovereign entity then I am wondering if the region from which that individual is coming from is not suppoed to be also sovereign as well? If not, on what basis?
Another point is that instigating violence in any form is the least we need as a nation and our effort to nation building efforts.
There are some individuals who are not missing any opportunity to seek an attention to themselves, even if that may entail denigrating duly elected public representatives, outside of the realm of law, and causing a damage to the interest of public safety and national unity.
Why are they carrying legally unsanctioned symbols around? Did they register those symbols with concerned authorities as their symbol(s)?
We can tolerate each other, but tolerance and disturbance should also have a limit.
Such behaviors have already caused lose of human lives and damage of public safety just before a month or so.
There should be an accountability for the victims.
Balderas on the other hand tried to use PP's weakness and misused this great event for its cheap political purpose and to build the ego of their failed leader. This is an insult to this big African celebration, Adwa.
Our politicians and activists should just shut up during such events and let the people do what they want to do and how they want to do it in such events and see what happens. They should not try to impose their views and restrictions and most of all they should not misuse such events for their cheap political gains like what Balderas did. By their activities, they do more harm than good in my view.
Believe me our people are mature enough to tolerate and accommodate different views, symbols and what not.
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