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Dumbest post you've ever wrote. Their defence forces were maimed and scattered by tplf. It takes time to formulate a formidable cohesive army. Still they humiliated tplf within 17days.

How is it gura when the federal army was in mekele and hunting junta from the caves of abi adi how can you describe an army of 250k and god knows how many militias armed to the teeth as a rag tag army?

Sabur wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 08:59

This 17 days humiliation was nothing but "gura".

If that was true, then why the Weakest Rag-Tag Junta army is in Wollo, and Northern Shewa in Ataye not far from Debre Berhan without any resistance from the Ethiopian Forces..

Not a single footage shows by the youtubers that the Ethiopian Forces dislodging Junta's Army from areas it recently controlled by force.

The youtubers are feeding the public with untrue and unrealistic of Feel Good narrative about the facts on the Ground.

This is dangerous. Before you know it this rag-tag weak Junta's Army and Oromo Shene could be in the outskirts of Addis

High time to Tighten Belts to fight back, die, and secure victory quickly.

The longer it takes to destroy Junta, the more life lines Junta gets in the Negotiation Demands.

One Must be Very Decisive when Dealing with an enemy like the Terrorist TPLF-TDF.

Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 08:26

Dumbest post you've ever wrote. Their defence forces were maimed and scattered by tplf. It takes time to formulate a formidable cohesive army. Still they humiliated tplf within 17days.

Brother Weyane.is.dead,

Thank you for responding, brother... I have a question though:

Did you really say "Their defense forces were maimed and scattered by tplf" ? I think you have forgot to realize the fact that agames are only 5-6 %. The minority scattering the majority is bad excuse specially after 6 months. What the selfie obsessed agame rag tag militia have been doing should have been done by the Ethiopian forces. The reason this has not happened is simple: Ethiopian forces have been either just defending or retreating...For example, when agames move the majority of their militias from one front leaving few behind, the Ethiopian forces don't attack from that front at all. They are just stationary. In addition to that I personally believe that agames have felt cornered and that they are ready to die. Whereas the Ethiopians forces ( of course except the Afar warriors) are not ready to die for their people and country. Obviosuly, the military tactic the Ethiopian forces have been implementing is not only predictable but also cowardice.

If the Ethiopian forces want to annihilate the selfie obsessed agames rag tag militias, they have to mix it up: Defending on the fronts where agames have significant army and attacking on the fronts where agame army are weak. I am sure agames don't have enough personal to cover all the areas they have left behind as well as on both sides of the U/V-shape. The main reason agames are marching forward is because they know that there will not be any attack from Ethiopian forces. It means, they are not afraid of the Ethiopian forces at all. By the way, have you heard any city or town freed from the agame rag tag militias by Ethiopians forces ? I am waiting, bother Weyane.is.dead.

Honestly, I am tired off the click-bait Ethiopian Youtubers, bloggers and activists... Almost all of them are fake like CNN.. They tell you Ethiopia forces are winning when in fact the selfie obsessed agame rag tag militias are marching forward.

The way I have noticed so far.... If Ethiopia is going to win this against the least important killil Tigray, it is not because of the bravery of the Ethiopian forces. It is because of the the two major odds against agames. Agames are minority and their killil is located over 500 kms away from the capital city. That is all!!!

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

የጦቢያ ሃገራዊ ሰራዊት ዓቅም ውሱንና ደካማ ሆኖ በመገኘቱ ‘የትግራይ ክልል አማጽያን’ ከተንቤን ዋሻዎች ተነስተው ወሎን አተራምሰው፣ ጎንደርን ጎሽመው፣ ዓፋርን ኮርኩመው፣ ሰሜን ሸዋን እያንኳኩ ነው። “ሃገሪቱንም” ቀጭን ቁንዳላ ሽሩባና ጋሜ እየሰሯት ይገኛሉ። ወጣቱ ጠቅላይ ባንድ ወቅት “ለነሱ 17 ዓመታት የወሰደባቸውን ጉዞ እኛ ግን በ17 ቀን አገባደድነው፡ እነሱም በእግር እኛም በእግር፤ በኛ ኦፕሬሽን አንድ ሰው እንኳ ሳይሞት” ምናምን እያለ ቦለቲካዊ ቧልት ቦልቶ ነበር። ሌላ ሴራ ከሌለ በቃሉ ጸንቶ እስቲ ኣሁን ደግሞ ወንድነቱን ያሳየን በ17 ቀን ወይም በ17 ወራት ወደመጡበት መልሶ ጄግንነቱንና በሳል አመራሩን ያስመስክር።

