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ኢትዮጵያ ጀርመን አገር አደባበይ ከሌላት፣ ጀርመን እንዴት ነዉ ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ አደባበይ የምኖራት?

Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 16:08
by DefendTheTruth
International relations are based on the bases of in par with diplomacy between sovereign countries, no one is supposed to be junior and senior in an international relations.

If Ethiopia doesn't have a square in Germany, then there is also no ground for Germany to have one in the nations capital. On what basis has Germany a square in Ethiopia named after its name? Which morality and role model does Germany provide to have been accorded a special treatment in a country that was here way before the yesterday's world trouble maker was even created?


Re: ኢትዮጵያ ጀርመን አገር አደባበይ ከሌላት፣ ጀርመን እንዴት ነዉ ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ አደባበይ የምኖራት?

Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 16:19
by Fed_Up
DefendTheTruth wrote:
17 Aug 2021, 16:08
International relations are based on the bases of in par with diplomacy between sovereign countries, no one is supposed to be junior and senior in an international relations.

If Ethiopia doesn't have a square in Germany, then there is also no ground for Germany to have one in the nations capital. On what basis has Germany a square in Ethiopia named after its name? Which morality and role model does Germany provide to have been accorded a special treatment in a country that was here way before the yesterday's world trouble maker was even created?

Slave mentality?

Re: ኢትዮጵያ ጀርመን አገር አደባበይ ከሌላት፣ ጀርመን እንዴት ነዉ ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ አደባበይ የምኖራት?

Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 16:37
by DefendTheTruth
Fed_Up wrote:
17 Aug 2021, 16:19

Slave mentality?
Do you mean that we have been slaves at one point in time in our long history?

If we have never been, then how can somebody develop a mentality of what it's never been in the first place?

Re: ኢትዮጵያ ጀርመን አገር አደባበይ ከሌላት፣ ጀርመን እንዴት ነዉ ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ አደባበይ የምኖራት?

Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 16:49
by Dawi
Fed_Up wrote:
17 Aug 2021, 16:19
DefendTheTruth wrote:
17 Aug 2021, 16:08
International relations are based on the bases of in par with diplomacy between sovereign countries, no one is supposed to be junior and senior in an international relations.

If Ethiopia doesn't have a square in Germany, then there is also no ground for Germany to have one in the nations capital. On what basis has Germany a square in Ethiopia named after its name? Which morality and role model does Germany provide to have been accorded a special treatment in a country that was here way before the yesterday's world trouble maker was even created?

Slave mentality?
Slave who?

Talk about yourself! :P

My friend, it takes one to know one! Right?

It's probably done in the heydays of "Socialism" to honor E. Germany, they helped us fighting our current friends, enemies then, the secessionists.

Abiy may turn it into "Isaias Square" in foreseeable future. How about that Fed?

Cheers!


Ethiopia
East Germany


Of all the East European nations that provided military assistance to Ethiopia, none played a more vital role than East Germany. Its importance to Addis Ababa derived not so much from its conventional military support, which at times was crucial to Ethiopian security, as from its involvement in Ethiopia's intelligence and security services.

East Germany's military relationship with the Mengistu regime started in 1977, when Socialist Unity Party of Germany leader Werner Lamberz visited Ethiopia three times (February, June, and December) to coordinate and direct the operations of the approximately 2,000 South Yemeni soldiers who were fighting against Somali forces in the Ogaden. East Germany also provided support to Soviet and Cuban pilots who flew helicopters and fighter-bombers on combat missions during the Ogaden War. Moreover, East Germany agreed to give ideological training to hundreds of Ethiopian officers. Even after the end of the Ogaden War, East Germany remained militarily active in Ethiopia. During the 1978 Ethiopian offensive against the EPLF, East German engineers, working in conjunction with their Soviet counterparts, reportedly built flanking roads, enabling Ethiopian tanks to come up behind EPLF lines. In addition, East German military advisers manned artillery and rocket units in Eritrea. Interestingly, in 1978 East Germany also sponsored unsuccessful peace talks between Ethiopia and the EPLF. When these discussions failed, the East German government abandoned diplomacy in favor of a military solution to the problem of Eritrean and Tigrayan separatism.

In May 1979, East Germany and Ethiopia signed an agreement formalizing military relations between the two countries. Then, on November 15, 1979, East German head of state Erich Honecker visited Ethiopia and signed a twenty-year Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation. In addition to calling for greater cooperation in politics, economics, trade, science, culture, and technology, the 1979 treaty also laid the groundwork for increased military assistance.

For most of the 1980s, East Germany, through its National People's Army and its State Security Service, provided Ethiopia with diverse forms of military and intelligence assistance. Apart from military aid, such as automatic rifles, ammunition, artillery, and heavy vehicles, East Germany provided up to five months' training in military and police tactics to members of the People's Protection Brigades, which concentrated on routine police duties at the local level (see People's Protection Brigades, this ch.). In 1982 East German intelligence advisers participated in that year's Red Star campaign against Eritrean separatists. East German personnel often assumed control of Ethiopian army communications sites as, for instance, they did in mid-1988 in Asmera. In addition, East German security advisers reportedly acted as Mengistu's personal bodyguard.

Even after the Soviet Union altered its policy toward Ethiopia in the late 1980s, East Germany remained Mengistu's staunch ally. In mid-1989, for example, Honecker promised Mengistu fifty to sixty T-54/55 tanks that had been scheduled to be scrapped in a force reduction. However, after Honecker's resignation and the emergence of a more broadly based government in late 1989, East German officials informed Addis Ababa that the military relationship between the two countries had been terminated and that all future arms deliveries had been canceled. In 1990 the 550 East German advisers and technicians stationed in Ethiopia were withdrawn. The end of the alliance between Ethiopia and East Germany further isolated the Mengistu regime and reduced the Ethiopian army's ability to achieve a military solution in Eritrea and Tigray.

Data as of 1991