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The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 01 Sep 2020, 11:41

When i see how the Rwandans co-exist and live in harmony, you can not tell this people are the same people who went through the ugliest genocide ever in Africa. As sad as that history was, it brought them peace and unforgettable lesson. I am afraid Ethiopian needs the same. I mean look what is going on? The Oromo needs to be thought a lesson. They are out of control. The Agame are always chigram agame, so nothing new. Ethiopians need a tragedy that brings them together, case in point; Rwanda.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by Fiyameta » 01 Sep 2020, 12:12

During the 1993 Rwandan genocide over one million people were slaughtered with machetes in less than 100 days. To say the Rwandan people needed a tragedy of such magnitude to cement national unity is a callous attitude toward the sufferings of the genocide victims and survivors. Shouldn't there be another way of creating national unity other than slaughtering each other until your hands get too tired wielding the machete, prompting you to reach out and shake the tired hands of your opponent?

Violence begets violence.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 01 Sep 2020, 12:27

Fiyameta wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:12
During the 1993 Rwandan genocide over one million people were slaughtered with machetes in less than 100 days. To say the Rwandan people needed a tragedy of such magnitude to cement national unity is a callous attitude toward the sufferings of the genocide victims and survivors. Shouldn't there be another way of creating national unity other than slaughtering each other until your hands get too tired wielding the machete, prompting you to reach out and shake the tired hands of your opponent?

Violence begets violence.
Suggest one? I said this because i see no hope. How you deal or make a peace with oromo? They will never be satisfied and then they will kill you. what other way are you suggesting? I am all ears.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by Aurorae » 01 Sep 2020, 12:28

Zemen,

You say the Oromos need a lesson ??? All of a sudden you are in love with Amharas :twisted: Maybe Eritrea is being set up to join her mother country Ethiopia eh... Shyyt head. Trust me, the Oromos will give the lesson not the other way if it becomes that ugly. :evil: Off course, the agames are armed to the teeth. Hopefully, it won't go that far, and the wannabe little dictator comes to his senses, If not, welcome the most populous East African country called Oromiya. :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, with the people chosen government, Eritrea will be its closest ally.
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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by TesfaNews » 01 Sep 2020, 12:33

Why not have. More autonomy each region ethnic govern themselves and are not intervened with in order to stabilize the Chaotic empire from collapsing

1 out of 7 Ethiopians must be slayed and Slaughtered in order for Insane Zemen dream to work which is 16,428,000 slaughtered and killed Ethiopians. In order to achieve Peace Rwanda Style!
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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 01 Sep 2020, 12:37

Aurorae wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:28
Zemen,

You say the Oromos need a lesson ??? All of a sudden you are in love with Amharas :twisted: Maybe Eritrea is being set up to join her mother country Ethiopia eh... Shyyt head. Trust me, the Oromos will give the lesson not the other way if it becomes that ugly. :evil: Off course, the agames are armed to the teeth. Hopefully, it won't go that far, and the wannabe dictator come to his senses, If not, welcome the most populous East African country called Oromiya. :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, with the people chosen government, Eritrea will be its closest ally.
That is not the case. It is about population but civilization. If there was to be war between Amara and oromo, trust me, hands down. it is about the heart. Eritreans beat Ethiopia, what do you think the difference in population number? i rest my case.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by TesfaNews » 01 Sep 2020, 12:45

Zemen get to work 16 Million Ethiopians need to be slaughtered with machetes in order to bring peace

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by Aurorae » 01 Sep 2020, 12:46

Zemen,

The Oromos have the heart and the will. They are born killers. The great amharas are not the problem. They are farmers who can live peacefully with the Oromos. The problem children are the has been idiots mostly in the diaspora who are creating the problems. They are the minority amharas, who were defeated by brave Eritreans despite less than perfect leadership that hijacked the euphoria to this day. :evil:
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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 01 Sep 2020, 12:48

TesfaNews wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:45
Zemen get to work 16 Million Ethiopians need to be slaughtered with machetes in order to bring peace
You got a better idea? I am telling you Oromo will never stop till kills you and the don't learn. the only lessen they seem to get is force. Some body tell me what the solution is?

