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Ethiopian elites seem to be confused about The Galla Migration to Ethiopia in 1530. The Oromos migrated from The Congo, from the area called Lubba. Their migration brought war and misery to Abysinians, who had already established hgh advance culture, government led by kings and law. Abysinninans enjoyed a relatively disciplined civil service with courts functiong and interpreting the law of the country. Abysinia or Ancient Ethiopia or Aksumite Ethiopia was leading in architecture and literature. St. Yared of Aksum was probably the first composer, making musical notes and exapnding Lithurgy of the Orthodox church.

The Oromos migrated to Ethiopia around 1550 unfortunately at a time when ethiopia is attacked by ahmed Gragn and Ottoman Turks. Chruchew were annihlated. Men were killed and their women taken by the Oromos. Children were also taken as captives by the oromo.
The attack of the Oromos was catastrphic they use Guerilla warfare. They will attack villages at night and rob people thier property. They marhed to Gonder and Raya of Tigray. Oromos finally were destroyed made slaves of amhara/Tigray nobility.

In the early 2oth Century, the Oromos asserted themselves as victims of Abysinina rule. Haile Selassie used them against the rebellion in Eritrea and Tigray. Some Oromos occupied key posts in the imperial an dlater military government. Howerver, they failed to integrte and build a democratic Ethiopia. TPLF overhtrew the military government and established a new government which favoured Oromos. the Oromos were given large tract of area as their homeland or province. In actual fact most of the territory now under Oromo belonged to Amhara people or other other non-Oromo tribes like Sidama, Guraghe. Omotiv tribes etc
The Oromo should not be allowed to destroy Ethiopia. We need to drive them out of Ethiopia.

Ethiopia should discard ethnic federalism. We need to build a democratic united Ethiopia.

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 08:24

Ethiopian elites seem to be confused about The Galla Migration to Ethiopia in 1530. The Oromos migrated from The Congo, from the area called Lubba. Their migration brought war and misery to Abysinians, who had already established hgh advance culture, government led by kings and law. Abysinninans enjoyed a relatively disciplined civil service with courts functiong and interpreting the law of the country. Abysinia or Ancient Ethiopia or Aksumite Ethiopia was leading in architecture and literature. St. Yared of Aksum was probably the first composer, making musical notes and exapnding Lithurgy of the Orthodox church.
The Oromos migrated to Ethiopia around 1550 unfortunately at a time when ethiopia is attacked by ahmed Gragn and Ottoman Turks. Chruchew were annihlated. Men were killed and their women taken by the Oromos. Children were also taken as captives by the oromo.
The attack of the Oromos was catastrphic they use Guerilla warfare. They will attack villages at night and rob people thier property. They marhed to Gonder and Raya of Tigray. Oromos finally were destroyed made slaves of amhara/Tigray nobility.
In the early 2oth Century, the Oromos asserted themselves as victims of Abysinina rule. Haile Selassie used them against the rebellion in Eritrea and Tigray. Some Oromos occupied key posts in the imperial an dlater military government. Howerver, they failed to integrte and build a democratic Ethiopia. TPLF overhtrew the military government and established a new government which favoured Oromos. the Oromos were given large tract of area as their homeland or province. In actual fact most of the territory now under Oromo belonged to Amhara people or other other non-Oromo tribes like Sidama, Guraghe. Omotiv tribes etc
The Oromo should not be allowed to destroy Ethiopia. We need to drive them out of Ethiopia.
Ethiopia should discard ethnic federalism. We need to build a democratic united Ethiopia.

To the ignorant of history of Horn of Africa (HA)
There was no Oromo migration outside of Horn of Africa. That fabricated view of habesha clergies and debteras was a lie out of fear of Oromo nation. Instead the truth is that habesha immigrated to Horn of Africa from habish land aka South Yemen of today's world. The facts that habesh has no belongingness on the ground of HA (in the naturally defined territory of Cush kingdom) and that the carry history of Queen Sheba (read bible kings 10 and chronicles 11) of Yemen is simple prove to that.

