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Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Zmeselo » 23 Aug 2020, 11:54

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August 20, 2020

Susan Rice says she is '100 percent' sure Russia will interfere in elections


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Former national security adviser Susan Rice said Thursday that she is "100 percent convinced" that Russian adversaries will seek to interfere in U.S. elections this year.
I almost never say this, but I am 100 percent convinced that Russia is doing much of what it did in 2016 and certainly more,
Rice, who also previously served as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said during a virtual event hosted by The Washington Post.

Rice pointed to recent statements by a top official at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that acknowledged efforts by Russia, China and Iran to interfere in U.S. elections this year, with Russia's efforts meant to promote President Trump, and China's and Iran's efforts aimed at defeating Trump.

Rice emphasized that Russia's election interference activities were at "a completely different scale" than China's or Iran's efforts, and described a previous national intelligence statement on election security concerns as being "muddled" and trying to "conflate what China and Iran might be doing" with Russian interference efforts.
We need to be worried not only about Russian disinformation - its activity on social media which is constant, aimed at misleading and dividing and instilling fear and hatred between and among Americans - but we need to be concerned also about what efforts it might make again to infiltrate our voting systems, and corrupt either our voting rolls or even potentially the voting count itself,
Rice said.
That's very hard to do, and hopefully in the intervening years, even more steps have been taken to harden our system, I believe in many cases that's the case, but I also think the Russians aren't going to stop trying,
Rice added.

According to the U.S. intelligence community, the report compiled by former special counsel Robert Mueller and the Senate Intelligence Committee, Russian agents engaged in a sweeping and sophisticated effort to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

These efforts included a disinformation campaign across social media platforms, targeting voting infrastructure in all 50 states, and hacking into the systems of the Democratic National Committee.

The Senate Intelligence Committee released a declassified version of its fifth and final report on Russian interference efforts earlier this week, which detailed significant ties between Russian intelligence officers and top 2016 Trump presidential campaign officials.

Rice described the report as "remarkable" and praised the bipartisan report for being more detailed around contacts between Russia and the 2016 Trump campaign than the Mueller report was.

Rice on Thursday also pointed to new concerns around election integrity beyond Russian interference, pointing to concerns around an ongoing investigation by Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) into the Obama administration and the Bidens as part of a effort to spread disinformation.
It's not just the Russians, it's not just the Trump campaign and those involved with it, it's also at least a handful of Republicans in the Senate who seem to be willing to sully themselves with Russian propaganda in order to advantage Donald Trump again in this election,
Rice said.

Sen. Chris Coons (Del.), the lead Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee panel with jurisdiction over federal election funds, said during a separate virtual interview hosted by The Washington Post that he also was concerned about foreign interference in elections this year, noting that
there are plenty of warnings that Russia intends to and is trying to interfere with our elections this fall.
I am concerned about the security and sanctity of our elections this fall, one that we should be able to conduct safely in the middle of a pandemic," Coons said.
Other top officials have also raised concerns about foreign interference in elections over the past months. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in July that he is
confident that many countries will do their level best to have an impact on our election.

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 23 Aug 2020, 13:32

Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?


Notwithstanding such excuses, Biden has indicated today that he would run for second term!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by sesame » 23 Aug 2020, 13:52

Somaliman wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 13:32
Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?


Notwithstanding such excuses, Biden has indicated today that he would run for second term!
That is very very funny. A man who doesn't know where he is, who doesn't know what office he is running for (he said he was running for the US senate), who doesn't know who he is running against (he said he will beat Joe Biden), points to his sister and says she is his wife, is too far gone on the memory loss lane to run for a second term. Most Americans know that he will not be able to serve the first term if he is elected. It is for that reason that the race is between Trump and Kamala Harris. And if any one thinks Americans are ready for a black woman president, then the don't know their America. Trump will win hands down and you can take that to your favourite bank.




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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 23 Aug 2020, 15:07

People voted for Trump in 2016 mainly due to the following:
1. Generalized dislike for Clinton legacy being carried on.
2. American Dream revival rhetoric.
3. People willing to have conservative laws, as these ensure the right to bear arms, or ban abortion.
4. Anti—Muslim, immigrant, foreigner rhetoric.

