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What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by EPRDF » 26 Dec 2020, 12:59

Secede the Ummaatta Oromo of Arsie, Bale and Haraghe from the rest of fake Kilil Oromia.

Yes, Hararghe, Bale and Arsi Oromos should break themselves up from great Oromia and start immediately considering how to form their own Autonomous region/Kilil which will be completely free from Habesha and Gobena political hegemony of west, center & north.

Hararghe, Arsi and Bale Oromos got nothing that links them from distant Wolega, Shoa and Wollo Oromo besides a few shared affan Oromo vocabulary. And language is not and cannot be everything.
These three regions better quit dancing for Oromia tune which was the creation of Woyane only twenty-seven years ago.

Arsi, Bale, and Hararghe Oromos can form their own state and maintain at the same time cultural connection with the rest of distant Oromos if that to be necessary, they have nothing to lose.

Hararghe, Bale and Arsi Oromos historically and culturally as well as in the coherence of Psychological make up they are closely related to Somalis, Aderes and Afars in their vicinity than the distant Wolega and Selale hence they better stop fooling themselves in the concept of "Orommumma" the false doctrine of ONEG.

They need to come back to their sense to join hand with Somali, Afar and Aderes to create a peaceful and economically vibrant region that benefits all before it is too late coz the coming ain't shows something good.

BTW, Bale was part of Hararghe anyway before emperor Haileselasie divided it into Haraghe and Bale as separate provinces in the 1950s. All that needs now is to add the Worebela shifta Arsi into this domain.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Noble Amhara » 26 Dec 2020, 13:32

good idea

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Post by Dawi » 26 Dec 2020, 13:43

EPRDF wrote:
26 Dec 2020, 12:59
Secede the Ummaatta Oromo of Arsie, Bale and Haraghe from the rest of fake Kilil Oromia.

Yes, Hararghe, Bale and Arsi Oromos should break themselves up from great Oromia and start immediately considering how to form their own Autonomous region/Kilil which will be completely free from Habesha and Gobena political hegemony of west, center & north.

Hararghe, Arsi and Bale Oromos got nothing that links them from distant Wolega, Shoa and Wollo Oromo besides a few shared affan Oromo vocabulary. And language is not and cannot be everything.
These three regions better quit dancing for Oromia tune which was the creation of Woyane only twenty-seven years ago.

Arsi, Bale, and Hararghe Oromos can form their own state and maintain at the same time cultural connection with the rest of distant Oromos if that to be necessary, they have nothing to lose.

Hararghe, Bale and Arsi Oromos historically and culturally as well as in the coherence of Psychological make up they are closely related to Somalis, Aderes and Afars in their vicinity than the distant Wolega and Selale hence they better stop fooling themselves in the concept of "Orommumma" the false doctrine of ONEG.

They need to come back to their sense to join hand with Somali, Afar and Aderes to create a peaceful and economically vibrant region that benefits all before it is too late coz the coming ain't shows something good.

BTW, Bale was part of Hararghe anyway before emperor Haileselasie divided it into Haraghe and Bale as separate provinces in the 1950s. All that needs now is to add the Worebela shifta Arsi into this domain.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by EPRDF » 27 Dec 2020, 19:10

Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Dec 2020, 13:32
good idea

Ato Noble,

It might be a good idea for you, but it is a bad idea for most Oromo brothers and sisters and to convince them is where the challenge is.

When the state of Oromia established in 1991 to this day Oromo politicians could have done a lot in forging a strong state of Oromia that respects the democratic and human rights of all citizens living inside Oromia by giving good governance even by African standard, but they failed there miserably and inflicted unrepaired damage on Oromo politics to sustain under the banner of the great Orommuma. They blew the golden opportunity offered by Woyane.

The land of Oromia is vast with a huge population, and to put the estimated thirty plus Oromos in a single basket it now seems difficult to go any further at this point. Arsi, Bale and Hararghe Oromos if they seek for statehood they will be well off on their own. So do the rest of the regions of Oromia.

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Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 14:44

Hassen Ali of the town of chiiroo (baptized name Asebe Teferi) Hararghe, eastern Oromia, was one of the strongest, Oromo nationalist president Oromia has ever had 1991-95/96, but deposed by the conspiracy none other than western Oromos i.e Almaza Meko, Negaso Gidada, Kuma Demeksa and likes in behind.

Eastern Oromos shouldn't have lived tied themselves with Orommuma rhetoric thus far, they were supposed to grasp a lesson out of Hassen Ali's case, it was an eye-opener experience.

