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Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 09:06
by Lakeshore

His wisdom and experience saved many Ethiopian's life and makes the Agame demise to be faster than light speed. Also, his unwavering support against the ignorant Sudan invasion proves to be our real friend from the heart not like the twisted Agame heart. Therefore, he deserves everything that Ethiopia can give to her heroes. The Ethiopian government should give him a holiday mansion in any place he chooses in Ethiopia with honorable Ethiopian citizenship and protection. So that Ethiopia will be his second home from home.

President Issayas truly showed for Ethiopians and Ethiopia again and again. In the current Sudan aggression, so many Agames stand with the enemy Sudan. We have seen their post cheering for Sudan and even the former Ethiopian so-called Agame junta TPLF general Abebe and ugly Seye conspire against Ethiopia in collaboration with Sudan against Ethiopians who feed and shelter them. But president Issayas stand with us against all odds and mobilize his mechanized brigade to the Sudan border in support of us. who did that except only the Amhara militia in Ethiopia? The shameless Abdisa phony Galla militia has no interest in protecting Ethiopia because they see it as not a Galla region, they are consumed with ethnic politics and missed the big picture of protecting the nation.

Tigree Agame is born bandas and continued their treasonous path of anti-Ethiopianism. The Gumuze subhumans the same as Galla they just think of food to cannibalize. The only true ally we have is the Eritrean people so far and we need to show them our appreciation.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 09:56
by Lakeshore
President Isayas proved to be Good as a bother and helpful as a neighbor than some ethnic first misfits under the Ethiopian flag. The Ethiopian government should officially acknowledge his unwavering support for united Ethiopia as soon as possible. As we punish the owt law junta for disturbing peace we should also commend those who advise us during our struggle and stand with united against Sudan's aggression. It is Issayas Afeworki who grow up in Ethiopia and closer than the agames who said Sudan is closer to them than we Ethiopians.

The government should give the highest Award and a holiday home in any region, security, and everything he needs to live here and Ethiopia will be his second home. Many Ethiopians are asking me to raise money to do this but i suggested let the government take the leading role.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 10:12
by Zmeselo
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 09:56
President Isayas proved to be Good as a bother and helpful as a neighbor than some ethnic first misfits under the Ethiopian flag. The Ethiopian government should officially acknowledge his unwavering support for united Ethiopia as soon as possible. As we punish the owt law junta for disturbing peace we should also commend those who advise us during our struggle and stand with united against Sudan's aggression. It is Issayas Afeworki who grow up in Ethiopia and closer than the agames who said Sudan is closer to them than we Ethiopians.

The government should give the highest Award and a holiday home in any region, security, and everything he needs to live here and Ethiopia will be his second home. Many Ethiopians are asking me to raise money to do this but i suggested let the government take the leading role.
Eventhough I perfectly understand where you're coming from & it's of course all up to him, but my 2 cents on this issue:

1. I don't think he grew up in Ethiopia, but went the 1st few years of University there.

2. He's not a mansion or fancy cars, kinda guy.

At least, this is the picture I've of the man.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 10:22
by sebdoyeley
the white man has played his last cards by facing us against each other in Africa for almost a century and a half, we are at the end of the tunnel now. we may far from the light but certainly, the tunnel is ending.
so punching the Sudanese is not a good idea but show them the wise way to solve differences so can we unite the whole of Africa.
by the way, Sudanese are not naturaly warriors they are actors, they know the Egyptians will not going to save them when the day comes.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 10:33
by Cigar
To echo brother Zmeselo's point. Isayas didn't live in Ethiopia. But even if he did what got that to do with his view or vision?
Yes he was there at the university for not over 2 years. And Isayas just like all of us including me didn't go to Addis to study because we want to, but becaus the mother f**ker midget, cobwebbed feet selassie unrecognized our Asmara university due to his evil, systematically drain Eritrea's youth and for the purposes to disperse the youngs out of Eritrea to not fight for our independence.
And secondly why are you only giving PIA the credit to how Eritreans looked down upon the filthy tegarus. We all had and have the same mind set when it comes to the filthy agames.
As far as mansion, there is no mansion better than being in Eritrea be it in a hut house or the beach.
All PIA and the Eritrean people demand is respect and if you really believe he deserves it, then advocate your people to follow your view.
As far as we are concerned we proved time and again, we will respect to all who respect us and we will fu*ck up to any one who trys to backstab us.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 11:39
by experts
Zemeslo: why don't you just be honest and say it like a man. sing a poor failed misrably and looking to save it , so the easy way out is to re-join Ethiopia. Maferia what a failed state. Gura Bicha

