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[temari]

If TDF really is militarily advancing then how is the Ethiopian government not mobilizing the country for war? What about mobilizing the Amhara liyu, militias and farmers? Thousands will be willing to fight if they are called as we have witnessed last time but we are hearing nothing of such sort. And how come both the Amhara region and Eritrea are silent? Last time TPLF started the war and controlled the northern command there was a massive mobilization but this time not a single sign of this is happening.

Something is fishy and I suspect this has more to do with a backdoor deal between PM Abiy and the US. PM Abiy exaggerated the election security concerns and used it as a pretext to withdraw much of the army out of Tigray. I thought he miscalculated by doing so but it looks like he was up to something. It looks like he is tired of the war in Tigray as he once said and had a backdoor deal with the US and some TPLF leaders. But of course he could not do this before the election but it seems like he promised the west to do that after the election. Ethiopia has paid more than 100 Billion Birr in the last 8 months for Tigray and the cost of living in Ethiopia has become unbearable. It seems PM Abiy made some backdoor deal to leave Tigray for TPLF leaders to deal with and the international community to fully shoulder the burden of the cost.

If TDF really were advancing militarly then we will be witnessing a massive mobilization in Ethiopia and TDF will surely try to cross the border to Amhara in the next days but if this is not happening and TDF is confined in Tigray and there is no war then this is a sign of a clear backdoor deal.

Remember also Abiy urged the Eritrean army to leave many times and I had a feeling the Eritrean government was not happy because it seems PM Abiy told them what he is up to.

The next few days will tell us whether it is the strength of TDF or a backdoor deal what we are witnessing but I highly suspect this is a backdoor deal.

[temari]

Hopefully the remaining TPLF leaders have learned their lesson the hard way. Last time they refused to focus on Tigray and administer Tigray and were fully focused on coming back to Addis and grab power. If they have learned their lesson and focus on helping the poor people of Tigray get out of poverty then well and good. But if not then the next confrontation will not be far.

[Weyane.is.dead]

There's nothing fishy. It's Abiy trying to shut westerners. Their demands for unfettered access and negotiation have been met. Now the federal government has done its part the blame will shift squarely on the shoulders of tplf. Tplf can sing and celebrate all they want but the reality is everyone apart from tplf is winning. Federal government has obliterated tplf and it's not a threat anymore. The Amhara got their land back and reduced Tigray into a small ranch. We Eritreans got all our lands back and we also took tplf's expensive spoons and Forks

[Abe Abraham]

If TDF really is militarily advancing then how is the Ethiopian government not mobilizing the country for war? What about mobilizing the Amhara liyu, militias and farmers? Thousands will be willing to fight if they are called as we have witnessed last time but we are hearing nothing of such sort. And how come both the Amhara region and Eritrea are silent? Last time TPLF started the war and controlled the northern command there was a massive mobilization but this time not a single sign of this is happening.

Something is fishy and I suspect this has more to do with a backdoor deal between PM Abiy and the US. PM Abiy exaggerated the election security concerns and used it as a pretext to withdraw much of the army out of Tigray. I thought he miscalculated by doing so but it looks like he was up to something. It looks like he is tired of the war in Tigray as he once said and had a backdoor deal with the US and some TPLF leaders. But of course he could not do this before the election but it seems like he promised the west to do that after the election. Ethiopia has paid more than 100 Billion Birr in the last 8 months for Tigray and the cost of living in Ethiopia has become unbearable. It seems PM Abiy made some backdoor deal to leave Tigray for TPLF leaders to deal with and the international community to fully shoulder the burden of the cost.

If TDF really were advancing militarly then we will be witnessing a massive mobilization in Ethiopia and TDF will surely try to cross the border to Amhara in the next days but if this is not happening and TDF is confined in Tigray and there is no war then this is a sign of a clear backdoor deal.

Remember also Abiy urged the Eritrean army to leave many times and I had a feeling the Eritrean government was not happy because it seems PM Abiy told them what he is up to.

