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A Calling for Co-operation of Oromo and Amhara Elites Against EPP

Unfortunately, both Amhara and Oromo elites repeatedly fall in the trap of the dictatorial regimes in Ethiopia (Great Oromia). All the hitherto regimes survived and thrived by dividing and polarizing these two blocs of elites. Now, the EPP of Dr. Abiy (EPRDF-2) is using the same mechanism. Why is it easy for the EPP to rule over Ethiopians? It is just because of misguided elites of the two big nations – Amhara and Oromo. They are fighting over past history, present ideology and potential destinations. EPP managed to corner these elites and persuaded them to struggle for unconditionally integrated Ethiopia and unconditional independent Oromia respectively. With that, EPP can reserve the middle ground, i.e union of autonomous nations (language based federalism) as its own position, so that it can accuse Amhara elites as ceneralists and Oromo elites as separatists and manipulated them to fight each other. I did appreciate a position of the visionary leaders from both sides, who signed the formation of an alliance called AFD in 2006 and took a necessary step to tacle with TPLF’s (EPRDF-1) tactic of devide and rule. Can we forge AFD-2 in order to deal with the EPP’s divide and rule machination.
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2018 ... nd-amhara/

Tell your retarded low iq Oromo people to stop mentioning history from 100 years ago and fighting civilians over it

It was quotted by somebody that Meles Zenawi had said: “Amhara – Oromo conflict,  (historical face-off between them) is a unique historical advantage for TPLF to perpetuate its rule. He said regarding the dialogue between Amhara forces and Oromo fronts within AFD, “that it is a marriage between fire and straw (isat ina chid)”. It is really pity that these two big nations lived in a conflict against each other, which was caused by the hitherto ruling class & their sponsors – European colonizers. The effect is that the fate of both nations seemed to be a subjugation by minority group of Tigrean ruling class.

Disregarding the hitherto Habesha ruling class, actually both Amhara and Oromo peoples were victims of European colonizers. The main conflict and imbalance of power between Amhara and Oromo started at the end of 19th century at which time Europeans had their programm of scramble for Africa. It is said that French colonizers used to move horizontally between Dakar and Djibouti, whereas British colonizers’ move was vertical between Cape town and Cairo. These two forces were about to confront each other in the Horn of Africa. To avoid the confrontation, British colonizers had to do their usual manipulation in Africa: choosing one ethnic group as “superior”, and using it to suppress others which they consider as “inferiors”. They told Amhara rulers that they are “superior semitics” and christians who had to “civilize” “inferior animist” Oromo and others in the south. They gave them weapons and helped them by giving military advice. So they controlled indirectly the area without confronting French army. With such manipulation, both Amhara and Oromo became victims, since then both were not free. Amhara rulers being ex-servants of the British (as suppressors of the Oromo), both Amhara as a people and Oromo as the suppressed subjects were lacking freedom.

OPFist wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2021, 10:45

A Calling for Co-operation of Oromo and Amhara Elites Against EPP

Unfortunately, both Amhara and Oromo elites repeatedly fall in the trap of the dictatorial regimes in Ethiopia (Great Oromia). All the hitherto regimes survived and thrived by dividing and polarizing these two blocs of elites. Now, the EPP of Dr. Abiy (EPRDF-2) is using the same mechanism. Why is it easy for the EPP to rule over Ethiopians? It is just because of misguided elites of the two big nations – Amhara and Oromo. They are fighting over past history, present ideology and potential destinations. EPP managed to corner these elites and persuaded them to struggle for unconditionally integrated Ethiopia and unconditional independent Oromia respectively. With that, EPP can reserve the middle ground, i.e union of autonomous nations (language based federalism) as its own position, so that it can accuse Amhara elites as ceneralists and Oromo elites as separatists and manipulated them to fight each other. I did appreciate a position of the visionary leaders from both sides, who signed the formation of an alliance called AFD in 2006 and took a necessary step to tacle with TPLF’s (EPRDF-1) tactic of devide and rule. Can we forge AFD-2 in order to deal with the EPP’s divide and rule machination.
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2018 ... nd-amhara/

Hmm...
I am not a politician but yet we LOVE THE APP the more you hate them because you have nothing to offer from your side except hate and constant baseless coffee house gossips and bad mouthing as if that may help in trying to grab power and reduce that country in to the endless divided and chaotic petty fiefdoms being controlled by petty redneck rural war lords like Libya, Iraq, Yemen, etc. currently swimming in the sea of hopelessness and despair.

If you have anything with substance go and compete peacefully and gain acceptance for your agendas instead of moaning and ranting day and night for not being able to shoot and loot your way up to the top of power. Leave alone the people who have the longest practical experiences in politics and government and rather learn from them how to make peaceful political transition and peaceful governance activities because that have already awarded them the fa mouse Nobel Peace Gold Award for the first time in 3000 years of Ethiopian history, which made all of these qiraqinbos very jealous and outraged.

