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Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 05:44
by Somaliman
The Sudanese army announced that it has regained control over 80 per cent of Sudanese territory previously seized by Ethiopian militias, stressing that: "The confrontations were against members of the Ethiopian army, not militias, considering the use of large-scale and long-range weapons."

Lieutenant General Khaled Abdin Al-Shami, deputy chief of staff of the Sudanese army, confirmed in statements that the army had regained 80 per cent of borderlands and took control of a large number of villages inhabited by Ethiopian militias. Al-Shami added that the operations would not stop until all Sudanese lands are recovered.


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20201 ... -ethiopia/

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 06:10
by abel qael
kkkkkkkk demekech the qomaxamharay wedel qix fa'g'got is now regretting the war he declared on Tigray.
Ethiopian Foreign Minister Demeke Mekonnen accused Sudan of using the war in the Tigray region to advance towards Ethiopian territories.
'So what if sister Sudan uses Tigray's anaconda to brag with and to scare you with ? Ay demekech, debreporno asfendido yinefash endalnebere
zarie hulunm eresashiw, anchi ewnetim kahadit weyxoamharay nesh !

Amharay lost 2.5 million acres of extremely virgin, very productive, fertile farm land that also has huge mineral resources, including gold.
2.5 million acres of farmland is more than a million hectares of farmland, which is equal to the entire farmlands in Tigray, or 3 times the entire farm land in ar'tera. This is shockingly big loss, even for Ethiopia as a whole let alone for Amharu, trust me Amharu will eat each other ... yeqoxun awerd bila yebibtwan xalech honuna arefut, enezih gonderam, wesfatamoch; awey siyasxelu, kenezig gar endiet ne'w menor, ayxal ne'w abo!

Lucky Sudan took this vast land without firing a single bullet. Sudan's soldiers did it by just simply scaring the shi'yat out of the midget gonerams and by intimidating the finafintam Meshrefet.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 12:04
by Za-Ilmaknun
abel qael wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 06:10
kkkkkkkk demekech the qomaxamharay wedel qix fa'g'got is now regretting the war he declared on Tigray.
Ethiopian Foreign Minister Demeke Mekonnen accused Sudan of using the war in the Tigray region to advance towards Ethiopian territories.
'So what if sister Sudan uses Tigray's anaconda to brag with and to scare you with ? Ay demekech, debreporno asfendido yinefash endalnebere
zarie hulunm eresashiw, anchi ewnetim kahadit weyxoamharay nesh !

Amharay lost 2.5 million acres of extremely virgin, very productive, fertile farm land that also has huge mineral resources, including gold.
2.5 million acres of farmland is more than a million hectares of farmland, which is equal to the entire farmlands in Tigray, or 3 times the entire farm land in ar'tera. This is shockingly big loss, even for Ethiopia as a whole let alone for Amharu, trust me Amharu will eat each other ... yeqoxun awerd bila yebibtwan xalech honuna arefut, enezih gonderam, wesfatamoch; awey siyasxelu, kenezig gar endiet ne'w menor, ayxal ne'w abo!

Lucky Sudan took this vast land without firing a single bullet. Sudan's soldiers did it by just simply scaring the shi'yat out of the midget gonerams and by intimidating the finafintam Meshrefet.
Don't be so excited too soon... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Sudan is being toyed by Egypt and few crumbs from the Nega dynasty. I am sure you know deep down that they won't stay on the occupied lands for longer.

I am not even sure if there is going to be a country called Sudan in the next few months. They are immersed in problems of their own left and right let alone sustain keeping 90% of their military force at the border with Gondar. So, you are simply setting yourself up for another round of gut wrenching misery. Amhara alone is more than enough to take very good care of Sudan and its lebba friends.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Now get this to your TPLF thick skull: TPLF will never come back....and the dream of independent Tigrai ..yeah it will live on as a nightmare. WolQayit and Raya are now free... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 12:29
by kerenite
This news is less than an hour old. Link is below.

Sudan has officially announced that it has liberated all of the territories which were under occupation. Mission accomplished. Next step is to mark the boundries between the 2 governments as per the statement of the higher military official.