The next few days will tell us whether it is the strength of TDF or a backdoor deal what we are witnessing but I highly suspect this is a backdoor deal.

It is a decision taken by the Ethiopian government after studying the whole situation. Not necessarily a backdoor deal.

[mitmitaye]

Next will be OLF sharing power- co-running oromia, that include addisaba

[Blueshift]

Temari,

You seem to be a very decent person. However, you have human frailty. You don't have a problem when civil Tigrayans are raped or murdered in the name of law enforcement. Abbiy's soldiers made the people of Tigray angry. Their Ethiopian dignity was taken away from them. They came back. On the other hand, Abbiy's soldiers were ill trained. Without the help of Eritrea, Abbiy would have been toasted by now. Don't turn on him now, after all that credit you gave him.

[sun]

There's nothing fishy. It's Abiy trying to shut westerners. Their demands for unfettered access and negotiation have been met. Now the federal government has done its part the blame will shift squarely on the shoulders of tplf. Tplf can sing and celebrate all they want but the reality is everyone apart from tplf is winning. Federal government has obliterated tplf and it's not a threat anymore. The Amhara got their land back and reduced Tigray into a small ranch. We Eritreans got all our lands back and we also took tplf's expensive spoons and Forks

How can you be sure that tplf on coming back to mini power may not try to go after all of those previously looted but now sliced away lands, spoons and forks, specially the Spoons and Forks which bear very high emotional values? How on earth can the tplf go to have any mini peaceful sleep knowing that those Spoons and Forks are now in Eritrea at the mercy of Eritreans if true?

[Cigar]

There is nothing fishy going on. Tplf aka woyane aka tegarus are dead. The more lie they tell the more they put doubts in your mind and that is the game they are playing.
They are stupid that the diaspora agames (digital woyanes) are making the lives of their supposedly innocent snotty agames.
Falling off the empire state building while saying "I will make it safe on the ground" doesn't protect one from being scrambled egg.

[temari]

Temari,

You seem to be a very decent person. However, you have human frailty. You don't have a problem when civil Tigrayans are raped or murdered in the name of law enforcement. Abbiy's soldiers made the people of Tigray angry. Their Ethiopian dignity was taken away from them. They came back. On the other hand, Abbiy's soldiers were ill trained. Without the help of Eritrea, Abbiy would have been toasted by now. Don't turn on him now, after all that credit you gave him.

Sorry for so many poor and innocent Tigreans to go through hell but the first blame goes to their own sons and daughters they seem to love, TPLF. Of course any atrocity ENDF member committed is absolutely unacceptable.

But telling us ENDF is ill-trained and can't fight is very delusional. We have witnessed how at the start of the war ENDF and Amhara militias controlled wolkait in 6 days starting FROM SOUTH. Are you claiming Eritrean forces were stationed in Gondar? I hope the remaining TPLF leaders will not fool themselves again.

[Weyane.is.dead]

Tplf can try but they will end up in coma. I think they will be sleeping like someone in a vegetative state knowing the spoons and Forks are not being used against them

There's nothing fishy. It's Abiy trying to shut westerners. Their demands for unfettered access and negotiation have been met. Now the federal government has done its part the blame will shift squarely on the shoulders of tplf. Tplf can sing and celebrate all they want but the reality is everyone apart from tplf is winning. Federal government has obliterated tplf and it's not a threat anymore. The Amhara got their land back and reduced Tigray into a small ranch. We Eritreans got all our lands back and we also took tplf's expensive spoons and Forks

How can you be sure that tplf on coming back to mini power may not try to go after all of those previously looted but now sliced away lands, spoons and forks, specially the Spoons and Forks which bear very high emotional values? How on earth can the tplf go to have any mini peaceful sleep knowing that those Spoons and Forks are now in Eritrea at the mercy of Eritreans if true?