ጎበዝ ዶማ ዶማ መባል ኣለበት፡ አካፋም አካፋ። ባንድ ወቅት ያገሬ ብረዚደንት ሞራል ቢሆነው ብለው “አንተው ምራን” ያሉት ይህ ወጣት ጠቅላዪ እንኳን ኤርትራን ያክል ትልቅ አገር ቀርቶ ኢትዮጵያን ያክል ትንሽ አገር እንኳ መምራት ተስኖት እየተንገዳገደና በሚሊየን የሚቆጠሩ ሰላማዊያን ዜጎችን አላስፈላጊ ወታደራዊ ሁኔታ ውስጥ ከቶ ይገኛል። [የአንድ ሃገር ትልቅነትና ትንሽነት ሚዛኑ፡ ምን ያህል ዜጎች ለአንድ አላማ ተሰልፈው ለመስዋእትነት ቁርጠኝነት ያሳያሉ የሚለው ሚዛን እንጂ ምን ያህል የህዝብ ብዛት አለ የሚለው ገንዳዳ ሚዛን ኣይደለም።]

ሃገርን በወሬና በአፍ ብቻ መጠበቅ አይቻልም። ንፍጣቸውና ልጋጋቸውን መጥረግ ያልቻሉ ህጻናትን ለጦርነት ማሰለፍ፡ ኣፋቸውን በየሚድያው ለሚከፍቱ ወመኔዎችና ጠብደሎች ደግሞ ብዙ ገንዘብ ተከፋይ በማድረግ ኣገር ለመምራት መሞከሩ በርግጥ የጠቅላዩ አንዱ ትልቅ ድክመት ነው።

ምን ይሄ ብቻ፡ ለጉራ’ዉም ለኸት ኣልነበረውም፤ ግስላው፡ ትንታጉ፡ ነበልባሉ፡ ሳተናው፡ ግሪሳው ወዘተ እያለ ሲያቆላምጣቸው የነበሩ “ጄነራሎቹ” ምነውሳ ወሎና ሸዋን ማዳን ጐንደርንና አፋርንም መታደግ ኣቃታቸው? ግስላዉም ትንታጉም ሳተናዉም ግሪሳዉም ወዘተዉም ተደምረው አንድ ኮሎኔል ደመቀ ዘውዱ ኣይወጣቸውም። በኤርትራዉያን ስሌት ደግሞ አንድ መራሕ መስርዕ የሚወጣቸው አይመስለንም።

Any sane Eritrea should stop believing all this cadre non-sense. The truth of the matter is Abiy's supporters have shown ZERO resolve to fight back. The only force fighting back is the militia in Gonder and Afar warriors.

All the YouTubers should ashamed of themselves. A few months back, they were 100% sure ENDF is about to control Meqelle. Then the Federal Army lost Dessie and Kombolcha and we are told the rebels are fighting in North Shewa.

Really embarassing chain of events if you ask me!

What the fk? Who is Hawzen? real agame? I haven't seen such kind of bold post ever in his stay in ER. All agames are making noise in the name of Eritrea. Don't worry we will crush them. can't you see how agames are run out of fighters. we decimated them for good.

Sabur wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 08:59

This 17 days humiliation was nothing but "gura".

If that was true, then why the Weakest Rag-Tag Junta army is in Wollo, and Northern Shewa in Ataye not far from Debre Berhan without any resistance from the Ethiopian Forces..

Not a single footage shows by the youtubers that the Ethiopian Forces dislodging Junta's Army from areas it recently controlled by force.

The youtubers are feeding the public with untrue and unrealistic of Feel Good narrative about the facts on the Ground.

This is dangerous. Before you know it this rag-tag weak Junta's Army and Oromo Shene could be in the outskirts of Addis

High time to Tighten Belts to fight back, die, and secure victory quickly.

