Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 18:52
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Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 18:58
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 19:13
Well well, in time of this, calmness is the best option. I do agree with you, everything seems to be very fishy to understand. Taking into consideration, the state departments statements, tigrain warlords adventures and Dr. Abi's none existent reaction to any of the current situation that is going on at the moment makes you come into conclusions of the worst kind but again calmness is the medicine as far as I am concerned.
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 19:24
Do not expect any thing good from arrerra and Katicala drinking Galla leader and followers. We have seen it with OLF in the past 50 years and with Abyi in the past 8 months when the going get tough Galla always run.
ኣማራ ኣሁን የገጠመው ጠላት ከድሮው የበለጠ ነው ኣሁን ደግሞ ያጋላው መከላከያ የተባለው ጦርም ያምሃራ ጠላት ሆኖ ተገኝትዋል። ዓማራ ከኦርሞ ተቃዋሚዎች ከሆኑት ጋር ኣሁን ታጥቀው ኣብይን የሚዋጉት ይሶማልያ ያወላይታ የሲዳሞ የጋምቤላ ኣብይን መጠብበቃች ሁን ትታች ሁ ካማራ ጋር በመቆም የወያኔ የውስጥ ኣረበኛ ሆኖ የተገኘውን ኣብይን አና ትግሬን በኣንድነት ሆነን ላንዴ አና ለመጨርሻ ጊዜ ማጥፋት ኣለብን።
ኣማራ ኣሁን የገጠመው ጠላት ከድሮው የበለጠ ነው ኣሁን ደግሞ ያጋላው መከላከያ የተባለው ጦርም ያምሃራ ጠላት ሆኖ ተገኝትዋል። ዓማራ ከኦርሞ ተቃዋሚዎች ከሆኑት ጋር ኣሁን ታጥቀው ኣብይን የሚዋጉት ይሶማልያ ያወላይታ የሲዳሞ የጋምቤላ ኣብይን መጠብበቃች ሁን ትታች ሁ ካማራ ጋር በመቆም የወያኔ የውስጥ ኣረበኛ ሆኖ የተገኘውን ኣብይን አና ትግሬን በኣንድነት ሆነን ላንዴ አና ለመጨርሻ ጊዜ ማጥፋት ኣለብን።
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 19:41
Noble Qadaada,Noble Amhara wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 18:58since when did oromos become reliable? all oromos did is decieve and manipulate. We dont need their ENDF they are lairs and decievers all we need is ASF and Militia in fact amharas in ENDF should be called to hand over their weapons to Fano and join Amhara.
Really?
Here, you are publicly testifying to the fact that you are only the exact other side of the same coin with the tplf outlaws. Very funny indeed!
They (Oromos) are/were RELIABLE ever since the unbeatable roaring LION OF AFRICA, General Abdisa Aga stood straight against the overarmed, over fed and power intoxicated foreign invaders, fighting the enemy on two continents and multiple fronts non stop until the enemy got totally crushed and sent back to their dark caves with their cursed tails between their cursed legs.
So also did the other world known roaring Black Lion of Africa, namely, Abune Petros (Pope Peter) or Magarsa Badhaasa who publicly met face to face and denounced the invading enemy forces and called for all Ethiopians to take up arms and fight them to the finish, come what may, and for his anti fascist daring patriotic behavior got publicly executed for unconditionally standing in support of Mamma Ethiopia the beautiful.
These cases are only the tip of the iceberg in cases whereby the democratic Gada people of Oromos were repeatedly saving Mamma Ethiopia over and over, again and again, with out bragging too much and ranting empty rantings day and night non stop, while during all of these critical historical crises times your side of the chatter box empty talkative baboons were hiding either under their Mamma's skirts and or in faraway cool refugee homes, enjoying cold beer, eating cold cheeses.
Last but not the least, the gallant ENDF, the pride of all Ethiopians, the Horn and all of Africa, needs to stick together and defend all Ethiopians (110 million) and beyond. Their unity, love for their country, their government and their people is their primary sources of their well-being & power. YES WE CAN!
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 19:46
There is no man named Margasa Bdhasa. His name is Abune Petros and he is Amhara I am talking about today’s Oromos yes they are extremely unreliable Amhara should be directed by Amhara only. We don’t need some southerner to direct us and our state forces. Most of them hate Ethiopia and work for USA
Sadacha no Amhara needs Oromo forces to help. Amharas In ENDF is the only thing we need back on lines
Sadacha no Amhara needs Oromo forces to help. Amharas In ENDF is the only thing we need back on lines
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 19:50
This reminds me of something. Do you remember when a few years ago, the somali liyyu forces and tplf forces were attacking the oromo and displaced over a million Oromos? Did our Amhara allies help us at ALL?! No. Yet we did not say "Amhara betrayed us." This is because we know that it's every man for himself. Eventually abdi tigray illey and his tplf sponsors were chased away.