Read more,......

www.alquds.co.uk

Cheers!

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 13:54
by Cigar
I don't get this.
According to all of you, you are saying that the territories the Sudan took belongs legally to it to begin with. Right? So what is the problem then?
If you ask me it is better this way (if legally belongs to the Sudan), instead of none sense friction and hate which we saw about the legal Eritrean territories at the hands of woyane (it was decided by the court of law) for 2 decades. Such stupidity only exasperate the hate and mistrust between countries.
I don't have any clue if Ethiopia and the Sudan went to the court of law or even if Ethiopia disputed the Sudanese claims in the past.
But again, if the territories belong to the Sudan, and the Sudan takes over and it get demarcated, the Easter African countries will have a legal demarcated borders and they all can focus of working together to lift their citizens lives then after.
PIA & PMAA vision of working in economic integration would not be fruitful if some countries are squating on other countries territories.
What is bizarre is to see the filthy agames, admitting that the Sudan took over it's legal territories and at the same time making their own country Ethiopia as a loser.
A loser is like woyane who refused to get out of none of its land and get spanked and forcefully vacated.
In Ethiopia's case so far I didn't hear any body or even the ethio govt claiming foul or saying that the land belongs to Ethiopia.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 14:34
by kerenite
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 12:04
abel qael wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 06:10
kkkkkkkk demekech the qomaxamharay wedel qix fa'g'got is now regretting the war he declared on Tigray.
Ethiopian Foreign Minister Demeke Mekonnen accused Sudan of using the war in the Tigray region to advance towards Ethiopian territories.
'So what if sister Sudan uses Tigray's anaconda to brag with and to scare you with ? Ay demekech, debreporno asfendido yinefash endalnebere
zarie hulunm eresashiw, anchi ewnetim kahadit weyxoamharay nesh !

Amharay lost 2.5 million acres of extremely virgin, very productive, fertile farm land that also has huge mineral resources, including gold.
2.5 million acres of farmland is more than a million hectares of farmland, which is equal to the entire farmlands in Tigray, or 3 times the entire farm land in ar'tera. This is shockingly big loss, even for Ethiopia as a whole let alone for Amharu, trust me Amharu will eat each other ... yeqoxun awerd bila yebibtwan xalech honuna arefut, enezih gonderam, wesfatamoch; awey siyasxelu, kenezig gar endiet ne'w menor, ayxal ne'w abo!

Lucky Sudan took this vast land without firing a single bullet. Sudan's soldiers did it by just simply scaring the shi'yat out of the midget gonerams and by intimidating the finafintam Meshrefet.
Don't be so excited too soon... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Sudan is being toyed by Egypt and few crumbs from the Nega dynasty. I am sure you know deep down that they won't stay on the occupied lands for longer.

I am not even sure if there is going to be a country called Sudan in the next few months. They are immersed in problems of their own left and right let alone sustain keeping 90% of their military force at the border with Gondar. So, you are simply setting yourself up for another round of gut wrenching misery. Amhara alone is more than enough to take very good care of Sudan and its lebba friends.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Now get this to your TPLF thick skull: TPLF will never come back....and the dream of independent Tigrai ..yeah it will live on as a nightmare. WolQayit and Raya are now free... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The sudanese have never been united as it is the case now. All are for the return of their occupied territories as they call it and as it is officially announced by their foreign minister an hour ago that their mission is accomplished while they have taken over the remaining 20% of their territory as per the 1902 accord, hence the war is over for them.

P. S. I will be surprised if sudan hasn't started arming the weyannes. Many political analysts claim otherwise.

But how about sudan's neighbors? What do the analysts say? Well, they claim that its adversaries will fail this time to harm sudan by applying the beja and beni amr clans of east sudan card to destabilize it as it was the case before and that for a simple reason while the benefeciaries of those returned territories will be the bejas and the beni Amr farmers.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 14:55
by Za-Ilmaknun
kerenite wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 14:34
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 12:04
abel qael wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 06:10
kkkkkkkk demekech the qomaxamharay wedel qix fa'g'got is now regretting the war he declared on Tigray.
Ethiopian Foreign Minister Demeke Mekonnen accused Sudan of using the war in the Tigray region to advance towards Ethiopian territories.
'So what if sister Sudan uses Tigray's anaconda to brag with and to scare you with ? Ay demekech, debreporno asfendido yinefash endalnebere
zarie hulunm eresashiw, anchi ewnetim kahadit weyxoamharay nesh !