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 11:59
by sarcasm
A mansion? He's become the modern-times Niguse Negest of Horn of African - why would he accept a citizenship of one of his "kingdoms"? I don't think you are following the politics of the regions. The pecking order has changed in November. Abiy has become a mere Negus.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 12:31
by Lakeshore
Many of you have a different opinion about this idea but the committee is already formed to ask the Ethiopian parliament this question but it is as important as the action to get people's input. Just address some thrown idea, Eritrea is separated and I guess about 2o somethings years and wedi afom is not 20 years old and that makes him Ethiopian by default. Let's keep aside the emotion and focus on the facts. he did everything any Ethiopian did as a child. As he grew up he believed and lead the struggle to fight power and independence. As Ethiopian, he was our enemy and we fought him and his belief. He single-handedly brought the Subhuman Agames upon us but as he got wiser and wiser he understood Agames were worse than his sworn enemy Derg. The Agame junta drove Eritrean into poverty by advocating sanctions against the Eritrean peoples and wedging a bloody war that cost more than 100 000 lives for nothing.

My point is he was our enemy and stood against our unity and prosperity but his intention was directed toward the Ethiopian administration but it collateral damaged extended to individuals. The intertwined hate and love relationship between Ethiopia and Eritrea rekindled and got any outlook as Bbyi came to power and stretch his hands to Issayas and he responded with a full heart.

He helped our young leader to outmaneuver the Agames and make a heartwarming visit to Ethiopia and said let us forget the past and restart a new era with trust and transparency. It is fact that the Eritrean economy is in tater and we do not gain much economically by siding with Eritrea but the human relationship and the peace will benefit both countries than being an enemy. Abyi showed his joy by opening Ethiopia for Eritrean and Eritrea also showed by standing beside us for good or bad.

For this kind of leadership and change, of course, Issayas deserve anything that Ethiopia can offer, and of course if he accepts we want him to be an Ethiopian redeemer be our citizen again even if he fought against us before. We Ethiopians like honest heroes, not looters Agames.
ጊዜ የፈተነው ወዳጅነት ነው

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 12:40
by Zmeselo
I know you're deficient, but ur fellow Ethiopian opened this thread. Now go back from whichever hole you crawled out from, you rat.

Had Eritrea been a failure you wouldn't be sooo mad, would ya? You would be rejoicing. :mrgreen:

experts wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 11:39
Zemeslo: why don't you just be honest and say it like a man. sing a poor failed misrably and looking to save it , so the easy way out is to re-join Ethiopia. Maferia what a failed state. Gura Bicha

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 13:47
by Temt
Dear Lakeshore,
leaving the emotional baggage aside, I appreciate your recognition of what PIA has done to create a harmonious neighborly relationship with Ethiopia and Ethiopians. I believe the sooner Ethiopians recognize the following the better our relations will be:
1)Eritrea was united with Ethiopia by Emperor Haile Selassie by illegally abrogating the 1952 UN Federal arrangement and forcefully annexing Eritrea into Ethiopia,
2)After 30 long and bitter years of death and destruction suffered under the various Ethiopian regimes, Eritrea freed herself from the yoke of Ethiopian hegemony and liberated itself without any sympathy or help from the Ethiopian people,
3)Without asking for any compensation from the Ethiopian government, for all the damages it committed against Eritreans, Eritrea was magnanimous enough to offer an olive branch to Ethiopia after Eritrea was recognized as a sovereign state and a member of AU and the UN. In a clear attempt to strengthen the solidarity between the two countries, Eritrea,
a.Stating let bygones be bygones, it offered the use of our ports by Ethiopia at a nominal service fee payable by the local currency,
b.Proposed a common defense and security agreement and converging political and economical views etc, etc,
4)And when we were thought that the ugly war and talk of war were finally behind us, the then government of Ethiopia unleashed yet again another “senseless war” and attacked an unsuspecting Eritrea in 1998.
5)This was done in spite of Eritrea asking the Weyane leaders that any disagreement and territorial claims/counterclaims should only be resolved by peaceful means on a table, not by irresponsible belligerence on the battlefield. But the Weyanes, believing in the strong backing of their foreign supporters, refused the hand extended by Eritrea and declared war against Eritrea instead causing untold damages and suffering including the kicking out over 90,000 Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin from Ethiopia confiscating their hard work lifelong belongings. The rest is history.
6)As they say it takes two to tango. We can only continue to live harmoniously, as good neighbors, if the two parties do not harbor some ill feelings toward the other and avoid, not only attempting, but even thinking of a Trojan Horse type surprise. Unless and until Ethiopians accept fully the national sovereignty, political independence, and territorial integrity of Eritrea, I am afraid there will always remain the suspicion that has been haunting us, not only in the Horn region but beyond.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 13:53
by kerenite
Miskinoch gullible fanos,

issu did what he did as a result of vendetta against his cousins the tigriyans and not out of love for you.