Now...
When did Oromos agree on waging war against your Abyssinian cousins? Did we agree to wage this war together and then back out? No. Abiy just sent thousands of oromo special forces by the way which we disagree with, but it is what it is.
It's one thing to have a "law enforcement operation," to chase the tplf criminals, but it's an entirely different thing to fight for your disputed lands. To expect oromo to fight for that is silly to say the least.
Remember! Abiy does not represent the Oromo masses. If he did, he wouldn't have feared competing with OFC and OLF in the recent sham elections. He would've been confident to compete with them and win fair and square. Adelem, ende?
Now...
When did Oromos agree on waging war against your Abyssinian cousins? Did we agree to wage this war together and then back out? No. Abiy just sent thousands of oromo special forces by the way which we disagree with, but it is what it is.
It's one thing to have a "law enforcement operation," to chase the tplf criminals, but it's an entirely different thing to fight for your disputed lands. To expect oromo to fight for that is silly to say the least.
Remember! Abiy does not represent the Oromo masses. If he did, he wouldn't have feared competing with OFC and OLF in the recent sham elections. He would've been confident to compete with them and win fair and square. Adelem, ende?
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 20:20
In your case, you are already a Judas style messenger of hate and evil temperament even under normal conditions. But then when the going gets rough you get even more paranoid and irrational. Let the great God who created the Noah's boat and put each sample species for breading in the next new world have mercy on you.Lakeshore wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 19:24Do not expect any thing good from arrerra and Katicala drinking Galla leader and followers. We have seen it with OLF in the past 50 years and with Abyi in the past 8 months when the going get tough Galla always run.
ኣማራ ኣሁን የገጠመው ጠላት ከድሮው የበለጠ ነው ኣሁን ደግሞ ያጋላው መከላከያ የተባለው ጦርም ያምሃራ ጠላት ሆኖ ተገኝትዋል። ዓማራ ከኦርሞ ተቃዋሚዎች ከሆኑት ጋር ኣሁን ታጥቀው ኣብይን የሚዋጉት ይሶማልያ ያወላይታ የሲዳሞ የጋምቤላ ኣብይን መጠብበቃች ሁን ትታች ሁ ካማራ ጋር በመቆም የወያኔ የውስጥ ኣረበኛ ሆኖ የተገኘውን ኣብይን አና ትግሬን በኣንድነት ሆነን ላንዴ አና ለመጨርሻ ጊዜ ማጥፋት ኣለብን።
You are declaring war on yourself by your own self. Take a long breath and wait for a while instead of pulling the rope around your neck and getting suffocated. Amaras are Ethiopians as much as Oromos are Ethiopians too. Together we make Mamma Ethiopia great however slowly but surely. Let us get calm and see the current goings. Foreign elements can be defeated by combinations of rational and planned resistance, both soft and hard, means diplomacy, politics, propaganda, military, giving, taking, negotiating, negotiating, negotiating...
NOA'S BOAT ON THE MOVE!
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 20:58
No one saying that Oromos need to come to rescue Amharas -- Amharas should fight their own fight, but the federal force that is middling and ordering the Amhara Special forces to evacuate the strategic position they have and expose them to the enemy is the problem and it happened many times. The federal forces are under Abiy and he should not play this kind of dirty game. By the way, it was mainly the Amhara forces and the Afar forces who saved the Ethiopian Defence Forces when they were encircled in by weyene special forces -- No Oromo -- no Somalia or other participated on that -- that shows a great deal their commitment to Ethiopians that made up of the EDF, and you should give them credit. The territories that you call disputed became disputed only once the Weyannes incorporated it to Tigry without the people say and uprooted them en mass -- it is like someone takes your wallet and after some time because he took it the wallet became a disputed item. What kind of logic is that?Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 19:50This reminds me of something. Do you remember when a few years ago, the somali liyyu forces and tplf forces were attacking the oromo and displaced over a million Oromos? Did our Amhara allies help us at ALL?! No. Yet we did not say "Amhara betrayed us." This is because we know that it's every man for himself. Eventually abdi tigray illey and his tplf sponsors were chased away.
Now...
When did Oromos agree on waging war against your Abyssinian cousins? Did we agree to wage this war together and then back out? No. Abiy just sent thousands of oromo special forces by the way which we disagree with, but it is what it is.
It's one thing to have a "law enforcement operation," to chase the tplf criminals, but it's an entirely different thing to fight for your disputed lands. To expect oromo to fight for that is silly to say the least.
