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ይአኽለና ይአኽለና ዝሐለፈ Did Haile predict back in the 80's, the current miserable life in Eritrea ?

Now, Yemane speaks from the grave

Aurorae wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2020, 09:41

ይአኽለና ይአኽለና ዝሐለፈ Did Haile predict back in the 80's, the current miserable life in Eritrea ?

Aytehazeley ane Mekelle tewelide Mekelle zeabeku eye gena Haile Gebru Mes Zereay Deres Band 1969 Asseb Metisom kederef semieyo(rieyo)aleku wala abeu ewn eti znebere nai hezbi akadadena zegerem eyu neiru.I like him very much,honest.

Two great artists.

The Agame Aurorae's miserable life in Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

Yes, the Ugum thinks he could get out of such misery by pretending what he is not LOL! ኣየ ናይ ዓጋመ ነገር!

እኔ እኮ የሚገርመኝ የእነ ስዩምመስፍን .. ስብሃትነጋ.. አቦይ ጸሃዬ... ወዘተ ልጆች በየ አውሮፖ እና ስሜን አሜሪካ ሲንደላቀቁ ... የመከረኛ አጋሜ ልጆች ልጆቻቸው በረሃብ... በፆታ በመደፈር... በቀጥቀጥ ... በመገደል.. በረሃብ በመማቀቅ እንደ ዝንብ ሲሞቱ.. አገር የቀሩት ወንድም እህት እናት አባት ደግሞ እዚህ ደረጃ ያደረሱኣቸውን የቀን ጂቦችን አቅፈው እየመገቡ .. እንደ ሰንጋ በሬ እያሰቡ ይገኛሉ..
እነዚህየቀንጂቦች በለስ ቢቀናቸው (አይሆንም እንጂ) ጥለዋቸው ወደ ናፈቋት አዲስ አበባ (አደይቱ) ንደሚፈረጥጡ ሳይታለም የተፈታ ነው:: 30 አመት ሙሉ ስልጣን ላይ ሁሉም በጃቸው እያለ የትግራይ ህዝብ ትግል ጥያቄ ያልመለሱ .. አሁን ሁሉም ከጃቸው አምልጦ ላይመለስ ለሄደው ስልጣን ንዴት ነው የትግራይን ህዝብ መልስ የሚሰጡት? ደደብ ካልሆንክ በስተቀር መልሱ ግልጽና አንድ ብቻ ነው እሱም ፈጽሞ የማይቻል .. የማሆን ... ህልም ነው:: አለቀ ደቀቀ !! አሁን መሆን ያለበት እና ያየሰፊው የትግራይ ህዝብ ብቸኛው ና ብሩህ መጻኢ ሊሆን የሚችለው የቀን ጂቦችን ..ሌቦችን አስወግደው ከሰፊው የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ጋር በጋራ ብሰላም መኖር ብቻ ነው:: ይአኔ ብቻ ነው ማደግ ሰርቶ መበልፀግ (ሰርቆ አላልኩም) የሚቻለው:: አብይ ጥሩ ስው ይመስላል ብጣምም የታገሳችሁ ይመስላል የሰጣችሁን እድል ተጠቀሙበት::

ለዚህ ነው መሃይም አገር አይገነባም... IQ ደግሞ matter most የምንለው:: የትግራይ ህዝብ ( በጂምላ) ደንቆሮ ነው:: አራት ነጥብ

ጀሮ ያለው አጋሜ ይስማ::

ተፈፀመ

Amhara di-ck starved Fyameta, the Addis prostitute amiche, you are not any different than low life agame who used to post the suffering of Eritreans in the desert For your info, Haile and Yemane are Eritrean heroes, and they are right on the spot.

Low class Fyameta in her native Addis back in the days.

Fiyameta is on the left. Her sister Alemitu is on the right.

Fyameta የ ኣጋመ ስቃይ እኮ የኤይድስ በሽታዬን ኣስረሳኝ Alemitu እህቴ በጣም ይሄውልሽ እኔም እንደዚሁ
Fyameta የኣጋመ ቁላ ናፈቐኝ Alemitu; እንዴ ምን ኣይነት በሽተኛ ነሽ

Eritrea,

Why are you falling for this amiche chick who has trouble speaking Tigrigna. I know Andeberhan is very principled. He has a lot of views as insider during the war. He knows weyanes and he knows Isayas. He is entitled to his own views. Why is the hate from some corner of the opposition toward him. The last thing he wants is to work for Isayas. BTW, I don't know what he is doing now, but he was one of the highest paid at the world bank a few years ago. Why did you post this on this thread anyway ?