Bale, Arsi and Hararghe Oromos must consolidate their unity amongst themselves and look for their own statehood before it is too late. Some might think I'm trying to divide Oromos but I'm not. Ultimately, this alternative idea will be inevitable.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 29 Dec 2020, 16:24

EPRDF wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 14:44
Hassen Ali of the town of chiiroo (baptized name Asebe Teferi) Hararghe, eastern Oromia, was one of the strongest, Oromo nationalist president Oromia has ever had 1991-95/96, but deposed by the conspiracy none other than western Oromos i.e Almaza Meko, Negaso Gidada, Kuma Demeksa and likes in behind.

Eastern Oromos shouldn't have lived tied themselves with Orommuma rhetoric thus far, they were supposed to grasp a lesson out of Hassen Ali's case, it was an eye-opener experience.

Bale, Arsi and Hararghe Oromos must consolidate their unity amongst themselves and look for their own statehood before it is too late. Some might think I'm trying to divide Oromos but I'm not. Ultimately, this alternative idea will be inevitable.
It ain't a bad idea coming from EPRDF.. :mrgreen: You are one step closer to how the before era of TPLF Ethiopia was structured. You are now seeing how devolving authority closer to the people is a way to meaningful administration. Prof Donald Levin once said...the Amharas in Shoa are more closer to the Oromos in Selale than the Gonderies. :roll: :mrgreen:

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by DefendTheTruth » 29 Dec 2020, 16:33

Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Dec 2020, 13:32
good idea
Perhaps "good idea" but bad idea here, and here is why.

Oromo politicians, in most cases, consider the idea a suicidal mission. The idea behind the Oromumma Enterprise is, for the most case, about negotiating easily the power of PM at the helm (they claim they are the majority and should be given the top position as such), if Oromo splits up into two then that privilege will disappear immediately, unless there will be two PMs in the country at the same time.

Oromo Liberation Front said, through its founding leaders, that the idea of creating a liberation front was not to liberate Oromia from Ethiopia but to use it as a negotiation chip for power in Ethiopia itself.

You might find it good, but will never happen.

The easiest way to go about is to make Afan Oromo an official language of the country (then there will be no more any "Finciila Diddaa Gabrummaa " in the country) and dissolve all so called kilils and tell the "Noble Amhara" to put off their hands from areas where the Oromos were the true owners of the land, like Finfinne, and stop the land-grabbing enterprise in the future.

Oromo can't keep getting pushed out from all urban areas because some people come in and start using Amharic in those centers for ever. It has to stop somewhere, I think.

These two are the key points to iron out and resolve the current political quagmire in the country, if I may guess.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 16:43

Ddt

Oromo has no land in Shewa other then free migration sites for example in 1692 Italian Explorer went to Entoto and recorded it as a Amhara Province known as Barara during 17th century Gallas migrated and renamed Barara as Gulele Entoto also Why do Gallas want to dominate Kemise so much it’s a Amhara town you guys are trying to ethnically cleansed Amharas from Eastern Wolo like you did across Shewa the last 300 years?

Gallas are telling us wollo and Shewa Amharas (28 Million of us) to leave our land kkkkk don’t you know north Shewa zone in fake oromi is 52% Amhara also south west Shewa zone is gurage oromonization of Shewa must be addressed

Your Oromo (Borana) tribe needs to stop expanding on land that’s not yours historically or culturally. When did anyone tell Oromos to leave anything that never happened but you can keep fantasying when we all know OLF Adanach Abebe Leba is the mayor for being a Arsi Oromo! Not even tulama can govern Addis or Fin Fin shame on you

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by DefendTheTruth » 29 Dec 2020, 17:00

Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:43
Ddt

I hearby eradicate the fake Noble something, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh tifa, yetifah.


