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Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 12:16
by OPFist
Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet Dictator to Pro-Oromumma Democrat?
Good to observe that the ruling pro-Amharanet prosperitans are devided and they already started to fight each other. These Oromo prosperitans, who are determined to keep the existing domination of Amharanet/Amharigna are now accusing each other. One group led by Abiy Ahmed is accused as regionalist, which is committed to divide the Oromo based on regions in order to weaken the Oromo nationsl struggle for freedom. The other group led by Shimelis Abdissa is crimincriminalized of corruption and extrajudicial killings. The war between the two factions of the ruling pro-Amharanet dictators is going on. Both these anti- Oromumma groups are trying to win support and sympathy of Oromo people, which they surely never get. To attain this support, one of them may start to promote Afaan Oromo or Oromumma to its legitimate leadership position in Ethiopia (Great Oromia). But, the burning question is, who of the two has such gut and try to be the first?
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https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2018 ... situation/
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 12:52
by EwnetYashenifal
Lencho Letta, your BS question should read instead: "Which one of them may be transformed from Pro-Amharanet/Pro-Oromummanet to Ethiopiawinet?" You Ethiopia and unity basher !!! When are you going to overcome the ethno-inferiroity complex and be a human being?
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 14:33
by DefendTheTruth
Now you turned to what you do best: Divide Oromos and make them weak, you are well skilled in that, we know for sure that much. It is your profession.
I know your skill from my own experience abroad. First you splitted the Oromos from the rest of Ethiopia, by telling them Oromos are not Ethiopians (or in your parlance also not Habasha, Oromo is Un-Habasha).
After Oromo community was successfully got splitted from the rest of Ethiopians, then you turned to splitting Oromos on different seams, religion, region and political affiliations, most notably.
Part of the Oromo community was not an Oromo for you, but Gobanas or somebody else, those who pursued Orthodox church doctrines were not Christians, they were given other names.
After you moved to back home, you claim in public about subscribing to the idea of Ethiopia as a country of multicultural polity, but then turn around and disguise yourself and claim day-in and day-out about dividing Ethiopians based on their linguistic and other cultural affiliations.
Now it seems that the party currently in power looked to your ambition an hindrance, and it has to be removed from there. First it needed to be divided and then weakend before finally removing it.
I hope Ethiopians in general and the Oromo people in particular have already drawn their lessons by now sufficiently and know you well for what you are.
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Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 14:38
by OPFist
Otherwise, non of the existing Oromo organization has got optimal solution for the Oromo question. For instance, both ODF and OLF didn’t yet get an optimal solution for the unique situation of the Oromo. Union Ethiopia (multinational federation) of ODF is good for minority at the center (mac) and an independent Oromia of OLF is nice for minority at the periphery (map). Oromo nation is neither mac nor map, but majority over all (moa) of the country. An optimal solution thus can be just taking over the whole state of Ethiopia and name it Oromia. Let other nations have their right to self-determination from the Oromo, be it in ODF’s model or OLF’s style.
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 15:05
by Noble Amhara
Amharanet means anyone who leaves amhara people alone in peace!
Amharanet to you is anyone who doesn’t kill amharas!!
Gedaye!
Blood su’cker you are don’t know politics!
Shimles Abdisa has done nothing for amhara people he has helped Oromos in many different ways
it's funny when you thought weyane was beating us amharas you declared to the release and division of agows from Amharas, I told you that your stupid division tactic won't work at all. the Afar and Agew were fighting Weyane the whole time Amhara helped Agews be liberated. Go and See Sekota videos TPLF looted and destroyed all hospitals in agew-medir and afar-kilil. the sad thing is you are to blinded by hate to understand anything at all you only know your white mans tactic of Divide and Conquer
You won’t respond robot!
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 16:29
by OPFist
For the Oromo, our moa politics should concentrate on realizing Great Oromia (democratized Ethiopia), where Afaan Oromo will be primary working language of the union and the whole country be named Oromia, instead of Ethiopia. Thus, Oromo’s strategy should be to dismantle the empire state, foster a union state & give an own state for others, if they want. Secession is not and can not be Oromo’s agenda. The Oromo are unique in the globe to be dominated as a majority nation all over the country and having political center of the empire as its own capital. So, all the five moves undertaken by Oromo nationalists till now are not optimal solutions for such unique situation:
1. Ob. Lamma Magarsaa working with the hegemonists,
2. Ob. Andargachew struggling together with the unitarists,
3. Gn. Kamal opting for an independent Gadaa Oromia,
4. Ob. Dawud asking for referendum on ‘independent Oromia vs union Ethiopia’ and
5. Ob. Leencoo choosing union Ethiopia
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 16:38
by AbebeB
EwnetYashenifal wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 12:52
Lencho Letta, your BS question should read instead: "Which one of them may be transformed from Pro-Amharanet/Pro-Oromummanet to Ethiopiawinet?" You Ethiopia and unity basher !!! When are you going to overcome the ethno-inferiroity complex and be a human being?
EwnetYashenifal,
On my own right, I found your question is plausible and begs reasonable and factual response. Therefore, my response to your "when ...ethno-inferiority" is when hybrids become pure line ethnic descendants in Ethiopia.
And my response to your "when ...human being" is that when the savage monkey and leper Amhara evolve to level of human being and thus be able to discuss ideas but not individuals and nations.

Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 01:42
by OPFist
These are not best solutions for the Oromo. Oromo people, as the majority all over the country, need to takeover the state power in Tulluu Daalatti palace of Finfinne and then dismantle the empire system, foster union state called Oromia and give right to self-determination up to forging their own independent state for other nations, who are far away from the political center – Finfinne, including for Bahirdar of Amhara state and Maqale of Tegaru state!
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 03:06
by TGAA
OPFist wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 01:42
These are not best solutions for the Oromo. Oromo people, as the majority all over the country, need to takeover the state power in Tulluu Daalatti palace of Finfinne and then dismantle the empire system, foster union state called Oromia and give right to self-determination up to forging their own independent state for other nations, who are far away from the political center – Finfinne, including for Bahirdar of Amhara state and Maqale of Tegaru state!
You are revolving around the sun of your own creation. As deluded as you are one has to give you recognition for churning out nonsense Ad nauseam and constantly for being inconstant. Your project is as grandiose as to change the historical juncture that had taken under Yekonu in 12 century Ethiopia, that is a project on the scale of the Manhattan nuclear bomb . Your poor understanding of Ethiopian politics is clear for any layman let alone for anyone who turned a page or two. You think that you "Oromos" have the wherewithal to take what they want -- such as Addis Ababa, Ethiopians let you change the name, Ethiopia that they have died for centuries,to Oromia, make Oromuffa the primary language of the federal state without others having a say on it; what 3/4 of Ethiopians going to take in exchange? take their independence leaving all the Golds in your luggage to you, leaving the country they die for they toile for-- to the new-minted mogassas. Instead of spilling ink day and night -- here is a more practical choice you have. Get ready to fight and impose your will on the rest of Ethiopians that is 3/4 of Ethiopians then you can take and impose what you will. I guarantee you -- you will not think about it let alone accomplish it.
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 08:08
by OPFist
Regarding Oromo’s unique colonial situation and the necessary optimal solution, we know that there were many colonized or dominated nations in the globe to be compared. All wanted to be liberated from subjugation and demanded their right to self-determination. There are five types of such nations and the Oromo are unique having our own situation not shared by any other nation in the world. The five groups are:
1. those colonized by oversee colonizers like Europeans subjugating Africans. The solution for such domination was an external self-dertermination in a sense of complete independence. Some Oromo nationals try to equate Oromo’s situation with this and demand an independent republic of Gadaa Oromia without necessarily having referendum. OLF of Ob. Galasaa Dilbo chose this way. But is Oromia colonized by oversee nation to apply such solution?
2. minority nations at the periphery dominated by the centeral power; e.g Eritrea, South Sudan, Kosovo, East Timor, Ogaden…etc. The required self-determination was defined as having referendum on: ‘independence from the political center’ vs ‘post freedom political union with the center’. Ob. Dawud Ibsa’s OLF is following this approach. But is Oromia at periphery not to affect self-determination right of others by excercising its own. North Ethiopia and South Ethiopia will be separated without their free will just if the Oromo decide for our independence.
3. minority nations at the center under domination of another nation; e.g the Gurage, Harari, Hadiya, Kambata…etc. For such nations, good solution is internal self-determination within a union by getting rid of the system of domination and achieving self-rule within shared rule, without necessary referendum. ODF of Ob. Leencoo Lataa and OFC of Dr. Marara wanted to apply such solution. But are the Oromo such minority at the center?
4. major nation with dominating culture, but being exploited and oppressed by its own internal dictators and tyrants. Such nations usually struggle to get rid of their own subjugators, thus concentrate more on freedom struggle in a sense of dismantling the system and replace it with possibly democratic States and justice for all peoples in the country without considering right of nations to self-determination, be it external or internal. AG7 of Ob. Andargachew Tsige (also an Oromo) being influenced by Amhara elites with dominating culture and language in the country belongs here. But does this serve an interest of Oromo nation with hitherto dominated (not dominating) culture and language?
5. minority nation dominating the politcal center but masked as an inclusive multi-national force and formally accepting self-rule of nations, though in reality following very tight centeralist party rule. The TPLF regime followed this deceptiv move and OPDO of Ob. Lammaa Magarsaa working with this group surely served only an interest of the hegemonist minority Tigrean elites.
Re: Premier Abiy Ahmed vs President Shimelis Abdissa: Who of Them May be Transformed from Pro-Amharanet to Pro-Oromumma?
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 09:08
by OPFist
The Oromo as major nation at the center or all over the country being dominated by smaller neighbouring nation was unique condition, which required unique solution. There is no such big nation, where the political center is its own center, but politically marginalized and colonized in the world; the Oromo must be the only one. Such unique situation required unique solution. The above five approachs are not optimal. The optimal approach here should be to liberate the center (Caffee Araara of Finfinne) and take over the state machinary in order to transform the empire into a union; if necessary, changing flag of the federation, language of the union and name of the country. Then the Oromo can allow others to have their self-determination in above three ways (autonomy, referendum or independence). The Oromo should act as future giver of those rights, not as reciever from the minor nations, be it from Amhara of Bahirdar or Tegaru of Maqale. May Waaqa open our eyes to see an optimal solution for our unique situaion! Sure is that both the Premier and the President have no gut to accomplish this unique solution for the unique situation of the Oromo. Who then will be bold enough to do it?