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ብቸኛው የኦሮሞ ህዝብ ባለውለታ - አባ ብሕርይ ወይም አባ ኦሮሞ(ጋላ)
https://ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com/201 ... 22011.html
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አለም በሙሉ በጨለማ ይኖር በነበረበት በ16ኛው መቶ ክፍለ ዘመን አባ ባሕርይ የሚባሉ ኢትዮጵያዊ ከዚህ ዘመን የታሪክ ምሁራን ሙያዊ ፥ ስነምግባራዊ እና ሚዛናዊነት ብቃት በላቀ ሁኔታ እርሳቸው በሚኖሩበት ዘመን የጋላ ወይም ኦሮሞ ህዝብ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ፈልሶ በወረራ ሲገባ በአይናቸው ያዩትን ጽፈዋል። ይህ ታሪካዊ ሰነድ ብቸኛው ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ የማንነት ምንጭ ነው። አባ ባህርይ ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ በጣም ባለውለታ ናቸው። የተጻፈ ይወረሳል፥ በቃል ያለ ይረሳል ውሸትም ይሆናል። ኦሮሞዎች የጡት ድንጋይ ከመትከል ለአባ ብህርይ ሃውልት ቢያቆሙ የበለጠ ትርጉም አለው።
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ኦሮሞዎች ትክክለኛ ታሪካቸውን እና ማንነታቸውን እንዳያውቁ እንቅፋት የሆኑ ኦነጋዊያን ናቸው። ኦነጎች ኦሮሞ የባንቱ የቋንቋ ነገድ ስለመሆናቸው ይክዳሉ፤ እውነታው ግን ኦሮምኛ የባንቱ እንዱ ዝርያ ነው፥ኦሮሞ ብ16ኛው ክፍለዘመን ወደ ኢትዮጵያ የገባ ህዝብ ዳሩ ግን በሞጋሳ ሌሎችን ኦሮሞ የደረገ ነው። ለመሆኑ ኢትዮጵያን ለምን ስለኦሮሞ ብቻ የተሳሳተ ነገር ሊጽፉ ይፈልጋሉ፥ ለምን ስለሌሎቹስ አይጽፉም ነበር? ይህን ነው መጠየቅ ያለበን። እውነት ስለሆነ እንጅ እውነት ባይሆን ኑሮ አባ ባህርይ ጊዜያቸውን በከንቱ አያጠፉም ነበር። ተመሳሳይ ክስተት ቢኖር ኑሮ በሌሊችም ላይ በጻፉ ነበር። የኦሮሞ ታሪክ አባ ባህርይ ያጠናቀሩት መረጃ ነው። አሁን ኦሮሞ ኢትዮጵያዊ ነው፤ በውሸት ግን የነበረውን ታሪክ መቀየር አይቻልም። ኦሮሞ መጤ ነው። ምናልባት ወደ ኢትዮጵያ በመጨረሻ በመፍለስ የገባ - ከእዚህ በሗላ ቢኖር ቻይና ብቻ ናት (ለፈገግታ ያህል ነው የቻይናዋ ምሳሌ)።

You are so desperate for your Tigray to get out of it's current predicament. I get it. However, you need to be realistic. We Oromos ain't going nowhere. We're native to the horn of Africa just like everyone else. We conquered lands just like everyone else did. In reality, you envy us Oromos. If Tigray were even a third as expansive and resource rich as Oromia, you'd be willing to consider an independent Tigray as being viable... But it's not!
If you want to propose an alliance between tigrayans and anyone, to fight a perceived "enemy", i.e. the Oromo, then just say that.