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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 17:08

QQQKKK 8) :mrgreen: :lol:




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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by banebris2013 » 29 Dec 2020, 17:15

Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:43
Ddt

Oromo has no land in Shewa other then free migration sites for example in 1692 Italian Explorer went to Entoto and recorded it as a Amhara Province known as Barara during 17th century Gallas migrated and renamed Barara as Gulele Entoto also Why do Gallas want to dominate Kemise so much it’s a Amhara town you guys are trying to ethnically cleansed Amharas from Eastern Wolo

Gallas are telling us wollo and Shewa Amharas (28 Million of us) to leave our land kkkkk don’t you know north Shewa zone in fake oromi is 52% Amhara also south west Shewa zone is gurage oromonization of Shewa must be addressed
You lied 3000 years and you still do. When is that you people reconcile with truth? Your forefathers have been telling us the amhara has 3000 years history, without having evidence even, for 3 let alone 3000.
Yes you are good at claiming what was done by others as if it was done by you people. For example, recently amharas were counting anything dead as amhara to get the death number as high as possible, to justify their claim of genocide. They even counted a goat hit by passing car as amhara. So you can lie as low as that.
So the first thing you and amhara elites should do is to reconcile with truth and learn how to differentiate between truth and lie. Then we can talk about your barara and even if there are people called amhara.
You are like "Hitsan lij be sew neger yaleksal". You never own anything. Everything you people claim is what others did or own.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 17:23

Learn Afaan Oromo Lesson by Mr Oromunna? :mrgreen: :lol:



:mrgreen: :lol:

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Sadacha Macca » 29 Dec 2020, 17:32

Oromia and Oromo will never be divided. But, you're free to dream.
Abiy belongs to the same clan in wallagga yet we all know his army is committing atrocities there. It's nit about clan or region but about who is his supporters and who isn't. Regardless of where they are in oromia or Ethiopia.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Abere » 29 Dec 2020, 17:41

The Big question is not about splitting. It is rather is there a region actually called "Oromiya". Dividing a none-existent hypothetical pie is the Amharic equivalent of ድሃ በህልሙ ቅቤ ባይ በላ ይሞት ነበር። The best proof to this is none other than the talk about it. If Oromiya were a reality, if there were facts knitting its existence, no one would be even think and talk of it. This however asserts the inviolable natural presence of entities independent provinces of one Nation called Ethiopia. This Oromiya stuff is the creation of sick mentalities - victims of TPLF fabrications, Burqaw Zimitta.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by kibramlak » 29 Dec 2020, 17:42

ኢትዮጵያ ከተፈጠረች 3 አመት ሆናት እኮ :lol: :lol: :lol:
አይፈረድባችሁም፣፣ የናንተ ሊቅ እኮ ደናቁርቱ ዳውድ ኢብሳ ነው፣፣ የዚህ ደናቁርት ምልምሎች ቂልነታችሁ ሳያንስ ይኸው እኛንም ታደርቁናላችሁ፣፣

አሁን ደግሞ አክሱም የኦሮሞ ነው እያላችሁ ነው lol

ነገስ ?? ኤርትራ የኦሮሞ ነው ......


banebris2013 wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:15
Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:43
Ddt

Oromo has no land in Shewa other then free migration sites for example in 1692 Italian Explorer went to Entoto and recorded it as a Amhara Province known as Barara during 17th century Gallas migrated and renamed Barara as Gulele Entoto also Why do Gallas want to dominate Kemise so much it’s a Amhara town you guys are trying to ethnically cleansed Amharas from Eastern Wolo

Gallas are telling us wollo and Shewa Amharas (28 Million of us) to leave our land kkkkk don’t you know north Shewa zone in fake oromi is 52% Amhara also south west Shewa zone is gurage oromonization of Shewa must be addressed
You lied 3000 years and you still do. When is that you people reconcile with truth? Your forefathers have been telling us the amhara has 3000 years history, without having evidence even, for 3 let alone 3000.
Yes you are good at claiming what was done by others as if it was done by you people. For example, recently amharas were counting anything dead as amhara to get the death number as high as possible, to justify their claim of genocide. They even counted a goat hit by passing car as amhara. So you can lie as low as that.
So the first thing you and amhara elites should do is to reconcile with truth and learn how to differentiate between truth and lie. Then we can talk about your barara and even if there are people called amhara.
You are like "Hitsan lij be sew neger yaleksal". You never own anything. Everything you people claim is what others did or own.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by banebris2013 » 29 Dec 2020, 19:07

kibramlak wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:42
ኢትዮጵያ ከተፈጠረች 3 አመት ሆናት እኮ :lol: :lol: :lol:
አይፈረድባችሁም፣፣ የናንተ ሊቅ እኮ ደናቁርቱ ዳውድ ኢብሳ ነው፣፣ የዚህ ደናቁርት ምልምሎች ቂልነታችሁ ሳያንስ ይኸው እኛንም ታደርቁናላችሁ፣፣

አሁን ደግሞ አክሱም የኦሮሞ ነው እያላችሁ ነው lol

ነገስ ?? ኤርትራ የኦሮሞ ነው ......


