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No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 19:23
by banebris2013
Based on what is being told on Amhara affiliated medias, there is no better time for Amhara than the present: If we take the number of people claimed by Amhara affiliated media killed through "GENOCIDE", the Amhara population must be close to Chinese if not more. If one has to believe the claim, there weren't enough left to do what they are doing now. That is the only way to explain their recent action here and there in Ethiopia, where they were seen burning farmers villages and killing them. They are proving to everyone that they are the true Ethiopian by eradicating others whom they believe are not Ethiopian. This holds true specially when you fulfill these three criteria: Muslim, Oromo and live in Amhara region. I will not go in to Metekel, Gumuze and other areas
The only thing current Amhara campaign can achieve in the long run is making innocent Amharas a target everywhere. Right now Amhara is fighting everyone bordering Amhara region and their media claims victory as well as genocide. That is like crying while laughing.
On a serious not, what is the goal of Amhara's current campaign? can someone enlighten me please? Is that good for Amhara as a people? Do they really believe they can bring back the past?
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 19:53
by TGAA
It is a propaganda method used by Ethnic cleansears --it is called a reverse victimization and denial of the very crime that took place. Look at your hyperbole " we take the number of people claimed by Amhara affiliated media killed through "GENOCIDE", the Amhara population must be close to Chinese if not more" " proving to everyone that they are the true Ethiopian by eradicating others whom they believe are not Ethiopian" " Muslim, Oromo and live in Amhara region. I will not go in to Metekel, Gumuze and other areas " you have done a good job of trifling at the expense of the killed the mutilated burned in their own home.
For 27 years Amharas have been a victims of OLF and Weyanes and others . Since Abiy came to power even if we go by what the Abiy government made public It is Amharas who get the burning and slaughtering " The wello Oroms have been there for 100 years and they intermarried with Christians and their music and culture is so intermingled you can't tell which one is which , but since Jawar and Iskale made the issue of we vs them death and destruction have became a daily occurrence . And you come here to propagate a white line Amharas as aggressor to justify and continue the ethnic cleansing that the ormia administration wants to keep in wraps . If you really after truth push for independent committee to find out and bring the truth for everybody to know . When ethnic cleansing happens no one is allowed to go and report . The only difference this time around is that Amharas are saying enough is enough .
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 20:09
by banebris2013
"The only difference this time around is that Amharas are saying enough is enough" .
My friend, i suggest you go through your amhara propaganda machine. For too long you have been claiming "genocide", almost every day over extended period of time. starting in 1990s with out having any evidence of genocide any time. As i said before, when they killed they will all be Amhara while the killers are always non - Oromos.
So my comment is based on what you people have been claiming, whether the genocide claim or the victory claim. Look inside your own house before pointing finger. You should know what you claim will come back to you to prove? Yes there was killing here and there across every ethnics line. I have never heard you crying foul when amaharas were killing Qimant people?
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 20:57
by TGAA
whether you call it propaganda or not it matters not that much as they say " አውቆ የተኛ ቢቀሰቅሱት አይሰማም ይባባል " but the besieged Amharas who gets a knock in the middle of the night being called Neftenas know it. Instead of calling their call for help as a hoax- or belittling it oh others killed also or using reverse victimization, it is Amharas who doing the killing. Start from the concept no one should be a victim of ethnic cleansing or no one should be killed because of who he/she is. Let us hold both Amharas or Oromos who are participating in this act, and the federal government and the state government should take the lead. So whoever is involved in targeting an Ethiopian because of his nationality or religion should be punished by law severely. That is a clear-eyed look at the problem. Instead of waiting till the killing fields count reaches the level comparable to the Chinese population.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 21:09
by EPRDF
banebris2013 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 19:23
On a serious not, what is the goal of Amhara's current campaign?can someone enlighten me please?