Replace Clinton with Biden and you’ll find out that Americans are still attracted to these, and Trump will exploit them once more. Americans dislike Biden equally, but to a lesser degree compared to Clinton, but Trump knows how to play dirty politics, consisting purely of character assassination focusing on Biden in person.

Miracles need to be worked for Biden to win!


Just a thought!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by sesame » 23 Aug 2020, 16:01


His major platform in 2016 included;

1) Ending the useless wars which devastated America for the benefit of the military industrial complex and the corporations;

2) End of trade deals like NAFTA and TPP which devastated the manufacturing sector of the US economy for the benefit of the corporations;

3) Clamp down on immigration and closure of the Mexico-US border to stop the entry of millions of illegal immigrants;

4) Drainage of what he called the swamp and the uncontrolled corruption in Washington.

These policies resonated with many Americans irrespective of partisan allegiances. His anti Muslim rhetoric was just rhetoric. People don't vote for rhetoric, they vote for game-changing policies.

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Aurorae » 23 Aug 2020, 16:50

Guys,

Americans love Biden's favorite American Irish country boy stature. Biden is straight forward. Sometimes, his crazy joke's get him in trouble. :lol: He is the malarkey man. :lol: He has been an influential politician for the last forty years. :lol: A lot of experience under his belt, he has more audience. Tramp is overbearing. Tramp is about himself. He belittles others. He is very bossy. I think, finally, Biden has come home to roost. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 23 Aug 2020, 16:51

sesame wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 16:01

His major platform in 2016 included;

1) Ending the useless wars which devastated America for the benefit of the military industrial complex and the corporations;

2) End of trade deals like NAFTA and TPP which devastated the manufacturing sector of the US economy for the benefit of the corporations;

3) Clamp down on immigration and closure of the Mexico-US border to stop the entry of millions of illegal immigrants;

4) Drainage of what he called the swamp and the uncontrolled corruption in Washington.

These policies resonated with many Americans irrespective of partisan allegiances. His anti Muslim rhetoric was just rhetoric. People don't vote for rhetoric, they vote for game-changing policies.




Sure, all of these also included, but don't forget the ordinary Trump voter doesn't differentiate rhetoric from what you call "game-changing policies", leave alone about breaking deals, such as NAFTA, TPP, Paris Agreement, Iran Deal, UNESCO, etc.

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Aurorae » 23 Aug 2020, 17:00

If Biden wins the election and fails to finish the presidency, expect a black Margaret Thatcher. Harris is conservative and very eloquent speaker. She is type A personality. :lol:

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 23 Aug 2020, 17:09

Aurorae wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 16:50
Guys,

Americans love Biden's favorite American Irish country boy stature. Biden is straight forward. Sometimes, his crazy joke's get him in trouble. :lol: He is the malarkey man. :lol: He has been an influential politician for the last forty years. :lol: A lot of experience under his belt, he has more audience. Tramp is overbearing. Tramp is about himself. He belittles others. He is very bossy. I think, finally, Biden has come home to roost. :lol: :lol: :lol:
The only reason why Biden is the candidate to the presidency is as Trump has said, because he knew how to kiss the [deleted] of Obama. God knows how many times he tried but he failed miserably to garner the support of the more than 8 percent of the voters. The Democratic Party is a rotten party which is going to drive America to a failed state. I say Trump 2020

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by sesame » 23 Aug 2020, 17:14

Somaliman wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 16:51

Sure, all of these also included, but don't forget the ordinary Trump voter doesn't differentiate rhetoric from what you call "game-changing policies", leave alone about breaking deals, such as NAFTA, TPP, Paris Agreement, Iran Deal, UNESCO, etc.
I beg to differ. People know very well when their lives are destroyed because of government policies such as wars and outsourcing jobs to China. The real reason he won was because he carried the states that used to be the industrial belt but which had become the rust belt states, like Michigan. Here is an analysis by the Washington Post, no friend of Trump, that might interest you: Here’s the real reason Rust Belt cities and towns voted for Trump