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by TesfaNews » 01 Sep 2020, 12:59

What type of oromo are you talking about Jawarist Oromos in his province of Arsi Bale & Hararghe well the solution for that is to relocate Christian minorities into Shewa And the problem will be solved Harar and Dire Dawa will also be Christian free soon the more seperation the less you would have to worry about some church in west Arsi being set on fire

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 01 Sep 2020, 13:05

TesfaNews wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:59
What type of oromo are you talking about Jawarist Oromos in his province of Arsi Bale & Hararghe well the solution for that is to relocate Christian minorities into Shewa And the problem will be solved Harar and Dire Dawa will also be Christian free soon the more seperation the less you would have to worry about some church in west Arsi being set on fire
So you wanted to solve ethnic problem with the religious one? huh even worst.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by Fiyameta » 01 Sep 2020, 15:33

ZEMEN wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:27
Fiyameta wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:12
During the 1993 Rwandan genocide over one million people were slaughtered with machetes in less than 100 days. To say the Rwandan people needed a tragedy of such magnitude to cement national unity is a callous attitude toward the sufferings of the genocide victims and survivors. Shouldn't there be another way of creating national unity other than slaughtering each other until your hands get too tired wielding the machete, prompting you to reach out and shake the tired hands of your opponent?

Violence begets violence.
Suggest one? I said this because i see no hope. How you deal or make a peace with oromo? They will never be satisfied and then they will kill you. what other way are you suggesting? I am all ears.
The country is in transition from centuries-long minority rule to a majority rule of modern democracy, which requires time and patience to smooth out the rough edges, not to mention tackling the spill over effects of the feudal mindset that attempts to solve every problem in the country by the same consciousness that created it.

National unity and social cohesion come when you put yourself in other ethnic groups' shoes and walk a mile that you begin to see their point of view and respect their opinions that may differ from yours. You cannot have national unity by rejecting the reality of others and substituting your own version of reality. It doesn't work that way.

If you were brought up in a very toxic environment where people from certain ethnic groups were presented on films as house maids, guards and gardeners to enforce the negative stereotypes held by many viewers, though through no fault of your own, you're most likely to quickly reject the new reality that presents such people in a positive way, such as assuming the highest office in the country.

Change yourself to change your environment. Change your mindset to change the country.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by EthioRedSea » 02 Sep 2020, 05:17

There is no hatred against any ethnic group. It is power politics, where ethnic groups are used to maintain the political power. Ethiopia is an ancient country and it will be impossible to kill any ethnic group as all are in the same boat.

Foreign powers, specially Egypt are trying to foment Rwanda like civil wars. But this will fail as the Ethiopians do not hate each other. Oromo protests are for democracy, not for genocide of Amhara people. Ethiopia should dismantle Menelik's statue and meet the Oromo demands for equality. The same for Somali, Wolaita, Tigray, afar etc. Ethiopia should multilingual. There should more languages as working languages, specially Tigrigna and Geez should be added. Oromo language should also be one of the working languages of modern Ethiopia.

Menelik was a traitor king or tribal chief. The Wuchali treaty was a dishonour to Africa. Further on Menelik collaborated with Mahdists and supported the mass killings and destruction of Gonder in Amhara region. Menelik can be remembered for his role in adwa in history books.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 02 Sep 2020, 08:25

Fiyameta wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 15:33
ZEMEN wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:27
Fiyameta wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:12
During the 1993 Rwandan genocide over one million people were slaughtered with machetes in less than 100 days. To say the Rwandan people needed a tragedy of such magnitude to cement national unity is a callous attitude toward the sufferings of the genocide victims and survivors. Shouldn't there be another way of creating national unity other than slaughtering each other until your hands get too tired wielding the machete, prompting you to reach out and shake the tired hands of your opponent?

Violence begets violence.
Suggest one? I said this because i see no hope. How you deal or make a peace with oromo? They will never be satisfied and then they will kill you. what other way are you suggesting? I am all ears.
The country is in transition from centuries-long minority rule to a majority rule of modern democracy, which requires time and patience to smooth out the rough edges, not to mention tackling the spill over effects of the feudal mindset that attempts to solve every problem in the country by the same consciousness that created it.

National unity and social cohesion come when you put yourself in other ethnic groups' shoes and walk a mile that you begin to see their point of view and respect their opinions that may differ from yours. You cannot have national unity by rejecting the reality of others and substituting your own version of reality. It doesn't work that way.

If you were brought up in a very toxic environment where people from certain ethnic groups were presented on films as house maids, guards and gardeners to enforce the negative stereotypes held by many viewers, though through no fault of your own, you're most likely to quickly reject the new reality that presents such people in a positive way, such as assuming the highest office in the country.