Restoring Amhara’s previous glory is the goal. The supremacy of Orthodox Tewhdo Church by making it state religion. Demolishing Ethnic boundaries by reinstating former provincial administration units. To control fully the Ethiopian defense institution by marginalizing the Oromos and Tigraways who are happened to be a major threat. These are some of the components of their campaign on the road to their goal. And to achieve this goal they sleep with a devil. No joke this time around!
Land grab and expansion are already in action. Harer city is the first victim silently of this expansionist tendency.
A video of a celebration after eastern hagere sibket twisted arm and secured half a dozen of sites for the EOC inside Harer where 99% of the population is the follower of Islam. Note: The sites were under controversy, considering by the local population as Moslem holy sites because it is a place where Muslim tombs, shrines and cemeteries are located.
Is that good for Amhara as a people?
I should say it is not good for Amhara people considering that nearly half of the Amhara population are living scattered in every part of the country among other nationalities which can easily makes them a target in any bad case of a scenario like you said.
Do they really believe they can bring back the past?
Not all Amharas think they can bring that old era back, but there are some still out there like Mahbere Qedusan who think they can succeed and already engaged in the campaign, and my worry is unless they are stopped by progressive Amharas and the rest of Ethiopians prematurely, they are sending that poor country to its final resting place, a complete disintegration.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 21:51
by TGAA
banebris2013 & EPRDF these rampant Amharaphob propaganda has been deeply ingrained within Weyane and Olftis camp that no amount of mind scraping going to do the job."Restoring Amhara’s previous glory is the goal. The supremacy of Orthodox Tewhdo Church by making it state religion"
"To control fully the Ethiopian defense institution by marginalizing the Oromos and Tigraways who are happened to be a major threat"
Be at least factual : Give us facts . When EDF got back stabbed Amharas went in drove to defend it and saved the day . Is that their way to control the EDF institution ? It must be according to your insinuation . They should have let TPLF ride all the way so that Abiy gets removed -- that would have successfully marginalized Amharas while the coalition of Weyanes and Olfs could maintain their clay foot on Amharas -- I guess that would have been a success . The only thing the Amhara are saying is let us be who we are and that seem to be too much to ask for Amharaphopbs . The phobia got so hyped up because the dead and forgotten Amharas has a back bone to fight TPLF the mighty that were looked up to by OLFts as an idol . Weyas have shown the would be OLFts that as long as you have the gun and the bank you can do anything you want too. How that can be stopped unless and otherwise the OLFs get the chuck of it. Say Kena and everything has to turn into gold. Who is on the way the "hated Amharas" everyone should govern proportional to its representation no less and no more. Addis Ababa is going to remain Ethiopian capital no more or less, and every Ethiopian should be allowed to live and work anywhere in Ethiopia without being discriminated . This are so a radical idea that only Orthodox and Amharas seems exclusively to won it. It is funny that Orthodox in Harar got you irritated as if they never lived there or they come to land in Harar as aliens. When Oromos come in millions in Addis to celebrate Irrecha where not a single irrecha celebrating person lives it is OK. but in Harar where Orthodox christian lived for centuries it is an event to be puzzled about in your mind.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 22:28
by AbyssiniaLady
I hate people who exaggerate every little thing, Only a handful of Amhara are living in Harar, Somalis can easily chase them out of Harar, More than 99% of Harar's residents are Muslims and the vast majority of these individuals are of Somali and Afran Qaallo origin.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 22:31
by TGAA
Why stop there my sweet lady make it 100% since you are so close why stop 99.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 23:07
by EPRDF
TGAA wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 21:51
banebris2013 & EPRDF these rampant Amharaphob propaganda has been deeply ingrained within Weyane and Olftis camp that no amount of mind scraping going to do the job.
