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Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 15:36
by Abaymado
There is one controversial video released regarding Amhara which aired probably half century ago. And some people are making noise using his personal views.
https://youtu.be/rmpyf7aAQWs
I understand from his interview:
- There was even a name called "Amhara' at that time unlike some people claiming that Amhara didn't exist
- He said Amhara is superior
- Amahra is immigrated from Yemen or Arab countries
- Amhara is not negro or Amhara is Semitic's race
- He believes that he is black due to exposure to the sun
This is just his personal views,and it could not reflect the mass, nor did reflect Amhara's leaders feelings.
I agree with this guy in some ways, Amhara is superior. what is wrong with that ? Every nation is telling us this, England has been telling us about its superiority
I agree also with his stating- we are black.
But I totally disagree with his conception of Amahra's origin. Amhara is not immigrated from nowhere. Amhara is an African or simply, Amhara is negro.
If anybody ask me about my feelings about myself. I will say I am black and fully African. Full stop.
But the matter of fact Christianity and Islam brought wrong perception to us. For example angles or even god have complexion of white skin color. Even, if you can see the pictures of saint Micheal, the saint or the good deeds doer's characterized with white skin color and the defeated and wrong doer's is shown with black skin color. This is very wrong. Where did they get that notion? This is bulshiiit. This and similar unjust descriptions are just still implanted into our memories. We have long journey to reverse this.
To summarize: this is my personal view and some Ethiopians have different views, that is their business.
Africans' people are our brothers, their pain is my pain.
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 15:49
by AbebeB
አማራ ነን የምትሉ ካላችሁ፣ ለክህደት ብዙ በር አላችሁ፡፡ ግን ቪድዮውን እያያችሁ ይሻላችኃል፡፡
አይነጋ መስሎሽ ቤት ውስጥ አርተሸ ዛሬ ሸተተሸ ወይስ ሽቶዬ ነው እያልሽ ተቀብተሸ ትዘኒጭያለሽ? You can choose your destination but it is consequential: your departure or asking official apology of nations and agree to imperatives.
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 16:20
by Abere
What do other Africans say about Ethiopians? Has there been any Ethiopian that experienced discrimination from Black Africans or citizen of Sub-Sharan African countries, because of his/her skin color complexion?
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 17:01
by Za-Ilmaknun
Once up on a time Meles Zenawi himself said, his ancestral lines are from Yemen. Most Tigreans indeed subscribed to that label and still telling us in this forum they measure the standard of humanity by the kinds of ones nose. Those who claim that they are oromo, tried so hard to tell us that there are no people who are called amhara on this planet. Suddenly they seem to have found them now.
Even to this day, there are people of Ethiopian heritage who live in AMerica and choose themselves to be counted as none-negro...we know who most of those folks are, though. In one program long time ago I did watch a televised debate about who the white man considers white.They were saying all those who are semitic origin are considered white. The moderator suggested that Ethiopians are semitic but still with black skin...
Now 50 years ago somebody said something. If you push a little back further in time, you would certainly find the notion that all human beings came from the same origin...darwinian or religious.
The end game is ..unless identity politics is done away with, there will be no going forward. The defeated camp is now on a smear campaign
we understand.
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 17:09
by Abere
Well, Ethiopians are negro although we are Black Africans. This misnomer has to be clear. The White salve owners used such derogatory words to dehumanize their inhumanely captive fellow Africans from regions along the Niger river. Ethiopia is a very culturally and ethnographically diverse society. It is a melting pot of historically many origins. Even the Bible says, neither an Ethiopian nor a leopard changes its skin color.
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 17:18
by Abe Abraham
No need for speculations. Today there is DNA evidence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18526428
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By analysing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba."
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 17:28
by Abere
CORRECTIONS FOR THE TYPOS
Well, Ethiopians are not negro although we are Black Africans. This misnomer has to be clear. The White salve owners used such derogatory words to dehumanize their inhumanely captive fellow Africans from regions along the Niger river. Ethiopia is very culturally and ethnographically diverse society. It is a melting pot of historically many origins. Even the Bible says, neither an Ethiopian nor a leopard changes its skin color.
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 17:56
by Abaymado
Abe Abraham wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 17:18
No need for speculations. Today there is DNA evidence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18526428
"
By analysing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba."
Wrong! we don't know about the procedure they followed to study Ethiopians' DNA. Some Ethiopian have more blood from Arabian or Middle East countries which is probably recent phenomenon. For example if one lady has Middle east blood, and assuming her father is from Middle east and her mother is from local; for sure this lady consider herself Ethiopian.
What could happen if the sample was taken from this lady?
For sure the result could direct us to Middle east. This is the situation what we have now. This tell us that this is a recent phenomenon. it doesn't give any information about Ethiopian's DNA of hundred years or more, but it will just give us a 20-100 years. Nowadays since there is high migration and infiltration due to modern transportation system, is doesn't surprise us if some of Ethiopian have middle east DNA. But it is recent phenomenon.That means the DNA injected into Ethiopian is recent.
In general, we don't know how the samples were collected. We don't know how many people sampled. We don't know from which ethnics the samples were taken. Generally speaking everything is done to suit their interest.
Similarly IQ's test also conducted in similar manner. That is why it is difficult to accept the IQ's result of Africans. Comprehensive research should be done to have better understandings.
Re: Is Amhara superior? Is Amhara immigrated from Yemen? Is Amhara not African/Negrro?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 18:18
by Abe Abraham
Abaymado wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 17:56
Abe Abraham wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 17:18
No need for speculations. Today there is DNA evidence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18526428
"
By analysing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba."
Wrong! we don't know about the procedure they followed to study Ethiopians' DNA. Some Ethiopian have more blood from Arabian or Middle East countries which is probably recent phenomenon. For example if one lady has Middle east blood, and assuming her father is from Middle east and her mother is from local; for sure this lady consider herself Ethiopian.
What could happen if the sample was taken from this lady?
For sure the result could direct us to Middle east. This is the situation what we have now. This tell us that this is a recent phenomenon. it doesn't give any information about Ethiopian's DNA of hundred years or more, but it will just give us a 20-100 years. Nowadays since there is high migration and infiltration due to modern transportation system, is doesn't surprise us if some of Ethiopian have middle east DNA. But it is recent phenomenon.That means the DNA injected into Ethiopian is recent.
In general, we don't know how the samples were collected. We don't know how many people sampled. We don't know from which ethnics the samples were taken. Generally speaking everything is done to suit their interest.
Similarly IQ's test also conducted in similar manner. That is why it is difficult to accept the IQ's result of Africans. Comprehensive research should be done to have better understandings.
Are you Amhara ?