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The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 12:24
by Horus
This is essentially, the existing Ethiopian process! What is that process?

Following assumption of office by the elected regime, Abiy is going to call for a national dialogue including those election participated parties. The UN and other friends are welcome helping us in the process. In short, Ethiopians are the solution to their problems and are capable of doing so.


Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 12:27
by Revelations

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 12:49
by tolcha
[deleted], He got what he was looking for. Now your Phacking PM will negotiate with terrorist /Juntas or whatever he labeled . Dedeb is always Dedeb!!!

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 12:55
by Horus
Yes, when Mr. Guterres mentioned 'Ethiopia-led', he also added that 'there is a US initiative'. US has no business in shaping our political life. India has clearly told US (even though the two close friends) that Ethiopia is capable of solving its own national problem and there is no need for external intervention. In short, US can only impose its tired economic pressures or physically invade Ethiopia - both of which Ethiopia is capable resisting with others help.

Freedom is not free. For a couple of years, we might face global financing issues but we will come out 10 times more powerful from it. Ethiopia needs to unify and rally a free independent Africa - the only way to beat the west.

As we speak the initiative is falling in the hands of Abiy Ahmed. He should put the Ethiopian agenda on the table and reconcile all of the internal demands and groups around the Ethiopian agenda. Those who refuse to live by the Ethiopian purpose, he should banish and get rid of. He is given the mandate to united and govern a strong Ethiopia!

This also means that Rep. Karen Bass must come to Addis, if she still plans to do so, with a whole different Agenda; that is, to explore how she could help Ethiopia. Short of that she must cancel her trip. The US congress must worry about American problems and the problems of the American homeless. she is not member of the Ethiopian parliament.

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 13:24
by Aba
Mamo qillo: negotiate or be dislodged

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 13:48
by Educator
This beautiful lady danced around the questions rather than telling what she knows truthfully. For that I give her F on her job approval.

Anyways, if there is going to be a peaceful resolution to this civil war, who is going to be part of the negotiation process cause I don't expect Abiy to negotiate with an entity he declared a terrorist. He also had spritual guidance to reject negotiations , supposedly from Jesus delivered through fake prophet Birtukan.
Horus wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 12:24
This is essentially, the existing Ethiopian process! What is that process?

Following assumption of office by the elected regime, Abiy is going to call for a national dialogue including those election participated parties. The UN and other friends are welcome helping us in the process. In short, Ethiopians are the solution to their problems and are capable of doing so.


Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 14:18
by Horus
Negotiation is the pipe dream of the ungrateful Tigray bandas. There is reconciliation, there is a dialogue, there is a process of joining in peace and participating in the Ethiopian Process. Anti-Ethiopian banda has a choice - living under Ethiopian law or get out of Ethiopia. When is Tigray elite going to ever get an ounce of brain? There is an Ethiopian peace, it is called Pax Ethiopiana. I Horus call it THE ETHIOPIAN AGENDA! If you don't like Ethiopia, go to where ever you want! There is an Ethiopian Order! And, we have chosen, we the People of Ethiopia have chosen to build and live under The Ethiopian Order !!! It is Final!

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 15:05
by Aba
The loser has no choice but to negotiate, lest he lose the whole enchilada :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 15:10
by DefendTheTruth
I don't know about the content of what the UN might have said, but one thing must be clear from my point of view.

Two incompatible entities can't exist together for any long. TPLF can't exist with Ethiopia, this ungrateful ragtag should be eliminated, else we should vacate the space for the entity to roll over us one more time. This second scenario is unthinkable, so TPLF should be defeated. Ethiopia can't negotiate anything with a sworn enemy of the state.

It is either we or the TPLF should live, but not both of us at the same time. We have already paid a heavy price to ensure our existence, so no way to renegade any more.

It claimed a fantom reversal of the federal system while the system is in its actuality more federal than the one TPLF itself imposed on the people for almost 3 decades. It incited countless violences in the country and caused too many bloodsheds. It pitted the different sectors of the ethiopian society against each other so that the people should look at each other in enemity permanently, keeping us weak for the perpetuity as a consequence.

In short TPLF is not tolerable, the sooner the Tigraian people realise this fact, the better it will be for their future.

Cancer needs to only get removed!

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 15:21
by Horus
Martin Plaut,
An hopeless drifting white man who is seeking a meaning for his boring life that has made washing the TPLF dirty linen the very purpose of his existence. A failed white colonial mercenary living inside his own head at this late age in life.