Amharas and Oromos are already working together unless you are trying to save your ToraBora tplf buddies by fooling some emotional Amharas to come and fight Oromos with you and then put you, (unknown & untested quantity) in the newly renovated palace.

Then, Tigrean ruling class played similar role as servant of American imperialists again to suppress the Oromo and of course at the Amhara were also oppressed. Theoretically, now there is nothing which can hinder alliance of Amhara pro-democracy forces and Oromo pro-freedom fronts to come together and fight for their freedom and democracy as they attempted in AFD, but still there are practical problems. Both need yet to stop their striving for mere “unconditional integration” and mere “unconditional independence” respectively. Amhara forces pushing for unconditional integration makes Oromo freedom fighters only to be sceptical for they know what the unity forces want to achieve with this pretext. At the same time an attempt of some of Oromo freedom fighters to forge independence without giving any possibility for a union and without giving value for the benefit of union between neighbouring nations push Amhara forces to panic because they think that they will be driven out of Oromia. Such move of certain part of Oromo fronts seems to be as counter-productive as the vehement wish of Amhara forces for unconditional integration.

Beside that, TPLF manipulated this “difference” between the two big nations to creat more discord and make them fight each other. Now, EPP is doing the same. In order to neutralize such action of TPLF, very important for the two nations was to concentrate on common agenda: freedom and democracy. Both of them came to their sense and rallied behind these two ideals, so that the other two virtues they wanted to realize, i.e free Oromia within Ethiopian union van now be fullfilled indirectly. Was this impossible? It is possible if all nations in the empire will be free from tyranny, killing, and looting like what was happening under TPLF. So our main problem was the lording, killing and looting that all the nations in the empire did suffer under the TPLF. Victims from the two big nations needed to wake up and say together: NO to the fascist TPLF! It is now necessary to take similar step against the currently ruling dictatorial EPP.

To achieve durable alliance of the two forces against EPP, the two big nations need to forge one common ground as a common goal. I recommend as a common goal: union of free peoples, i.e free Oromia and free Amharaland within Ethiopian union as a result of self-determination of each nation. Till now, it was very difficult to get a common purpose on which Oromo pro-freedom fronts and Amhara forces could agree. Oromo fighters argued that the Oromo must be free from colonization by any meanse and then build union based on free will. Very few smart part of Amhara forces argued that Habesha are the Abyssinized Oromo and Agaw, who are speaking Amharinya and Tigrinya, so the Oromo don’t have to separate from their own people, but they should bring the Habeshanized Cushites back to their lost origin and the Oromo should have an appropriate leading role in politics of the country.

Further more, most of Amhara pro-democracy forces do fear disintegration of the empire they did build. So they seem to did every thing possible so that Oromo freedom fighters never have an upper hand in the empire’s politics for they fear that these fronts may opt for independence of Oromia. On the contrary, Oromo freedom fighters do all things possible to hinder the come back of Amhara forces to power, for they know what these forces are going to do – Amharinization of whole nations in the empire. The two big nations simply sabotaged each other’s succeess. As an example we can look at the political moves during and after election 2005. As CUD which was dominated by  Amhara forces was almost on the verge of coming to power, all Oromo freedom fighters didn’t give support. As OLF was in its highest point of influence and forged AFD to be an alternative for power in Finfinne, Amhara forces were those, who vehemently opposed the alliance.

Tigray, Oromo, Sidam, Wolaita coalition should be formed and take power in a form of a transtional government. The Amara should not participate in the transition government for they are expansionist and tribalists. For the first time in our history, the Amara have killed thousands of non-Amara people for the simple reason they are not Amara.

We need to re-educate the Amara first before allowing them to participate in power

This mistrust between Amhara forces and Oromo fronts is a God-given opportunity which EPP uses to rule over the country. Till these two groups come to terms and cooperated against EPP, all nations in the empire have to settle for rule of EPP not only for few years, but for many decades. I think union of free peoples based on the right of nations to self-determination is a middle ground and can be used as a common purpose on which the two giant nations of the region can further agree. Union of free Amhara, Tigrai, Afar, Oromo, Ogaden, Sidama, Gurage…..etc as a result of their respective self-determination and even the union including Eritrea, Djibouti, Somaliland, Puntland and Somalia (if they agree) is a noble cause for which all can fight together. Not accepting this model means unconditional separation of these independent nations as an alternative

