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ይናገራል የአክሱም ሃውልት-- በርካታ የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳዎች በስም ተጠቅሰው በሃውልቱ ተጽፈዋል አንድም ቦታ ግን ትግሬ አልተጻፈም። ነገሩ በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ነው -የአርፋጁ ትግሬ ታሪክ ዱካው የለም።

Abere wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 14:30

ይናገራል የአክሱም ሃውልት-- በርካታ የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳዎች በስም ተጠቅሰው በሃውልቱ ተጽፈዋል አንድም ቦታ ግን ትግሬ አልተጻፈም። ነገሩ በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ነው -የአርፋጁ ትግሬ ታሪክ ዱካው የለም።

Agame are mentioned in the book of Aksum. There are no Amara and Gurage mentioned. Tigray or Tigrae might have been loose tribal associations. But Tigrayan culture and language is older than Aksumite Kingdom. Tigrayans were part of the pre-Aksumite Kingdoms like Yeha and others.

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 15:21

Abere wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 14:30

ይናገራል የአክሱም ሃውልት-- በርካታ የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳዎች በስም ተጠቅሰው በሃውልቱ ተጽፈዋል አንድም ቦታ ግን ትግሬ አልተጻፈም። ነገሩ በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ነው -የአርፋጁ ትግሬ ታሪክ ዱካው የለም።

Agame are mentioned in the book of Aksum. There are no Amara and Gurage mentioned. Tigray or Tigrae might have been loose tribal associations. But Tigrayan culture and language is older than Aksumite Kingdom. Tigrayans were part of the pre-Aksumite Kingdoms like Yeha and others.

haahaha...

"agames were part of pre-Aksumite kingdom?" Is it possible to be part of something without having an identity? No traces of agames identity enshrined in any historical findings. Probably that was so because agames were slaves who were not allowed to have an identity.

nobody is buying the Agame erected these stone monolithic.

Abaymado wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 15:26

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 15:21

Abere wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 14:30

ይናገራል የአክሱም ሃውልት-- በርካታ የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳዎች በስም ተጠቅሰው በሃውልቱ ተጽፈዋል አንድም ቦታ ግን ትግሬ አልተጻፈም። ነገሩ በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ነው -የአርፋጁ ትግሬ ታሪክ ዱካው የለም።

Agame are mentioned in the book of Aksum. There are no Amara and Gurage mentioned. Tigray or Tigrae might have been loose tribal associations. But Tigrayan culture and language is older than Aksumite Kingdom. Tigrayans were part of the pre-Aksumite Kingdoms like Yeha and others.

haahaha...

"agames were part of pre-Aksumite kingdom?" Is it possible to be part of something without having an identity? No traces of agames identity enshrined in any historical findings. Probably that was so because agames were slaves who were not allowed to have an identity.

Some vocabulary still used in Tigrigna from Akkadian language (2500BCE) - indicates Tigrayans belong to the ancient people of the world ( more ancient than Greece or Rome)

English Akkadian Tigrigna
I Anaku Anae
You atta (m) atti (f) atta (m) atti (f)
We nina nihna
You (pl) attuna (m) attina (f) Esekum (m), nskn (f)
Who mannu men
All Kalu Kulu
Heavy Kabtu Kebid
Small (short) xetru xatsr
Narrow Qatnu Qetin ( Tsebib
Woman Sinnistu Ansti (women)
Mother Ummu Imama (Ado)
Father Abu Abo
Dog Kalbu Kelbi
Seed Zeru Zerie
Blood Damu Dem
Horn Qarnu Qerni
Bone Isemtu Asemti
Head Resu Risie
Tooth Sinnu Sinni
Knee Birku Birki
Neck Kisadu Kisad
Heart Libbu Libi
Tongue Lisanu Lisan (language)
Ear Iznu Izini
Eye Inu Ayni
To drink Satu Setyu (mistay)
To breath Naphasu mtinfas
To laugh Suxxu mshaq (same pronunciation)
To hear Semu Semiu (msmaie)
To die Matu Mumat
To cut Naqasu Mnqas
To sit Wassabu Wassib (mqmat)
To sing Zemaru Zemiru
Moon Warxu Werxi
Star Kakkabu Kokeb
Water Mu May
Rain Zunnu Zenam
Earth Ersetu Rsti (Medri)
Stone Abnu Emni
Sky Samu Semay
Fire Issatu Esat (Hawi)
Black Salmu Tselim (same pronunciation)
Full Malu Mulu (same pronunciation)
Sharp Selu Silet (belih)
Wet ratbu Rihus (ratb)
Name Sumu Sumu (Simka)