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 15:34
by Horus

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 15:48
by Naga Tuma
Educator:

I think you are missing something in your grading.

It is my first time seeing this kind of press briefing in Ethiopia. So, I watched it as a first time delivery.

With that assumption, I give her an A interns of her ability to have a high signal to noise ratio with a lot of potency of growth.

Be reminded that grading of a student is relative, not absolute. So, I had to imagine if there were 100 students to do the same job, could her signal to noise ratio of delivery fall in the top 90 percentile. I think it does but I stand to be corrected. Sure, there were unsatisfactory answers but this is a process for follow up clearings.

If you can prove me wrong about my assumption, I would concede readily. While at it, also be reminded about the local wisdom: ከበሮ ስያዩት ያምር፣ ስይዙት ያደናግር።

Having said that, as I watched it, I couldn’t help asking if this form of public service point is another copying. It looked like it is.

If so, is it necessary to copy? I did not think so. I have long failed to buy the practice even where it is copied from.

The government and the press can reach each other in their own spheres without having a routine theatrical interface between themselves.

As much as some of us disagreed with the signals in the delivery of the late Meles Zenawi, I think that he had some of the highest signal to noise radio and was effective at it. His body language could speak to the pressed before he opened his mouth to answer a question; at least that was what one of my friends in college witnessed one time during his early days. If that style was organic and effective even if it leads to policy differences, should another style be copied? I don’t have a conclusive answer.

In this interface today in Ethiopia, one question I couldn’t help asking is if the presser and pressed, if you will, appeared citizens of the same country. I am no aesthetics expert but can’t help asking about the mix and what it means for such a pressing.
Educator wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 13:48
This beautiful lady danced around the questions rather than telling what she knows truthfully. For that I give her F on her job approval.

Anyways, if there is going to be a peaceful resolution to this civil war, who is going to be part of the negotiation process cause I don't expect Abiy to negotiate with an entity he declared a terrorist. He also had spritual guidance to reject negotiations , supposedly from Jesus delivered through fake prophet Birtukan.
Horus wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 12:24
This is essentially, the existing Ethiopian process! What is that process?

Following assumption of office by the elected regime, Abiy is going to call for a national dialogue including those election participated parties. The UN and other friends are welcome helping us in the process. In short, Ethiopians are the solution to their problems and are capable of doing so.


Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 16:02
by Educator
Naga Tuma

I gave her F for avoiding to answer any of the questions truthfully. For instance, why couldn't she say whether Abiy met Feltman or not. That should not be a secret. Another example, why can't she talk/answer about Abiy's visit to Asmara.

Those kind of lame answers and lack of transparency is what is confusing the people and leading the country into chaos.

Note: had the plan and results of the Trump and Taliban negotiations were transparent, we wouldn't see people creating their own havoc in trying to leave the country by hinging on the plane's landing gear and die.

So intentionally confusing others deserves a grade of F.
Naga Tuma wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 15:48
Educator:

I think you are missing something in your grading.

It is my first time seeing this kind of press briefing in Ethiopia. So, I watched it as a first time delivery.

With that assumption, I give her an A interns of her ability to have a high signal to noise ratio.

Be reminded that grading of a student is relative, not absolute. So, I had to imagine if there were 100 students to do the same job, could her signal to noise ratio of delivery fall in the top 90 percentile. I think it does but I stand to be corrected. Sure, there were unsatisfactory answers but this is a process for follow up clearings.

If you can prove me wrong about my assumption, I would concede readily.

Having said that, as I watched it, I couldn’t help asking if this form of public service point is another copying. It looked like it is.

If so, is it necessary to copy? I did not think so. I have long failed to buy the practice even where it is copied from.

The government and the press can reach each other in their own spheres without having a routine theatrical interface between themselves.

As much as some of us disagreed with the signals in the delivery of the late Meles Zenawi, I think that he had some of the highest signal to noise radio and was effective at it. His body language could speak to the pressed before he opened his mouth to answer a question; at least that was what one of my friends in college witnessed one time during his early days. If that style was organic and effective even if it leads to policy differences, should another style be copied? I don’t have a conclusive answer.

In this interface today in Ethiopia, one question I couldn’t help asking is if the presser and pressed, if you will, appeared citizens of the same country. I am no aesthetics expert but can’t help asking about the mix and what it means for such a pressing.
Educator wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 13:48
This beautiful lady danced around the questions rather than telling what she knows truthfully. For that I give her F on her job approval.