Remember! Abiy does not represent the Oromo masses. If he did, he wouldn't have feared competing with OFC and OLF in the recent sham elections. He would've been confident to compete with them and win fair and square. Adelem, ende?
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 21:11
To be honest, the idea of every man for himself thinking did not exist in its pure terms even in medieval times. What existed in fact is "One for all and all for one" mutual support and togetherness.Else you will have only anarchy and disorganization at all levels. Humans are gregarious and social animals who like to be together and feel comfortable in each other's presences. Try and go and put one man from birth alone in an isolated island, saying that "you are all for yourself" and after that go home to become all for yourself. I am sure that the person will dies in few days alone and all by himself, thereby not being able to become either for himself or for others.Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 19:50This reminds me of something. Do you remember when a few years ago, the somali liyyu forces and tplf forces were attacking the oromo and displaced over a million Oromos? Did our Amhara allies help us at ALL?! No. Yet we did not say "Amhara betrayed us." This is because we know that it's every man for himself. Eventually abdi tigray illey and his tplf sponsors were chased away.
Now...
When did Oromos agree on waging war against your Abyssinian cousins? Did we agree to wage this war together and then back out? No. Abiy just sent thousands of oromo special forces by the way which we disagree with, but it is what it is.
It's one thing to have a "law enforcement operation," to chase the tplf criminals, but it's an entirely different thing to fight for your disputed lands. To expect oromo to fight for that is silly to say the least.
Remember! Abiy does not represent the Oromo masses. If he did, he wouldn't have feared competing with OFC and OLF in the recent sham elections. He would've been confident to compete with them and win fair and square. Adelem, ende?
Yes at an individual level some people can be for themselves which means attending to their individual issues and selves but at the same time benefiting the family, the community and the country. Even in the animal kingdom animals support and help each other while at the same time taking care of their individual selves as a form of survival. And now even in Ethiopia we have to help each other as Ethiopians (110 million) from corner to corner, holding hands, walking shoulder to shoulder and building a strong bright Sunny tomorrow where every man, women, children may become healthy, wealthy and happy. Health and wealth cures wounds and builds strong and united spirit even among the opposition.
PM Abiy, as an innovative leader made correct decisions in allowing only free and fair election as a form of assuming power while rejecting all kinds of direct and indirect violent forms of arrogant power grabbing attempts. Now then the solid basis and ground work is done so that in the future all Ethiopians may build on the model and have a permanent culture of free and fair election habits accompanied with joyful peaceful transfer of power similar to the traditional Gada system of periodic peaceful transfer of power. Now close to 89% of Ethiopians are happy and relieved after the election got completed and the familiar PM won with landslide victory. Now the country needs to invite investments and promote youth employments.
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 15:35
TGAA wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 20:58No one saying that Oromos need to come to rescue Amharas -- Amharas should fight their own fight, but the federal force that is middling and ordering the Amhara Special forces to evacuate the strategic position they have and expose them to the enemy is the problem and it happened many times. The federal forces are under Abiy and he should not play this kind of dirty game. By the way, it was mainly the Amhara forces and the Afar forces who saved the Ethiopian Defence Forces when they were encircled in by weyene special forces -- No Oromo -- no Somalia or other participated on that -- that shows a great deal their commitment to Ethiopians that made up of the EDF, and you should give them credit. The territories that you call disputed became disputed only once the Weyannes incorporated it to Tigry without the people say and uprooted them en mass -- it is like someone takes your wallet and after some time because he took it the wallet became a disputed item. What kind of logic is that?Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 19:50This reminds me of something. Do you remember when a few years ago, the somali liyyu forces and tplf forces were attacking the oromo and displaced over a million Oromos? Did our Amhara allies help us at ALL?! No. Yet we did not say "Amhara betrayed us." This is because we know that it's every man for himself. Eventually abdi tigray illey and his tplf sponsors were chased away.
Now...
When did Oromos agree on waging war against your Abyssinian cousins? Did we agree to wage this war together and then back out? No. Abiy just sent thousands of oromo special forces by the way which we disagree with, but it is what it is.
It's one thing to have a "law enforcement operation," to chase the tplf criminals, but it's an entirely different thing to fight for your disputed lands. To expect oromo to fight for that is silly to say the least.
Remember! Abiy does not represent the Oromo masses. If he did, he wouldn't have feared competing with OFC and OLF in the recent sham elections. He would've been confident to compete with them and win fair and square. Adelem, ende?
So who is stopping the Amhara's from fighting whomever they believe is harming their people and taking their lands? Do you need abiy, oromos, sidama, somalis, and everyone to help you guys fight the tigrayans/tplf? or?
Of course it was the two closest peoples to the tigrayan battle arena-afar and amhara, who did a lot of the initial fighting, who else would? or could?