[Wedi]

Something is fishy and doesn't add up

ውታፍ ነቃይ temari

"የተናጠል የተኩስ ስምምነቱን ተከትሎ የሀገር መከላከያ ኃይል ከትግራይ ለቆ ሲወጣ ጠቅላይ ሚንስትር ዐቢይ በሲቹዌሽን ሩማቸው ሆነው በቀጥታ እየተከታተሉት ነው"

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[Za-Ilmaknun]

Temari,

You seem to be a very decent person. However, you have human frailty. You don't have a problem when civil Tigrayans are raped or murdered in the name of law enforcement. Abbiy's soldiers made the people of Tigray angry. Their Ethiopian dignity was taken away from them. They came back. On the other hand, Abbiy's soldiers were ill trained. Without the help of Eritrea, Abbiy would have been toasted by now. Don't turn on him now, after all that credit you gave him.

Sorry for so many poor and innocent Tigreans to go through hell but the first blame goes to their own sons and daughters they seem to love, TPLF. Of course any atrocity ENDF member committed is absolutely unacceptable.

But telling us ENDF is ill-trained and can't fight is very delusional. We have witnessed how at the start of the war ENDF and Amhara militias controlled wolkait in 6 days starting FROM SOUTH. Are you claiming Eritrean forces were stationed in Gondar? I hope the remaining TPLF leaders will not fool themselves again.

Can we now safely assume the claim by TPLF that the people of Tigrai and TPLF are one and the same to be true?

[euroland]

Blame the lazy a'ss diaspora Ethiopians, including yourself for getting defeated squarely by the low IQ Agames on Propaganda arena while ENDF was scoring major victories on daily basis, including today in Temben deserts. You guys are easely pushed over by Western pressures.
I recall when the US and the West were putting pressure, including a military threat against Eritrea to withdraw from Tigray; the Eritrean called it a bluff and completely ignored their 6 plus months threat and continued to chase the juntas all over Tigray. However, Ethiopians inside the country and outside including YOURSELF who had nothing bad to say about Eritrea were calling out the Eritrean government to withdraw because of the Ethiopian government was getting a lots of pressure from the West. Some of Dr. Abiy delegation were sent to Asmara a few times to beg PIA to adhere their call. Guess what? Eritrea withdraw to the border Tigrean towns (Yes, they are still deep inside Tigray in all border areas). They withdrew from Mekele, Raya area and Adi Grat and enviros, from central and West Tigray. The West did this on purpose to give the dead Weyane a breathing space. They know Sheabia is Weyane's nightmare and without Sheabia, Dr. Abiy willingness to continue the fight is minimum.

Regadless, the dead Weyane isn't coming back; All the land Amara took over isn't returning. Tigray is DEAD and the Agame's nightmare is just began. If people thought Mogadishu was Bad, then they ain't see what Mekele going to be.

If TDF really is militarily advancing then how is the Ethiopian government not mobilizing the country for war? What about mobilizing the Amhara liyu, militias and farmers? Thousands will be willing to fight if they are called as we have witnessed last time but we are hearing nothing of such sort. And how come both the Amhara region and Eritrea are silent? Last time TPLF started the war and controlled the northern command there was a massive mobilization but this time not a single sign of this is happening.

Something is fishy and I suspect this has more to do with a backdoor deal between PM Abiy and the US. PM Abiy exaggerated the election security concerns and used it as a pretext to withdraw much of the army out of Tigray. I thought he miscalculated by doing so but it looks like he was up to something. It looks like he is tired of the war in Tigray as he once said and had a backdoor deal with the US and some TPLF leaders. But of course he could not do this before the election but it seems like he promised the west to do that after the election. Ethiopia has paid more than 100 Billion Birr in the last 8 months for Tigray and the cost of living in Ethiopia has become unbearable. It seems PM Abiy made some backdoor deal to leave Tigray for TPLF leaders to deal with and the international community to fully shoulder the burden of the cost.

If TDF really were advancing militarly then we will be witnessing a massive mobilization in Ethiopia and TDF will surely try to cross the border to Amhara in the next days but if this is not happening and TDF is confined in Tigray and there is no war then this is a sign of a clear backdoor deal.