The longer it takes to destroy Junta, the more life lines Junta gets in the Negotiation Demands.

One Must be Very Decisive when Dealing with an enemy like the Terrorist TPLF-TDF.

Brother Sabur,

The historical 17 days humiliation of agames was NOT "gura". It was definitely real and that one I can tell you. But the difference is that the war at that time was not only between Ethiopian forces and agame rag tag militias. The Eritrean Defense Forces were not only involved but our forces also played the major role starting from our border all the way to Mekelle. In fact our mechanized was the decisive factor. Even today there is no question that the Eritrean Defense Force can change everything upside down right away if the Eritrean government decides to rescue the Ethiopian forces. When I went back home this summer, I met friends and family memebrs who participated in the almost all the wars such as in Shire, Adwa and all the way to Mekelle. Almost all of them told me that Ethiopian forces were demoralized and that they were not ready to die. On the other hand, most of them admitted that agame rag tag militias had shown their courage and readiness to die. Today, that is exactly what we are witnessing!!!

I know it might sound a little bit bravado. But I have started to believe that if it was not for the Eritrean Defense Force, Agames would have been dancing in Arat killo months ago. Because the Ethiopian North Command soldiers were ambushed while sleeping and almost all the weapons were under control of agames. The Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Dr. Abby and many other Ethiopian military leaders have admitted this fact multiple times.

Today I don't blame if I see any Ethiopian starting to lose their confidence on Ethiopia forces (of course except Gondar Fano and Afar warriors.)

Having said this I still believe that the agame rag tag militias will lose the war simply because the two major odds are against agames: The distance from the least important killil Tigray to the capital city Addis as well the population size (5-6%).

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

Hawzen wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 19:24

Brother Sabur,

The historical 17 days humiliation of agames was NOT "gura". It was definitely real and that one I can tell you. But the difference is that the war at that time was not only between Ethiopian forces and agame rag tag militias. The Eritrean Defense Forces were not only involved but our forces also played the major role starting from our border all the way to Mekelle. In fact our mechanized was the decisive factor. Even today there is no question that the Eritrean Defense Force can change everything upside down right away if the Eritrean government decides to rescue the Ethiopian forces. When I went back home this summer, I met friends and family memebrs who participated in the almost all the wars such as in Shire, Adwa and all the way to Mekelle. Almost all of them told me that Ethiopian forces were demoralized and that they were not ready to die. On the other hand, most of them admitted that agame rag tag militias had shown their courage and readiness to die. Today, that is exactly what we are witnessing!!!

I know it might sound a little bit bravado. But I have started to believe that if it was not for the Eritrean Defense Force, Agames would have been dancing in Arat killo months ago. Because the Ethiopian North Command soldiers were ambushed while sleeping and almost all the weapons were under control of agames. The Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Dr. Abby and many other Ethiopian military leaders have admitted this fact multiple times.

Today I don't blame if I see any Ethiopian starting to lose their confidence on Ethiopia forces (of course except Gondar Fano and Afar warriors.)

Having said this I still believe that the agame rag tag militias will lose the war simply because the two major odds are against agames: The distance from the least important killil Tigray to the capital city Addis as well the population size (5-6%).

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

I believe, it is naive to draw conclusions while war and psychological warfare are still going on. one must have patience. There are many parameters that one must take into account to get a proper understanding of the whole situation.

But one fact still remains. The TPLF still has a full grasp of some important institutions in the Ethiopian government. Whether directly or through various NGOs or ambassadors, it should be a task for the Ethiopian security police to find out but so far, that mission has been extremely poorly managed. As we all know, A single individual is enough to jeopardize the entire security of any city or frontlines.

At the moment, the Americans are pressuring the Prime Minister by what ever they can, to force him to enter into a ceasefire agreement, and accept free access to eveything else.

Here it is important to be wise, first of all, there is nothing that can change the position of Americans. If the prime Minister do not voluntarily die, or hand over power, of course. Therefore, it is important to forcefully say disappear from my face if you don't classify TPLF as a terrorist group.