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 15:36

Some vocabulary still used in Tigrigna from Akkadian language (2500BCE) - indicates Tigrayans belong to the ancient people of the world ( more ancient than Greece or Rome)

English Akkadian Tigrigna
I Anaku Anae
You atta (m) atti (f) atta (m) atti (f)
We nina nihna
You (pl) attuna (m) attina (f) Esekum (m), nskn (f)
Who mannu men
All Kalu Kulu
Heavy Kabtu Kebid
Small (short) xetru xatsr
Narrow Qatnu Qetin ( Tsebib
Woman Sinnistu Ansti (women)
Mother Ummu Imama (Ado)
Father Abu Abo
Dog Kalbu Kelbi
Seed Zeru Zerie
Blood Damu Dem
Horn Qarnu Qerni
Bone Isemtu Asemti
Head Resu Risie
Tooth Sinnu Sinni
Knee Birku Birki
Neck Kisadu Kisad
Heart Libbu Libi
Tongue Lisanu Lisan (language)
Ear Iznu Izini
Eye Inu Ayni
To drink Satu Setyu (mistay)
To breath Naphasu mtinfas
To laugh Suxxu mshaq (same pronunciation)
To hear Semu Semiu (msmaie)
To die Matu Mumat
To cut Naqasu Mnqas
To sit Wassabu Wassib (mqmat)
To sing Zemaru Zemiru
Moon Warxu Werxi
Star Kakkabu Kokeb
Water Mu May
Rain Zunnu Zenam
Earth Ersetu Rsti (Medri)
Stone Abnu Emni
Sky Samu Semay
Fire Issatu Esat (Hawi)
Black Salmu Tselim (same pronunciation)
Full Malu Mulu (same pronunciation)
Sharp Selu Silet (belih)
Wet ratbu Rihus (ratb)
Name Sumu Sumu (Simka)

fk akadian, akadian is not African before you figure it out about Aksum, you telling different story. First tell us about agame and Aksum kingdom.

ሃውልቶቹ አፍ አውጥተው የሚነግሩን አክሱም ስልጣኔ እና ስርወ መንግስት ከትግሬ ጋር ምንም ዓይነት የደም ይሁን የአጥንት ዝምድና የላቸውም። However, for the last few decades the Tigres are torturing the statute to milk lie out of them. Very sad. ስም ከመቃብር በላይ ይቀራል ይሉ ዘንድ የአክሱም መንግስትን ከመሰረቱት ህዝቦች ወስጥ የበርካታዎቹ የደቡብ ጎሳዎች ስም ዝርዝር አለ፤ ግን በሃውልቱ ላይ ስሙ በፍጹም የሌለውን ትግሬን እረስቶ በአንድ ወቅት ሟች መለስ ዜናዊ የአክሱም ሃውልት ለወላይታ ምኑ ነው ለትግሬ ነው እንጅ ብሎት አረፈ። ባለጌና ዋንጫ ከወደ አፉ ይሰፋል አይደለም የሚባለው ወይስ በገዛ ዳቦየ ልብልቡን አጣሁት ይሻላል። አክሱም መንግስት ሲቋቋም በሃሳብ ይሁን በግብር በአካል ያልነበረው ትግሬ የነበረውን ወላይታ ምን አገባህ ይላል። እንድሁ ነገርን ነገር ያነሳዋል ነው እንጅ የድንጋይ ዘመድ የለውም። በጥንት ዘመን በበርካታ የአለም ዙርያ በላቲን በእስያ ወዘተ በሚገኙ አገራት የድንጋት ትክል እና ሃውልታት አሉ - አንዳንዲቹ እጅግ የሚደንቁ ናቸው። ያው የድንጋይ ዘመን ስልጣኔ ነው ልክ ዛሬ የሸክላ ጡብ ስነ-ህንጻ ስልጣኔ ስለሆነ። ስልጣኔ ደግሞ ድንበር ዘለል ነው ይኮራረጃል። ለዚህ ነው ruined civilization እንድሁ ስለ አለፈው ትውልድ እንጅ እነሱን ስለተካው ትውልድ መጻኢ ወሳኝም እርባናም የላቸውም።

