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Abere
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ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Abere » 22 Nov 2021, 12:36

ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው። This tells me how much people are weak to tuning to sensational YouTube sources while the grim reality could be different. To arrive at any inference, there has to be at least 3 reliable sources validating the event. Don't take things at their face value, question it, find more confirmatory evidences.

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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by eden » 22 Nov 2021, 12:45

He's not the only one. There are 100s of YouTube streams. That's why nobody believes ESAT or CNN anymore

Just search by town or village and you find lots of them

It can't be hidden anymore

This is social media exposing main stream and state owned media

Examples if you looking for Wollo and Shoa related news:

Wollo

Fafi Kiya

Dawud

Kewser

Abere
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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Abere » 22 Nov 2021, 12:53

To be honest, the only thing I am smelling in the air is the country is going into another new chapter of fighting. And also the awakening of Ethiopians about the deeper interest of foreign powers - that makes this fight really pernicious and protracted not see an end anytime soon. Too bad, the farmers all the way are locked into this conflict. The only window of hope to reduce the damage would be if the government frees those areas where TPLF is now aimlessly wandering.

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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Abere » 22 Nov 2021, 13:03

eden,
አገር በአንድ ወይም በሁለት YouTuber ወሬዎች እንድህ በቀላሉ አይፈታም :: Certified ስርቲፋይድ የሆኑ ተቋማዊ የዜና ምንጮች እንጅ ዛሬ ዩቲዩብ የምንላቸው ወሬዎች እኮ የዱሮው የጠጅ ቤት ስማ በለው ወሬ ማለት ነው። News becomes news worthy if its producer could be hold accountable and is certified news agency.

eden wrote:
22 Nov 2021, 12:45
He's not the only one. There are 100s of YouTube streams. That's why nobody believes ESAT or CNN anymore

Just search by town or village and you find lots of them

It can't be hidden anymore

This is social media exposing main stream and state owned media

Examples if you looking for Wollo and Shoa related news:

Wollo

Fafi Kiya

Dawud

Kewser

eden
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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by eden » 22 Nov 2021, 17:45

Abere,

Yes, there's misinformation but if you spend enough time you find good ones. If you follow for sometime, you can tell if they lied to you because the truth comes out eventually

To be honest, regimes that rely on hiding truth from the public can no longer continue. People will find a way to find channels that give them information.

It's for this reason PP is not arresting Gobeze. It's pointless. HGDEF arrested 20 Journalists for 20 years to hide information. It worked for many years but not anymore because 100s of Eritrean channels operate from outside HGDEF reach.

Our region is changing. Information is power

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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Misraq » 22 Nov 2021, 18:07

If you see Gobeze Sisay, he was accurate and persistent from Kobo, then Woldia....all the way to Debre-Sina. He got this audience by pure coincidence that he was working for ESAT and noticed ESAT was bending the hard reality. The minute Gobeze is fired from ESAT, he had massive followers.

Remember ESAT is leba news outlet. They were denying the capture of Alamata, Woldia...all the way to Dessie. Finally they said Wollo is not strategically important. These shameful idiots are pure cadres with zero journalistic experience or credits. They are simply propogandista disguised as journalists.

The worst in ESAT are message Mekonnen and Dereje Habtewold. They were against Amhara from the get go. They were fiercely opposing the establishment of hizbawi force by Zemene kassie in Gojjam. They accused him saying ENDF is enough. Zena tube and ESAT went to length to twart the movement in Gojjam to arm the public under Amhara cause saying Zemene is creating warlord styled gang. When the PM went to Bahirdar 2 weeks ago confessing that the ENDF alone can't do anything, this fat ppigggs we're nowhere to be seen. Instead they continued their useless "Breaking victory news....."

So Gobeze is a true journalist who is siding with the people. He feels the pain of the people hence voiced his concern on the witnessed shaefull retreat of the ENDF.

The new slogan of these pigggs says....how was 2 million afar stopped tplf when 40 million Amharas not. While knowing fully fano and militia are deliberately kept away from the weapons they needed to defend

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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Wedi » 22 Nov 2021, 18:22

Misraq wrote:
22 Nov 2021, 18:07
Remember ESAT is leba news outlet. They were denying the capture of Alamata, Woldia...all the way to Dessie. Finally Wollo is not strategically important. These shameful idiots are pure cadres with zero journalistic experience or credits. They are simply propogandista disguised as journalists.


Gobezie Sisay is an outstanding and stand out honest journalist that we have right now in Ethiopia. He earned it.

Misraq ESAT said not only Wollo but the capture of Shewa by TPLF has not strategic importance.Mind you, for ESAT not only the suffering of people of Wollo and Shewa but also the looting and destruction of the resources of Wollo and Shewa has no strategic important. Is their any embarrassing and sellout Media than ESAT in Ethiopia.

ESAT is totally shameful media

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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Hawzen » 22 Nov 2021, 19:57

Abere wrote:
22 Nov 2021, 12:36
ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው። This tells me how much people are weak to tuning to sensational YouTube sources while the grim reality could be different. To arrive at any inference, there has to be at least 3 reliable sources validating the event. Don't take things at their face value, question it, find more confirmatory evidences.
Hands down, brother Abere. Not only the Ethiopian brother ጎበዜ ሲሳይ has been reporting the hard truth, but also he has been very frustrated as well as hurting for his people if you see his body language. Everything he stated has been right on spot. I know you don't like the news he has been reporting..Don't get me wrong...I don't like them either because I hate agames so much... but this is bitter reality you need to swallow. It might have been strategical retreat by the Federal Government, but the selfie obsessed TPLF rag tag militias have been advancing towards wollo-shewa direction and making noise on the social medias while hurting from West and East fronts :oops: :mrgreen: :lol: .

However, everything might change anytime soon. Because the selfie loving agames rag tag militias are very weak....The reason I am saying this is that:

1. Agames have already lost so many of their rag tag militias and that they don't even have enough militias all other fronts...

2. If the Afar warriors could deflo*wer agames in every front, I am sure the rest of Ethiopians will ra*pe agames rag tag militias really bad assuming that Amara people are warriors...

3. Last but not least, Eritrea will welcome any Ethiopian forces to bi@tch slap agames from behind from our border side... We might offer help from our Mechanized as well :lol: :lol:

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Abere
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Re: ጎበዜ ሲሳይ ብቻ ለምን ብቸኛ የዜና ምንጭ ተደርጎ ይወሰዳል? ምንም እኮ ተጨማሪ የማጣርያ ምንጭ የለም። ወያኔዎች የእሱን የግለሰቦች ስልክ ውይይት ለፕሮፓጋንዳ እየተጠቀሙበት ነው።

Post by Abere » 23 Nov 2021, 09:14

Dear Misraq, Wedi , Hawzen,

I just asked this question wondering in a country of 110 million why the country could not have a couple of trusted news sources. I don't have any malicious intent to discredit ጎበዜ ሲሳይ effort. I don't want to shoot the messenger. He is doing fine work on his own. But the ratio of ethical journalists to the population really is way less than the number of physicians/doctors per population. This is worrisome moving forward. Is it because wartime journalism requires a different standard than the regular normal time, perhaps bias creeps in due to illusive impact of citizenry moral duty?

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