The question yet to be asked is: do Amhara forces choose to settle for this last alternative or should they be compelled to accept such fact? I knew the TPLFites accept such alternative of separation as soon as they sensed that they lose power in Finfinne palace. To compell Amhara forces accept such union based on national self-determination, we just have to demote Amharinya to be used in only Amhara region and promote Afaan Oromo to federal working language. Then, Amhara elites will see that Ethiopianity will not be equivalent to Amharanet (as it is now), but it will be the same to Oromummaa. In such a scenario of Oromummaa being equivalent to Ethiopianity, Oromo freedom fighters will definetly start to be pro Ethiopianity against “ethnicity” and Amhara forces will begin to defend their identity by opting for self-determination of Amhara people, so they will start to support “ethnicity” and reject Ethiopianity = Oromummaa. This way, they can comprehend what it means to struggle for national independence with or without regional union.

Till now, certain steps have been taken by the OLF to forge common ground with Amhara forces and to kill TPLF in Ethiopian political history. The short sighted TPLF, who was good at winning battles, but could never win the war, thought that it was possible to destroy the OLF by persecuting and massacring its supporters. But these actions of TPLF gave the OLF even more Oromo support, which it actually didn’t have till 1991. Further more interesting is that the OLF killed not supporters of  TPLF, but it took away the existence of TPLF in Ethiopia in a long run. OLF did this by taking two very important steps. In 1992, OLF denied TPLF the legitimacy it needed in Oromia. With that, TPLF became eternal enemy of the Oromo. TPLF could have made the OLF its partner and would have enjoyed support of all Oromo, but it formed OPDO and made itself alien to the Oromo people. In 2006, the OLF formed AFD together with Amhara parties like CUD and with that it took away the very important instrument TPLF used to rule over Ethiopians: designating Amhara forces as centeralists and Oromo freedom fighters as separatists; so these two groups fight each other instead of struggling together against TPLF. Slowly, this instrument died and TPLF wass under attack from both the Amhara and Oromo. The same thing must Happen nie against EPP. Surely, take it only 1 year or as long as 10 years, EPP will die away like Isepa of Derg and EPRDF of Woyane. After losing power, EPP will be remembered in Ethiopia as bad a regime as Naizi is now remembered in Germany. The coming generation will distance itself from EPP and will be ashamed of its history just like the new generation of Germany is doing now regarding their forefather’s deed.

Actually, I do appreciate the effort of Amhara forces, who are trying to foster democratic unity of the country. It is not bad to advocate such unity. As I understood from their hitherto writings, they do use both religious and political methods to promote and keep the unity. This is actually very dangerous combination, specially when used by one and the same individual. I advise them as individuals to leave one method and persue the other. The problem is that as a politician, one can persue interest of the group he/she does support, e.g interest of Amhara forces to keep the empire intact against interest of Oromo freedom fighters to dismantle the empire and build union. As a religous person, one is morally obliged to think inclusive, trying to satisfy both Amhara forces and Oromo fronts, which will bring him/her in to difficult position. Otherwise in order to know what type of unity the Amhara do advocate, they need to see difference between an empire and a union. Amhara forces use the euphemy, unity, to mean keeping the empire intact. Just to put the difference in short, empire is “unity per force” and union is “unity based on free will”. If Amhara forces are believers of this second premise, then they also do risk that “free will” of peoples to be expressed in referendum can lead to independence of nations without union instead of only to the unconditional unity which they want to achieve.

Other wise, it is good to see that there is also difference between unity and union. The first is pre-modern, whereas the second is post-modern. In summary here is the difference between pre-modern unity and post-modern union. I don’t remember his name, but certain English scholar classified countries in the world in to three: 1- pre-modern chaotic states like artificial constructs/countries in Africa, such as Abyssinian empire, which Amhara forces seem to love, 2- modern nation-states like some mono-national-states in Asia and Latine America and 3- post-modern union of free nations like those in European union. So, Amhara forces should see that African nations, including those in Ethiopia, are kept as pre-modern due to the arrangement made by European colonizers and this is still being perpetuated further by AU dictators, who are dedicated not to change it. But Africans need to leave artificial nations like Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Nigeria, Djibouti, Somaliland, Somalia and Kenya behind and forge productive natural nation-states like Tigrai, Amhara, Afar, Oromia, Hausa, Yoruba, Somalia…etc in order to be transformed from our present position (pre-modern), passing through the stage of modern status like an independent Oromia without union further to post-modern situation like free Oromia within union of free peoples, the most beneficial status which Europeans them selves are enjoying now.

