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Sadacha Macca
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The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
''EPLF leader Issayas Afeworki visited the Somali state of Ethiopia in 1977 and cautioned against using the (regular) Somali Army in the area. He reasoned that such a top-down militarist approach will undermine the WSLF and herald in massive foreign interventionism. Unfortunately, beginning in May-June 1977, the Somali military regime launched a tremendous offensive intended to regain ''western Somalia'' or the Ogaden region. And, as predicted by the Eritrean leader, foreign involvement in Ethiopia, and consequently Eritrea, underwent a major transformation with the introduction of large scale soviet and Cuban presence in the area.''
[Eritrea and Ethiopia: From Conflict to Cooperation, page 147]
[Eritrea and Ethiopia: From Conflict to Cooperation, page 147]
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
Everone knows the habeshas are not a match for the somalis under a united front . Somalis have proven to be superior to habeshas on the battle field. It took one hawiye subclan to remove a united Ethiopia military intervention in Somalia back in 2007. At the lowest point in somali history. On isias he was right on the money . That it was a miscalculation to let the Somali army conquer the Somali region. Due to international treaties and diplomacy it was better to let the wslf battle it out . The result would have been full independence for the Somali region.
Dr Zackovich
Dr Zackovich
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
Mr.bullhorn
"Everone knows the habeshas are not a match for the somalis under a united front" really??
with your Dr Title one expects from you to do contextual analysis before you come vigorously chest tamping about Habeshas not being a match to somalies. WSLF is not a match for Ethiopian army .The only WSLF sucess had is a terrorist attack on oil mining filed that killed 50 civilians . so much to brag about.
"Everone knows the habeshas are not a match for the somalis under a united front" really??
with your Dr Title one expects from you to do contextual analysis before you come vigorously chest tamping about Habeshas not being a match to somalies. WSLF is not a match for Ethiopian army .The only WSLF sucess had is a terrorist attack on oil mining filed that killed 50 civilians . so much to brag about.
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
First of all your ignorant on the situation wslf ceased to exist in tve 1980s . Onlf was the one that karbaashed meles and the chinese back in 2007. Get your facts straight and yes the shortlegged habeshas are not a match for the tall masculine Somalis. Every one knows this .if it wasnt for the Cuban and Russians you would not have an Ethiopia today.
Dr Zackovich.
Dr Zackovich.
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
Zack wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 21:24First of all your ignorant on the situation wslf ceased to exist in tve 1980s . Onlf was the one that karbaashed meles and the chinese back in 2007. Get your facts straight and yes the shortlegged habeshas are not a match for the tall masculine Somalis. Every one knows this .if it wasnt for the Cuban and Russians you would not have an Ethiopia today.
Dr Zackovich.
if it wasnt for the Cuban and Russians you would not have an Ethiopia today.
"Without the 15000 Cuban troops, Ethiopia could not stand the Somali army, even with our help."
Petr Chaplygin - Head of the Soviet Military Mission in Ethiopia 1977/1978.
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
habeshas are not a match for the tall masculine Somalis. Every one knows this .
Dr.Zak you made my imagination work over time and came back empty-handed. Tall yes but Somali man and muscle is an oxymornic immage to grabble with..The closest I came up with was syadadbary himself. A tall overfed buffoon who died in Saudi. Preserve that immage man that is the rarest thing ever.
Dr.Zak you made my imagination work over time and came back empty-handed. Tall yes but Somali man and muscle is an oxymornic immage to grabble with..The closest I came up with was syadadbary himself. A tall overfed buffoon who died in Saudi. Preserve that immage man that is the rarest thing ever.
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Sholla Addis
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Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
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Afwerki's advice was brilliant; at the very least, it would saved a proper Somali government. I believe that after 1977 war, the country went downhill; imagine where Somalia would be without the Ethiopian war. Many Somali intellectuals have spoken out against the war, advising the Barre regime to reconsider.
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Afwerki's advice was brilliant; at the very least, it would saved a proper Somali government. I believe that after 1977 war, the country went downhill; imagine where Somalia would be without the Ethiopian war. Many Somali intellectuals have spoken out against the war, advising the Barre regime to reconsider.
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
TGAA wrote: ↑30 Sep 2021, 07:30habeshas are not a match for the tall masculine Somalis. Every one knows this .
Dr.Zak you made my imagination work over time and came back empty-handed. Tall yes but Somali man and muscle is an oxymornic immage to grabble with..The closest I came up with was syadadbary himself. A tall overfed buffoon who died in Saudi. Preserve that immage man that is the rarest thing ever.![]()
Without the 15000 Cuban troops, backed by Soviet artillery and air-power, to rescue your arse from Somali boys, you wouldn't be here today farting but herding our camels by now, you frigging little donkey!
In reality, the Somali Army's role in 1977/1978 War was assistance to the WSLF, mainly in logistics. Somalia was never fully involved in this war.
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
There is a brused ego that need to massaged by Cuban troops . Good for you.somali boy but here is the fact that you need to know Ethiopians had to be trained while in the middle of the war with the Russian weapons. That was the reason for Cuban involvement. Within a year and half you were run out of Ethiopia shooting backwards. And then the basket Somali became a failed state.Had you not messed up with Ethiopia you would have not split into two and you wouldn't have 20 clans fighting each other..so don't chew more than you can swallow 
Re: The time Pres. Isayas visited Somali state and advised them on their struggle-and was proven to be right!
There is a bruised ego that needs to be massaged by Cuban troops. Good for you. Somali boy but here is the fact that you need to know Ethiopians had to be trained while in the middle of the war with the Russian weapons. That was the reason for Cuban involvement. Within a year and a half, you were running out of Ethiopia shooting your Kalashnikov backward aiming at nothing. And then followed the basket case Somalia marked as a failed state by UN. Had you not messed up with Ethiopia you wouldn't have split into two and you wouldn't have 20 clans at each other throats ..so the adge don'tchew more than you can swallow applies here. Sadly though it seems that is your modus operandi by default