Abere wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 12:45

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ብቸኛው የኦሮሞ ህዝብ ባለውለታ - አባ ብሕርይ ወይም አባ ኦሮሞ(ጋላ)
https://ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com/201 ... 22011.html
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አለም በሙሉ በጨለማ ይኖር በነበረበት በ16ኛው መቶ ክፍለ ዘመን አባ ባሕርይ የሚባሉ ኢትዮጵያዊ ከዚህ ዘመን የታሪክ ምሁራን ሙያዊ ፥ ስነምግባራዊ እና ሚዛናዊነት ብቃት በላቀ ሁኔታ እርሳቸው በሚኖሩበት ዘመን የጋላ ወይም ኦሮሞ ህዝብ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ፈልሶ በወረራ ሲገባ በአይናቸው ያዩትን ጽፈዋል። ይህ ታሪካዊ ሰነድ ብቸኛው ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ የማንነት ምንጭ ነው። አባ ባህርይ ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ በጣም ባለውለታ ናቸው። የተጻፈ ይወረሳል፥ በቃል ያለ ይረሳል ውሸትም ይሆናል። ኦሮሞዎች የጡት ድንጋይ ከመትከል ለአባ ብህርይ ሃውልት ቢያቆሙ የበለጠ ትርጉም አለው።
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ኦሮሞዎች ትክክለኛ ታሪካቸውን እና ማንነታቸውን እንዳያውቁ እንቅፋት የሆኑ ኦነጋዊያን ናቸው። ኦነጎች ኦሮሞ የባንቱ የቋንቋ ነገድ ስለመሆናቸው ይክዳሉ፤ እውነታው ግን ኦሮምኛ የባንቱ እንዱ ዝርያ ነው፥ኦሮሞ ብ16ኛው ክፍለዘመን ወደ ኢትዮጵያ የገባ ህዝብ ዳሩ ግን በሞጋሳ ሌሎችን ኦሮሞ የደረገ ነው። ለመሆኑ ኢትዮጵያን ለምን ስለኦሮሞ ብቻ የተሳሳተ ነገር ሊጽፉ ይፈልጋሉ፥ ለምን ስለሌሎቹስ አይጽፉም ነበር? ይህን ነው መጠየቅ ያለበን። እውነት ስለሆነ እንጅ እውነት ባይሆን ኑሮ አባ ባህርይ ጊዜያቸውን በከንቱ አያጠፉም ነበር። ተመሳሳይ ክስተት ቢኖር ኑሮ በሌሊችም ላይ በጻፉ ነበር። የኦሮሞ ታሪክ አባ ባህርይ ያጠናቀሩት መረጃ ነው። አሁን ኦሮሞ ኢትዮጵያዊ ነው፤ በውሸት ግን የነበረውን ታሪክ መቀየር አይቻልም። ኦሮሞ መጤ ነው። ምናልባት ወደ ኢትዮጵያ በመጨረሻ በመፍለስ የገባ - ከእዚህ በሗላ ቢኖር ቻይና ብቻ ናት (ለፈገግታ ያህል ነው የቻይናዋ ምሳሌ)።

Abere
ደደብ!
habesha clergies and debteras የሚለው እኮ ከጥንታዊዎቹ እነ በህሬንና ዘመዶቹን ሲያጠቃልል ከዘመናዊዎቹ ደብተራዎች ደግሞ እነ ባህሩ ዘውዴንና ፕ/ር ሙት ጌታቸው ሀይሌንም ያጠቃልላል፡፡

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 15:25

You are so desperate for your Tigray to get out of it's current predicament. I get it. However, you need to be realistic. We Oromos ain't going nowhere. We're native to the horn of Africa just like everyone else. We conquered lands just like everyone else did. In reality, you envy us Oromos. If Tigray were even a third as expansive and resource rich as Oromia, you'd be willing to consider an independent Tigray as being viable... But it's not!
If you want to propose an alliance between tigrayans and anyone, to fight a perceived "enemy", i.e. the Oromo, then just say that.