Wendime TG,
I am not Amharaphob. I am equally criticizing all factions based on merit and demerit of their performance in politics. Being unbiased, I am pointing out things as it is black and white and bring them on the table for criticism. But from what I see, for you, Oromo and Tigraway politicians are satans whereas Amhara politicians are Angeles regardless of their deeds. Anything that touches Amharas is an explosion for you and you automatically label the person who criticized Amhara as an Amharaphob. Since Amhara is the social group you belong to It is all good, Pretty natural to defend your kind.
It is funny that Orthodox in Harar got you irritated as if they never lived there or they come to land in Harar as aliens. When Oromos come in millions in Addis to celebrate Irrecha where not a single irrecha celebrating person lives it is OK. but in Harar where Orthodox christian lived for centuries it is an event to be puzzled about in your mind.
No I am not irritated not at all. Be it Amhara or any citizen of Ethiopia has the right to make living in any part of the country.
Let me put it this way…assuming two hundred thousand Muslims from the south moved to let’s say to Debre MarQos, Gojam, and they need a place of worship adequately equivalent to their number which would be let us say again twenty Mosques.
As a citizen, they have the right to legally retain those mosques by searching empty plot of land to build on it, but they don’t have the right, under any circumstance, to go for preowned sites to dislocate like Christian cemeteries and churches to build their place of Worship, and I know and you know what the local Gojames reaction would be if that is the case in Debre MarQos.
But that is exactly the case in Harer and I hope you understood what I mean.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 03 Apr 2021, 19:00
by banebris2013
EPRDF wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 21:09
banebris2013 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 19:23
On a serious not, what is the goal of Amhara's current campaign?can someone enlighten me please?
Restoring Amhara’s previous glory is the goal. The supremacy of Orthodox Tewhdo Church by making it state religion. Demolishing Ethnic boundaries by reinstating former provincial administration units. To control fully the Ethiopian defense institution by marginalizing the Oromos and Tigraways who are happened to be a major threat. These are some of the components of their campaign on the road to their goal. And to achieve this goal they sleep with a devil. No joke this time around!
Land grab and expansion are already in action. Harer city is the first victim silently of this expansionist tendency.
A video of a celebration after eastern hagere sibket twisted arm and secured half a dozen of sites for the EOC inside Harer where 99% of the population is the follower of Islam. Note: The sites were under controversy, considering by the local population as Moslem holy sites because it is a place where Muslim tombs, shrines and cemeteries are located.
Is that good for Amhara as a people?
I should say it is not good for Amhara people considering that nearly half of the Amhara population are living scattered in every part of the country among other nationalities which can easily makes them a target in any bad case of a scenario like you said.
Do they really believe they can bring back the past?
Not all Amharas think they can bring that old era back, but there are some still out there like Mahbere Qedusan who think they can succeed and already engaged in the campaign, and my worry is unless they are stopped by progressive Amharas and the rest of Ethiopians prematurely, they are sending that poor country to its final resting place, a complete disintegration.
Thank You EPRDF matured analysis,
Amhara elites this days are like mad dog. They bite anyone who comments on their wrong doings, infesting everyone with their disease. Just see the so called Amharas/pretend to be Amhara. No insight at all. They are driven with what is propagated on their media. There is a reason for 10 million people living in Oromia are non Oromos. over half of those 10 million are Amharas who left their birth place mostly due to chronic poverty, which is the case even today. In two years time i will hopefully comeback to this topic to see how Amharas are behaving. I hope they will stop being mad dog by then, which surly will happen by hook or crook.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 03 Apr 2021, 19:39
by banebris2013
TGAA wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 19:53
It is a propaganda method used by Ethnic cleansears --it is called a reverse victimization and denial of the very crime that took place. Look at your hyperbole " we take the number of people claimed by Amhara affiliated media killed through "GENOCIDE", the Amhara population must be close to Chinese if not more" " proving to everyone that they are the true Ethiopian by eradicating others whom they believe are not Ethiopian" " Muslim, Oromo and live in Amhara region. I will not go in to Metekel, Gumuze and other areas " you have done a good job of trifling at the expense of the killed the mutilated burned in their own home.
