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Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 12:49

In security wise yes but economically amhara people are liberal and prefer freemarket also why do u just say goijam? Gondar but not wollo and Shewa Amharas? That is very offensive no amara wants to be left behind

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:08

badme is the last land rewarded to Eritrea. Eritrea can not change its borders into Ethiopia im pretty sure 99% of Eritreans do not want to change their borders. There is no need to change borders. Security cooperation is easy and doesn’t require border change. Amhara can also have its own true leader it doesn’t require joining another country

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:24

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:08

badme is the last land rewarded to Eritrea. Eritrea can not change its borders into Ethiopia im pretty sure 99% of Eritreans do not want to change their borders. There is no need to change borders. Security cooperation is easy and doesn’t require border change. Amhara can also have its own true leader it doesn’t require joining another country

I said confederation, no one has to change their current borders. And trust me, if Eritreans to get access to Welqayit, they will do wonders with that fertile land and the Amara will be well served with Eritrea.
Under Abiy i do see hope, do you?

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:22

In fact if Gondar joins Eritrea. The Gondar Amhara who number around 12 million will outnumber Eritreans and Amharas will become the majority in Eritrea

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:35

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:22

In fact if Gondar joins Eritrea. The Gondar Amhara who number around 12 million will outnumber Eritreans and Amharas will become the majority in Eritrea

I think you are confusing confederation with union. Eritreans will never accept union with any one because it upsets their perfect religious and ethnical chemistry. Eritrea is 50/50 between christian and Muslims, that is the reason they don't want the sub-humans to join Eritrea, despite the sub-humans begging day and night.

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:54

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:35

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:22

In fact if Gondar joins Eritrea. The Gondar Amhara who number around 12 million will outnumber Eritreans and Amharas will become the majority in Eritrea

I think you are confusing confederation with union. Eritreans will never accept union with any one because it upsets their perfect religious and ethnical chemistry. Eritrea is 50/50 between christian and Muslims, that is the reason they don't want the sub-humans to join Eritrea, despite the sub-humans begging day and night.

Address Amhara as one entity and stop with the awraja bulsshxt should i just call Eritrea hamasien and seraye? And what about dankalia Afar? You know where awrajanet leads to you gotta stop it

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:04

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:54

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:35

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:22

In fact if Gondar joins Eritrea. The Gondar Amhara who number around 12 million will outnumber Eritreans and Amharas will become the majority in Eritrea

I think you are confusing confederation with union. Eritreans will never accept union with any one because it upsets their perfect religious and ethnical chemistry. Eritrea is 50/50 between christian and Muslims, that is the reason they don't want the sub-humans to join Eritrea, despite the sub-humans begging day and night.

Address Amhara as one entity and stop with the awraja bulsshxt should i just call Eritrea hamasien and seraye? And what about dankalia Afar? You know where awrajanet leads to you gotta stop it

I don't have to do anything Abiy is doing a marvels on that front. So don't you worry. As far as Eritrea, they have been their and they proved they are stronger than Awraja BS. the Sub-humans tried that on Eritrea be it in religion, Awaraja and language and everything failed. so you are saying that you trust Abiy, right?

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:07

I never trust abiy. He is always changing and mentally and spiritually degenerated.

The problem is Gondar-Gojjam can only join Confederation? with Eritrea but not The rest of Amhara State/Region? Why not just call this Coalition or something else?

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:04

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:54

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:35

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:22

In fact if Gondar joins Eritrea. The Gondar Amhara who number around 12 million will outnumber Eritreans and Amharas will become the majority in Eritrea

I think you are confusing confederation with union. Eritreans will never accept union with any one because it upsets their perfect religious and ethnical chemistry. Eritrea is 50/50 between christian and Muslims, that is the reason they don't want the sub-humans to join Eritrea, despite the sub-humans begging day and night.

Address Amhara as one entity and stop with the awraja bulsshxt should i just call Eritrea hamasien and seraye? And what about dankalia Afar? You know where awrajanet leads to you gotta stop it

I don't have to do anything Abiy is doing a marvels on that front. So don't you worry. As far as Eritrea, they have been their and they proved they are stronger than Awraja BS. the Sub-humans tried that on Eritrea be it in religion, Awaraja and language and everything failed. so you are saying that you trust Abiy, right?