Remember also Abiy urged the Eritrean army to leave many times and I had a feeling the Eritrean government was not happy because it seems PM Abiy told them what he is up to.

The next few days will tell us whether it is the strength of TDF or a backdoor deal what we are witnessing but I highly suspect this is a backdoor deal.

[temari]

I really don't blame myself because I think this is a not a bad solution to end the war than having to stay in Tigray for years without an end. Tigreans love their TPLF so they should have them and hopefully the "junta" have learned their lesson not to try an adventure again. But why should ENDF and other Ethiopians bother and die in Tigray? For what? And why should Ethiopia be sanctioned and suffer economically if Tigreans want their "junta"? As long as they stay in Tigray we are all fine and hopefully we all focus now on development and lifting our poor people out of poverty. If this ends the war then kudos to PM Abiy for ending the war!

Blame the lazy a'ss diaspora Ethiopians, including yourself for getting defeated squarely by the low IQ Agames on Propaganda arena while ENDF was scoring major victories on daily basis, including today in Temben deserts. You guys are easely pushed over by Western pressures.
I recall when the US and the West were putting pressure, including a military threat against Eritrea to withdraw from Tigray; the Eritrean called it a bluff and completely ignored their 6 plus months threat and continued to chase the juntas all over Tigray. However, Ethiopians inside the country and outside including YOURSELF who had nothing bad to say about Eritrea were calling out the Eritrean government to withdraw because of the Ethiopian government was getting a lots of pressure from the West. Some of Dr. Abiy delegation were sent to Asmara a few times to beg PIA to adhere their call. Guess what? Eritrea withdraw to the border Tigrean towns (Yes, they are still deep inside Tigray in all border areas). They withdrew from Mekele, Raya area and Adi Grat and enviros, from central and West Tigray. The West did this on purpose to give the dead Weyane a breathing space. They know Sheabia is Weyane's nightmare and without Sheabia, Dr. Abiy willingness to continue the fight is minimum.

Regadless, the dead Weyane isn't coming back; All the land Amara took over isn't returning. Tigray is DEAD and the Agame's nightmare is just began. If people thought Mogadishu was Bad, then they ain't see what Mekele going to be.

If TDF really is militarily advancing then how is the Ethiopian government not mobilizing the country for war? What about mobilizing the Amhara liyu, militias and farmers? Thousands will be willing to fight if they are called as we have witnessed last time but we are hearing nothing of such sort. And how come both the Amhara region and Eritrea are silent? Last time TPLF started the war and controlled the northern command there was a massive mobilization but this time not a single sign of this is happening.

Something is fishy and I suspect this has more to do with a backdoor deal between PM Abiy and the US. PM Abiy exaggerated the election security concerns and used it as a pretext to withdraw much of the army out of Tigray. I thought he miscalculated by doing so but it looks like he was up to something. It looks like he is tired of the war in Tigray as he once said and had a backdoor deal with the US and some TPLF leaders. But of course he could not do this before the election but it seems like he promised the west to do that after the election. Ethiopia has paid more than 100 Billion Birr in the last 8 months for Tigray and the cost of living in Ethiopia has become unbearable. It seems PM Abiy made some backdoor deal to leave Tigray for TPLF leaders to deal with and the international community to fully shoulder the burden of the cost.

If TDF really were advancing militarly then we will be witnessing a massive mobilization in Ethiopia and TDF will surely try to cross the border to Amhara in the next days but if this is not happening and TDF is confined in Tigray and there is no war then this is a sign of a clear backdoor deal.

Remember also Abiy urged the Eritrean army to leave many times and I had a feeling the Eritrean government was not happy because it seems PM Abiy told them what he is up to.

