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Zmeselo wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2021, 21:37

It sure looks like it. But they forgot this is not the 19th Century when Africa was caught fast asleep!

Temt wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2021, 22:22

Zmeselo wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2021, 21:37

It sure looks like it. But they forgot this is not the 19th Century when Africa was caught fast asleep!

And this psycho, wants to dim the Sun.



But Sweden canceled Bill Gates’ controversial climate geoengineering project (SCoPEx), aiming to block the sun to stop global warming
https://techstartups.com/2021/04/03/swe ... l-warming/

“Do you know what the emergency really is? You want to hear about the really big emergency? The emergency is that if you guys [Eritreans] succeed [using your principle of self-reliance], you’ll be an embarrassment to Africa. Who wants a setup like yours? There aren’t many governments on this continent that do. There aren’t many governments in Europe. Colored folk who can look after themselves? It isn’t viable. It upsets the world picture. Don’t you know the West has to believe famine’s an act of God? If they believe that, they only have to make a donation. But if they believe it’s an act of bloody politics, they have to really do something, and that’s too, too complicated. So what is the story? The story is you guys will fall on your own f-ucking swords, because you’ve got this crazy idea that the world will allow you to be perfect!

‘These guys [Eritreans] are astounding! Running all this. And you know what? The world hates ‘em for it! The world hooked into the idea of ‘the helpless Africans!

“You know what I think? They are brave to the point of folly and they’re clever to the point of being dumb. No one absolutely no one, from Washington to Moscow, wants them to succeed. No one. … God’s even taken the rain away from them, for Christ’s sake. Even he thinks they’re wrong-headed. The sin of pride … the sin of being sharp when no one wants them to be.”

Wow! Some in the EU, think Europe is still a colonial power in Africa.

That's not the case, I'm afraid!

What you might not know is that not only have both the EU and US been the backbone of Farmajo's rule, but also, as donours they've been supervising the critical election process in Somalia for the benefit of all Somalis, this time without favouring anyone.

This fraudulent lame duck Farmajo, who has wasted four years doing absolutely nothing, has bribed corrupt parliamentarians and they voted for extending his mandate for two years last Monday before the eyes of everybody - while talks on the type of election to be held involving federal states were going on since last September, as "One man one vote" was supposed to be held this time in Somalia but the protracted insecurity atmosphere in the country is still not allowing this.

The frigging Farmajo thinks he's in Guinea Ecuatorial!

This is not about "who feeds you, controls you"!

No one in their right mind could agree with how Farmajo has been trying to manage the election process, which favours only himself and no one else, leave alone bribing a bunch of corrupt parliamentarians in broad daylight to extend his mandate for two years while all eyes are on this!

Somaliman wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:07

Wow! Some in the EU, think Europe is still a colonial power in Africa.

That's not the case, I'm afraid!

What you might not know is that not only have both the EU and US been the backbone of Farmajo's rule, but also, as donours they've been supervising the critical election process in Somalia for the benefit of all Somalis, this time without favouring anyone.

This fraudulent lame duck Farmajo, who has wasted four years doing absolutely nothing, has bribed corrupt parliamentarians and they voted for extending his mandate for two years last Monday before the eyes of everybody - while talks on the type of election to be held involving federal states were going on since last September, as "One man one vote" was supposed to be held this time in Somalia but the protracted insecurity atmosphere in the country is still not allowing this.

The frigging Farmajo thinks he's in Guinea Ecuatorial!

Ok!

I saw the issue from the EU perspective, & our continent in general. The tone sounds menacing & I've a hard time believing it's based on good intentions, for the somali people. If money is the issue, they should then keep it. Not use it as a threatening weapon, while it's dressed in "humanirarianism" to begin with! We saw it with the weyane. Billions every year, but not a word on its record on Human Rights.

Very selective & hypocritical.

Somalia warns int'l community against interference amid poll pressure

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/africa ... 880722.htm

MOGADISHU, April 14 (Xinhua) -- Somalia on Wednesday warned the international community not to interfere in its national affairs, after foreign nations questioned the move by Parliament to extend President Mohamed Farmajo's term by two years.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Mogadishu will not tolerate external interference and threats on sensitive internal matters, which solely falls within the realm of Somali people.

Federal government of Somalia (FGS) appreciates the international community's continued support, but will reject any attempts to use humanitarian assistance to blackmail the country and advance their agenda,

the ministry said in a statement issued in Mogadishu.

Somalia said it will not allow the "foreigners" to interfere with its internal matters, vowing action against such moves and urging the international partners to reconsider their position on the decision by Parliament.

The heroic decision of parliament is in tandem with the aspirations of Somali people for universal suffrage, to determine their own leadership and chart their own destiny,

said the Foreign Ministry.