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:14

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:07

I never trust abiy. He is always changing and mentally and spiritually degenerated.

The problem is Gondar-Gojjam can only join Confederation? with Eritrea but not The rest of Amhara State/Region? Why not just call this Coalition or something else?

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:04

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:54

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:35

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:22

In fact if Gondar joins Eritrea. The Gondar Amhara who number around 12 million will outnumber Eritreans and Amharas will become the majority in Eritrea

I think you are confusing confederation with union. Eritreans will never accept union with any one because it upsets their perfect religious and ethnical chemistry. Eritrea is 50/50 between christian and Muslims, that is the reason they don't want the sub-humans to join Eritrea, despite the sub-humans begging day and night.

Address Amhara as one entity and stop with the awraja bulsshxt should i just call Eritrea hamasien and seraye? And what about dankalia Afar? You know where awrajanet leads to you gotta stop it

I don't have to do anything Abiy is doing a marvels on that front. So don't you worry. As far as Eritrea, they have been their and they proved they are stronger than Awraja BS. the Sub-humans tried that on Eritrea be it in religion, Awaraja and language and everything failed. so you are saying that you trust Abiy, right?

All i am saying is thinking out-load because Amara must have an option. Abiy is out to destoy Amara, and Amara needs an option. My option is confederation with Eritrea, what is your option?

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:30

First of all confederate is not the right word. When America was helping the British fight in World War 2 they never spoke of a Confederation rather they agreed on a Military Alliance (NATO) and later a Pan Western Economic Alliance.

So the first that must be done is not to say “confederation” rather “mutual sovereignty alliance” Fano leaders and Isaias should build a diplomatic alliance. Other then that their is no “option” i or Amhara can chose

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:14

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:07

I never trust abiy. He is always changing and mentally and spiritually degenerated.

The problem is Gondar-Gojjam can only join Confederation? with Eritrea but not The rest of Amhara State/Region? Why not just call this Coalition or something else?

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:04

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:54

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:35

I think you are confusing confederation with union. Eritreans will never accept union with any one because it upsets their perfect religious and ethnical chemistry. Eritrea is 50/50 between christian and Muslims, that is the reason they don't want the sub-humans to join Eritrea, despite the sub-humans begging day and night.

Address Amhara as one entity and stop with the awraja bulsshxt should i just call Eritrea hamasien and seraye? And what about dankalia Afar? You know where awrajanet leads to you gotta stop it

I don't have to do anything Abiy is doing a marvels on that front. So don't you worry. As far as Eritrea, they have been their and they proved they are stronger than Awraja BS. the Sub-humans tried that on Eritrea be it in religion, Awaraja and language and everything failed. so you are saying that you trust Abiy, right?

All i am saying is thinking out-load because Amara must have an option. Abiy is out to destoy Amara, and Amara needs an option. My option is confederation with Eritrea, what is your option?

What is the purpose of a confederation?
Confederations are voluntary associations of independent states that, to secure some common purpose, agree to certain limitations on their freedom of action and establish some joint machinery of consultation or deliberation.

Confederations and federations
Confederations are voluntary associations of independent states that, to secure some common purpose, agree to certain limitations on their freedom of action and establish some joint machinery of consultation or deliberation. The limitations on the freedom of action of the member states may be as trivial as an acknowledgment of their duty to consult with each other before taking some independent action or as significant as the obligation to be bound by majority decisions of the member states. Confederations usually fail to provide for an effective executive authority and lack viable central governments; their member states typically retain their separate military establishments and separate diplomatic representation; and members are generally accorded equal status with an acknowledged right of secession from the confederation. The term federation is used to refer to groupings of states, often on a regional basis, that establish central executive machinery to implement policies or to supervise joint activities. In some cases such groupings are motivated primarily by political or economic concerns; in others, military objectives are paramount.