Mind you, as we speak tigray is under his full control and hence if you misbehave with him he may return humera and achede or whatever it is called back to tigray.

Never... Ever trust the dude miskinoch!!!

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 13:58
by euroland
experts wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 11:39
Zemeslo: why don't you just be honest and say it like a man. sing a poor failed misrably and looking to save it , so the easy way out is to re-join Ethiopia. Maferia what a failed state. Gura Bicha
Juntaw
Look where your thief TPLFiets ended up after amassing billions of dollars of a stolen money from poor Ethiopians? Yes, bullet to their head!!
At least, PIA is loved by his people and would never have to worry hiding in the cave or bullet to his head like your coward leaders.
We rather be poor but proud than "rich" by stealing from the poor and finally end up in the cave and bullet to the head.

Eritrea is still standing strong and Proud while your mini Kilil is on hell on earth, under the occupation of the Amara militia and your nightmare SHAEBIA.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 15:41
by nizzy
:lol: I swear the only people upset about Woyane's destruction are TPLFites and some bitter Eritreans who where hoping the TPLF would take out sheabia for them and install them as puppets in Asmara.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 15:56
by Lakeshore
Temt,

Did I say everything was good? no some good or some bad things are done in the past. Some were out of Grid and some were out of pure ignorance from both sides. If we go to the 1952 history then we should go a little bit further. First of all, we should understand Atse Haileselasie was not an elected representative of the people. He was an absolute monarch. So his faults can't be Ethiopian people, however, he went to a great length to appease the Eritrean elites and also the international community as their usual sabotage against Africans sided with him and dissolve the federation and bring unity again. What about before the Italian invasion was Eritrea an independent country with this name? No! was not. The main reason for the Eritrean's to went to war with Ethiopia is during 2 nd world war when Mussolini invaded Ethiopia and before he gets kicked out of Ethiopia, Mussolini agreed with Britain saying I will surrender to you rather than Ethiopians if Britain gave Italy a safe passage in response to taking every weaponry and properties owned by the Italian army and Italy asked the leag of nations now UN Eritrea to be administered by British caretake for the coming few years and made the only parliament.
It takes Britain 11 years to take their loots that include machinery, generators heavy weapons, bomber planes, and many many. The resentment from the local Eritrean also grows. When Haileselasie came to power again he fame also grows and he believed his return to power will not be completed if the Ethiopians in Eritrea also united and he becomes success full with his diplomatic and appeasement policy. The brits got whatever they want and were very happy to leave Asmara for more money from the king.

Some Eritreans who lost their power during the union got disgruntled started to accuse the king. why in the first place Menilke did not liberate us during the first Ethio-Italy war? That also has a different perspective but we have to stop at some point. Look at Berline and Bone they were two arch enemies and bone had no economical advantage to be united with the soviet era east. The peoples had big ideological differences and during integration, both sides suffer a lot but Berliners most dueto lack education and can't find the job in the new Germany. However, in a very short time, they become the superpower of Europe even they kick chronic Britain out of the European Union. Let's bury the hatchet and do the symbolically gave his excellency Issayas a resort and citzenship in ethiopia.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 15:57
by kerenite
nizzy wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:41
:lol: I swear the only people upset about Woyane's destruction are TPLFites and some bitter Eritreans who where hoping the TPLF would take out sheabia for them and install them as puppets in Asmara.
Weyanne leadership is gone with the wind. Hence, no eritrean sheds tears for them. But let's be kind to the sefi tigray pathetic people who have nothing to do with their ex-leadership.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 17:08
by Roha
To honour loyal friends, courage and true alliances, nations give each other different kinds of gifts.
This can be titles, name of streets, citizenship, prime land for embassy, arts, educational scholarships,
armaments, hospitals, railway lines ... honorary Phds
Nelson Mandela has received many of these including several citizenship, Mercedes limousine cars, street names ... from many countries.
Will Issaias care about mansions and personal money? Given his history, it is unlikely. He lives a very simple life and eats
ordinary food and wears simple cloth. The material life of his family and his ministers is not different from that of the upper middle income Eritreans in Asmara.
Like the old Habesha warriors, he prefers a rugged environment and a simple monastic life in the country side.
To make it easier to Ethiopian readers, in his way of life, Issaias is closer to the lives of the old Ethiopian and Eritrean warriors of the 19 century than Meles, Mengistu or Haileselassie were, except he does not go to war with a sword or the old Minishir rifle.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 17:12
by Sadacha Macca
Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet, unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 17:14
by tarik
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 09:06

His wisdom and experience saved many Ethiopian's life and makes the Agame demise to be faster than light speed. Also, his unwavering support against the ignorant Sudan invasion proves to be our real friend from the heart not like the twisted Agame heart. Therefore, he deserves everything that Ethiopia can give to her heroes. The Ethiopian government should give him a holiday mansion in any place he chooses in Ethiopia with honorable Ethiopian citizenship and protection. So that Ethiopia will be his second home from home.