I do not know much about welkait and the other lands, except that, it should be handled in a court or by the law-both of you guys bring your maps, your historical records, everything, then debate it. I am not sure that war can solve things, it'll just breed more hate and instability for the future generations. Meanwhile, our enemies, like Egypt are watching us weaken ourselves and our collective military capacity to thwart their attacks.
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 15:50
No more unnecessary detail. Humera, Welqait and Raya's case is closed - they are back to Amhara and they will remain Amhara until the end of the world. There is no possible way to think other than this. To begin with, Amhara people have never recognized and accepted TPLF/OLF illegal constitution and tribal federation. That was why Amhara (home or abroad) fought over 30 years because of their out right objection to the TPLF/OLF fraud by-laws. No one can force you to sign fraud document. Let's not even talk about fraud stuffs of OLF/TPLF.
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 16:26
Could you specify about where and how they betrayed you? I couldn't find the Facebook link you shared.
The moment I see in someone bent on dividing the country, I realise what should be deriving the person, irrespective of what the person would like to claim.
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 18:26
Re: Oromo betrayed Amhara - Oromos are unreliable partners but Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 19:58
I am sensing you must be a newcomer to the scene. The Map of where Amharas live either Under Haile Selasse or Derg doesn't show those lands being in Tigray. Meles is the one who changed and took the area and populated by the people from central and North Tigry. When he changed the map there was no public discussion or the people living there were not give a chance to decide. Not only that they were uprooted en mass to accommodate the Tigrains. Anyway, Tigrians should be able to live and do what they have been doing. I am against any kind of discrimination or mistreatment of Tigrians as long as they don't be a trojan horses for Weyanes. The court has to right the wrong that has been done against the people of Welkit and Humara. Ethiopia is a vast country and should be enough for all of us we just don't have to make enemies of each other.Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 15:35TGAA wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 20:58No one saying that Oromos need to come to rescue Amharas -- Amharas should fight their own fight, but the federal force that is middling and ordering the Amhara Special forces to evacuate the strategic position they have and expose them to the enemy is the problem and it happened many times. The federal forces are under Abiy and he should not play this kind of dirty game. By the way, it was mainly the Amhara forces and the Afar forces who saved the Ethiopian Defence Forces when they were encircled in by weyene special forces -- No Oromo -- no Somalia or other participated on that -- that shows a great deal their commitment to Ethiopians that made up of the EDF, and you should give them credit. The territories that you call disputed became disputed only once the Weyannes incorporated it to Tigry without the people say and uprooted them en mass -- it is like someone takes your wallet and after some time because he took it the wallet became a disputed item. What kind of logic is that?Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 19:50This reminds me of something. Do you remember when a few years ago, the somali liyyu forces and tplf forces were attacking the oromo and displaced over a million Oromos? Did our Amhara allies help us at ALL?! No. Yet we did not say "Amhara betrayed us." This is because we know that it's every man for himself. Eventually abdi tigray illey and his tplf sponsors were chased away.
Now...
When did Oromos agree on waging war against your Abyssinian cousins? Did we agree to wage this war together and then back out? No. Abiy just sent thousands of oromo special forces by the way which we disagree with, but it is what it is.
It's one thing to have a "law enforcement operation," to chase the tplf criminals, but it's an entirely different thing to fight for your disputed lands. To expect oromo to fight for that is silly to say the least.
Remember! Abiy does not represent the Oromo masses. If he did, he wouldn't have feared competing with OFC and OLF in the recent sham elections. He would've been confident to compete with them and win fair and square. Adelem, ende?
So who is stopping the Amhara's from fighting whomever they believe is harming their people and taking their lands? Do you need abiy, oromos, sidama, somalis, and everyone to help you guys fight the tigrayans/tplf? or?
Of course it was the two closest peoples to the tigrayan battle arena-afar and amhara, who did a lot of the initial fighting, who else would? or could?
I do not know much about welkait and the other lands, except that, it should be handled in a court or by the law-both of you guys bring your maps, your historical records, everything, then debate it. I am not sure that war can solve things, it'll just breed more hate and instability for the future generations. Meanwhile, our enemies, like Egypt are watching us weaken ourselves and our collective military capacity to thwart their attacks.
Re: Amhara is capable of sorting out all this
Posted: 16 Jul 2021, 01:31
Wendime TGAA,The Map of where Amharas live either Under Haile Selasse or Derg doesn't show those lands being in Tigray.
We are usually being told Ethiopia has a long three thousand years old history. But when we start discussing about regional boundary especially that of welQait’s, you guys are beginning Ethiopian history from Haileselasie era.
Where welqait and environs demarcated prior to Haileselasie, Yohannes and the Theodros era? Why the region named after Tigrean language. Any explanation?