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[Misraq]

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[Sholla Addis]

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ገንዘብ ግለሰቦች ደም እንዲጠጡ ያነሳሳቸዋል, ጥላቻ ግን ለእነዚህ ሴቶች ገንዘብ እንዲልኩ ያነሳሳቸዋል.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Getting the record straight: The only crime my daughter Hermela Aregawi and I have is being born as women to the Tigrean society. Having one of the worst cultures on women on planet earth, women having an independent mind is a foreign concept to Tigray and Tigreans. This undoubtedly have been proven by how the Tigreans have been treating us on the global board. We don’t mind being trailblazers.

This has nothing to do with the independence of women or gender equality which is hyped in the west and highlighted by the Mother of Hermela , This has to do with herd mentality on which the leeches have implanted on every Tigrian. They have indoctrinated Tigrians to echo every crap the leeches have preached.

With all the respect To Hermela aregawi and her mother, she is out of order when she claimS that Tigrians have some how have the worst culture on women. If she is against Patriarchal society in General, it is one thing but to badmouth the culture which raised her in an effort to defend her daughter is another.

[Revelations]

Shining light in the darkness of bad culture is not badmouthing, unless you're also the celebrator and beneficiary of such bad culture/value.


Mom Helped Son Behead His Pregnant Sister Before He Posed for a Selfie, Police Say

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This has nothing to do with the independence of women or gender equality which is hyped in the west and highlighted by the Mother of Hermela , This has to do with herd mentality on which the leeches have implanted on every Tigrian. They have indoctrinated Tigrians to echo every crap the leeches have preached.

With all the respect To Hermela aregawi and her mother, she is out of order when she claimS that Tigrians have some how have the worst culture on women. If she is against Patriarchal society in General, it is one thing but to badmouth the culture which raised her in an effort to defend her daughter is another.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Shining light in the darkness of bad culture is not badmouthing, unless you're also the celebrator and beneficiary of such bad culture/value.

Yemane Negus was not of a female gender but he was gunned down in the middle of Mekele just because he opposed the leeches, The reason why the leeches are framing and character assassinating Hermela Aregawi has nothing to do with the organ between her legs but with her independent and opposing views. This is what I am trying to convey weizero Asleqash!

[Misraq]

Honorable Arawit,

Well the woman who is a Tigrayan said it all which we often call it "from the horse's mouth". Believing that you are an outsider to Tigray society, she can speak about the society she is part of better than you or anyone else. To add to this, Tigray is a culture where raping a woman is considered OK. Rape is common scenario in Tigray society and Meaza Giday (the current tplf propogandist in the west) hereself admitted it on her tweets before she delete it recently when TPLF is deposed. so tell me which society in the world is OK with rape?

These two women, mother and daughter recieve thousands of slanderous insults from their people often citing their womanhood.

By the way, are you Tigrayan? or hybrid? or somesort?

[DefendTheTruth]

This has nothing to do with the independence of women or gender equality which is hyped in the west and highlighted by the Mother of Hermela , This has to do with herd mentality on which the leeches have implanted on every Tigrian. They have indoctrinated Tigrians to echo every crap the leeches have preached.

With all the respect To Hermela aregawi and her mother, she is out of order when she claimS that Tigrians have some how have the worst culture on women. If she is against Patriarchal society in General, it is one thing but to badmouth the culture which raised her in an effort to defend her daughter is another.

Herd mentality is a big challenge for many years to come in my view for the whole of our societies, because we fostered it for our own political expediency, purposely. The long term damage was conveniently ignored, we have seen many things happen in our time. We are paying the price. It is not limited to Tigray these days, to be honest here.

Critical and independent thinking was deliberately subdued in our society, boundaries were drawn and the thinking pattern was prescribed for all on the other sides of the "boundary" to adhere to that pattern. We are going to have a big homework for many years to come.

At the same time I can't consciously deny that there is a culture based bias in our society (of the bigger region), that has to be also tackled. If we can't tackle it, then this will also going to end hurting us for years to come. Just because it is our culture, it doesn't mean that it is not critc prone.

The way forward is to look at it critically and try to mend it, if some components of our culture are incompatible with current norms and today's world outlook, for this to happen the first step is also openly talking about it and this lady deserved a respect in my view. We have to think about why she said it. An open society must be ready to adopt to new realities and adjust itself for the future demands.