The next few days will tell us whether it is the strength of TDF or a backdoor deal what we are witnessing but I highly suspect this is a backdoor deal.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

The TPLF cadres are gone wild. A party is going on. But I think it is better to tone it down. The Ethiopian defense force is not leaving Mekele. It has just stopped chasing Getachew and likes. Getachew could drink his vodka freely without worrying about his being taken out by EDF bullets , but if one day he becomes insanely drunk and start shooting, the deal is off. The EDF will look for his [deleted].
Maybe those two who Halafi likes to call dictators are much smarter than the cadres who are celebrating on ER right now. They know, I believe, what they are doing.

[temari]

5 days ago, the military spokesperson told us that the army has withdrew much of its forces from Tigray "due to election security concerns" and urged Tigreans to focus on development. He also said but if the "junta" think and become delusional thinking they won the war then he said "we can teach them another lesson as we did before". He also said this is the time for tigrean farmers to farm their land without any fighting.

It is becoming more than clear by now that PM Abiy and some western counties were cooking this and were waiting for the election to be over. This guy told us everything but we failed to understand what he was saying. Now it is more clear. If the war ends like this I'm more than happy. Hopefully we will not hear war in that region for the next 1000 years.

[Blueshift]

Temari,

It is very hard to accept defeat on this proportion. Propaganda does that to you. Abbiy lies a lot. Abbiy declared the cease fire. The weyanes haven't. Meqele may not be the last destination. However. Isayas from the North will be a threat if they head south to Addis. Abbiy is giving himself time to recruit and train soldiers. It will be very interesting what happens in the future. But, remember, the West is on the Weyane's side. Now, they have time to recruit. They have an excellent recruitment tool.

Why are you standing there. For Abbiy's solders to rape and kill more of your sisters. !!!

That is tough. I don't believe they will go after amhara forces in Wekqait this time around. They are going after Abbiy. Abbiy must get ready. Keep lying to the people and see what comes out of this. You know s-egera once said, unlike Mengistu, Abbiy has no place to go.

[temari]

If that was indeed defeat as you are claiming then TPLF will never stop but will go after wolkait, Abiy or Eritrea. Then we know it was indeed a military victory but if TPLF doesn’t attempt any of the above targets then it is clear this was a back door deal and TPLF has no capacity to go after the above targets. The next few days will give us more insight in which direction events will unfold. My guess is TPLF will graciously accept for now what was given to it and will not even attempt to go after the above targets. Let’s wait and see.

Temari,

It is very hard to accept defeat on this proportion. Propaganda does that to you. Abbiy lies a lot. Abbiy declared the cease fire. The weyanes haven't. Meqele may not be the last destination. However. Isayas from the North will be a threat if they head south to Addis. Abbiy is giving himself time to recruit and train soldiers. It will be very interesting what happens in the future. But, remember, the West is on the Weyane's side. Now, they have time to recruit. They have an excellent recruitment tool.

Why are you standing there. For Abbiy's solders to rape and kill more of your sisters. !!!

That is tough. I don't believe they will go after amhara forces in Wekqait this time around. They are going after Abbiy. Abbiy must get ready. Keep lying to the people and see what comes out of this. You know s-egera said once, unlike Mengistu, Abbiy has no place to go.

[Cigar]

Bluesh*it, you filthy wedi qosal mitra agame chenawit sher*mutta, with no shame you say that your coward woyane didn't first beg and ask for cease fire and for the evacuation of the ethio, Erit and Amhara forces like millionsof times so much so you were cleaning dirty streets with your behinds?
Why do you pathological liars agams lie like there is no tomorrow?
Every thing with you dumb as*ses is...it is damn if you do and damn if you don't do kind of thing.
If you really believe that you chased the ethio or Eritrea forces, then dare to go to cross border or to claim the lands which the Amhara reclaimed what legally belongs to them.
We told you that Ethio and even Eritrea mission was never about sitting in your cursed land to colonize you. For what?
To feed you for eternity? Heck no!
It is to break your spine and they did that with flying colors.
Tigray belongs to you and eventually both were going to leave it to you after they finish you, your shera'muta mom and your snotty siblings.