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:41

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:30

First of all confederate is not the right word. When America was helping the British fight in World War 2 they never spoke of a Confederation rather they agreed on a Military Alliance (NATO) and later a Pan Western Economic Alliance.

So the first that must be done is not to say “confederation” rather “mutual sovereignty alliance” Fano leaders and Isaias should build a diplomatic alliance. Other then that their is no “option” i or Amhara can chose

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:14

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:07

I never trust abiy. He is always changing and mentally and spiritually degenerated.

The problem is Gondar-Gojjam can only join Confederation? with Eritrea but not The rest of Amhara State/Region? Why not just call this Coalition or something else?

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:04

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 13:54

Address Amhara as one entity and stop with the awraja bulsshxt should i just call Eritrea hamasien and seraye? And what about dankalia Afar? You know where awrajanet leads to you gotta stop it

I don't have to do anything Abiy is doing a marvels on that front. So don't you worry. As far as Eritrea, they have been their and they proved they are stronger than Awraja BS. the Sub-humans tried that on Eritrea be it in religion, Awaraja and language and everything failed. so you are saying that you trust Abiy, right?

All i am saying is thinking out-load because Amara must have an option. Abiy is out to destoy Amara, and Amara needs an option. My option is confederation with Eritrea, what is your option?

What is the purpose of a confederation?
Confederations are voluntary associations of independent states that, to secure some common purpose, agree to certain limitations on their freedom of action and establish some joint machinery of consultation or deliberation.

Or

Confederations and federations
Confederations are voluntary associations of independent states that, to secure some common purpose, agree to certain limitations on their freedom of action and establish some joint machinery of consultation or deliberation. The limitations on the freedom of action of the member states may be as trivial as an acknowledgment of their duty to consult with each other before taking some independent action or as significant as the obligation to be bound by majority decisions of the member states. Confederations usually fail to provide for an effective executive authority and lack viable central governments; their member states typically retain their separate military establishments and separate diplomatic representation; and members are generally accorded equal status with an acknowledged right of secession from the confederation. The term federation is used to refer to groupings of states, often on a regional basis, that establish central executive machinery to implement policies or to supervise joint activities. In some cases such groupings are motivated primarily by political or economic concerns; in others, military objectives are paramount.

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 12:49

In security wise yes also why do u just say goijam? Gondar but not wollo and Shewa Amharas? That is very offensive no amara wants to be left behind

Shewa Amhara is one of the oldest Amhara groups being mentioned as early as 1128 battling Sultanates and Islamic expansions in Fact Shewa Amharas were the ones who gave Shewa the name Shewa without Shewan Amharas. Shewa would be 99% Muslim like Jimma. Shewa Amharas have alot in common with other Shewans and even with Gurages. Shewa Amharas do not come from Gondar or Gojjam! And are indigenous! Most Shewan Oromos have Shewan Amhara family members so don’t lie to us. Even the dance is very different.

EPRDF wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 14:55

Noble Amhara wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 12:49

In security wise yes also why do u just say goijam? Gondar but not wollo and Shewa Amharas? That is very offensive no amara wants to be left behind

Wollo and Shoa is BEYA OROMO, it is Oromoland before Amhara encroached the fertile land of Oromo in the name of Ethiopian unity.

If separation comes, Wendime Noble, you leave Shoa and Wollo behind and you take a hike with Gondar and Gojam.

If you want to stay in Shoa and Wollo you will be Gudifecaha, you will learn how to speak afaan Oromo and how to dance Shegoye, and you will be allowed to stay as a good citizen of OROMIA. Of course, after the immigration and consulate bureau of the Republic of Oromia carefully examined you how you behave in five years time period.

ZEMEN wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 12:41

If Abiy removed the terrorist designation of TPLF and the rest sub-humans then I am the worst enemy of Abiy and his BS party. I will seriously consider part of Amara, Gonder and Gojjam to join Eritrea under confederation. I am not joking! After what the sub-humans did to Amara, Afar and the Ethiopian defense forces, hell NO. If you are Amara stand up and get ready to every eventuality. It is time.