Stagnant society will only hurt itself, because it is simply closed to the outside world and that will hurt over the long run as well.

I am falling in love with what this family values as member of a society, have a high regard for their openness and forward looking attitudes. But I don't know them, we need many more like this family to change our society, in my view again.

[Revelations]

Shining light in the darkness of bad culture is not badmouthing, unless you're also the celebrator and beneficiary of such bad culture/value.

Yemane Negus was not of a female gender but he was gunned down in the middle of Mekele just because he opposed the leeches, The reason why the leeches are framing and character assassinating Hermela Aregawi has nothing to do with the organ between her legs but with her independent and opposing views. This is what I am trying to convey weizero Asleqash!

We can be confident that both Yemane Negus and you got your seven eleltas when you were born, were not raped or beaten by women, were not considered unclean for being male when approaching a church..etc. Don't try to defend the indefensible.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Honorable Arawit,

Well the woman who is a Tigrayan said it all which we often call it "from the horse's mouth". Believing that you are an outsider to Tigray society, she can speak about the society she is part of better than you or anyone else. To add to this, Tigray is a culture where raping a woman is considered OK. Rape is common scenario in Tigray society and Meaza Giday (the current tplf propogandist in the west) hereself admitted it on her tweets before she delete it recently when TPLF is deposed. so tell me which society in the world is OK with rape?

These two women, mother and daughter recieve thousands of slanderous insults from their people often citing their womanhood.

By the way, are you Tigrayan? or hybrid? or somesort?

Aite Misraq
Before liberalism was stashed in our throats by former communist and current left wing politicians, the region had a custom on which girls virginity is cherished and respected and I presume Tigrians are no different. If some how, you dare to [deleted] a girl and dishonor her family, expect retribution with interest. Now, you could say, the leeches allowed criminals to reign in major cities in Tigray and do what ever they like but to claim that rape is a culture in Tigray is preposterous claim invented by Fiyameta with her dozens alias.

Having said that, during their 27 years in the helmet of power, the leeches have introduced customs which were alien to the society. robbery (a profession admired by the late midget meles zenawi) chewing khat and been inauthentic aka fake.

In regard to Hermela and her mother. They are stigmatized and character assassinated not because they are women but because they have abandoned the herd mentality of the leeches.

In regard to who I am? and if am a Tigrian.

I am a honorary Agame

[Temt]

We can be confident that both Yemane Negus and you got your seven eleltas[for baby boys versus three for baby girls] when you were born, were not raped or beaten by women, were not considered unclean for being male when approaching a church..etc. Don't try to defend the indefensible.

Question for our Ethiopian brothers and sisters.
The 7/3 eletas are common in Eritrea as well (at least, in the highland area, as far as I understand). My question is:
Is it the same or different culture in Ethiopia regarding this specific practice, considering that the country is endowed with more than 80 tribal groups?

[Abere]

Deq-Arawit,
Why are so obsessed with the superlative and comparative degrees in the explanation of the mistreatment of women in Tigray? The crucial point should be: Are women in Tigray experience rape, beating, coercion, dehumanization, genital mutilation's, have low self esteem (under priced - paying dowry to a man or bred for dowry collection), have equal access to food as their husbands or eat later after everyone else, etc.? If you answer <Yes> anyone, more or all of them then you should share her harrowing experience which she undergone in that society. And should advance her cause. Do not kill the messenger. You just can't say I will have to wait for the rest of the world that have worst cultural mistreatment of women to change. Look, this woman is a role model heroine. She changed her life and the lives of her children, to be free from the shackles of cultural suppression and gender based exploitation. We know that TPLF used many female Tegedaly's as their slave but when they reached Addis Ababa the deposed them marrying urbanized miniskirt dressing girls. You teach a woman, you teach a nation. That is what this heroic woman achieved. Her daughter, Hermella Aregawi, is now a global voice. Had Hermela grew and lived in Ethiopia, she would have had the fate of those thousands of Tigre girls perished in war. You see the difference of being an egalitarian society and a repressive society? I guess so.

[quindibu]

By the way, are you Tigrayan? or hybrid? or somesort?
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He told us, in his own words, he trusts a Tigrean than he does to an Eritrean who happens to be a muslim......That is self-explanatory for who this retard is, for Nationality is more than religion and DNA ......Our revered father Aboy Woldeab Woldemariam wasn't Eritrean by blood, and Simon Bereket is.........