banebris2013 wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:15
Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:43
Ddt

Oromo has no land in Shewa other then free migration sites for example in 1692 Italian Explorer went to Entoto and recorded it as a Amhara Province known as Barara during 17th century Gallas migrated and renamed Barara as Gulele Entoto also Why do Gallas want to dominate Kemise so much it’s a Amhara town you guys are trying to ethnically cleansed Amharas from Eastern Wolo

Gallas are telling us wollo and Shewa Amharas (28 Million of us) to leave our land kkkkk don’t you know north Shewa zone in fake oromi is 52% Amhara also south west Shewa zone is gurage oromonization of Shewa must be addressed
You lied 3000 years and you still do. When is that you people reconcile with truth? Your forefathers have been telling us the amhara has 3000 years history, without having evidence even, for 3 let alone 3000.
Yes you are good at claiming what was done by others as if it was done by you people. For example, recently amharas were counting anything dead as amhara to get the death number as high as possible, to justify their claim of genocide. They even counted a goat hit by passing car as amhara. So you can lie as low as that.
So the first thing you and amhara elites should do is to reconcile with truth and learn how to differentiate between truth and lie. Then we can talk about your barara and even if there are people called amhara.
You are like "Hitsan lij be sew neger yaleksal". You never own anything. Everything you people claim is what others did or own.
My friend do you know the difference between three and 3000? ok we lied 3 years, 50 years, 150 years etc. You people lied for over 3000 years and you still lie. Your fano followed EDF and took photo and claimed they liberated the army from TPLF. At least we are what we claim and can justify. You people can not for sure refute the talk that there is no such a thing amhara. Ye woshet kimrachehu menad sijemer, duad wushetam, abiy wushetam, jewar woshetam etc. When you reconcile with facts and truth, get back to me so that we can have honest discussion about anything. Until you stop claiming what you are not and owning what you never had, you will never be taken seriously. This is only for "bishishik"
Take it easy. Happy new year and a merry Ethiopian Christmas for you. After all we are all humans and temporary.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 19:19

Ebola2013

go fack your abagada in wolega go lost b’tch EDF came to the battle after 3 weeks you fascist Kenyan The coward Gala EDF ran to Eritrea naked coward Gallas couldn’t stand a battle with TPLF the EDF was fed and aided and rescued by Amhara get that through your thick galalu skull
banebris2013 wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 19:07
kibramlak wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:42
ኢትዮጵያ ከተፈጠረች 3 አመት ሆናት እኮ :lol: :lol: :lol:
አይፈረድባችሁም፣፣ የናንተ ሊቅ እኮ ደናቁርቱ ዳውድ ኢብሳ ነው፣፣ የዚህ ደናቁርት ምልምሎች ቂልነታችሁ ሳያንስ ይኸው እኛንም ታደርቁናላችሁ፣፣

አሁን ደግሞ አክሱም የኦሮሞ ነው እያላችሁ ነው lol

ነገስ ?? ኤርትራ የኦሮሞ ነው ......


banebris2013 wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:15
Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:43
Ddt

Oromo has no land in Shewa other then free migration sites for example in 1692 Italian Explorer went to Entoto and recorded it as a Amhara Province known as Barara during 17th century Gallas migrated and renamed Barara as Gulele Entoto also Why do Gallas want to dominate Kemise so much it’s a Amhara town you guys are trying to ethnically cleansed Amharas from Eastern Wolo

Gallas are telling us wollo and Shewa Amharas (28 Million of us) to leave our land kkkkk don’t you know north Shewa zone in fake oromi is 52% Amhara also south west Shewa zone is gurage oromonization of Shewa must be addressed
You lied 3000 years and you still do. When is that you people reconcile with truth? Your forefathers have been telling us the amhara has 3000 years history, without having evidence even, for 3 let alone 3000.
Yes you are good at claiming what was done by others as if it was done by you people. For example, recently amharas were counting anything dead as amhara to get the death number as high as possible, to justify their claim of genocide. They even counted a goat hit by passing car as amhara. So you can lie as low as that.
So the first thing you and amhara elites should do is to reconcile with truth and learn how to differentiate between truth and lie. Then we can talk about your barara and even if there are people called amhara.
You are like "Hitsan lij be sew neger yaleksal". You never own anything. Everything you people claim is what others did or own.
My friend do you know the difference between three and 3000? ok we lied 3 years, 50 years, 150 years etc. You people lied for over 3000 years and you still lie. Your fano followed EDF and took photo and claimed they liberated the army from TPLF. At least we are what we claim and can justify. You people can not for sure refute the talk that there is no such a thing amhara. Ye woshet kimrachehu menad sijemer, duad wushetam, abiy wushetam, jewar woshetam etc. When you reconcile with facts and truth, get back to me so that we can have honest discussion about anything. Until you stop claiming what you are not and owning what you never had, you will never be taken seriously. This is only for "bishishik"
Take it easy. Happy new year and a merry Ethiopian Christmas for you. After all we are all humans and temporary.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by Wedi » 29 Dec 2020, 20:11