Anyways, if there is going to be a peaceful resolution to this civil war, who is going to be part of the negotiation process cause I don't expect Abiy to negotiate with an entity he declared a terrorist. He also had spritual guidance to reject negotiations , supposedly from Jesus delivered through fake prophet Birtukan.
Horus wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 12:24
This is essentially, the existing Ethiopian process! What is that process?

Following assumption of office by the elected regime, Abiy is going to call for a national dialogue including those election participated parties. The UN and other friends are welcome helping us in the process. In short, Ethiopians are the solution to their problems and are capable of doing so.


Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 16:08
by Aba

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 16:31
by Naga Tuma
Educator:

I think you are missing my point.

I wrote earlier: “ Sure, there were unsatisfactory answers.”

Please read that and reread your follow up reaction. After that, please enlighten me if my statement without going into the details didn’t already preempt your reaction or if your reaction remains relevant. I don’t think so.

If I may go a little more into the details, my reaction on one of the questions was to easily say “I would refer you to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.” I am not trying to make a point that the presser failed or did not fail to do so.

My point is if you were assigned to do the job as a whole, how better could you, or anyone else for that matter, have done it. It is that simple.

Isn’t it overdue to stop putting bright minds on the spot and hammer them down instead of cultivating them for growth? It is natural for anyone to be nervous when one is on such a stage. That was evident in how she ended the briefing and walked back after her icebreaker, if it is what it was.
Educator wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 16:02
Naga Tuma

I gave her F for avoiding to answer any of the questions truthfully. For instance, why couldn't she say whether Abiy met Feltman or not. That should not be a secret. Another example, why can't she talk/answer about Abiy's visit to Asmara.

Those kind of lame answers and lack of transparency is what is confusing the people and leading the country into chaos.

Note: had the plan and results of the Trump and Taliban negotiations were transparent, we wouldn't see people creating their own havoc in trying to leave the country by hinging on the plane's landing gear and die.

So intentionally confusing others deserves a grade of F.

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 17:23
by DefendTheTruth
Educator wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 13:48
This beautiful lady danced around the questions rather than telling what she knows truthfully. For that I give her F on her job approval.

Anyways, if there is going to be a peaceful resolution to this civil war, who is going to be part of the negotiation process cause I don't expect Abiy to negotiate with an entity he declared a terrorist. He also had spritual guidance to reject negotiations , supposedly from Jesus delivered through fake prophet Birtukan.
How is the entity itself going to negotiate with the same body you called snake, any how?
Educator wrote:
13 Aug 2021, 02:00
Abiy is the snake, the worst satanic snake Ethiopia ever had.

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 18:37
by Dawi
Educator wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 16:02
Naga Tuma

I gave her F for avoiding to answer any of the questions truthfully. For instance, why couldn't she say whether Abiy met Feltman or not. That should not be a secret. Another example, why can't she talk/answer about Abiy's visit to Asmara.

Those kind of lame answers and lack of transparency is what is confusing the people and leading the country into chaos.

Note: had the plan and results of the Trump and Taliban negotiations were transparent, we wouldn't see people creating their own havoc in trying to leave the country by hinging on the plane's landing gear and die.

So intentionally confusing others deserves a grade of F.
Educator,

I don't think it's a rocket science to figure out the reason why "Trump and Taliban negotiations were not Transparent"; there may be several reasons; the starking one for me was, they kept it secret because Biden or Trump don't want to bring millions of refugees from Afghanistan. So, if you hang on a plane's landing gear and die, it's your gadam problem!

Same with Abiy's press secretary; she wants the junta to speculate & shi~tt in their pants on Abiy/Isaias meeting in Asmara; also want to show Feltman has already met the Deputy PM and was told. read my lips, no formal negotiation with terrorists so, it's irrelevant for her to talk about weather Abiy met him, took him to Andenet Park afterwords or not. Who cares except you?

The press secretary would like to talk about Abiy's meeting with Turkey's President Erdogan. the man with valuable drones. :P I don't understand no one asked her about the drones?

Are we getting the cheap combat tested Turkish Drones? How soon?

That's the question! “To be, or not to be"! :~)

Re: The UN Call For Ethiopia-Led Reconciliation Is The Way

Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 19:47
by Aba
You've got anything to say about Cornell? Smart asz
Horus wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 15:21
Martin Plaut,