Amharay lost 2.5 million acres of extremely virgin, very productive, fertile farm land that also has huge mineral resources, including gold.
2.5 million acres of farmland is more than a million hectares of farmland, which is equal to the entire farmlands in Tigray, or 3 times the entire farm land in ar'tera. This is shockingly big loss, even for Ethiopia as a whole let alone for Amharu, trust me Amharu will eat each other ... yeqoxun awerd bila yebibtwan xalech honuna arefut, enezih gonderam, wesfatamoch; awey siyasxelu, kenezig gar endiet ne'w menor, ayxal ne'w abo!

Lucky Sudan took this vast land without firing a single bullet. Sudan's soldiers did it by just simply scaring the shi'yat out of the midget gonerams and by intimidating the finafintam Meshrefet.
Don't be so excited too soon... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Sudan is being toyed by Egypt and few crumbs from the Nega dynasty. I am sure you know deep down that they won't stay on the occupied lands for longer.

I am not even sure if there is going to be a country called Sudan in the next few months. They are immersed in problems of their own left and right let alone sustain keeping 90% of their military force at the border with Gondar. So, you are simply setting yourself up for another round of gut wrenching misery. Amhara alone is more than enough to take very good care of Sudan and its lebba friends.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Now get this to your TPLF thick skull: TPLF will never come back....and the dream of independent Tigrai ..yeah it will live on as a nightmare. WolQayit and Raya are now free... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The sudanese have never been united as it is the case now. All are for the return of their occupied territories as they call it and as it is officially announced by their foreign minister an hour ago that their mission is accomplished while they have taken over the remaining 20% of their territory as per the 1902 accord, hence the war is over for them.

P. S. I will be surprised if sudan hasn't started arming the weyannes. Many political analysts claim otherwise.

But how about sudan's neighbors? What do the analysts say? Well, they claim that its adversaries will fail this time to harm sudan by applying the beja and beni amr clans of east sudan card to destabilize it as it was the case before and that for a simple reason while the benefeciaries of those returned territories will be the bejas and the beni Amr farmers.
United or otherwise...No one can occupy Ethiopia's lands and dream about living in peace. You will hopefully be here when the reciprocity happens to support them in time of their need. Till then, cheer up and enjoy the occupation while it lasts. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 15:22
by Cigar
Zellamknun, are you saying the lands the Sudan is occupying doesn't belong to it?
I am asking this because majority of the agames even some genuine ethiopians are saying that the Sudan RECLAIMED what is its.
RECLAIM is a word which defines ownership.
Now, if the territories belong to Ethiopia, yes every body including the rule of law should support that Ethiopia takes its ownership and I hope it doesn't wait for decades like Eritrea to get it back.
Again, my question is who does the contested territories legally belong?

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 15:35
by Abere
Sudan , in fact is trying to occupy Ethiopian territory seizing the momentums of internal crisis as well as Egypt's worry about the progress of Abay Hydroelectric power dam. Ethiopia being a country surrounded by former colonized countries has been forced to share the headaches her colonized neighbors. This is an unfortunate historical fact, however, it does not mean Ethiopia has to subscribe the wills of the now independent or decolonized countries and lose her sovereign land. No inch of land will be given to Sudan; Sudan had better leave for she can't afford sustainable war and Ethiopia has unlimited possibilities of causing damage on Sudan and Egypt.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 15:46
by Za-Ilmaknun
Cigar wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 15:22
Zellamknun, are you saying the lands the Sudan is occupying doesn't belong to it?
I am asking this because majority of the agames even some genuine ethiopians are saying that the Sudan RECLAIMED what is its.
RECLAIM is a word which defines ownership.
Now, if the territories belong to Ethiopia, yes every body including the rule of law should support that Ethiopia takes its ownership and I hope it doesn't wait for decades like Eritrea to get it back.
Again, my question is who does the contested territories legally belong?
Tarik,