[Misraq]

What you said makes sense. Can you enlighten me about the difference between an agame and an honorary bagame?

[Hawdian]

This is music to the ears of Amhara FANO fanatic like Ato Misraq but we need to bring him back to earth.

We all clash over views and it's common thing for individuals to label whole community when those individuals feel shunned away, alone and they have to say most hurtful things. It's natural defense mechanism.

For that reason, I know mother and daughter don't mean those things.

Anyone trying to use that for their own insecurities is rather cheap.

One love.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Deq-Arawit,
Why are so obsessed with the superlative and comparative degrees in the explanation of the mistreatment of women in Tigray? The crucial point should be: Are women in Tigray experience rape, beating, coercion, dehumanization, genital mutilation's, have low self esteem (under priced - paying dowry to a man or bred for dowry collection), have equal access to food as their husbands or eat later after everyone else, etc.? If you answer <Yes> anyone, more or all of them then you should share her harrowing experience which she undergone in that society. And should advance her cause. Do not kill the messenger. You just can't say I will have to wait for the rest of the world that have worst cultural mistreatment of women to change. Look, this woman is a role model heroine. She changed her life and the lives of her children, to be free from the shackles of cultural suppression and gender based exploitation. We know that TPLF used many female Tegedaly's as their slave but when they reached Addis Ababa the deposed them marrying urbanized miniskirt dressing girls. You teach a woman, you teach a nation. That is what this heroic woman achieved. Her daughter, Hermella Aregawi, is now a global voice. Had Hermela grew and lived in Ethiopia, she would have had the fate of those thousands of Tigre girls perished in war. You see the difference of being an egalitarian society and a repressive society? I guess so.

Are non Tigrian Ethiopians any different than Tigrian Ethiopians when it comes to their role in the household? Forgive me, but When you wrote your piece, you sounds like you are a European or an American who is alien and totally lack knowledge about the Horn of Africa. Let's talk about rape in Tigray since it is eyebrow raising topic . In the BBC Tigrigna program, there was a topic about the subject and many women were holding demonstration against the leniency of the leeches toward the culprits who committed the crime. If it was a common practice or culture as some people assume, there would have never been a demonstration or opposing view against this practice. In regard to the other issues which is closer to the heart of Oprah and other feminist fighters, I am not even going to comment it since it is practiced in the entire Horn of Africa.

[Deqi-Arawit]

By the way, are you Tigrayan? or hybrid? or somesort?
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He told us, in his own words, he trusts a Tigrean than he does to an Eritrean who happens to be a muslim......That is self-explanatory for who this retard is, for Nationality is more than religion and DNA ......Our revered father Aboy Woldeab Woldemariam wasn't Eritrean by blood, and Simon Bereket is.........

Here is Quindibu trying to be a smart arse. Just because you quote old French philosophers and writers, it doesn't mean you are smart but a parrot.

ኣክሱም እታ ናይ ንግስነት ኣግኣዝያን መናገሻ ዘልኣለማዊት ከተማ እያ፡፡
ናይ ቋንቋ ትግርኛ ዝዛረብ ህዝቢ መንፈሳዊት መደበር ወይ ብልጽቲ መዝገብ እያ፡፡
ናይ ብዙሕ ህዝቢ ትግርኛ ሃይማኖታውን ፖለቲካውን ሃረርታ ክኣ ኣብኣ እዩ ተዓቊቡ፡፡
ህዝቢ እስራኤል ትንሳኤ ጽዮን ከም ዝኣምንን ዝጽበን ህዝቢ ትግርኛ ድማ ትንሳኤ ኣክሱም ይኣምን ይጽበን።
ወልደኣብ ወልደማርያም ... ሰሙናዊት ጋዜጣ ቁጽሪ 101፣ 8መጋቢት 1944
ኣክሱም ተወሊዓ።



ኣቦና ወልደኣብ ወልደማርያም ብዛዕባ ኣክሱም ጽዮን ካብ ዝበልዎ ...

Now, was Aboy WeldeEab Weldemariam an agame or an Eritrean?