Oromos or Galla came from The Congo. We can deport you to Congo because you are destabilizing our population. We have the port to create forced re-migration to Kenya, Uganda or down south to Congo. The problem is Ethiopians are divided. There is no clear leadership based on principle. I do not care Tigray people. I care about Ethiopians as a whole. Ethiopia is a Christian country with The Holy Bible written in Geez. It is the source of Islam. Animists like Oromos do not belong here. Oromos threaten Ethiopians and Ethiopians will have to address that. History is not yet ended. The Jewish Pogrom or The Rwanda Pogrom or The Armenian Pogrom are just examples.

AbebeB,
አንተ የዕውቀት ፆመኛ መቸ ይሆን አንተ በእውቀት የምትፈስከው? ኦሮሞ ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለም ያለ የለም - ከየትም ይምጣ ይምጣ ከየት ያዛሬ 450 አመት በፊት የነበረ ጉዳይ አሁን ጥቅም የለውም። ታሪኩ ግን እውነት ስለሆነ የግድ ትውልድ ሊያውቀው ይገባል በሚል ነው። ተጽፎ ያለው የታሪክ መረጃ እንደ መመርመር ኦነጋዊያን የልብ ወለድ ፈጠራ ትርክት ላይ መጠመዳችሁ የበሽተኛነት እንጅ የችሎታ መራቀቅ አይደለም።

ደግሞስ እውነት ካልሆነ ለምን ስለ ኦሮሞ ታሪክ የዛሬ 450 አመት ይጽፋል። የዛን ዘመን ሰው እጅግ እውነተኛ ነው። ውሸት ለመጻፍ ያን ይህል አይታክትም፥ መጻፍ ከፈለገ ደግሞ ለምን ስለሌሎችስ አይሆንም ነበር። ይህን ነው መጠየቅ ያለባችሁ - ኦነጎች። የኦሮሞ ታሪክ እንድ ደበቅ እና እንዳይታወቅ ጎጅ ስራ እየሰራችሁ ነው። አርቲፊሻል ታሪክ ፍለጋ ገባያ ላይ ናችሁ - አማካሪ እያፈላለጋችሁ።

AbebeB wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 15:51

Abere wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 12:45

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ብቸኛው የኦሮሞ ህዝብ ባለውለታ - አባ ብሕርይ ወይም አባ ኦሮሞ(ጋላ)
https://ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com/201 ... 22011.html
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አለም በሙሉ በጨለማ ይኖር በነበረበት በ16ኛው መቶ ክፍለ ዘመን አባ ባሕርይ የሚባሉ ኢትዮጵያዊ ከዚህ ዘመን የታሪክ ምሁራን ሙያዊ ፥ ስነምግባራዊ እና ሚዛናዊነት ብቃት በላቀ ሁኔታ እርሳቸው በሚኖሩበት ዘመን የጋላ ወይም ኦሮሞ ህዝብ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ፈልሶ በወረራ ሲገባ በአይናቸው ያዩትን ጽፈዋል። ይህ ታሪካዊ ሰነድ ብቸኛው ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ የማንነት ምንጭ ነው። አባ ባህርይ ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ በጣም ባለውለታ ናቸው። የተጻፈ ይወረሳል፥ በቃል ያለ ይረሳል ውሸትም ይሆናል። ኦሮሞዎች የጡት ድንጋይ ከመትከል ለአባ ብህርይ ሃውልት ቢያቆሙ የበለጠ ትርጉም አለው።
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ኦሮሞዎች ትክክለኛ ታሪካቸውን እና ማንነታቸውን እንዳያውቁ እንቅፋት የሆኑ ኦነጋዊያን ናቸው። ኦነጎች ኦሮሞ የባንቱ የቋንቋ ነገድ ስለመሆናቸው ይክዳሉ፤ እውነታው ግን ኦሮምኛ የባንቱ እንዱ ዝርያ ነው፥ኦሮሞ ብ16ኛው ክፍለዘመን ወደ ኢትዮጵያ የገባ ህዝብ ዳሩ ግን በሞጋሳ ሌሎችን ኦሮሞ የደረገ ነው። ለመሆኑ ኢትዮጵያን ለምን ስለኦሮሞ ብቻ የተሳሳተ ነገር ሊጽፉ ይፈልጋሉ፥ ለምን ስለሌሎቹስ አይጽፉም ነበር? ይህን ነው መጠየቅ ያለበን። እውነት ስለሆነ እንጅ እውነት ባይሆን ኑሮ አባ ባህርይ ጊዜያቸውን በከንቱ አያጠፉም ነበር። ተመሳሳይ ክስተት ቢኖር ኑሮ በሌሊችም ላይ በጻፉ ነበር። የኦሮሞ ታሪክ አባ ባህርይ ያጠናቀሩት መረጃ ነው። አሁን ኦሮሞ ኢትዮጵያዊ ነው፤ በውሸት ግን የነበረውን ታሪክ መቀየር አይቻልም። ኦሮሞ መጤ ነው። ምናልባት ወደ ኢትዮጵያ በመጨረሻ በመፍለስ የገባ - ከእዚህ በሗላ ቢኖር ቻይና ብቻ ናት (ለፈገግታ ያህል ነው የቻይናዋ ምሳሌ)።