If the land belongs to Sudan, I would be standing with them to litigate the Ethiopian side to return it back. However, here is the problem: When Sudan was under British colony, the Brits went out and draw a line which is referred to as the Gwen Line unilaterally and imposed it on Ethiopia to accept as a binding legal demarcation. Ethiopia is a sovereign nation and refused to agree on that demarcation, which gave away large chunks of Ethiopian's land that was under the control of Ethiopia at the time including Quara and Metema to Sudan. That line is now the point of contention which the Sudanese are taking as an excuse and trying to invade us thinking that Ethiopia is at its weakest. :mrgreen:

"It was initially established between the United Kingdom, on behalf of the Anglo–Egyptian Condominium of Sudan, and independent Ethiopia in 1902. It was then unilaterally demarcated by British surveyors in 1903, which was never accepted by Ethiopia"
https://sovereignlimits.com/boundaries/ ... 0in%201902.
https://ethiopianreview.com/content/tag ... -gwen-line

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 15:57
by Abaymado
I don't get it, why now? Why is Sudan asking this question now? Are they telling us TPLF annexed sudan's land to Gondar years ago? Impossible!! We know weyane's hate toward Amhara.
So when did Ethiopia took their land? Sudan has very sizable of land, why are they creating problem?

No way, we will crush them!!


This is for Sudan and Egypt: they don't want to comply with Ethiopia's interest on the dam? No problem, they will be forced to buy one litre water per dollar.
No one on the earth can stop us using or judging on our resources!!!!!

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 16:03
by Abere
--- Why did Sudan invade Ethiopia before but now? Because Sudan was not sure if the land was theirs and they knew they can't face off Ethiopian army.

--- Why would Ethiopia force herself into the notes and dairies of Sudan's former colonial master? No, neither moral nor legal rationale require Ethiopia to technically be colonized in the 21st century by inheriting Sudan's colonial document - Sudan can keep it that for herself.

--- Does Sudan invasion and occupation of some of these lands confirm and validate ownership? No, it does not. Occupation does not legitimate ownership. Sudan can temporarily occupy and may be noisy about it but moving forward it will pay incalculable price - Sudan doesn't have neither the resource nor the drive to finish the marathon race against Ethiopia. I assure you Ethiopia will swiftly reclaim and will seal Sudan's defeat.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 17:08
by Cigar
Zalamnkun, lol. First of all I am the only CIGAR, no one else.
I don't know why you quoted me as tarik.
Now, you don't have to get on my a'ss for asking a simple question
I asked it because not only the filthy agames, but also some of the ethiopians did say that the Sudan is RECLAIMING its land.
Well, how do you define RECLAIM?
I don't truly know who owns the contested territories. I am for the country who legally own it.
If it is Ethiopian then the Sudan will pay dearly for taking advantage at this time from all the past times, to go for it through war rather than legal means.
I am an Eritrean as you might already know. So, war is disastrous for the parties.....we went through it, which vindicated us at the end, but caused us lots of miseries.
Don't make it sound like I am cheering for any one of you.
I am for rule of law to solve it.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 17:16
by Somaliman
At first sight, it seems Sudan is a filthy opportunist taking advantage of the fact that Ethiopia is currently involved in a conflict in Tigray!

I believe this is even an insult to the Ethiopian army to be defeated by the army of a country that has lately been barely functioning, as Sudan says that "The confrontations were against members of the Ethiopian army, not militias."!

On the other hand, if the Ethiopian government happens to be in opposition to the "lamentable" action of Sudan, then this, in addition to the protracted conflict in Tigray, call into question about the truth of the strength and capability of the Ethiopian army! It seems to me, the Ethiopian army is all about quantity and not quality. Needless to remind that Ethiopian army, which has always boasted about superiority militarily, was defeated with ease both by Somalia and Eritrea in the past.