Aurorae wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2020, 22:18

Eritrea,

Why are you falling for this amiche chick who has trouble speaking Tigrigna. I know Andeberhan is very principled. He has a lot of views as insider during the war. He knows weyanes and he knows Isayas. He is entitled to his own views. Why is the hate from some corner of the opposition toward him. The last thing he wants is to work for Isayas. BTW, I don't know what he is doing now, but he was one of the highest paid at the world bank a few years ago. Why did you post this on this thread anyway ?

The question was never about his credentials dear Aurorae (why do you have always to choose difficult nicknames?). But a question about his principles and integrity seems the beautiful lady more focused on in her argument. And I somehow seems to agree with her standpoint.

I will tell you why. In politics it is always about priorities that matter most and I totally agree with her on this. Because, putting focus on what is most essential for our existence is what can make us stronger and healthier as a nation.

The good ambassador despite his credentials to hear him talk about the G-15 the way he did. Makes you wonder what he really stands for.

The presumption of innocence doesn't seem to concern him at all. Innocent until proven guilty is as you know a legal right of the accused in a criminal trial in law abiding countries. Any country that don't respect such rights must be a hellish country that we all of us are very well accustomed with.

Eritrea,

G-15 are the ultimate victimss, and they are heroes in my book. Nothing will change that. What Andeberhan is saying is that they jammed the gun. He said that they put the country at far more risk by seeking the removal of Isayas at that dangerous time. They should have waited and sought a safer time and place. He is also saying, the Weyanes were dirty. They were too. Isayas's fault or not, he still was the leader. All of his weaknesses should have been corrected timely. That is his standing, I respect that and we need to move on. All views should be respeced for us to succeed. If Isayas and his followers respect all views, I would not have any problems with them . Freedom of speech and thought should be respected. American Nazi party had all the freedom in America during the second World war. In both wars, American Nazis prevented America's early entry to the war. Off course, they did it peacefully with their own arguments.

Aurorae wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2020, 19:28

Eritrea,

G-15 are the ultimate victimss, and they are heroes in my book. Nothing will change that. What Andeberhan is saying is that they jammed the gun. He said that they put the country at far more risk by seeking the removal of Isayas at that dangerous time. They should have waited and sought a safer time and place. He is also saying, the Weyanes were dirty. They were too. Isayas's fault or not, he still was the leader. All of his weaknesses should have been corrected timely. That is his standing, I respect that and we need to move on. All views should be respeced for us to succeed. If Isayas and his followers respect all views, I would not have any problems with them . Freedom of speech and thought should be respected. American Nazi party had all the freedom in America during the second World war. In both wars, American Nazis prevented America's early entry to the war. Off course, they did it peacefully with their own arguments.

Bro. You have to be consistent with your argument. What is at stake is his standpoints and his integrity not him as a person. And time is of the essence in this regard. Why do you think the government apologists want to preoccupy us with with the saga of Evil Woyane as if we don't know anything about them. Yeah...because they don't have any political solid ground to stand on, they choose to confuse us to forget about things that we keep close to our heart and is essential to our existence. And this is done by design I must add.

And if what is said about the G-15 is true, I repeat if that was really true, they were within their right to ask him to resign if they deemed that to be necessary. And it is not a crime by itself and there is no rule and order to begin with. We shouldn't forget as well, if it was not thanks to the generals rejection of the president decision to withdraw the Eritrean army all the way to Marsa Fatma port leaving Assab and surrounding areas to Woyane Army. We wouldn't have Assab under our control today.

So in other words, Andberhan is knowingly or unknowingly helping government apologists to preoccupy us with irrelevant discussion to present issues. Or he is sending subliminal message to get pardon from his boss to once again assume power of some sort from him.

Eritrea,

Democracy does not mean everyone will have the same view. You will have liberals, conservatives, etc.. Andeberhan is speaking for the people who think that coup d'état right after the war, was a blunder. Isayas would fight back, and he did. Do I blame them, no . But, you would be surprised how many people think like Andeberhan. Brother Deqi, for instance thinks democracy is not proper for third world countries. In a democratic country, brother Deqi would have a lot of followers. When the right time comes, off course, the G-15 perhaps would call him, opportunist or something like that. We have to agree to disagree. Andeberhan would be a fool to seek a position under Isayas after what he wrote about him. Isayas never forgives or forgets. I am sure Andeberhan knows that.