ትልቅ ሀገራዊ ክብረ በዓል ላይ፥ እንደ ኣሥራ ሦስት ዓመት ጐረምሳ ኣፉን ከፍቶ ማስቲካ እያኘከ ቴሌቪዠን ካሜራ ላይ ሲገለፍጥ የሚታይ የጦር አዛዠ (ጄነራል) የሚመራው ወታደር መሸሽ ይነሰው? የወታደር አዛዥ፦ ሀገራዊ ክብረ በዓል ላይ ቀርቶ የመንደር ሰርግ ላይ እንኳ ቢሆን ቆፍጠን ብሎ ሲቆም ነው ሞገስ የሚኖረው፣ ኮስተር ብሎ ሲታይ ነው ለሌላው ወኔና inspiration የሚሆነው። ዛሬ ላይ የምናየው ግን ፍፁም የተለየ ነው። የ youtube ቤት-በቀል ጋዜጠኛ ሳይቀር፦ የመከላከያውን ዩኒፎርም ... ከኮፍያ እስከ ጫማው አጥልቆ፣ አፋቸውን እስከ ጆሮ ግንዳቸው ከፍተው በሳቁ ወታደራዊ መኮንኖች ተከቦ የተነሳውን ፎቶ መመለከት ልማድ ሆኗል። ይህን በተመለከተ ከኣንድ ግለሰብ ጋር ስናወራ፥ " ድሮ" አለኝ "ድሮ አንድ የልጅነት ጓደኛዬ ወታደሮች በሰፈራችን ሲያፉ ተመልክቶ፥ 'ምነው ይህንን ካኪ ኣንድ ቀን እንኳ ለብሼው በንጋታው በሞትኩ' አለኝ" ብሎ አጫውቶኛል። ያ! ያንን ያህል ክብር የነበረው ዩኒፎርም ዛሬ ተዋርዶ ለመከላከያው ኣንድ መቶ ዶላር የረዳ ሁሉ እንደ ተራ ሰልባጅ ያጠልቀዋል። እና ታዲያ ውጊያው ሜዳ ላይ ወታደሩ በሬ እየበላ እንደ cheetah ቢሮጥ ይወቀሳል?

When I referred "This 17 days humiliation was nothing but "gura" ", I meant to the bogus claim by some youtubers that the Ethiopian Forces Destroyed the TPLF Army in 17 days.

Yes, I agree and I know for a fact (I also mentioned before in Nov. 2020) how the Eritrean Defense Forces played a very major role in changing the tide of the war by penetrating deep into tigray through Shire, Humera, Zalambesa and Tserona fronts outflanking and destroying the useless rag-tag army and headed straight to Mekele in 10 days. The Eritrean Defense Forces destroyed the missiles that TPLF used to bomb Asmara and Bahir Dar and other heavy Military Equipments that could be used to destroy Areas in Amhara, Afar and Wollo.

In fact there were many incidents that TPLF remnants easily took control of places after the Eritrean Defenses Forces handed over to Ethiopian Forces. Many sell out Ethiopian soldiers (military leadership) were sabotaging the progress of the war until the frustrated Eritrean Defense Forces got green light from Aby to finish the saboteurs on the spot.

When the dust settles, we hope to learn (or hear) a lot about this war from Eritreans although Eritreans are known for Not Talking too much about Achievements.

Hawzen wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 19:24

Sabur wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 08:59

This 17 days humiliation was nothing but "gura".

If that was true, then why the Weakest Rag-Tag Junta army is in Wollo, and Northern Shewa in Ataye not far from Debre Berhan without any resistance from the Ethiopian Forces..

Not a single footage shows by the youtubers that the Ethiopian Forces dislodging Junta's Army from areas it recently controlled by force.

The youtubers are feeding the public with untrue and unrealistic of Feel Good narrative about the facts on the Ground.

This is dangerous. Before you know it this rag-tag weak Junta's Army and Oromo Shene could be in the outskirts of Addis

High time to Tighten Belts to fight back, die, and secure victory quickly.

The longer it takes to destroy Junta, the more life lines Junta gets in the Negotiation Demands.

One Must be Very Decisive when Dealing with an enemy like the Terrorist TPLF-TDF.