The statement came a few hours after the international partners said the Monday resolution endorsed by 149 lawmakers is a threat to peace and will disrupt efforts to stabilize the Horn of Africa nation.

The partners including the African Union, the European Union and United Nations expressed deep concern about the passage of the resolution to replace the Sept. 17, 2020 agreement with an electoral process that will result in a lengthy extension to the mandates of the president and Parliament.

We have repeatedly stated that a parallel political process, partial elections, or new initiatives leading to an extension of prior mandates will not be supported,

the partners said in a joint statement issued in Mogadishu.

They said the Monday resolution undermines peace, security, and stability in Somalia and beyond, adding that the resolution will also further delay holding the credible elections awaited by the Somali people.

The partners noted that the implementation of the Sept. 17, 2020 agreement remains the best available course of action and so urged the government and Federal Member State leaders to return urgently to talks to agree on a way forward.

We call on all parties to exercise maximum restraint, continue dialogue, and avoid unilateral actions that may inflame tensions. We stand ready to provide good offices to facilitate and revitalize inclusive dialogue, on the basis of the 17 September agreement,

said the partners.

The ministry, however, said such statements are advancing an unconstitutional regime change agenda and inciting the Somali people against their legitimate government threatening peace and stability. It also said the government has been committed to direct elections by strengthening the democratic institutions, legislating necessary electoral laws and conducting civic education.

Analysts say the current political crisis threatens to further deepen divisions and uncertainty in the Horn of Africa nation and will distract it from the fight against al-Shabab, in which thousands of civilians have died in more than a decade.

President Farmajo whose four-year term officially ended on Feb. 8 has been unable for months to reach a truce on how to carry out the election, with the regional states of Puntland and Jubbaland objecting to some electoral issues.

Somalia's parliamentary and presidential elections took place in late 2016 and early 2017, through a system of indirect suffrage.

Fiyameta wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2021, 23:25

“Do you know what the emergency really is? You want to hear about the really big emergency? The emergency is that if you guys [Eritreans] succeed [using your principle of self-reliance], you’ll be an embarrassment to Africa. Who wants a setup like yours? There aren’t many governments on this continent that do. There aren’t many governments in Europe. Colored folk who can look after themselves? It isn’t viable. It upsets the world picture. Don’t you know the West has to believe famine’s an act of God? If they believe that, they only have to make a donation. But if they believe it’s an act of bloody politics, they have to really do something, and that’s too, too complicated. So what is the story? The story is you guys will fall on your own f-ucking swords, because you’ve got this crazy idea that the world will allow you to be perfect!

‘These guys [Eritreans] are astounding! Running all this. And you know what? The world hates ‘em for it! The world hooked into the idea of ‘the helpless Africans!

“You know what I think? They are brave to the point of folly and they’re clever to the point of being dumb. No one absolutely no one, from Washington to Moscow, wants them to succeed. No one. … God’s even taken the rain away from them, for Christ’s sake. Even he thinks they’re wrong-headed. The sin of pride … the sin of being sharp when no one wants them to be.”

Zmeselo wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:43

Somaliman wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:07

Wow! Some in the EU, think Europe is still a colonial power in Africa.

That's not the case, I'm afraid!

What you might not know is that not only have both the EU and US been the backbone of Farmajo's rule, but also, as donours they've been supervising the critical election process in Somalia for the benefit of all Somalis, this time without favouring anyone.

This fraudulent lame duck Farmajo, who has wasted four years doing absolutely nothing, has bribed corrupt parliamentarians and they voted for extending his mandate for two years last Monday before the eyes of everybody - while talks on the type of election to be held involving federal states were going on since last September, as "One man one vote" was supposed to be held this time in Somalia but the protracted insecurity atmosphere in the country is still not allowing this.

The frigging Farmajo thinks he's in Guinea Ecuatorial!

Ok!

I saw the issue from the EU perspective, & our continent in general. The tone sounds menacing & I've a hard time believing it's based on good intentions, for the somali people. If money is the issue, they should then keep it. Not use it as a threatening weapon, while it's dressed in "humanirarianism" to begin with! We saw it with the weyane. Billions every year, but not a word on its record on Human Rights.

Very selective & hypocritical.

I understand where you're coming from, but trust me their supervision in the election process in Somalia is this time based on good intentions, as they're not siding with anyone or having their own candidate. Their reaction is exactly the reaction of the staggering majority of Somalis, including myself.

Money is not the issue in this case because neither the EU nor US give money to Somali government, as any money they claim to be giving to Somalia goes to their own institutions, agencies, and bodies.

It's Farmajo's bullshit against the rest, and not the EU against Somalis. The EU is not doing anything wrong in this election process, apart from having been so nice for so long with Farmajo expecting that he would hold fair "One man one vote" election as prescribed in the country's constitution long before he came to power and that he pledged himself achieving it and on time.