President Issayas truly showed for Ethiopians and Ethiopia again and again. In the current Sudan aggression, so many Agames stand with the enemy Sudan. We have seen their post cheering for Sudan and even the former Ethiopian so-called Agame junta TPLF general Abebe and ugly Seye conspire against Ethiopia in collaboration with Sudan against Ethiopians who feed and shelter them. But president Issayas stand with us against all odds and mobilize his mechanized brigade to the Sudan border in support of us. who did that except only the Amhara militia in Ethiopia? The shameless Abdisa phony Galla militia has no interest in protecting Ethiopia because they see it as not a Galla region, they are consumed with ethnic politics and missed the big picture of protecting the nation.

Tigree Agame is born bandas and continued their treasonous path of anti-Ethiopianism. The Gumuze subhumans the same as Galla they just think of food to cannibalize. The only true ally we have is the Eritrean people so far and we need to show them our appreciation.
Bro, i know you r saying this out of love. But seeing this terrorist-tigray-tplf rat seyoum mesfin bullet in z head of agame siyum mesfin is a great gift 4 PIA!!!
:lol: :mrgreen:

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 17:23
by Temt
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:56
Temt,
...Atse Haileselasie was ... an absolute monarch. So his faults can't be Ethiopian people...
I did not fault the Ethiopian people for annexing Eritrea (read my comments again) However I did and still do fault Ethiopians for not speaking out when their governments were bombing Eritrea, destroying and burning to the ground wholesale villages with human and livestock in them. There was no excuse for them not to call a spade - a spade especially those in the diaspora who could have expressed their disdain (if they had any) by openly demonstrating against the heinous crimes of their government in any of the countries they were residing. No excuse, except mischief.
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:56
...however, he went to a great length to appease the Eritrean elites...
Hmm! I fail to see the connection between Ethiopian atrocities against Eritreans and "the appeasement of Eritrean elites" as you said? How does bombing the daylight of Eritrea appease any Eritrean elite or otherwise? You lost me there...
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:56
...the international community as their usual sabotage against Africans sided with him and dissolve the federation...
The International community, primarily the US, supported and encouraged his voracious appetite for acquiring access to the sea (read ports). But his criminal activity in Eritrea, including the illegal annexation, was done with his own volution, no matter how you like to spin it, bro.
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:56
...dissolve the federation and bring unity again...
Here we go again. How could you bring "unity again" where there was none? My friend stop hallucinations. The only "unity" that ever was between the two countries was from 1962 to 1991, again, when Haileselasie illegally annexed Eritrea by force. ገባህ ወይ የኔ ዘመድ፧
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:56
...What about before the Italian invasion was Eritrea an independent country with this name? No! was not...
True the current political boundary was created by the scramble for Africa and our country was named "Eritrea", which fits the Biblical name of the area. However, the general area of today's Eritrea was known as "ምድረ ባሕሪ" ruled by the "ባሕረ ነገስታት" who hailed from present-day Eritrea! It is also the land of the Punt if one wants to go further in the time frame.
Lakeshore wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 15:56
...The main reason for the Eritrean's to went to war with Ethiopia is during 2 nd world war when Mussolini invaded Ethiopia...
I have no clue what Mussolini's invasion of Abyssinia (not Ethiopia) has anything to do with why we, Eritreans, decided to go to war to liberate ourselves from Ethiopia under the Emperor! This is what President Trump calls "FAKE" news buddy.

Re: Abyi should give President Issayas a mansion in any place he chooses with honorable Ethiopian citizenship

Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 17:31
by Noble Amhara
Kkkkkk

Fake historian

Ras Derasso was not Gojame he was the servant of Gojame Ras Tekle haymanot Ras Derasso was known for making Oromo tribaldoms to submit to Gojam and to convert to Oriental Christianity. Same As Gobana who conquered Oromo clans into shewan Ethiopia empire

https://books.google.com/books?id=7pYpD ... sso&f=true
Sadacha Macca wrote:
20 Jan 2021, 17:12
Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet, unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.