Aurorae wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2020, 01:34

Eritrea,

Democracy does not mean everyone will have the same view. You will have liberals, conservatives, etc.. Andeberhan is speaking for the people who think that coup d'état right after the war, was a blunder.

And now you changed it to be about democracy. What is wrong with you? Accusing someone for treason without having any thing to show for it is regarded as defamation in any country that is ruled by law and order and has nothing to do with democracy or freedom of expression. Actually lawsuit should be brought against him for defamation.

Despite that being the case the reason why he choose to be a spokesperson of a government that violate the right of its citizens at will should raise your eyebrows but for reasons only known for you, you are doing the same thing as the apologists often do. Whitewashing crime and deficiency by wishful formulated expression.

Eritrea,

Wa'cha talking about Willis !! Defamation ? He can easily accuse them of treason !! However, Eritrea does not have that in the books yet. They were to save the country. Andeberhan accused them of jamming the gun. It is a mere difference of opinions. Half of Eritrea may even agree with him. Everything said is bona fide on both sides. They are Eritrean heroes, and they will always be. But, Andeberhan's accusation should be weighed with every factor considered in the making. Crucifying him or crucifying the heroes in prison is not in the best interest of the country.
Eritrea, your opinion is one sided. He is not speaking for the government. Isayas could have accused them of treaon to an independent court with the constitution in place. But, he could have not been successful for he would have found facing accusations himself too. Andeberhan is Harvard educated man. Perhaps, he knows what he is talking about. Let us just move on, and look forward for G-15 to defend themselves.

Aurorae wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2020, 21:20

Eritrea,

Wa'cha talking about Willis !! Defamation ? He can easily accuse them of treason !! However, Eritrea does not have that in the books yet. They were to save the country. Andeberhan accused them of jamming the gun. It is a mere difference of opinions.

As they say, you can go round in circles resolving nothing, or you can step out of the circle and see things as they truly are. If you don't stand against defamation of any sort at any time and believe in the rule of law that no one is guilty until proven guilty by a court of law then I believe your talk about democracy is just a talk to use it to mess up society and is not worth its name. If you also really consider defamation as difference of opinion. It means you don't have your own solid ground to stand on and fight for.

"There is a difference between having an opinion and making a defamatory statement. In order to differentiate the two depends on the nature of the statement. If you make a statement in a magazine about an individual and it sounds like a fact, then it is a defamatory statement.“

Aurorae wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2020, 21:20

Eritrea, your opinion is one sided. ...........
Andeberhan is Harvard educated man. Perhaps, he knows what he is talking about.

You are not helping his case. You are just defending him as a person not his stand and that in itself is tragic as far as I am concerned hence I drop my case.

Eritrea, you wrote,

If you make a statement in a magazine about an individual and it sounds like a fact, then it is a defamatory statement

You must be kidding. Have you ever heard of an intent that leads to an injury or death with false information, that could be persecuted. Even then, the intent has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. He has not done anything of that nature but his statement. All you have to do is, prove him false , and that is not enough to persecute him. You have to prove his intent. I think your problem is, for some reason or another, you hate the person in question. He did not arrest them. Isayas did. The fact is, he may be right. Look what happened to them and the greater Eritrea itself. Like I said, they are heroes, and they were trying to salvage Eritrea. But, they may have drawn the gun prematurely. You don't believe that, let us agree to disagree. That is what is democracy all about.

Aurorae wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2020, 21:18

Have you ever heard of an intent that leads to an injury or death with false information, that could be persecuted. Even then, the intent has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. He has not done anything of that nature but his statement. All you have to do is, prove him false , and that is not enough to persecute him. You have to prove his intent.

Dear bro. You just seem to discuss for the sake of discussion. You could have been able to read in previous responses the answer to your question but you failed to do so miserably. And the reason for that is because, you support this dude not because of principles and moral values but you do so for reasons only known for you.

There are different legal codes for different crimes and defamation is one of them, violence and murder would be other legal codes. All what is needed to sue him is, out there in the open for anyone to see. And I must tell you, I am surprised that legal action is still not taken against him all this time.

Aurorae wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2020, 21:18

I think your problem is, for some reason or another, you hate the person in question. He did not arrest them. Isayas did. The fact is, he may be right. Look what happened to them and the greater Eritrea itself.

For your information I don't know him and I don't hate him as a person but I don't support his actions he took against those who sacrificed so much for their people and country and paid the ultimate price for the love of their people and country. The least we could do is to respect their contribution and demand justice and truth prevail against lies and defamations. To try to score political points by vilification against those who can't defend themselves is regarded in any society with high moral values and high integrity as political prostitution and that is what it is.