Just a thought!

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 17:29
by Za-Ilmaknun
Cigar wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 17:08
Zalamnkun, lol. First of all I am the only CIGAR, no one else.
I don't know why you quoted me as tarik.
Now, you don't have to get on my a'ss for asking a simple question
I asked it because not only the filthy agames, but also some of the ethiopians did say that the Sudan is RECLAIMING its land.
Well, how do you define RECLAIM?
I don't truly know who owns the contested territories. I am for the country who legally own it.
If it is Ethiopian then the Sudan will pay dearly for taking advantage at this time from all the past times, to go for it through war rather than legal means.
I am an Eritrean as you might already know. So, war is disastrous for the parties.....we went through it, which vindicated us at the end, but caused us lots of miseries.
Don't make it sound like I am cheering for any one of you.
I am for rule of law to solve it.
Cigar,

Sorry for the confusion..:) I was only trying to present my take since you asked. I am not in no way trying to see your quest in the negative. I don't expect anyone to cheer for Ethiopia, for Ethiopians themselves are busy these days to dislocating their own country...if we all stand with the truth ..it shall free us all in the end.


Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 17:42
by Cigar
Zamalakun it is all good. Confusion i.e.
I just want the freaking regional countries to work for peace through legal means.
I know Eritrea and Ethiopia understand what war is all about and they are determined to pursue peaceful and legal means to solve any problem might arise.
So, come to think about it, the Sudan needs to be taught a lesson for the simple fact that it chose this time to reclaim whether it is its own land or trying to claim Ethio territory when it could have sat or go to the rule of law to solve it.
As we know Eritrea and Ethiopia signed a treaty which says attacking one of them is attacking both of them and thus Eritrea will side with Ethiopia if push comes to shove, and if we reach that stage the neighboring countries will learn working together as a region bests disastrous wars and hates and taking advantage of situations.
This was the time for the Sudan to show its good will to Ethiopia and I hope it stops its incursion and come to the table soon for its sake.

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 18:46
by Zmeselo
This is evidence, Egypt is behind this:


Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 19:29
by Aurorae Borealis
Guys,

This has a lot to do with geopolitics. It is the Dam, dammy :lol: :lol: Egypt and Sudan are trying to pressure Ethiopia to sign on the red dot. Fourteen years to be exact. The DAM can be filled in fourteen years. No less. If there is any draught, Water will be taken out of the Dam. That is what Egypt and Sudan are asking. If not, trouble is brewing. They are testing Abbiy. Will he relent, it is a hot question. That time will tell. It is shaping like the double E and S team (Ethiopia-Eritrea-Somalia) VS. Kenya-Sudan-Djiboit-Somali Land, and the referee African style is off course, Egypt :lol: :lol: . I forgot the junta. Hmmm...

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 19:37
by Somaliman
Could anyone tell us about the position/reaction of the Ethiopian government in relation to this!

Re: Sudan army: 'We regained control over 80% of our borderlands with Ethiopia'

Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 20:19
by Somaliman
Aurorae Borealis wrote:
31 Dec 2020, 19:29
Guys,

This has a lot to do with geopolitics. It is the Dam, dammy :lol: :lol: Egypt and Sudan are trying to pressure Ethiopia to sign on the red dot. Fourteen years to be exact. The DAM can be filled in fourteen years. No less. If there is any draught, Water will be taken out of the Dam. That is what Egypt and Sudan are asking. If not, trouble is brewing. They are testing Abbiy. Will he relent, it is a hot question. That time will tell. It is shaping like the double E and S team (Ethiopia-Eritrea-Somalia) VS. Kenya-Sudan-Djiboit-Somali Land, and the referee African style is off course, Egypt :lol: :lol: . I forgot the junta. Hmmm...



All it takes, in this and similar regard, is that Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia become stable and strong both politically and economically and we would easily become one of the masters of this planet - leave alone sorting out Egypt and Sudan playing cat and mouse with Ethiopia.