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Posted: **23 Apr 2021, 14:54**

ሰው ለመሆን ተቃርቤያለሁ፣ የሚለው ሻለቃ ዳዊት ወለተ/ጊዮርጊስ ነበር ከድንጋይ ዘመን አስተሳሰቡ ጋር በማስታከክ በጀስቸር እንዲህ ሲል የገለጠው፡፡ ቅዥቤ በሉት!

አንድምየለሸ ሁሉ አማረ “ወለጋን ኬኛ” ይላሉ፡፡ የጎረቤቶቻችን ድንቁርና አያስቅም?

Posted: **23 Apr 2021, 15:33**

AbebeB wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2021, 14:54
አንድምየለሸ ሁሉ አማረ “ወለጋን ኬኛ” ይላሉ፡፡ የጎረቤቶቻችን ድንቁርና አያስቅም?

Abe,

የአብዬን ለእምዬ መሆኑ ነው?

The question is, what "luba" took Wolega? Was it "Bifole"?

Major Dawit didn't say? Did he?

He was just pointing out history nothing more but, you a known "falsifier" in this forum, jumped to deny history. It's just like TPLF; they robbed Wolkait/Tsegede from Amhara in recent history; Dr. Aregawi their founder admitted doing it and there are millions living who witnessed it but, TPLFites deny it & claim it's theirs all along, willing to die fighting for it. No body said you folks can't live & work there as Ethiopians; so, why commit suicide trying to grab the land is a mystery to me.

[[...Bifolé (1546–1554)

During the time of luba Bifolé, the Oromo migration achieved its first major success. While all previous movements had been minor raids on neighboring provinces, under Bifolé new raids were undertaken that began to weaken Ethiopian control. All of Dewaro was pillaged and Fetegar to its north was attacked for the first time.[4] Furthermore, according to Bahrey, the inhabitants of the pillaged areas were enslaved, becoming gebrs (Ge'ez: ገብር gabr; Amh. ግብር gebr, Tgn. ግብሪ gebri), a term referring more precisely to "tax-paying serfs", similar to the serfs in Ethiopia during feudal times. Emperor Gelawdewos, however, campaigned in the south as a result of these attacks. According to his chronicle, the Emperor defeated the Oromo incursions and made subject to his rule those he captured, preventing further attacks for some time, with further incursions reduced to skirmishes. The initial attacks were significant, however, on a much larger and more devastating scale to the Ethiopian dynasty. Despite his reprisals, Gelawdewos was troubled and was forced to settle refugees in a town of Wej north of Lake Zway, around 1550-1.[5]..

Early Expansions

The early expansions were characterized by sporadic raids by the Oromo on the frontiers of the Ethiopian kingdom. After capturing cattle and other booty, the raiding parties would quickly return to their homelands. Actual settlement of new territories would not begin until the lubaship of Meslé.[1] Luba (Ge'ez: ሉባ lūbā) is an "appointed" head of one of the five groups of the Oromo clans.[citation needed....]]

Posted: **23 Apr 2021, 16:17**

Dawi wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2021, 15:33

AbebeB wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2021, 14:54
አንድምየለሸ ሁሉ አማረ “ወለጋን ኬኛ” ይላሉ፡፡ የጎረቤቶቻችን ድንቁርና አያስቅም?
Abe,
የአብዬን ለእምዬ መሆኑ ነው?
The question is, what "luba" took Wolega? Was it "Bifole"?
Major Dawit didn't say? Did he?
He was just pointing out history nothing more but, you a known "falsifier" in this forum, jumped to deny history. It's just like TPLF; they robbed Wolkait/Tsegede from Amhara in recent history; Dr. Aregawi their founder admitted doing it and there are millions living who witnessed it but, TPLFites deny it & claim it's theirs all along, willing to die fighting for it. No body said you folks can't live & work there as Ethiopians; so, why commit suicide trying to grab the land is a mystery to me.
[[...Bifolé (1546–1554)
During the time of luba Bifolé, the Oromo migration achieved its first major success. While all previous movements had been minor raids on neighboring provinces, under Bifolé new raids were undertaken that began to weaken Ethiopian control. All of Dewaro was pillaged and Fetegar to its north was attacked for the first time.[4] Furthermore, according to Bahrey, the inhabitants of the pillaged areas were enslaved, becoming gebrs (Ge'ez: ገብር gabr; Amh. ግብር gebr, Tgn. ግብሪ gebri), a term referring more precisely to "tax-paying serfs", similar to the serfs in Ethiopia during feudal times. Emperor Gelawdewos, however, campaigned in the south as a result of these attacks. According to his chronicle, the Emperor defeated the Oromo incursions and made subject to his rule those he captured, preventing further attacks for some time, with further incursions reduced to skirmishes. The initial attacks were significant, however, on a much larger and more devastating scale to the Ethiopian dynasty. Despite his reprisals, Gelawdewos was troubled and was forced to settle refugees in a town of Wej north of Lake Zway, around 1550-1.[5]..
Early Expansions
The early expansions were characterized by sporadic raids by the Oromo on the frontiers of the Ethiopian kingdom. After capturing cattle and other booty, the raiding parties would quickly return to their homelands. Actual settlement of new territories would not begin until the lubaship of Meslé.[1] Luba (Ge'ez: ሉባ lūbā) is an "appointed" head of one of the five groups of the Oromo clans.[citation needed....]]