Brother Sabur,

The historical 17 days humiliation of agames was NOT "gura". It was definitely real and that one I can tell you. But the difference is that the war at that time was not only between Ethiopian forces and agame rag tag militias. The Eritrean Defense Forces were not only involved but our forces also played the major role starting from our border all the way to Mekelle. In fact our mechanized was the decisive factor. Even today there is no question that the Eritrean Defense Force can change everything upside down right away if the Eritrean government decides to rescue the Ethiopian forces. When I went back home this summer, I met friends and family memebrs who participated in the almost all the wars such as in Shire, Adwa and all the way to Mekelle. Almost all of them told me that Ethiopian forces were demoralized and that they were not ready to die. On the other hand, most of them admitted that agame rag tag militias had shown their courage and readiness to die. Today, that is exactly what we are witnessing!!!

I know it might sound a little bit bravado. But I have started to believe that if it was not for the Eritrean Defense Force, Agames would have been dancing in Arat killo months ago. Because the Ethiopian North Command soldiers were ambushed while sleeping and almost all the weapons were under control of agames. The Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Dr. Abby and many other Ethiopian military leaders have admitted this fact multiple times.

Today I don't blame if I see any Ethiopian starting to lose their confidence on Ethiopia forces (of course except Gondar Fano and Afar warriors.)

Having said this I still believe that the agame rag tag militias will lose the war simply because the two major odds are against agames: The distance from the least important killil Tigray to the capital city Addis as well the population size (5-6%).

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

Forget this Chinese Military Science bla bla.

The Basics of Military Achievement is to Suffocate and KILL the enemy when it is at its weakest phase. You do not give an enemy a second chance to breath.

And what better chance did the Ethiopian Army have to finish Junta completely than the months of Dec, Jan, Feb, March,... when Junta's Army was in its last Breath.

This facade "The Ethiopian Army declared Unilateral Withdrawal from Tigray, bla bla" leaving the Amhara and Afar towns and villages naked without protection for the ravages of the Mortal Enemy Junta. If you go to war, your job is to finish off the Enemy. No Luke Warm approach. It is a WAR. In a War Winner takes all.

We now are living witnesses of the consequences. All the destructions, lost of lives, displacements would have not happened.

And what was the reason to capture and carry Aboy Sibhat and Company out of the cave when you could finish them right on the spot. They would have been forgotten by now like Siyoum Mesfin and Co. Now they could be a liability for the Ethiopian Government and would probably be a bargaining for the TPLF Junta if they get upper hand, though very unlikely.

What is the motive behind all these,... to look advanced or civilized in the eyes of the Western Media and the Western Gov't.

Misraq wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 20:56

Honourable Hawzein,

Half of what you said is true. But you missed 4 important factors.

1) military is science. Modern warfare is all about tactics in which agames have the edge since for 27 years, they made sure no one acquired experience at the General/Colonel level. We have General Bacha who was a dancer and General Jula worked only on logistics. The rest of generals have similar administrative type experience than wars

2) Current Biltsigina government is very weak on intelligence which is crucial for wars. For instance, Abiy and Jula had no clue on the agame preparations and recruitment in the months between January - June, full 6 months this year. The Biltsigina Oromo leaders simply trusted the tigray Biltsigina + tigray temporary administration that was working with tplf. Very infantile and inexperienced leadership in Addis

3) Oromo Biltsigina deliberately chose not to arm the Amhara Fanos who they see as opponents or threat to their power and Ajenda. Such as finfine and Oromo dominated politics in Ethiopia.

The Chinese say when you go to war, a sheep led by a lion will win on a lion lead by a ship. So the weakness and the fault is on Ethiopian government. Mind you when northern command was hit, agames hit and killed prominent Ethiopian officers and again that is a fault from Ethiopian leadership.

4) agames have insider knowledge on the Ethiopian army movements. Most of these insiders are Oromos who incline to OLF ideology and Shene. They were ordering withdrawal from town to town. It was just three week that the government did a crack down and arrested just a few. So your comparison of 5 million vs 100 million is fallacious unless you have some motive there

With that all, we will definitely turn the table around and that is what the sign shows.