[Abe Abraham]

Deq-Arawit,
Why are so obsessed with the superlative and comparative degrees in the explanation of the mistreatment of women in Tigray? The crucial point should be: Are women in Tigray experience rape, beating, coercion, dehumanization, genital mutilation's, have low self esteem (under priced - paying dowry to a man or bred for dowry collection), have equal access to food as their husbands or eat later after everyone else, etc.? If you answer <Yes> anyone, more or all of them then you should share her harrowing experience which she undergone in that society. And should advance her cause. Do not kill the messenger. You just can't say I will have to wait for the rest of the world that have worst cultural mistreatment of women to change. Look, this woman is a role model heroine. She changed her life and the lives of her children, to be free from the shackles of cultural suppression and gender based exploitation. We know that TPLF used many female Tegedaly's as their slave but when they reached Addis Ababa the deposed them marrying urbanized miniskirt dressing girls. You teach a woman, you teach a nation. That is what this heroic woman achieved. Her daughter, Hermella Aregawi, is now a global voice. Had Hermela grew and lived in Ethiopia, she would have had the fate of those thousands of Tigre girls perished in war. You see the difference of being an egalitarian society and a repressive society? I guess so.

Are non Tigrian Ethiopians any different than Tigrian Ethiopians when it comes to their role in the household? Forgive me, but When you wrote your piece, you sounds like you are a European or an American who is alien and totally lack knowledge about the Horn of Africa. Let's talk about rape in Tigray since it is eyebrow raising topic . In the BBC Tigrigna program, there was a topic about the subject and many women were holding demonstration against the leniency of the leeches toward the culprits who committed the crime. If it was a common practice or culture as some people assume, there would have never been a demonstration or opposing view against this practice. In regard to the other issues which is closer to the heart of Oprah and other feminist fighters, I am not even going to comment it since it is practiced in the entire Horn of Africa.

The situation in Tigray is compounded by poverty, ignorance and God-less Malelit otherwise in general women are not treated very well all over the world.In the Arab world it is horror. In the West domestic violence and seksual harassment are rife.

[Abere]

Deqi-Arawit,

Like what Abe Abraham pointed out gender based exploitation is a common place phenomenon. Among all the over 85 and plus ethnics groups in Ethiopia there are bunch of derogatory cultural practices that affect women social, economic, health, psychological , etc. well beings. However, the extent , prevalence and types of such practices vary from one tribe to another even within the same tribe from one place to another. As I said the most important thing is to acknowledge the presence of any of the harmful cultural elements that obstruct women realizing their full potential. And you don't have expect Professor Haregewoine to subject to all of the worlds harmful practices she had enough of it from her own childhood village. I think the Tigre women are probably the most suppressed. There is even a common saying: If you want to get wealthy, marry a Gurgahe woman; if you want have a docile or submissive wife, marry a Tigre woman; if you love beauty and a vibe(ለዐደባባይ), marry to an Amhara wife, etc.

Are non Tigrian Ethiopians any different than Tigrian Ethiopians when it comes to their role in the household? Forgive me, but When you wrote your piece, you sounds like you are a European or an American who is alien and totally lack knowledge about the Horn of Africa. Let's talk about rape in Tigray since it is eyebrow raising topic . In the BBC Tigrigna program, there was a topic about the subject and many women were holding demonstration against the leniency of the leeches toward the culprits who committed the crime. If it was a common practice or culture as some people assume, there would have never been a demonstration or opposing view against this practice. In regard to the other issues which is closer to the heart of Oprah and other feminist fighters, I am not even going to comment it since it is practiced in the entire Horn of Africa.

[Temt]

I am reposting this because I am hoping to get some answer(s) from people who may know, not assumptions.

We can be confident that both Yemane Negus and you got your seven eleltas[for baby boys versus three for baby girls] when you were born, were not raped or beaten by women, were not considered unclean for being male when approaching a church..etc. Don't try to defend the indefensible.

Question for our Ethiopian brothers and sisters.
The 7/3 eletas are common in Eritrea as well (at least, in the highland area, as far as I understand). My question is:
Is it the same or different culture in Ethiopia regarding this specific practice, considering that the country is endowed with more than 80 tribal groups?

[eritrea]

It should be well understood that the amount of how many times Elelta (እልልታ) is performed is not of significance in our culture. On the other hand, its biblical context matters a lot.

Number 3 is a symbol of divinity or trinity while Number 7 is a symbol of completion or perfection.