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 23 Aug 2020, 17:43

sesame wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 17:14
Somaliman wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 16:51

Sure, all of these also included, but don't forget the ordinary Trump voter doesn't differentiate rhetoric from what you call "game-changing policies", leave alone about breaking deals, such as NAFTA, TPP, Paris Agreement, Iran Deal, UNESCO, etc.
I beg to differ. People know very well when their lives are destroyed because of government policies such as wars and outsourcing jobs to China. The real reason he won was because he carried the states that used to be the industrial belt but which had become the rust belt states, like Michigan. Here is an analysis by the Washington Post, no friend of Trump, that might interest you: Here’s the real reason Rust Belt cities and towns voted for Trump




As far as Michigan is concerned, regardless of what made people over there vote for him, every current public poll in Michigan is indicating that Trump is trailing in the state due to his own conduct. Even before the coronavirus Michigan was shaping up to be the most difficult state for Trump to win a second time. Now his prospects there appear even dimmer - and good for him!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 23 Aug 2020, 20:13

In reality, neither Trump nor Biden cares about American people, or may I say, the poor and not-so-poor people. Like most people in extreme power in this world, they're bought and paid for by the real movers and shakers!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Aurorae » 23 Aug 2020, 21:44

Deqi,

I am independent. I like the democratic party for its fairness. I like the business oriented platform of the Republican party. My problem with the republican party is that all it has failed to clean the house of the racist club within its rank.

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by experts » 24 Aug 2020, 12:33

Can't wait to see Trump trash Biden in the debates. Already have my beer and popcorn ready. Go Trump.

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 24 Aug 2020, 14:18

experts wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 12:33
Can't wait to see Trump trash Biden in the debates. Already have my beer and popcorn ready. Go Trump.





Remember, when Trump was running against Hillary Clinton and he seized on her email servers and past scandals, hammering her on the issue and using it to define her with many voters - and Hillary Clinton couldn't put it to rest early and it dragged her down through the end!

Trump is going to make use of his 2016 playbook once more, using questions about Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine, and any alleged involvement by his father, twisting reality, as usual, to paint Biden shady and make him seem guilty and dirty! But I doubt whether this time Fox News would fall instantly in line to only focus on Trump's opponent, as it did in 2016!

Stop jumping up and down with joy, boy! Biden's team already decided it was important to respond aggressively to avoid Trump traps, including the infamous one that I've briefly depicted above! Therefore, I advise you to enjoy your beer and popcorn now, as the fiesta you're waiting for would not take place! Just a thought!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by experts » 24 Aug 2020, 14:25

Somaliman: can't wait to read your dream analysis which you are entitled too. "Biden team is ready?" you must be joking or hallucinating. I warn you keep believing the fake news and the haters and you will cry like all the Clinton/liberal and one world people cried on election night in 2016. I agree with that, I should start drinking and celebrating. Looking at Biden, I am already celebrating Cheeeeeeeeeeeeers Trump. More cases of Heniken

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 24 Aug 2020, 14:49

experts wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 14:25
Somaliman: can't wait to read your dream analysis which you are entitled too. "Biden team is ready?" you must be joking or hallucinating. I warn you keep believing the fake news and the haters and you will cry like all the Clinton/liberal and one world people cried on election night in 2016. I agree with that, I should start drinking and celebrating. Looking at Biden, I am already celebrating Cheeeeeeeeeeeeers Trump. More cases of Heniken





No need for analysis, as reality on the ground is speaking for itself and no further explanation is required!

By reading this link, below, I believe you would finish off all the damned Heineken you've been stocking, to help you sleep tonight!

And don't forget, this was updated 3 hours ago!

https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Zmeselo » 24 Aug 2020, 15:03

Make him "seem" guilty? I respect you as a man, somaliman but this time you're wrong. Here's, his own admission:



"Blafrican American": Joe Biden. :lol:



Somaliman wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 14:18
experts wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 12:33
Can't wait to see Trump trash Biden in the debates. Already have my beer and popcorn ready. Go Trump.