I hope Amhara forces do not misunderstand my position here. I am not representative of the OLF as some accuse me often, but I am simple private person who tries to think independently. There can be certain views of mine which may be the same to that of OLF, but not always. Supporting OLF unconditionally and helping it to be on power is not my goal. My goal is self-determination of the Oromo which can lead to an independent Oromia within union of free peoples or to an independence of all nations without union. I know few Amhara forces do accept the first option, but many of them do reject the second goal. They do want larger unitary Ethiopia than the “inferior mini states” such as Amhara state and Oromia state. I am also for the larger union based on free will of the Oromo, which can be result of referendum. But I don’t agree with idea of some Amhara forces, who do advocate for unconditional unity, which is dictatorial. To forge the common goal, i.e democratic union based on self-determination, we need alliance of all Amhara forces and Oromo fronts against EPP. I hope this is also the status, which some Amhara forces want to achieve. This form of alliance between Amhara forces and Oromo fronts is a means to get rid of the dictator and the alliance can struggle for union of free peoples in the region as an END.

Some Amhara forces even, at least theoretically, do believe that destiny of Oromo people should be decided by only Oromo people who live in Oromia and “who are also Ethiopians”. If they really believe in what they some times write, that means they are ready to leave the decision on Oromo destiny for the Oromo. Then the question to be asked is: what will happen if the very Oromo they do mention as part of Ethiopians do decide against unity which they want, but opt to build an independent Oromia without union? Do Amhara forces accept it and move on or do they fight against it? Further more, they should be clear on the type of unity they want to forge. Union based on free will or unity by force? Those who do advocate unity by force have their own arguements. Specially it is interesting to read that some of them are trying to instrumentalize the present American politics in order to push for success of their own type of unity, which is again an euphemy for keeping the empire. They do say just as American union was saved by force, we will struggle to save Ethiopian union. Can’t their “intellectual” mind grasp the difference between the two “unions”? America is the land of immigrants being melted together to take American identity speaking only English. Do they want all the native “Ethiopian” nationalities be melted to take such uniformity and speak only Amharinya?

As far as I know, even the most liberal movements like Ezema advocates unconditional integration, which is not goal of Oromo fronts and not the wish of other oppressed people, who do fight for self-determination. I am not against union based on free will of all nations, but I am against forced unity of any kind, which disregards free will of nations like the Oromo. If Ezema wants alliance of purpose with Oromo fronts like the OLF, I just suggest that it accepts union based on self-determination of nations as common denominator, instead of talking about unconditional unity. I also read that Ezema was calling for an alliance of all Amhara forces and Oromo fronts as means to get rid of EPP. I do accept this attempt, but my concern and the question I would like to ask is: alliance of whom against the EPP?

EthioRedSea wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2021, 14:58

Tigray, Oromo, Sidam, Wolaita coalition should be formed and take power in a form of a transtional government. The Amara should not participate in the transition government for they are expansionist and tribalists. For the first time in our history, the Amara have killed thousands of non-Amara people for the simple reason they are not Amara.

We need to re-educate the Amara first before allowing them to participate in power

Amhara extremists(exclude the sober amara moderates) have already told that dimwitted OPFist guy begging help from his masters because he thinks just like them that they have created Ethiopia just like the great God created everything on creation day, which means that all Ethiopians should worship and submit to the enslavement of the amara extremist Gods, who created Ethiopia and by extension created all the Ethiopians, past and current.

OPFist wrote: ↑

16 Mar 2021, 19:17

As far as I know, even the most liberal movements like Ezema advocates unconditional integration, which is not goal of Oromo fronts and not the wish of other oppressed people, who do fight for self-determination. I am not against union based on free will of all nations, but I am against forced unity of any kind, which disregards free will of nations like the Oromo. If Ezema wants alliance of purpose with Oromo fronts like the OLF, I just suggest that it accepts union based on self-determination of nations as common denominator, instead of talking about unconditional unity. I also read that Ezema was calling for an alliance of all Amhara forces and Oromo fronts as means to get rid of EPP. I do accept this attempt, but my concern and the question I would like to ask is: alliance of whom against the EPP?

Hmm...

Instead of dreaming to get rid of EPP, a working and experienced competent group and try to grab power using violence and through that find yourself in the middle of endless violence and chaos like Libya, Syria, yeomen, etc. just be yourself and join the peaceful political process by fulfilling all the necessary criteria 100% including the presentation of your political and social programs meant to help the Ethiopian people and if accepted and endorsed by the people then join the parliament and advocated for the implementation of your program if you find majority support. Otherwise just emptily power mongering based on jealousy and envy coupled with endless swan songs may not take you any where.

Your goal need not be the same old cheap self serving substandard Ethiopian politics where by people come together like mafia gangs just to be anti government like mad anarchists and when the government fall apart these same groups begin crumbling and getting destroyed themselves even faster than the government whom they were able to destroy because knowing how to oppose and how to destroy is much different from uniting, forming and developing a fully functional stable state interacting with other stable stable states and nations. BINGO!