Horus wrote: ↑05 Jun 2021, 14:27
Horus,
It seems that you are absolutist, monarchist, superme power adherent, ባጭሩ ጨፍልቀህ ግዛ አይነት ማለት ነዉ። This idea is what Thomas Hobes stood for and stipulated.
Last time I was telling you about your tendency of my way or the highway kind.
I came across the following video and tried to put into perspectives the views of those early days scientists.
Here is another interesting video, that compares the absolutist vs. accomodatist views of human nature.
I don't remember a book where I read but still remember after something 20 years or so and there was a comparison between the German and French society in the book. The author tries to characterize the Germans as hierarchist, absolutist, a one man show of society, which he claims to be typical of the Germans starting from a family level all the way up to the government level. Germany is still known as a country of the rule of law, the law governs everything in that country without an exception. You don't see many times Germans protesting against their government and if they did, then they rarely turn violent, they just demand and go home.
The case of the French people is totally different: they are perhaps one of the most protesting society in Europe and if they did, they do crash everything. I remember just before few years a protest that was started by people of migration background that almost turned part of the City of Paris into a hell on the earth.
The author also describes the French society as more of equal, feeling of entitlement and egalitarian and without any sort of absolute power for any part of the society, starting from the family up until the top government structure.
In this second video you also see the idea Rousseau represented in diametrically contradiction to that of Thomas Hobbs. Of course it is not based on nationality here, John Locke also stems from the same society as Hobbs himself, but still had a different view.
I am not a social scientist but it would be interesting if such social charaters may have contributed to the violent episodes of our new history which resulted to the most devastating havoc on earth and dubbed the two world wars.
Both of these wars were more or less imposed on the French, while the Germans were the true (parts of) instigators during those days.
In the current Oromo society of Ethiopia, one of the major chuncks of the country's population, there was no active war that was instigated against anyone in the country or from outside the country, the time when we came to a near war condition was when TPLF's persecution of the Oromos reached the state of overflows, no more tolerable.
I remember reading an article about an American Ambassador who was commenting about the current day Ethiopian political organisations (liberation fronts) and he characteristizing the Oromos as egalitarian and everbody with a sense of equal entitlement, which is not so common with the people of the northern part of the country. Probably the many factions of the Oromo organisation might have got to do with such social tendency and behavior. I just assume.
Many of the wars and other kinds of violent history of our recent past shows that those episodes had their root in the northern part of the country (they even boasted about ባህላዊ ጫወታ፣ later on). General Berhanu Jula was talking about "a war that was imposed on us", in the recent war in Tigray and he said "it is critically important if you yourself didn't instigate the war but forced to defend yourself", in one of his public press briefings.
If you like to read more about the Hobbs theory being refuted, then I recommend you a best selling book "Human Kind: A Hopeful History" by Rutger Bregman, the author of UTOPIA FOR REALISTS.