Procopius of Caesarea: History of the Wars, c. 550 CE
Book I.xix.1, 17-22, 27-37, xx.1-13

At that time the idea occurred to the Emperor Justinian to ally himself with the Ethiopians and the Omeritae, in order to injure the Persians. . . .About opposite the Omeritae on the opposite mainland dwell the Ethiopians who are called Auxumitae, because their king resides in the city of Auxomis [Axum]. And the expanse of sea which lies between is crossed in a voyage of five days and nights, when a moderately favoring wind blows. . . .

From the city of Auxumis to the Egyptian boundaries of the Roman domain, where the city called Elephantine is situated, is a journey of thirty days for an unencumbered traveler. Within that space many nations are settled, and among them the Blemmyae and the Nobatae [Nubians], who are very large nations. But the Blemmyae dwell in the central portion of the country, while the Nobatae possess the territory about the River Nile. Formerly this was not the limit of the Roman Empire, but it lay beyond there as far as one would advance in a seven days' journey; but the Roman Emperor Diocletian came there, and observed that the tribute from these places was of the smallest possible account, since the land is at that point extremely narrow (for rocks rise to an exceedingly great height at no great distance from the Nile and spread over the rest of the country), while a very large body of soldiers had been stationed there from of old, the maintenance of which was an excessive burden upon the public; and at the same time the Nobatae who formerly dwelt about the city of Premnis [modern Karanog--now submerged beneath Lake Nasser] used to plunder the whole region; so he persuaded these barbarians to move from their own habitations, and to settle along the River Nile, promising to bestow upon them great cities and land both extensive and incomparably better than that which they had previously occupied. For in this way he thought that they would no longer harass the country about Pselchis [modern Maharraqa--now submerged beneath Lake Nasser] at least, and that they would possess themselves of the land given them, as being their own, and would probably beat off the Blemmyae and the other barbarians.

So each king, promising to put this demand into effect, dismissed the ambassador, but neither one of them did the things agreed upon by them. For it was impossible for the Ethiopians to buy silk from the Indians, for the Persian merchants always locate themselves at the very harbors where the Indian ships first put in (since they inhabit the adjoining country), and are accustomed to buy the whole cargoes; and it seemed to the Omeritae a difficult thing to cross a country which was a desert and which extended so far that a long time was required for the journey across it, and then to go against such a people much more warlike than themselves. Later on Abramus too, when at length he had established his power most securely, promised the Emperor Justinian many times to invade the land of Persia, but only once began the journey and then straightway turned back. Such then were the relations which the Romans had with the Ethiopians and the Omeritae.
Source: www.aksumpost.com