Somaliman wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 14:55

Zmeselo wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:43

Somaliman wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:07

Wow! Some in the EU, think Europe is still a colonial power in Africa.

That's not the case, I'm afraid!

What you might not know is that not only have both the EU and US been the backbone of Farmajo's rule, but also, as donours they've been supervising the critical election process in Somalia for the benefit of all Somalis, this time without favouring anyone.

This fraudulent lame duck Farmajo, who has wasted four years doing absolutely nothing, has bribed corrupt parliamentarians and they voted for extending his mandate for two years last Monday before the eyes of everybody - while talks on the type of election to be held involving federal states were going on since last September, as "One man one vote" was supposed to be held this time in Somalia but the protracted insecurity atmosphere in the country is still not allowing this.

The frigging Farmajo thinks he's in Guinea Ecuatorial!

Ok!

I saw the issue from the EU perspective, & our continent in general. The tone sounds menacing & I've a hard time believing it's based on good intentions, for the somali people. If money is the issue, they should then keep it. Not use it as a threatening weapon, while it's dressed in "humanirarianism" to begin with! We saw it with the weyane. Billions every year, but not a word on its record on Human Rights.

Very selective & hypocritical.

I understand where you're coming from, but trust me their supervision in the election process in Somalia is this time based on good intentions, as they're not siding with anyone or having their own candidate. Their reaction is exactly the reaction of the staggering majority of Somalis, including myself.

Money is not the issue in this case because neither the EU nor US give money to Somali government, as any money they claim to be giving to Somalia goes to their own institutions, agencies, and bodies.

It's Farmajo's bullshit against the rest, and not the EU against Somalis. The EU is not doing anything wrong in this election process, apart from having been so nice for so long with Farmajo expecting that he would hold fair "One man one vote" election as prescribed in the country's constitution long before he came to power and that he pledged himself achieving it and on time.

What do you think that veiled "threat" from Borrell consists of then, except for withholding money? A coup?

Zmeselo wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 15:35

Somaliman wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 14:55

Zmeselo wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:43

Somaliman wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2021, 11:07

Wow! Some in the EU, think Europe is still a colonial power in Africa.

That's not the case, I'm afraid!

What you might not know is that not only have both the EU and US been the backbone of Farmajo's rule, but also, as donours they've been supervising the critical election process in Somalia for the benefit of all Somalis, this time without favouring anyone.

This fraudulent lame duck Farmajo, who has wasted four years doing absolutely nothing, has bribed corrupt parliamentarians and they voted for extending his mandate for two years last Monday before the eyes of everybody - while talks on the type of election to be held involving federal states were going on since last September, as "One man one vote" was supposed to be held this time in Somalia but the protracted insecurity atmosphere in the country is still not allowing this.

The frigging Farmajo thinks he's in Guinea Ecuatorial!

Ok!

I saw the issue from the EU perspective, & our continent in general. The tone sounds menacing & I've a hard time believing it's based on good intentions, for the somali people. If money is the issue, they should then keep it. Not use it as a threatening weapon, while it's dressed in "humanirarianism" to begin with! We saw it with the weyane. Billions every year, but not a word on its record on Human Rights.

Very selective & hypocritical.

I understand where you're coming from, but trust me their supervision in the election process in Somalia is this time based on good intentions, as they're not siding with anyone or having their own candidate. Their reaction is exactly the reaction of the staggering majority of Somalis, including myself.

Money is not the issue in this case because neither the EU nor US give money to Somali government, as any money they claim to be giving to Somalia goes to their own institutions, agencies, and bodies.

It's Farmajo's bullshit against the rest, and not the EU against Somalis. The EU is not doing anything wrong in this election process, apart from having been so nice for so long with Farmajo expecting that he would hold fair "One man one vote" election as prescribed in the country's constitution long before he came to power and that he pledged himself achieving it and on time.

What do you think that veiled "threat" from Borrell consists of then, except for withholding money? A coup?

What do you think that veiled "threat" from Borrell consists of then, except for withholding money? A coup?

Good question, bro!


Answer: Withdrawing recognition.

Somalia has had six successive governments since the collapse of Siad Barre's government and only the last two ones got recognition from the EU and US. A government can only survive either with the recognition and support of its people or with the one of an external power. Without either of these two, any government would be prone to collapse.

In the case of Farmajo, his term expired two moths ago, which means his legitimacy to the presidency has expired too. He has no significant public support among Somalis to keep him in power and without the recognition of the EU and US, who have lately been hiding under the auspice of the artfully constructed misleading term of "International Community", the current power-hungry entities in Somalia, known as the opposition from hell, and the federal states that are already behaving as if they were sovereign states of their own would make Farmajo's government impossible to survive. And resorting to military force would be the final nail in the coffin for Farmajo's rule.