Agew Himra already an independent Mengisti Agew now and separated from Amhara once for all and it has strong 40K fighting forces to defend itself. Next the Qimant people must do similar to Agew Himra and assemble over 70K strong armies. Afar must bring the rest of Afar and Tigray will be with you all the way and secure from south of Adulis to port Asseb, no one is going to challenge us.
-
Halafi Mengedi
- Senior Member+
- Posts: 47698
- Joined: 30 May 2010, 23:04
Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
Qimant is the subclan of Agew. What I don't understand is why they are classified into two separate entities, Agew and Qimant? why do not they establish a single Agew state by unifying their respective population on their territory?
-
Halafi Mengedi
- Senior Member+
- Posts: 47698
- Joined: 30 May 2010, 23:04
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
They are 3 or 4 clans reside in different locations, their enemy is location than themselves. Once the Qimant is liberated they can join as one in Gonder city. Agew Awi is in South eastern Gojjam, Agew Wag Himra are south west of Tigray and north wollo and Tembien, Qimant is north west of Gonder and Gonder city is surrounded by the Agew clans. The two clans of Wag Himra and Qimant will be liberated, already Himra is liberated but the Awi are still with Gojjam and I do not see huge movement by them yet but as TDF marches to Bahredar they will be liberated. Actually every ethnic live in the so calaled Amhara now will be liberated and form their own kilil regardless of their demography, Woyane made mistakes in 1991. The same is true every ethnic will establish their own kilil as soon as the Fuga Zinabu is tossed away.
BTW, the fourth clan of Agew is the Bilen of Eritrea migrated from Tembien Abergele to north Tigray now north western of Hamassien Awraja.
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
Halafi,
So by the unification of the Agew clans to give them homeland and state, both the geography of Tigray and Amhara would be affected. So far we have seen defiance on Amhara side for this project, does Tigray allow Agews to have their own state even it costs Tigray to pay in its landmass?
So by the unification of the Agew clans to give them homeland and state, both the geography of Tigray and Amhara would be affected. So far we have seen defiance on Amhara side for this project, does Tigray allow Agews to have their own state even it costs Tigray to pay in its landmass?
-
Halafi Mengedi
- Senior Member+
- Posts: 47698
- Joined: 30 May 2010, 23:04
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
EPRDF wrote: ↑07 Aug 2021, 15:35Halafi,
So by the unification of the Agew clans to give them homeland and state, both the geography of Tigray and Amhara would be affected. So far we have seen defiance on Amhara side for this project, does Tigray allow Agews to have their own state even it costs Tigray to pay in its landmass?
First the Agew ethnic specially Himra fought the 17 war equally with Tigray and they speak pure Tigrigna and they are part and parcel of the Axumite Kingdom. In 1991 Tigray allowed them to form their own ethnic like Tigray allowed Afar to be kilil despite Afar is pure Tigray but the Amhara refused to do so and took part of the Tigray agew to Amhara administration. Now all Agew clans want to have their own and they have been fight for long time. They were three problems with all Agew clans in 1991, first they were not strong Agew the way they are today, Agew Qimant almost lost their culture and language and they said we can live with Amhara, Awi are not still strong but they maintained their language and beautiful culture. The Agew Himra part of Tigray were and still are very strong nationalist Agew and maintained their culture without any delusion while living part of Tembien Tigray. The Eritrean Bilen Agew are the strongest Agew nationalists in Eritrea and say loudly we are Agew from Tembien descendent.
-
Noble Amhara
- Senior Member
- Posts: 13728
- Joined: 02 Feb 2020, 13:00
- Location: Abysinnia
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
i hate to respond to you gimb ebab juntas. your sayings is the reason why qimants are leaving gondar and ethiopia into sudan. all of Gondar is amharas. there is no need for agew states in amhara region when they already have their own special zones why would they want to become tiny islands to be cutt of from abysinnia? half of them have amhara lineage and thus have a proud identity within the amhara state they are no different then a gondere in the real FEDERAL state of Amhara that gives every tiny ethnic its own islands. Awi and Waghemra see you guys as werari ferenjis invading and desolating their hospitals and land etc just like afar. the people need to escape poverty but here you junta are bragging about your rice bag that you will be depandant on forever
in fact amhara region is preserving them the most while tigray is forcefully assimilating and annexing agew peoples lands by force. forcing them to only speak tigrinya and not to be free rather slaves of the dingai kilil
banda ye banda zer chigray
in fact amhara region is preserving them the most while tigray is forcefully assimilating and annexing agew peoples lands by force. forcing them to only speak tigrinya and not to be free rather slaves of the dingai kilil
banda ye banda zer chigray
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
Halafi,
Stop beating around the bush.
Although I appreciate the explanation you gave me about the Agew people and their geographical location, but you still did not answer my question.
Is Tigray allow Agews to form a state of their own by snatching the portion of land they have from Kilil Tigray and to join the rest of their kin in the south?
Stop beating around the bush.
Although I appreciate the explanation you gave me about the Agew people and their geographical location, but you still did not answer my question.
Is Tigray allow Agews to form a state of their own by snatching the portion of land they have from Kilil Tigray and to join the rest of their kin in the south?
-
Halafi Mengedi
- Senior Member+
- Posts: 47698
- Joined: 30 May 2010, 23:04
Re: Like the Agew Himra, Qimant must secure its territories including Gonder city and declare Mengisti Qimant???
Tigray already did in 1991 the same us Afar.EPRDF wrote: ↑07 Aug 2021, 16:14Halafi,
Stop beating around the bush.
Although I appreciate the explanation you gave me about the Agew people and their geographical location, but you still did not answer my question.
Is Tigray allow Agews to form a state of their own by snatching the portion of land they have from Kilil Tigray and to join the rest of their kin in the south?