Remember, when Trump was running against Hillary Clinton and he seized on her email servers and past scandals, hammering her on the issue and using it to define her with many voters - and Hillary Clinton couldn't put it to rest early and it dragged her down through the end!

Trump is going to make use of his 2016 playbook once more, using questions about Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine, and any alleged involvement by his father, twisting reality, as usual, to paint Biden shady and make him seem guilty and dirty! But I doubt whether this time Fox News would fall instantly in line to only focus on Trump's opponent, as it did in 2016!

Stop jumping up and down with joy, boy! Biden's team already decided it was important to respond aggressively to avoid Trump traps, including the infamous one that I've briefly depicted above! Therefore, I advise you to enjoy your beer and popcorn now, as the fiesta you're waiting for would not take place! Just a thought!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Somaliman » 24 Aug 2020, 15:20

Zmeselo wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 15:03
Make him "seem" guilty? I respect you as a man, somaliman but this time you're wrong. Here's, his own admission:



Somaliman wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 14:18
experts wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 12:33
Can't wait to see Trump trash Biden in the debates. Already have my beer and popcorn ready. Go Trump.





Remember, when Trump was running against Hillary Clinton and he seized on her email servers and past scandals, hammering her on the issue and using it to define her with many voters - and Hillary Clinton couldn't put it to rest early and it dragged her down through the end!

Trump is going to make use of his 2016 playbook once more, using questions about Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine, and any alleged involvement by his father, twisting reality, as usual, to paint Biden shady and make him seem guilty and dirty! But I doubt whether this time Fox News would fall instantly in line to only focus on Trump's opponent, as it did in 2016!

Stop jumping up and down with joy, boy! Biden's team already decided it was important to respond aggressively to avoid Trump traps, including the infamous one that I've briefly depicted above! Therefore, I advise you to enjoy your beer and popcorn now, as the fiesta you're waiting for would not take place! Just a thought!




Of course, I'm not going to disagree with you on this, as we all know damned politicians are guilty in one thing or another. But Trump wants to use this to define Biden. Trump is not an altar boy, either!

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Re: Already pushing excuses for a Biden loss?

Post by Zmeselo » 24 Aug 2020, 16:05

Somaliman wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 15:20
Zmeselo wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 15:03
Make him "seem" guilty? I respect you as a man, somaliman but this time you're wrong. Here's, his own admission:



Somaliman wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 14:18
experts wrote:
24 Aug 2020, 12:33
Can't wait to see Trump trash Biden in the debates. Already have my beer and popcorn ready. Go Trump.





Remember, when Trump was running against Hillary Clinton and he seized on her email servers and past scandals, hammering her on the issue and using it to define her with many voters - and Hillary Clinton couldn't put it to rest early and it dragged her down through the end!

Trump is going to make use of his 2016 playbook once more, using questions about Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine, and any alleged involvement by his father, twisting reality, as usual, to paint Biden shady and make him seem guilty and dirty! But I doubt whether this time Fox News would fall instantly in line to only focus on Trump's opponent, as it did in 2016!

Stop jumping up and down with joy, boy! Biden's team already decided it was important to respond aggressively to avoid Trump traps, including the infamous one that I've briefly depicted above! Therefore, I advise you to enjoy your beer and popcorn now, as the fiesta you're waiting for would not take place! Just a thought!




Of course, I'm not going to disagree with you on this, as we all know damned politicians are guilty in one thing or another. But Trump wants to use this to define Biden. Trump is not an altar boy, either!
True! He's just the lesser of 2 evils. I, personally, want Obummer & his legacy to disappear forever. It might matter little to you, but the hate I have for that baztard (literally) & his baztard (literally) little hoe (Susan Rice), is beyond description. I want to punch myself, for supporting him when he was elected. I didn't vote for him cos I don't vote at all, but I really wanted him to win cos he's kinda black.

He taught me a lesson, the hard way.

Trump, at least, removed the debilitating & unfair sanctions placed on my country by obummer.

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