ትግሬዎች ከእውነት ጋር ቅራኔ ውስጥ የሚገኙ - እውነት እንግዳ የሚሆንባቸው ማህበረሰብ። እንደት? በአክሱም ሃውልት ይገለጣል። እንድህም ይመሰላል በላቲን አሜሪካ በሜክስኮ እጅግ ድንቅ የሆነ የጥንት ሰው ስልጣኔ የሆነው የማያዝብ ነው ህዝብ/Mayan Civilization/፡ ከግብጽ ፒራሚድ ክንድ የሚያስለካ የድንጋይ ፒራሚድ፥ እንድሁም መለኮታዊ ቀመር እና ባህል አላቸው። ሆኖም ግን ከጊዜ በኋል የእስፓኝ /Hispanic/ ተወላጆች ፈልሰው በመግባት አሁን የማያ/Maya/ ስልጣኔ ቅርስ ትርጉም እና ይዘቱን የሚያውቅ እና የሚያስረዳ የለም። ማያወቹ ጠፍተው እስፓኝ/Hispanic/ ሁነዋል። የማያነቱ ሳይሆን በእስፓኝነቱ ማለት ነው። አክሱም ሃውልትም በአገው፥በአፋር፥አማራ፥ጉራጌ :ኢሮብ፥ኩናማ ወዘተ ሳይሆን ከዘመን በኋላ ከደቡብ የመን አካዳም Akhdam (አገልጋይ) ከሚባል ጥቁር ህዝብ በመጡት ትግሬዎች መጠራት ከጀመረ በርካታ አስርት አመታት አድርጓል። በመውረስ ማንነት መግዛት ይባላል ይህ።

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 15:36

Some vocabulary still used in Tigrigna from Akkadian language (2500BCE) - indicates Tigrayans belong to the ancient people of the world ( more ancient than Greece or Rome)

English Akkadian Tigrigna
I Anaku Anae
You atta (m) atti (f) atta (m) atti (f)
We nina nihna
You (pl) attuna (m) attina (f) Esekum (m), nskn (f)
Who mannu men
All Kalu Kulu
Heavy Kabtu Kebid
Small (short) xetru xatsr
Narrow Qatnu Qetin ( Tsebib
Woman Sinnistu Ansti (women)
Mother Ummu Imama (Ado)
Father Abu Abo
Dog Kalbu Kelbi
Seed Zeru Zerie
Blood Damu Dem
Horn Qarnu Qerni
Bone Isemtu Asemti
Head Resu Risie
Tooth Sinnu Sinni
Knee Birku Birki
Neck Kisadu Kisad
Heart Libbu Libi
Tongue Lisanu Lisan (language)
Ear Iznu Izini
Eye Inu Ayni
To drink Satu Setyu (mistay)
To breath Naphasu mtinfas
To laugh Suxxu mshaq (same pronunciation)
To hear Semu Semiu (msmaie)
To die Matu Mumat
To cut Naqasu Mnqas
To sit Wassabu Wassib (mqmat)
To sing Zemaru Zemiru
Moon Warxu Werxi
Star Kakkabu Kokeb
Water Mu May
Rain Zunnu Zenam
Earth Ersetu Rsti (Medri)
Stone Abnu Emni
Sky Samu Semay
Fire Issatu Esat (Hawi)
Black Salmu Tselim (same pronunciation)
Full Malu Mulu (same pronunciation)
Sharp Selu Silet (belih)
Wet ratbu Rihus (ratb)
Name Sumu Sumu (Simka)

Tigrigna, ancient people with ancient civilization.

This is my sister Timnit Gebru.

Abere wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 17:28

ትግሬዎች ከእውነት ጋር ቅራኔ ውስጥ የሚገኙ - እውነት እንግዳ የሚሆንባቸው ማህበረሰብ። እንደት? በአክሱም ሃውልት ይገለጣል። እንድህም ይመሰላል በላቲን አሜሪካ በሜክስኮ እጅግ ድንቅ የሆነ የጥንት ሰው ስልጣኔ የሆነው የማያዝብ ነው ህዝብ/Mayan Civilization/፡ ከግብጽ ፒራሚድ ክንድ የሚያስለካ የድንጋይ ፒራሚድ፥ እንድሁም መለኮታዊ ቀመር እና ባህል አላቸው። ሆኖም ግን ከጊዜ በኋል የእስፓኝ /Hispanic/ ተወላጆች ፈልሰው በመግባት አሁን የማያ/Maya/ ስልጣኔ ቅርስ ትርጉም እና ይዘቱን የሚያውቅ እና የሚያስረዳ የለም። ማያወቹ ጠፍተው እስፓኝ/Hispanic/ ሁነዋል። የማያነቱ ሳይሆን በእስፓኝነቱ ማለት ነው። አክሱም ሃውልትም በአገው፥በአፋር፥አማራ፥ጉራጌ :ኢሮብ፥ኩናማ ወዘተ ሳይሆን ከዘመን በኋላ ከደቡብ የመን አካዳም Akhdam (አገልጋይ) ከሚባል ጥቁር ህዝብ በመጡት ትግሬዎች መጠራት ከጀመረ በርካታ አስርት አመታት አድርጓል። በመውረስ ማንነት መግዛት ይባላል ይህ።