ኤርሚቲ aka Dawi ?
I know you can’t stand but defend this. ከየት ታመጪ ተላላጪ ከሆነብሽ ተይውና አምልጪ ኤርሚቲ፡፡ ቀን ጥሎሽ እኔም አላሰቃይሽም፡፡ እዚያው 360 ዲግሪ ተሽከረክረሽ እየጮክሽ በርገር ጋር ታገይ፡፡

You explained that Dawit said Walloga is historically territory of Amhara. Tell me your source that I and the readers can verify. It must be in a standard literature format, i.e., clearly cited original work but not referenced from Amhara clergies, Debteras nor from your Kibrenegest aka Aste’s(አፄ) chronology. The religious or traditional habesha writers are normally entitled for their magical power thus not historian.

I falsify all habesha lies because I am true investigative Oromo journalist. I do it professionally.

Don’t repeat the following Amhara songs of history or so.

አማራ እንደ ብሔር አለ ምክንያቱ አቻምየለህና ልጅ ተድላ አለ Instead of publicly and clearly stating your source to show us your genealogy.

ጎጃም ይኸው አለ እኮ ስለዚህ የአማራ ብሔር አለ፡፡

ስለ ወለጋ ተጠይቀህ (እያወራን) ወልቃይትን የምትዘረዝረውን ዓይነት ማለት ነው፡፡

Posted: **23 Apr 2021, 17:24**

ኤርሚያስ ለገሰ aka Dawi,
ሌላው የአንተ ዓይነት ደንባራ ደግሞ አማራን እንደ ሕዝብ መኖር በዚህ መልኩ ሊያስረዳን ይሞክራል፡፡ በዚህ ፎረም ethioscience በሚባል ስም የሚታወቀው ሰው “ታፍኖ የነበረው የኦነጎች ደደብነት ሳሎን ወጣ.... ‘አማራ የሚባል ዘር የለም ሁሉም ኦሮሞ ናቸው’ ትላለች አንባሳደሯ” በሚል ርዕስ ስር የሰጠውን ምላሽ ተመለክት፡፡ አንተም በዚህ መልኩ መልስ እንዳትሰጠኝ ነው ለመጀመርያው ጥያቄዬ ሳትመልስ ይህን ማስጠንቀቂያ የምሰጥህ፡፡

እገሌውም የአማራን እንደ ህዝብ መኖር ያለመቃው የአማራን መኖር አያስረዳምና፡፡

Posted: **23 Apr 2021, 18:41**

Dawi wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2021, 15:33

AbebeB wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2021, 14:54
አንድምየለሸ ሁሉ አማረ “ወለጋን ኬኛ” ይላሉ፡፡ የጎረቤቶቻችን ድንቁርና አያስቅም?
Abe,

የአብዬን ለእምዬ መሆኑ ነው?

The question is, what "luba" took Wolega? Was it "Bifole"?

Major Dawit didn't say? Did he?

He was just pointing out history nothing more but, you a known "falsifier" in this forum, jumped to deny history. It's just like TPLF; they robbed Wolkait/Tsegede from Amhara in recent history; Dr. Aregawi their founder admitted doing it and there are millions living who witnessed it but, TPLFites deny it & claim it's theirs all along, willing to die fighting for it. No body said you folks can't live & work there as Ethiopians; so, why commit suicide trying to grab the land is a mystery to me.

[[...Bifolé (1546–1554)

During the time of luba Bifolé, the Oromo migration achieved its first major success. While all previous movements had been minor raids on neighboring provinces, under Bifolé new raids were undertaken that began to weaken Ethiopian control. All of Dewaro was pillaged and Fetegar to its north was attacked for the first time.[4] Furthermore, according to Bahrey, the inhabitants of the pillaged areas were enslaved, becoming gebrs (Ge'ez: ገብር gabr; Amh. ግብር gebr, Tgn. ግብሪ gebri), a term referring more precisely to "tax-paying serfs", similar to the serfs in Ethiopia during feudal times. Emperor Gelawdewos, however, campaigned in the south as a result of these attacks. According to his chronicle, the Emperor defeated the Oromo incursions and made subject to his rule those he captured, preventing further attacks for some time, with further incursions reduced to skirmishes. The initial attacks were significant, however, on a much larger and more devastating scale to the Ethiopian dynasty. Despite his reprisals, Gelawdewos was troubled and was forced to settle refugees in a town of Wej north of Lake Zway, around 1550-1.[5]..

Early Expansions

The early expansions were characterized by sporadic raids by the Oromo on the frontiers of the Ethiopian kingdom. After capturing cattle and other booty, the raiding parties would quickly return to their homelands. Actual settlement of new territories would not begin until the lubaship of Meslé.[1] Luba (Ge'ez: ሉባ lūbā) is an "appointed" head of one of the five groups of the Oromo clans.[citation needed....]]

Dawi,
When you mention the Oromo's expansion and conquests, why do you omit the amhara emperors conquests and expansions?
Do you think they magically were born on ALL of the lands that were part of the ethiopian empire?
no. they started from a tiny enclave in Menz, and expanded from there, and brought under their rule other regions, by force.
and where did their ancestors come from? many historians say, from the habashat tribes in what is now southern arabia, and there are detailed books and etc, that prove it, but of course, let's leave that out and focus only on Oromos', right?!

Right!

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