For 27 years Amharas have been a victims of OLF and Weyanes and others . Since Abiy came to power even if we go by what the Abiy government made public It is Amharas who get the burning and slaughtering " The wello Oroms have been there for 100 years and they intermarried with Christians and their music and culture is so intermingled you can't tell which one is which , but since Jawar and Iskale made the issue of we vs them death and destruction have became a daily occurrence . And you come here to propagate a white line Amharas as aggressor to justify and continue the ethnic cleansing that the ormia administration wants to keep in wraps . If you really after truth push for independent committee to find out and bring the truth for everybody to know . When ethnic cleansing happens no one is allowed to go and report . The only difference this time around is that Amharas are saying enough is enough .
Look at your hyperbole " we take the number of people claimed by Amhara affiliated media killed through "GENOCIDE", the Amhara population must be close to Chinese if not more"
Show me a single proof of Amhara "Genocide" and prove me wrong. Mind you your 24/7 Amhara propaganda media does not count as an evidence. For example the majority of people killed during unrest in Shashamenee were Oromos and yet you and your likes were telling us as "Amhara Genocide" happened there. You people are like Trump who never ashamed of telling a lie 24/7. You are extremely biased to be taken seriously.
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proving to everyone that they are the true Ethiopian by eradicating others whom they believe are not Ethiopian" That is what Amhara stands for at this particular moment in history.
Re: No better time for Amhara than present????????????
Posted: 24 Apr 2021, 00:54
by banebris2013
banebris2013 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 19:23
Based on what is being told on Amhara affiliated medias, there is no better time for Amhara than the present: If we take the number of people claimed by Amhara affiliated media killed through "GENOCIDE", the Amhara population must be close to Chinese if not more. If one has to believe the claim, there weren't enough left to do what they are doing now. That is the only way to explain their recent action here and there in Ethiopia, where they were seen burning farmers villages and killing them. They are proving to everyone that they are the true Ethiopian by eradicating others whom they believe are not Ethiopian. This holds true specially when you fulfill these three criteria: Muslim, Oromo and live in Amhara region. I will not go in to Metekel, Gumuze and other areas
The only thing current Amhara campaign can achieve in the long run is making innocent Amharas a target everywhere. Right now Amhara is fighting everyone bordering Amhara region and their media claims victory as well as genocide. That is like crying while laughing.
On a serious not,
what is the goal of Amhara's current campaign? can someone enlighten me please? Is that good for Amhara as a people? Do they really believe they can bring back the past?
If one has to believe historic facts and the exiting presence of people on the ground, Gojjames, Gonderes and Wolloyes are not Amharas. They are converts through assimilation process. If anyone, it has to be people around northen showa that can call themselves Amharas. Even then they used to identify themselves as Bulga, Tegulete, menze etc than Amhara.
No wonder there is a difference between Gonderes and Gojjames on the aim of recent Amhara demonstration against themselves, as they are the one who are engaging in the majority of the killings.
Using their freedom of expression is one thing, opening the old wounds is another thing. It appears that Amhara elite are suffering from amnesia. They believe that what Amhara ruling class did to most Ethiopians pre derg, including to Amhara themselves is completely forgotten. " Ye wegga beresa, ye tewegga Ayresa". Unless Amhara has the ambition of independence in the long run, they should not open the old wounds, which will be a disadvantage for Amhara as a people. Politics is like cloud that passes and reappears, whereas damaged relations among people can have lasting Consequences. Think twice.
Amhara politicians current behavior will discourage dealing with them for a common purpose, It will openly encourage others to seek succession just for the sake of not dealing with Amhara supremacy. If one has to learn from history, Supremacy had never succeeded.
So Amhara elites should think twice before permanently damaging the already fragile relationship with others. Insulting Oromo, Tigre and others could make you feel better as if you achieved something. In realty, every insult you make will make you more disrespected than you already are.