You do not make sense. Aksum is a Semitic civilization . The language is Geez and their alphabet is Geez. Tigrayans are ancient people and did not migrate to Africa. Some Tigrayans are Semitic, the majority are black. Your statements are emotional and quite rude. This does not change the historical Tigrayan achievement which has links to Akkadian period which means is older than Greek or Egypt. If you speak Tigrigna "EZINI" means ear in both Akkadian and Tigrigna. Further "Birki" means knee in Akkadian and Tigrigna. "Kisadu" means neck in Akkadian and Tigrigna. "Sinnu" means tooth in Akkadian and Tigrigna. Tigrayans are descendants of Hammaurabis of Mesopotamia , the first empire. The architecture in Tigray is similar to the architecture in Babylon (Mesopotamia). Do not be envious. If Tigrayans have achieved so much and are superior to White Europeans or Egyptians , you should be happy for such great achievement.

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 17:53

Abere wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 17:28

ትግሬዎች ከእውነት ጋር ቅራኔ ውስጥ የሚገኙ - እውነት እንግዳ የሚሆንባቸው ማህበረሰብ። እንደት? በአክሱም ሃውልት ይገለጣል። እንድህም ይመሰላል በላቲን አሜሪካ በሜክስኮ እጅግ ድንቅ የሆነ የጥንት ሰው ስልጣኔ የሆነው የማያዝብ ነው ህዝብ/Mayan Civilization/፡ ከግብጽ ፒራሚድ ክንድ የሚያስለካ የድንጋይ ፒራሚድ፥ እንድሁም መለኮታዊ ቀመር እና ባህል አላቸው። ሆኖም ግን ከጊዜ በኋል የእስፓኝ /Hispanic/ ተወላጆች ፈልሰው በመግባት አሁን የማያ/Maya/ ስልጣኔ ቅርስ ትርጉም እና ይዘቱን የሚያውቅ እና የሚያስረዳ የለም። ማያወቹ ጠፍተው እስፓኝ/Hispanic/ ሁነዋል። የማያነቱ ሳይሆን በእስፓኝነቱ ማለት ነው። አክሱም ሃውልትም በአገው፥በአፋር፥አማራ፥ጉራጌ :ኢሮብ፥ኩናማ ወዘተ ሳይሆን ከዘመን በኋላ ከደቡብ የመን አካዳም Akhdam (አገልጋይ) ከሚባል ጥቁር ህዝብ በመጡት ትግሬዎች መጠራት ከጀመረ በርካታ አስርት አመታት አድርጓል። በመውረስ ማንነት መግዛት ይባላል ይህ።

You do not make sense. Aksum is a Semitic civilization . The language is Geez and their alphabet is Geez. Tigrayans are ancient people and did not migrate to Africa. Some Tigrayans are Semitic, the majority are black. Your statements are emotional and quite rude. This does not change the historical Tigrayan achievement which has links to Akkadian period which means is older than Greek or Egypt. If you speak Tigrigna "EZINI" means ear in both Akkadian and Tigrigna. Further "Birki" means knee in Akkadian and Tigrigna. "Kisadu" means neck in Akkadian and Tigrigna. "Sinnu" means tooth in Akkadian and Tigrigna. Tigrayans are descendants of Hammaurabis of Mesopotamia , the first empire. The architecture in Tigray is similar to the architecture in Babylon (Mesopotamia). Do not be envious. If Tigrayans have achieved so much and are superior to White Europeans or Egyptians , you should be happy for such great achievement.

That is incorrect. The majority are Tigrigna with faces like those of the Orthodox priests of Tigray. One no longer speaks of mixing. The mixing took place long time ago and has stabilized to what is known today as Tigrigna.