Local identity is more important and peaceful for co-existence than ethnic identity. The best way for Ethiopia to move forward and to be prosperous is to divide the country based on local identity than this backward ethnic identity.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 22:48

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:24
It ain't a bad idea coming from EPRDF.. :mrgreen: You are one step closer to how the before era of TPLF Ethiopia was structured. You are now seeing how devolving authority closer to the people is a way to meaningful administration. Prof Donald Levin once said...the Amharas in Shoa are more closer to the Oromos in Selale than the Gonderies. :roll: :mrgreen:
Wendime za-Ilmaknun,

You must be a rookie forum member in here. I have been advocating this notion for very long time but no one ever to listen. Look at the posting date of this thread of mine and find out how many years passed by since.
Now be my guest.viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128765#p705712
DefendTheTruth wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 16:33

Oromo politicians, in most cases, consider the idea a suicidal mission. The idea behind the Oromumma Enterprise is, for the most case, about negotiating easily the power of PM at the helm (they claim they are the majority and should be given the top position as such), if Oromo splits up into two then that privilege will disappear immediately, unless there will be two PMs in the country at the same time.

Oromo Liberation Front said, through its founding leaders, that the idea of creating a liberation front was not to liberate Oromia from Ethiopia but to use it as a negotiation chip for power in Ethiopia itself.

The easiest way to go about is to make Afan Oromo an official language of the country (then there will be no more any "Finciila Diddaa Gabrummaa " in the country) and dissolve all so called kilils and tell the "Noble Amhara" to put off their hands from areas where the Oromos were the true owners of the land, like Finfinne, and stop the land-grabbing enterprise in the future.
Making affan Oromo official language is a must thing next to affan Amara. Not only that but it is imperative to make Oromigna a compulsory subject in school curriculum as well just like that of Amharic. That will help majority of Ethiopians landing in equal footing.

You know Bale, Arsi and Hararghe non Oromo people they not only speak Oromiffa but they also writing Poem in Quppeh. Somali, Hadere, Argoba and Afars are fluent affan Oromo speakers already for generations now. No need to worry about that.

Making three or four Oromo regions won't harm Oromo interest, In all Oromo regions Oromos will still control the political power and the resource regardless and still they will have the lion share of dominance at the federal level as long as the large number of Oromo population is on the ground.
Sadacha Macca wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:32
Oromia and Oromo will never be divided. But, you're free to dream.
Abiy belongs to the same clan in wallagga yet we all know his army is committing atrocities there. It's nit about clan or region but about who is his supporters and who isn't. Regardless of where they are in oromia or Ethiopia.
Obbo macca,
I told this a long time ago and you are one of those never listened at the time. Time is now approaching in the speed of light. I see you still defiant that is no good.
yaballo wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 19:55
EPRDF: Secede the Ummaatta Oromo of Arsie, Bale and Haraghe from the rest of fake Kilil Oromia.

I agree! .. Add the Borana & Guji Oromos to the list of eastern Oromos who have little or nothing in common with GOOBANA OROMOS found west of the Great Rift Valley. Even Wollo & Raayya Oromos have far more in common with eastern Oromos than with those habashanised GOOBANA SCUMS! .. OMG - I HATE THEM!!!
Obbo Yaballo,

I thought Borana is inside Bale. If I'm wrong excuse my ignorance. No Borana and Gari left behind hell no thinking of eastern Oromia without these gorgeous people.

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Re: What is coming signaling no good, eastern Oromos be advised and..

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 30 Dec 2020, 00:39

Geri are pure proud Somalis and most Gabra are now officially Somalis, Abbush zallaqaa or whatever his name is and his ugly buddy are dumbasses.

Guys, don't believe a word that comes out of yaballo's mouth, he is mentally unstable liar.
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