Change yourself to change your environment. Change your mindset to change the country.

You are facing two major problems. One your majority in the country don't know what they want. What do Oromo want? I have no idea. They are in power and still they are killing people and destroying properties. Who burns schools? the second is Abiy is to weak to handle the situation. He is trying to appease every one; big trouble and greater problem to follow. Kaldeferese Ayteram.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by Degnet » 02 Sep 2020, 10:32

ZEMEN wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:37
Aurorae wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:28
Zemen,

You say the Oromos need a lesson ??? All of a sudden you are in love with Amharas :twisted: Maybe Eritrea is being set up to join her mother country Ethiopia eh... Shyyt head. Trust me, the Oromos will give the lesson not the other way if it becomes that ugly. :evil: Off course, the agames are armed to the teeth. Hopefully, it won't go that far, and the wannabe dictator come to his senses, If not, welcome the most populous East African country called Oromiya. :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, with the people chosen government, Eritrea will be its closest ally.
That is not the case. It is about population but civilization. If there was to be war between Amara and oromo, trust me, hands down. it is about the heart. Eritreans beat Ethiopia, what do you think the difference in population number? i rest my case.
You are funny,Derg was not Ethiopian army,remember the Red Terror.Kulukum kushasha ikum.Never read you resahat again.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 02 Sep 2020, 10:36

EthioRedSea wrote:
02 Sep 2020, 05:17
There is no hatred against any ethnic group. It is power politics, where ethnic groups are used to maintain the political power. Ethiopia is an ancient country and it will be impossible to kill any ethnic group as all are in the same boat.

Foreign powers, specially Egypt are trying to foment Rwanda like civil wars. But this will fail as the Ethiopians do not hate each other. Oromo protests are for democracy, not for genocide of Amhara people. Ethiopia should dismantle Menelik's statue and meet the Oromo demands for equality. The same for Somali, Wolaita, Tigray, afar etc. Ethiopia should multilingual. There should more languages as working languages, specially Tigrigna and Geez should be added. Oromo language should also be one of the working languages of modern Ethiopia.

Menelik was a traitor king or tribal chief. The Wuchali treaty was a dishonour to Africa. Further on Menelik collaborated with Mahdists and supported the mass killings and destruction of Gonder in Amhara region. Menelik can be remembered for his role in adwa in history books.
There is nothing the foreign powers could do if the Ethiopians united. The problem is we don't respect each others and there is deep resentment between ethnics and killils. the greatest danger for civil war is the Killil special forces are stronger than the federal one. Big trouble!!!

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by Degnet » 02 Sep 2020, 12:29

Degnet wrote:
02 Sep 2020, 10:32
ZEMEN wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:37
Aurorae wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:28
Zemen,

You say the Oromos need a lesson ??? All of a sudden you are in love with Amharas :twisted: Maybe Eritrea is being set up to join her mother country Ethiopia eh... Shyyt head. Trust me, the Oromos will give the lesson not the other way if it becomes that ugly. :evil: Off course, the agames are armed to the teeth. Hopefully, it won't go that far, and the wannabe dictator come to his senses, If not, welcome the most populous East African country called Oromiya. :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, with the people chosen government, Eritrea will be its closest ally.
That is not the case. It is about population but civilization. If there was to be war between Amara and oromo, trust me, hands down. it is about the heart. Eritreans beat Ethiopia, what do you think the difference in population number? i rest my case.

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Re: The only way out for Ethiopia is Rwanda.

Post by ZEMEN » 02 Sep 2020, 14:18

Degnet wrote:
02 Sep 2020, 12:29
Degnet wrote:
02 Sep 2020, 10:32
ZEMEN wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:37
Aurorae wrote:
01 Sep 2020, 12:28
Zemen,

You say the Oromos need a lesson ??? All of a sudden you are in love with Amharas :twisted: Maybe Eritrea is being set up to join her mother country Ethiopia eh... Shyyt head. Trust me, the Oromos will give the lesson not the other way if it becomes that ugly. :evil: Off course, the agames are armed to the teeth. Hopefully, it won't go that far, and the wannabe dictator come to his senses, If not, welcome the most populous East African country called Oromiya. :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, with the people chosen government, Eritrea will be its closest ally.
That is not the case. It is about population but civilization. If there was to be war between Amara and oromo, trust me, hands down. it is about the heart. Eritreans beat Ethiopia, what do you think the difference in population number? i rest my case.
What is your take? i don't see your comment. i need to hear your say.

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