Abere
ደደብ!
habesha clergies and debteras የሚለው እኮ ከጥንታዊዎቹ እነ በህሬንና ዘመዶቹን ሲያጠቃልል ከዘመናዊዎቹ ደብተራዎች ደግሞ እነ ባህሩ ዘውዴንና ፕ/ር ሙት ጌታቸው ሀይሌንም ያጠቃልላል፡፡

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 15:59

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2022, 15:25

You are so desperate for your Tigray to get out of it's current predicament. I get it. However, you need to be realistic. We Oromos ain't going nowhere. We're native to the horn of Africa just like everyone else. We conquered lands just like everyone else did. In reality, you envy us Oromos. If Tigray were even a third as expansive and resource rich as Oromia, you'd be willing to consider an independent Tigray as being viable... But it's not!
If you want to propose an alliance between tigrayans and anyone, to fight a perceived "enemy", i.e. the Oromo, then just say that.

Oromos or Galla came from The Congo. We can deport you to Congo because you are destabilizing our population. We have the port to create forced re-migration to Kenya, Uganda or down south to Congo. The problem is Ethiopians are divided. There is no clear leadership based on principle. I do not care Tigray people. I care about Ethiopians as a whole. Ethiopia is a Christian country with The Holy Bible written in Geez. It is the source of Islam. Animists like Oromos do not belong here. Oromos threaten Ethiopians and Ethiopians will have to address that. History is not yet ended. The Jewish Pogrom or The Rwanda Pogrom or The Armenian Pogrom are just examples.

Liar, we know, and you know very well, that you're lying. What you're proposing is simply unrealistic, but hey feel free to waste your time posting nonsensical things that can never, and will never occur. You have that right.
Who is destabilizing Ethiopia? The peaceful Oromo farmer, student, merchant, etc, or? Enlighten us/me!
You ''care'' for Ethiopia, yet based on your past posts, over half of Ethiopia [Oromo and Amhara-the backbone of Ethiopia], aren't ''Ethiopians'' and aren't ''from Ethiopia.'' Then, you went on to accuse Somali's of not being Ethiopian. So, basically, you've reviled, insulted and denigrated over 60% of Ethiopia... but sure, keep telling us more about how ''you care for Ethiopia and not just for tigray!" Ha!
Ethiopia is NOT a Christian country, it belongs to all of its children, Muslim, Christian, Animist, etc.
Who's ''Ethiopians''? Tigrayans, right? Well, you guys are surrounded by enemies, and not in the place to threaten ANYONE right now, so I'd relax if I were you; Oromo's chased your heavily armed elites with NO ARMS, so if Oromo pick up arms, imagine the outcome? Ha!